YouTube Wars: The White House Vs. DrudgeReport

“Rattled” huh Michael. Really? Sweaty, fidgety, pacing back and forth, reaching for a forbidden cigarette, mopping the brow with shaky hands, shirt drenched, unshaven? Kind of like Nixon plotting with Haldeman and Erlichman? Uh-huh.

I’m glad they have a professional ex-anchor doing this. Douglas is pretty good.

Is this the gentleman who rattled the President of the United States with editing software and a laptop? Who wrecked the buffet at the Harrow Club this morning? Who crashed through Victor Maitland’s window and disabled an unmarked unit with a banana?

You might recall that Obama both needed and created a site specifically designed to push back against internet rumor-mongering and e-mail campaigns. I don’t think ‘rattled’ is an approriate adjective either. He has rather extensive experience in the beating-back-lies business. This is just another example of SOP.

Really. When Obama gets caught on YouTube making midnight visits to the Lincoln Memorial then the word “rattled” may be in order.

Having said that, I can’t believe how WEAK this response is. Can someone tell me how it ends? I fell asleep halfway through.

It’s very unfortunate but the MSM takes Drudge seriously and is all too happy to pick up his nastiness and make it more “legitmiate”.

Obama is very aware of the sorry state of reporting in this country and is wise to hit back hard at someone who is held with respect by the MSM.

You might notice they’re giving the Birthers a wide birth because even the MSM knows they’re crazy.

Whaddya mean “WEAK.” What do you want them to do? There’s no blood and guts in health care policy.

“On Tuesday, the White House hit back hard, with its own YouTube video ….”

ROTFLMAO!

The execrable, militant feminist Linda Douglas (one of the 17 very stupid political operatives from the Washington press corps now being paid by American taxpayers to work in the adminstration of the clueless community organizer) bloviating on youtube is evidence of “hit[ting] back hard”? Let’s disband the United States military and just have Douglas make youtube videos ….

Anyone with an ounce of brains knows that if Obama gets his way, ALL Americans will be using a single-payer, “public option” for their healthcare insurance.
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Drudge is one of the few reporting on this fact. The MSM is fully in line with Obama’s agenda, especially Healthcare Insurance. The only way a public option will work is if the 80% who have healthcare insurance coverage are made to take the public Government Social Welfare insurance that he will eventually make us all have.
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First you pass legislation to make everyone obtain coverage. Then you create another huge government insurance program (similar to Medicare), costing the tax-payers of the middle class more than a Trillion dollars. This tax-payer subsidized insurance program will eventually kill off all the private insurance companies.
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There will be no choice in healthcare as we have now. There will only be one insurance. One big, rationing healthcare plan that Obama creates. Instead of only 20% of the population mired in deep crap, we will ALL be in deep crap.

All that, AND we are going to euthanize your granny, too.

The WH had to respond…

…cause the heat is on. It’s on the street. Oh-wo-ho, oh-wo-ho. Tell me can you feel it. Tell me can you feel it.

The heat is – on!

I find it fascinating how reform opponents have to rely on ‘hidden agenda’ and conspiracy theorizing in order to bolster their positions. It’s so much easier to make something up about what Obama would do if he could than to actually read legislation being proposed.

The fact that Obama repeatedly points out that any bill will have to conform to PayGo and any public plan will have to be self-sustaining of course proves that rusty’s post above is a flat-out lie.

Guys, I fail to see how a video clip of Obama saying what he said is not legitimate news. Has his view changed, or is he pursuing a Trojan Horse strategy? These are legitimate questions, your sycophancy notwithstanding.

Funny, what has been shown to be the world’s most effective healthcare system is the “third rail” in this country. Not even our “liberal” president will touch it. No one can mention single-payer without being labeled “radical”, “socialist”, “unpatriotic”…

The more I think about the Congressional healthcare “debate”, the more I come back to one thought:
Campaign Finance Reform.

Will lonelygirl15 be posting HC discussions on youtube?
Obama knows that youtube is part of the new media, bye bye Katie. Iran events added twitter to media too. Fans of old shows and Cronkite / other real news giants post great clips too.

‘Guys, I fail to see…’
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Since you are having difficulty understanding the problem here, maybe this will help:

Fallacy of quoting out of context
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The practice of quoting out of context, sometimes referred to as “contextomy” or “quote mining”, is a logical fallacy and type of false attribution in which a passage is removed from its surrounding matter in such a way as to distort its intended meaning.

Arguments based on this fallacy typically take two forms. As a straw man argument, which is frequently found in politics, it involves quoting an opponent out of context in order to misrepresent their position (typically to make it seem more simplistic or extreme) in order to make it easier to refute. As an appeal to authority, it involves quoting an authority on the subject out of context, in order to misrepresent that authority as supporting some position

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rusty, almost everything you said sounds great to me, especially killing off the insurance companies. So what’s the problem?
…except for the MSM being in line with Obama’s agenda. I sense thru KT’s frustrated posts – and reader responses – that the Corporate Media[tm] is NOT in line.

” ..Having said that, I can’t believe how WEAK this response is. “
How would you know?

” .. Can someone tell me how it ends? I fell asleep halfway through. ..”
Care for those with Attention Deficit Disorder (ADD) was not specifically mentioned.

Rusty, I agree with you wholeheartedly, individuals with only an ounce of brains is exactly who we need to be worried about. Perhaps there is some sort of test we can implement that can detect and ultimately identify these individuals, so their words can be discounted by the public at large. You know, just in case the public can’t pick up on the micro expressions, or in poker terms the “tells,” that brand them as liars, thieves and malcontents. Perhaps you can shed some light on just how we can overcome the shortcomings of an one size fits all approach since “one ouncers” come in all shapes and sizes and hail from all regions of the country.

” .. this video on his website, a scattershot work of highly edited oppo. …”
So, why do you bother and why do you want us to take notice, Mr Michael Scherer?

We don’t know about your other life, MS, but why should TIME and the MSM be into this or any “scattershot work of highly edited oppo” ?

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@MS: …a person…with editing software and a laptop can rattle the President of the United States.
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‘Rattle’ is a bit strong, Michael. ‘Push back’ would be more accurate.
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So, other than ‘reporting the controversy’, can you tell us who or what is right and your reasoning why? I’m seeing an awful lot of ink and electrons wasted on this topic, but not much clarity…Just opinion from the talking heads and he said/she said from the straight press.

We live in a world where a$$hats like Drudge are worshipped and mimicked by such “journalists” as Mark (Drudge Jr.) Halperin and the Politico crew, and an entire “news” network dedicated to the cause of misinformation. The fact that these idiots are guilty of using a video created by some other a$$hat does not inbue said a$$hat with some sort of power over the president. Instead, he pulls the strings of the other a$$hat puppets.

@ rustyreturns: “Anyone with an ounce of brains…”

Which, of course, leaves you out, right?

Hey all,

Take a look at Karen’s post above for the full context of the most jarring quote in the NakedEmporer mashup.

http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/08/04/re-youtube-wars/

Read it, good stuff, done….but you’re not going to hawk more dead tree subscriptions again, are you?

Of course the ‘trojan horse’ strategy can only work if the lure that gets through the door actually is better than the status quo.

Why are people so afraid of people actually choosing what they want to have happen?

Paul –

Say what you will about Sarah Palin, but she did get one thing right, “the media does make stuff up.” I watched Jessica Yellin use our own KT, as a political foil to push this meme about Obama raising taxes. It went from early Sunday morning with the administration’s representatives responding to questions like “in the light of the growing deficits don’t you really have to raise taxes on everybody to raise enough revenues to pay for universal health care, or if you are trying to bend the cost curve down don’t you need for everyone to have some skin in the game, how can you do that without increasing taxes for everyone? And of course the administration repeated what they have been saying since the campaign, that they would not raise taxes on anyone making less than 250K. Well that’s nothing new, so that’s not news right…

Okay, so now we move in to step 2 creating news interest. Okay you say you won’t be rising taxes on the middle-class, but are you saying that no matter what happens over the next eight years, regardless of what happens to the economy, what ever situation that might come up down the road that you would not be raising taxes on the middle-class? Here we go fatal flaw, answering a hypothetical by saying that you can’t answer a hypothetical. “It’s never a good idea to rule anything out, to say what you will and will not do in an unforeseen event.”

Now later on Sunday, Yellin asks what it means that Summers and Geithner failed to answer a hypothetical scenario with apparently the only acceptable phrase “read my lips no new taxes on the middle-class ever no matter what the country might have to deal with over the next eight years” KT, you recently interviewed Obama about the health care plan, didn’t it seem as if they were leaving the door open to raise taxes? Huh, huh didn’t it seem that they opened the door, it did didn’t it? Then comes relative silence (or some answer that didn’t amount to a hill of beans but at least can’t be construed as grounds for never being invited back — sorry kT). Apparently my dad’s admonishment growing up that that silence does not give consent was apparently crap — love you anyway dad.

Now let’s move further into the process and we are now interviewing Republicans, who btw were not identified as such, who claim to know that raising taxes is inevitable and accuse the administration of knowing this but prefers not to let the public know until after the economy gets better. The media assertion a la Ali, now shifts to “obviously the administration knows it will have to raise taxes down the road, that’s why they didn’t rule it out because they remember what happened to Bush when he made his read my lips pledge.”

Media — next question, enter AC360 sidekick chick, considering the 2010 election are coming up, wouldn’t it be better to raise taxes now and get it out of the way? Followed by, what will it take to get the administration to come clean about raising taxes? So now we arrive to Gibbs having to once again reiterate the presidents pledge not to raise taxes on the group who just received a tax cut in the stimulus, that he has promise to provide tax relief since the campaign and for whose behalf he vowed to vito his signature health reform bill unless they were protected from tax hikes. Whew — my goodness that was a long way to travel to get a story, who says that the media is lazy, that was hard work just recounting all the steps to creating a news story. But there you go, type in middle-class tax increase in your nexus my friend and prove me wrong. I triple dog dear you!

Yes. I. Am. Subscribe today, Six issues. $1.99.

https://subs.timeinc.net/TD/td_6for199offer0509.jhtml?experience_id=232067&source_id=15&_requestid=180938&_requestid=180938

being deliberately obtuse is a sure sign that you might be a one ouncer.

Being deliberately obtuse is a sure sign of a one ouncer.

Don’t the vast majority of voters not even use the youtubes at all? Because every time I see the lefty blogosphere referenced in the media, people point out how darned marginalized it is and how few people it represents, etc. Meanwhile Glen Beck, who is really in the business of selling bogus gold investments to people is presented as somehow influential.

Oh and now this guy on the youtubes. He’s influential now. Okay.

Today is President Obama’s 48th birthday. Born in either Hawaii or Kenya, I’d like to take this opportunity to wish him a Happy Birthday. When the Birthers get tired of this and move on to something equally ridiculous, I’d like to dub their followup group the AfterBirthers. Gross as hell and you don’t want to get anywhere near it.

” .. too happy to pick up his nastiness and make it more “legitmiate”. ..”

Next, MS is eagerly going to blog about what those at “The National Enquirer” are up to lately. We know that inquiring minds of Swamplanders want to know. Right?

Psst!, MS, have you looked at “PLAYBOY” lately – for the articles? There are good articles in there worth a blog at TIME ..

I too wish President Obama a happy b-day. I asked Karen in her youtube post above if she and colleagues would give him a cake, wine, or a framed COLB signed by TIME reporters. Hopefully that would silence the birthers. Next time Lou Dobbs is in the Oval Office Obama can point to KT’s present on the wall, snarling, “See? See? I exist, already!” The one drawback, though, about being Prez is no more surprise parties at b-days. No doubt the Secret Service hates those.

MS: Good for you. Don’t take no for an answer. I’m giving subscriptions out as Christmas gifts. I encourage others to do the same. My friends who can read will appreciate it as a thoughtful gift that keeps them informed. For my other friends…it has pictures you backwoods ignorant f’ing hillbillies.

The Drudge Report is simply an aggregate of links. Sure there is selective management of which stories to link to, but the Report is not just making things up like the National Enquirer. There is nothing disinformative about this method.
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On a different note, we are on an online blog in which these reporters post links, tidbits of information, sometimes substantial analysis, ect. Basically a whole slew of various posts on various topics. MS did not write a lengthy analysis of this for the print version of TIME. This blog is specifically for instances such as this, where the reporters can simply drop a line or a link and let us comment. MS is not obligated to write lengthy thought provoking and politically charged pieces on every one of these posts. That defeats the purpose of having such an easy medium through which TIME staff can just throw out some interesting, however irrelevant, happenings without wasting valuable page space in the paper edition. Please back off, for God’s sake. It’s a bloody online blog, what the hell do you people expect?

That sounds tongue-in-cheek.

Um. As a professional blogger for Time Magazine, you got paid to post these two videos on your blog?! How about some carefully crafted analysis?

I fear you might be rattling your readers for no good reason and without presenting any real cause.

What the heck is “jarring” in that interview, and why do you call it “jarring”?

Christ, you are a hack.

What MS meant to say:
“We live in a land where a person who goes by the name Michael Scherer“NakedEmperor” with editing software and a laptop can announce with no substantiation at all that a person named “NakedEmperor” can rattle the President of the United States.”
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Was Obama rattled? I doubt it.
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Is he concerned that ‘journalists’ for national news magazines post videos of sentences taken out of context, produced by propagandists, and offer little more insight into the videos than “Oooo lookie!”. Probably.

Michael,
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Karen Tumulty has also posted about the same video. I learned something about the context of the video by reading her post. I learned nothing from you. Do you consider what you do just a different ‘style’ of journalism?

Whaddya mean “WEAK.” What do you want them to do?
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1. Grow a pair. When someone comes after you, don’t get defensive, counterattack.
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2. Demonize and personalize your opponents. Take the CEOs of the companies that are funding the town hall disruptions and release ads and viral videos attacking how much the executives make, how much of the average person’s premium goes to pay the CEOs, and show the actual houses, yachts, planes, etc. of the CEOs.
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3. Make it well known that any company that engages in Swiftboating the health care debate is going to be cut out of the legislative process. Right now, these companies — correctly — believe that they can launch a two-pronged attack. On one hand directly lobbying Congress and the White House. OTOH, funding mini-riots and astroturf propaganda efforts. Make them pay for that strategy.

Well said.

I’m not sure what is more amazing…that they are trying to deny the meaning of the words that we can clearly see and hear Obama saying about preferring/wanting a Single Payer system…Or is it more amazing that they are denying that a Single Payer system is Obama’s ultimate goal.

We all know what he said, and we all know what his goal is… Single Payer!

Go read Karen’s post about this same video. Read what Obama said at that time (which is, frankly, a scrambled mess). Maybe then you’ll be less amazed.
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BTW — Ronald Reagan was a registered Democrat, admirer of Franklin D. Roosevelt, and supporter of the New Deal. Really. He was. Reagan’s position changed over time. Did that amaze you too?

Karen: What has Drudge contributed to journalism, other tha nmaking one of your colleagues a goofball. Why is this pinhead treated as if he determines what gets reported? Are you and your colleagues his enabler? This fellow hides in some “undisclosed location” and pushes Halperin’s button, and Mike Allen’s too and you and your colleagues think he is credible.

He dishes dirt? Id that what “journalists” do?

Quoting someone is not nastiness.

out-of-context, i.e., when he didn’t know what the f he was talking about . .. .
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do better than that, moron

The naked emperor clip borrows heavily from this clip posted more than two months ago: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZ-6ebku3_E

Thanks to Naked Emperor News for adding a hat tip for the assist.

Here is the uncut version of the video where Obama clearly states that he prefers a Single Payer plan and acknowledges that “we may not get there immediately”.

Decide for yourself, America.

http://www.breitbart.tv/obama-in-03-id-like-to-see-a-single-payer-health-care-plan/

Full text of video:
“I happen to be a proponent of a single payer universal health care program. I see no reason why the United States of America, the wealthiest country in the history of the world, spending 14 percent of its Gross National Product on health care cannot provide basic health insurance to everybody. And that’s what Jim is talking about when he says everybody in, nobody out. A single payer health care plan, a universal health care plan. And that’s what I’d like to see. But as all of you know, we may not get there immediately. Because first we have to take back the White House, we have to take back the Senate, and we have to take back the House.”

She did not prove, at all, that the naked emperor video was cobbled and misleading. She just declared it with ZERO proof and then offered her clips.

Very ineffective rebuttal. I am unconvinced that President Obama does not want to destroy insurance companies and throw the system into chaos (at least initially).

Linda Douglas: C-

I am also for Obama’s plan…but Linda did a poor job of political message control here.

White House response:

Don’t believe them. Believe us.