Michele Bachmann is Cens(us)less

The constitution doesn’t require much participation from the American people. It protects their rights — free speech, to bear arms, a fair trial, etc – but it doesn’t even make voting mandatory. The one action it does require is for citizens to stand up and get counted, which is why every 10 years the census bureau floods the postal system with millions of forms and deploys an army of counters.

However seemingly straight forward, the census has always been a political animal. Congressional districts live and die off of its results and control of the counting is a much guarded power – witness the concern when President Obama named Republican Senator Judd Gregg to head the Commerce Department, home of the Census Bureau. Still, lawmakers, servants of the constitution, are usually known to uphold its much revered instructions. Not this year.
Two-term Republican Rep. Michele Bachmann of Minnesota is refusing to fully fill out her census form in protest that the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, a housing rights group known as ACORN, has been approved as one of 30,000 partners to help conduct the counting. Conservatives such as Bachmann say the group is overtly partisan and pushes the liberal agenda.

“There’s great concern that’s being raised because now ACORN has been named as one of the federal partners,” Bachmann told the Washington Times last month. “This is very concerning because the motherload of all data comes from the census.” Bachmann said she would fill out only the number of people in her household, but “we won’t be answering any information beyond that, because the Constitution doesn’t require any information beyond that.” She risks a misdemeanor charge and a fine of up to $5,000 for refusing to answer census questions.

Politifact, a Pulitzer-prize winning website, disputed Bachmann’s claim that ACORN’s involvement translates to a politicized census. “ACORN will not be ‘in charge’ of going door-to-door and collecting data from the American public, as Bachmann said. The U.S. Census will be in charge of that,” the website said. “Some of the 1.4 million people who get Census-taking jobs may learn about the job through ACORN. Workers who apply to the Census through ACORN have no better shot at the job than those who apply through any of the 30,000 other partners. That’s it.”

After failing to convince her privately, three of Bachmann’s G.O.P. colleagues wrote her an open letter last week urging her to participate in the census. “Boycotting the constitutionally mandated Census is illogical, illegal and not in the best interest of our country,” Reps. Patrick McHenry of North Carolina, Lynn Westmoreland of Georgia and Florida’s John Mica, members of the Oversight and Government Reform Subcommittee on Information Policy, Census and National Achieves, said in the letter. “[A] boycott opens the door for partisans to statistically adjust Census results. The partisan manipulation of census data would irreparably transform the Census from being the baseline of our entire statistical system into a tool used to wield political power in Washington.”

Bachmann, who is facing a tough reelection bid, says her office has been flooded with calls and e-mails of support. But she has also been on the receiving end of some scathing editorials in Minnesota, one of them calling her a conspiracy theorist. Another wryly noted that, given Minnesota’s waning population, the state could well lose a House seat and the seat most in danger is Bachmann’s. Is it wise, therefore, to be encouraging constituents not to fill out census forms?

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  • FlownOver

    Nose, say farewell to face. And I hadn’t thought it possible to make Patrick McHenry sound rational, but here we have it.

    Palin-Bachmann ’12 – Protecting America from Reality

    Oh, and it’s “mother lode.” Also.

  • Paul-no not that one

    “Bachmann, who is facing a tough reelection bid,”
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    What makes you say that? I haven’t seen any polling and that is an oddball district. If it’s Tarryl Clark maybe but she hasn’t committed to run, that I have heard anyway.
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    And if it is Elwyn Tinklenberg then I hope he learned how to run a district wide race. He stunk last time when he had a ton of money, Bachmann being Bachmann, and a very popular top of the ticket.

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    Has anyone ever studied the incidence rate of raging paranoia and compared results across urban and rural settings? I wonder how well the effectiveness of raising ACORN as a cartoon villian correlates with people who avoid cities like the plague?

  • 53_3

    Last time I was in an ACORN office, it certainly didn’t look like a hideous hotbed of terrorist activities.
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    There were two ladies helping some of the working poor in the community with their taxes. Another was a volunteer organizer, with all kinds of homey brick-a-brac lining the “wall” defining her cubicle.
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    No AK47′s piled in a corner, no explosive belts on the tables ore anything. Heck, there wasn’t even ONE picture of Obama anywhere to be seen!

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    motherload…mother lode
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    Amazing what they don’t teach in school anymore.
    The mining reference will soon be long lost…….

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks
  • juniusredivivus

    motherload is what Jonah Goldberg offers. Mother lode, on the other hand…

    It’s as bad as the idiots who write “reigns of power” not “reins of power” and don’t get the original metaphor from controlling a horse.

    Some day I hope a movie will be made entitled “Whacky Baccy Minnesota”. If you just stuck to the facts of Madam Kooky’s career, no-one would believe you. But as a stoner comedy, it would make perfect sense.

  • http://nicewhitelady.blogspot.com/ joyomama

    I’d say Bachmann is the one serving up the muthaload.

  • FlownOver

    ACORN is just an item on the wingnuts’ short list of cheap shot Big Lies. This deception and dishonesty will continue as long as reporters fail to understand the “issue” and confront them with the facts whenever the hatemongers refer to ACORN as some sort of latter-day SPECTRE.

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    SPECTRE?
    Not KAOS or THRUSH?

  • kbanginmotown

    FO: Patrick Henry gave the speech. Fort McHenry withstood the bombs bursting in air.
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    Perhaps Rep. Bachmann can persuade the Census Bureau to distribute tinfoil hats along with the questionnaires…

  • deconstructiva

    Michele Bachmann has some serious fears. Like Charlie Brown’s discovery from Lucy, does she have pantophobia, the fear of everything? (And Charles Schulz hailed from MN also, no doubt from a different area than MB.) She needs to embrace those fears. Can we help? I’d suggest:
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    1.) Instead of ignoring census, BE a door-to-door census worker…in the worst areas of the Twin Cities counting those evil, troll-y homeless people. They count too, yes? no? maybe?
    2.) Remember 3-24-09 congress hearing / spat vs. Bernanke and Geithner?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9DgMG-_6Ls She doesn’t want to see a new global currency replace the dollar? Well, let’s have Bernanke go to China and Russia and create one up anyway…and put Michele’s face on the new bill, to be called the “Bachmann”.
    3.) She must replace all light bulbs in her house – and her district – with compact fluorescents – remember THAT from 3/08? http://www.startribune.com/politics/national/house/17002506.html
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    I know you’re married, Michele *sigh* but call us anyway, we’re here to help.

  • kattest123

    1. Politifact is a trustworthy provider of Beltway CW, nothing more.
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    2. Here’s more on ACORN.
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    3. Here’s Census topic that no one at Time won’t look into; note that millions of foreign citizens in the U.S. will have an effect on our political system via Cong. apportionment.

  • deconstructiva

    FlownOver and Paul Dirks: Michele with SPECTRE? Would she be #1 or #2? Imagine her sitting in a chair all day stroking a cat OR picture her as Largo with an eyepatch and trying to nuke Miami in scuba gear. Lovely! Beats having her in Congress, I guess.

  • FlownOver

    kbanginmotown:
    Yeah, I was kind of aware of both facts. I’m sure you’ll agree the merging of those two proud historical icons in the name of the U.S. Representative from the 10th District of North Carolina is an unfortunate coincidence. Having heard Rep. McHenry’s overheated partisanship often during the ’08 campaign I’m surprised he’s now making more sense than Bachmann on this Census kerfuffle.

  • choska

    Bachmann, like Palin, is one of scores of millions of people who believe in conspiracy theories and fairy tales.
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    When I clicked on kattest123′s link I stumbled into a world of kooks. The more links I clicked, the more I read, the more I realized I live in a country where millions of people are simply out of their minds.
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    I found people wrapped around the axle about the census and refusing to fill out the form for reasons that included: Obama coming to take their guns, the Democrats wanted to round up conservatives and put them in re-education camps, the Democrats would turn over the census data for the UN so THEY would know who to round up.
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    Of course, I also found the usual craziness about Obama lacking a birth certificate, Obama and ACORN committing election fraud, Obama working with Osama to take over the US. I also found ringing calls for “the people” to take back the US from the Democrats. Crazy.
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    For the record, the Constitution states that the census should count everyone LIVING in the US. The Census Bureau can’t decide on its own not to count undocumented immigrants.
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    We can debate whether or not illegal aliens should count in Congressional apportionment. But let’s lay off beating up on the Census Bureau. Michelle Bachmann’s lunacy is already stirring up millions of well-armed right-wing nuts. And the result is going to be some census taker getting gunned down by some slack-jawed mouth breather.

  • FlownOver

    More paranoid blather does not a convincing argument make; in fact, it sort of proves my earlier point – irresponsible wingnuts will say anything (loudly, endlessly and outrageously – the essence of the Big Lie technique) to incite fear and hatred of fellow Americans, especially when the extreme right itself lacks anything constructive to propose.

  • kattest123

    choska is, of course, a liar. I don’t even discuss Bachmann at either link, much less anyone refusing to fill out the form.
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    As for BHO’s cert, here’s the truth about that issue. If anyone has a valid counter-argument (note: lying like choska is not a valid argument), feel free to post it. So far, no one’s been able to come up with one. If you scroll down that page, you’ll see a simple challenge that anyone can do: simply pick up the phone and confirm your assumptions. No one has tried to do something so simple (or they have and they didn’t want to print what they found out).
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    I’ve also got a corrections thread linked from every page (in the left sidebar). It’s been up there for over a month and so far no requests have come in. If you spot something I need to correct, and – unlike choska you can provide a valid argument – feel free to leave a comment.

  • choska

    I’m reading Nixonland right now. The good news is that as crazy as the US is right now, it is NOTHING like it was in the late 1960s.
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    Back then the conservatives, led by Ronald Reagan, were busy telling the white folks that the black folks were the enemy. They were lazy, shiftless, and violent, and they were coming to burn down your house.
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    Today, conservative politicians and wingnut no longer openly hate black people. They may hate gay people and Latinos, but they aren’t using the police force to lynch them.
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    Actually, I take that back. Just this past week there was a raid in Texas at a gay bar, and in San Diego the sheriff’s dept. raided a meeting of middle-aged Democrats and pepper sprayed them.
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    I stand corrected. 2009 is just as bad as 1969. Ronald Reagan and William F. Buckley are dead, but Sarah Palin and William Kristol live.

  • wagonjak3

    I hope the delusional Bachman convinces thousands of her fellow wing-nuts NOT to fill out the census.

    This will be thousands fewer Republicans and conservatives recorded to figure out the make-up and money distribution for districts and States…and should benefit the Dems…

  • choska

    kattest, I understand that nothing I say will convince you to change your point of view on anything. All I can do is point you to this link: http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate.
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    My guess is that the reason no one is bothering to fill out your corrections thread is because (a) everyone who stumbles on to your site is a conspiracy theorist, or (b) they have the good sense to know that you are living in Bizarro world.
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    As for your assertion that I’m a liar, I don’t know what to say. I guess I take it as a badge of honor that a Birther thinks that I’m a liar.

  • rose83

    OT, Headline and caption from the NY times site:
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    Bias Suit a Test of Resolve for Hispanic Man
    By A. G. SULZBERGER
    Called a turncoat by some, a New Haven firefighter has held to a view that merit should prevail over affirmative action in governing promotions.

    .
    Which is not what the case is about. The MSM’s embrace of ignorant merit vs. racial equality narratives in this case is so irritating.

  • juniusredivivus

    We do seem to be attracting a lower quality of troll recently. Just ignore kattest and he/she will vanish like the unlamented spob.

  • ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®©

    .
    When I clicked on kattest123′s link I stumbled into a world of kooks. The more links I clicked, the more I read, the more I realized I live in a country where millions of people are simply out of their minds.
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    I’ve made that mistake before, myself. But heck, it’s on the innert00bz, so IT MUST BE TRUE!
    ~

  • choska

    Height of irony that a Sulzberger, writing a front page story the NY Times, is harping about merit prevailing over affirmative action when it comes to promotions.
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    I guess promotions determined by your birth are ok in the Sulzberger family, as long as it is a Sulzberger being promoted.
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    And you are right, rose, Mr. Sulzberger is completely missing the point about the Ricci case. Congress wrote a law. The Appeals Court read the law and said it had to affirm the case because the law was clear. The Supreme Court legislated from the bench and overturned the law.

  • 53_3

    kattest123:
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    Why in hell would anyone want to peruse your delusional/paranoid world?
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    You are dumber ‘n a warm rock on a windowsill!

  • kattest123

    Anyway, back to the land of logic and reason.
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    1. The link choska provides contains a *picture* on a web page. And, the state of Hawaii refuses to confirm that the information on that picture matches what they have on file. See the link in my last comment, which includes a challenge: if you think that’s wrong, try and get HI to confirm that BHO’s *picture* of a cert matches what they have on file. It’s easy: simply pick up the phone. (When I asked, they refused).
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    2. The WaPo link at choska’s page contains a lie.
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    3. The FactCheck link at choska’s page contains a major lie; see the link in my previous comment.
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    4. Another page at “FightTheSmears” outrageously smeared someone by deleting a whole sentence from the inside of one of his quotes, without indicating that it had been omitted.
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    5. Here’s about 16 examples of BHO lying or misleading: 24ahead.com/s/obama-misleads
    The only reason there aren’t more is because I added that tagging system after the election and I haven’t yet got around to tagging all of them.

  • 53_3

    “Anyway, back to the land of logic and reason.”
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    Wow! Even you admit that yours is a crack-driven zone. Of course, there always the back button, which will take you to your, uh, well, whateveritisyoucallthatbatshirt.

  • 53_3

    Wow! I had no idea those ladies I met at the ACORN office were such hideous criminals. They must all be plants so that no one notices the stogie-smoking mob character in the back office…

  • juniusredivivus

    JNS is wrong on one point though, which is that under United States Code, Title 13 (Census), Chapter 7 (Offenses and Penalties), SubChapter II, if you are over 18 and refuse to answer all or part of the Census, you can be fined up to $100. If you give false answers, the fine is up to $500. If you show “intent to cause inaccurate enumeration of population,” the fine is up to $1,000, up to a year in prison, or both.
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    https://ask.census.gov/cgi-bin/askcensus.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=642&p_created=1093522639&p_sid=G7js5WBj&p_accessibility=0&p_redirect=&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9MTE3LDExNyZwX3Byb2RzPSZwX2NhdHM9JnBfcHY9JnBfY3Y9JnBfcGFnZT0xJnBfc2VhcmNoX3RleHQ9cmVmdXNhbCBjZW5zdXMgZm9ybQ**&p_li=&p_topview=1

  • juniusredivivus

    Choska and 53_3, please ignore the troll. Why waste time on the Michelle Bachmanns of the ‘net?

  • ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®©

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    Why waste time on the Michelle Bachmanns of the ‘net?
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    Because they’re funny?
    ~

  • gysgt213

    NO one should be surprised about the behavior and strange rantings of the likes of Bachmann, Hannity, O’Reilly, Beck, Coulter and a host of people like them. There were signs this was coming when the media decided Rush was a serious voice of the conservative movement. Out of him all these like others spawned and talk radio, tv talking heads and the print media forced them all upon the American public by constantly taking what they said seriously.
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    But crazy they are not. They know exactly what they are doing and they know they can disrupt any serious discourse about any topic by saying the most outrageous things ever. And some one in the media attempting to gain their favor and acceptance will either print, link to or bring them on the tevee for them to spout nonsense and get the attention they crave. The answer will always be there is an audience for these type of people and there is some truth to that. But there is also an audience for all kinds of freaky and kooky crap and we don’t force them all into the mainstream.
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    Think about all the talk shows Bachmann’s been on, think about all the times Coulter has been invited on the Today Show to hawk her latest worthless book, think about all the platforms Hannity, Beck and O’Reilly have available to them.

  • Cliff

    kattest – your blog has a bad design. I mean it hurts my eyes and I can’t find anything on there.

  • kattest123

    Cliff: I’ve actually been trying to dumb things down as much as possible, but apparently not enough. There are four ways to search my site in the right sidebar, including one that uses an AJAX autocomplete so you can just start typing “obam” and it will show you all the tags involving him.
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    However, I realize that’s not enough for people like you, so I’ve considered building some form of “control panel” that would be at the top or bottom of each page with search functions and the like. That way even people like you could find things.
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    Also, I note that no one has yet provided any sort of valid counter-argument but others have only engaged in ad homs and nothing else.
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    Perhaps they’re all busy calling HI vainly trying to get them to confirm that what’s on BHO’s site matches what HI has on file. That must be it!

  • choska

    gysgt is on to something. The real problem isn’t the kooks like Bachmann. The problem is the NY Times and CNN have people like Bachmann, Palin, and Buchanan on the air, and then sit quietly while they spin fairy tales.
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    All of it enables people to believe that Obama is a Kenyan born gay, Muslim, racist who refuses to say the Pledge of Allegiance. At least they don’t know that he isn’t a gay, Muslim, racist who was born in Kenya. And they are convinced that there is a conspiracy out there to hide the “truth” from the people.
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    As for kattest, not sure which rock he or she crawled out from under but I think it is to everyone’s advanatage to engage them. The kooks have run out all of the sane members of the GOP, like most of my family, who can make a cogent argument for smaller and smarter government. The 20% of the population that still call themselves Republican are the conspiracy theorists who think Obama *might* just be a gay, Muslim, racist who was born in Kenya.
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    The more we engage the nuts, the more they force people like my father-in-law, who never voted for a Democrat in his life, out of the GOP. He voted for Obama because, he says, he didn’t want to be associated with the crazy people in the GOP.
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    Where that leaves us in this country is a debate between the Independents/Blue Dogs and the Progressives about the future of the country. That is a debate worth having. The GOP really doesn’t, or shouldn’t, have a voice in the debate.
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    The GOP only exists as a media-entity. Its base now consists of Birthers. And the more we engage that base, the more we encourage kattest to spin his or her theories about Obama being BOTH gay and a Muslim, the more difficult it will be for the media to think of the GOP as a serious political force.
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    It is already a mortal lock that the next Senators from Maine will be Dems. Ohio will likely replace Voinovich with a Dem. After this episode, http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/71230.html, where Crist refused to name an appeals court judge because all of the nominees were white, it seems more and more likely that the GOP in Fla will nominate Rubio over Crist. The Dems couldn’t beat Crist, but they have a real shot at Rubio. Forget 60 votes for the Dems. In a couple of years the Democrats will be at 62 if not better.
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    The realignment isn’t here yet. We still have too many GOP members in Congress and on the television, But I am hopeful for the day when we no longer have to listen to people like Pat Buchanan and Jim DeMint spew nonsense.

  • sacredh

    Is Bachmann a breeder? I hope not. I would guess that Michelle tries at least a little bit not to go off the deep end when making public comments. She wouldn’t have those constraints at home where she can just “be herself”. If she has kids, I truly feel bad for them. Mommy can’t tuck you in tonight kids, she has to walk the perimeter and check the razorwire.

  • choska

    I haven’t called HI yet to ask them about the birth certificate. I was too busy calling the White House to ask them about Obama being a gay Muslim.
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    I got through to the switchboard, and they *said* he was a heterosexual Christian. But who knows what he really is. One thing I can guarantee is that the NY Times and NBC will never investigate these substantial and serious allegations.
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    I can tell by everyone else’s comments that you are just blind to the truth. There is serious reason to believe that Barack HUSSEIN Obama is a Kenyan-born gay Muslim who pals around with known racists and terrorists.
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    WAKE UP SHEEPLE. Can’t you see the truth when it is right in front of you?

  • pippapippa

    You know, if many of Michelle Bachmann’s loyal constituents refuse to return their census forms, her congressional district may end up being eliminated (districts are based on census population figures). Wouldn’t that be a shame?

    On second thought, go, Bachmann! Make a big stand on this! Get all your voters to obey!

  • trifecta55

    Minnesota might lose a seat anyways.

  • choska

    I think everyone knows that the Census is nothing more than a plot by the gay Muslim Kenyan to find out who owns guns so he can take their guns away.
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    Wake up! We are through the looking glass, people.

  • pippapippa

    When do the media start pointing out that ravings like this indicate a serious medical condition called “paranoia”? For years now– well, at least since the Vince Foster suicide– major political and media figures (Limbaugh, the WSJ ed page, Drudge, etc) have been saying all sorts of truly crazed things that in decades past, would likely have gotten them committed. And yet they go on and get to use the airwave to promulgate their paranoid fantasies– and even to influence the national policy on rather important issues like, uh, climate change.

    We’ve been living with it for so long, I wonder if we’re just not noticing how NUTS they are.

  • Cliff

    Cliff: I’ve actually been trying to dumb things down as much as possible, but apparently not enough.
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    Nice. But I’m actually disappointed that you didn’t chew me out for calling it a blog.

  • choska

    With Pawlenty leaving there seems to be only one way to save Minnesota: http://draftbachmann.com/
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    Any besides me willing to pay good money to see a debate between Garrison Keillor (who many people suspect of being a gay, racist Muslim who was born in Kenya) and Michele Bachmann? Her unique blend of logic and facts would destroy that limp-wristed, Volvo-driving, latte-drinking, liberal.

  • http://nicewhitelady.blogspot.com/ joyomama

    Choska,
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    As for kattest, not sure which rock he or she crawled out from under but I think it is to everyone’s advanatage to engage them.
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    That may work in a face-to-face encounter with someone with whom you already have a relationship — I do want to believe that facts can conquer ignorance. But in many, many years on the internet (back to use.net, before the WWW), I have never witnessed troll conversion. The more trolls are engaged here the Swampland, the less the sane readers will want to come around and participate.
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    Please don’t respond to anyone who seems uninterested in a real exchange of fact-based views. On either side of the political divide.

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  • ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®©

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    How are you gentlemen. All your swampland blog are belong to us.
    Ha Ha Ha.
    -Kattest
    ~

  • gysgt213

    Sarah Palin is resigning.

  • gysgt213

    WASILLA, Alaska – Sarah Palin plans to resign as governor of Alaska in a few weeks, KTUU-TV reported Friday.
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    Palin, the Republican vice presidential candidate in 2008, made the announcement at her home Friday morning, the station said.
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    Lt. Gov. Sean Parnell will take over at the end of the month, KTUU reported.
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    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31726640/ns/politics-more_politics/

  • gysgt213

    WASILLA, Alaska – At an 11:00 a.m. press conference today, Governor Sarah Palin announced that she would not seek a second term as governor. The governor continued, saying that by the end of the month she would resign from the governorship.
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    On a day that most public employees have off, Palin sent out an early morning press release indicating that she would be giving an announcement from her home in Wasilla. Joining Palin were her parents, family and state commissioners.
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    Palin announced that she will transfer power to Lt. Governor Sean Parnell. Parnell will be sworn in during the upcoming governor’s picnic in Fairbanks on July 25. An emotionally choked-up Parnell said he plans to keep all state commissioners and continue to pursue a natural gas pipeline.
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    Palin did not field questions and would not give any indications as to her future plans.
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    http://www.ktva.com/ci_12746301

  • choska

    Interesting. I guess being Governor was getting in the way of her television career. Murdoch must have made her an offer she couldn’t refuse.

  • gysgt213

    She is giving some type of weird pass the ball rambling news conference on CNN. Teh woman has not changed teh stupid yet.

  • gysgt213

    I think CNN just showed the LtGov standing there with his family, watching her rambling on and on about perceived or imagined attacks against her family and looking like WTF is she talking about and when will she STFU.

  • gysgt213

    Waslia supporters of Sarah seemed to be very small in number. Like maybe 10?

  • choska

    Can’t wait for the other shoe to drop. Perhaps she’s been Hiking the Appalachian Trail.

  • gysgt213

    And Sarah wonders why John wouldn’t let her make a concession speech. Good lord what a train wreck.

  • Cliff

    Sorry for engaging kattest, everyone. He’s just so much gosh darn fun to aggravate. But I’ll stop.

  • anon76

    I just have to say, ‘Hiking the Appalachian Trail’ has to be one of the best euphemisms ever.

  • shepherdwong

    “ACORN is just an item on the wingnuts’ short list of cheap shot Big Lies.”
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    I always wonder if they realize how consistently they show the psychological development of Pavlov’s dogs.

  • apollyon07

    Reps. Patrick McHenry of North Carolina, Lynn Westmoreland of Georgia and Florida’s John Mica…how about them in 2012/16?
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    And OH MY GOD Kattest, the “Obama is a Muslim” thing? Really?! So Obama somehow has concealed his “Muslim faith” for all these years? You know, what makes me maddest about that thing, is not that people are lying about his religion, it’s the implication that if he was/is really a Muslim, that this would be some sort of a problem. Don’t we live in a secular country? It’s not the politician’s religious beliefs that should be of concern, it should be how they apply it to actual governing.
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    For example: 1-Mike Huckabee is a devout Christian. No problem.
    2- Mike Huckabee went on the record saying that we should change the Constitution to fit God’s word. Huge problem.
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    See what I’m saying? And as an aside, believing that Obama is a closet Muslim to me is almost as crazy as believing what those idiot “9/11 Truthers” believe.

  • 53_3

    apollyon07:
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    Last I remember, the Church of England was at the core of the numerous references to ‘separation of church and state’.
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    I hope you and Exiled can find a new home in the opposition that isn’t so crazy. I really do, because we need an opposing force to keep us honest, and if we don’t measure up, we’ll go the way of the last administration. Oh, for a return to the respect for checks and balances, and not just the oft-referred to ones in elected government!

  • apollyon07

    53_3: Thanks, I hope I do too, but at this point in time I’m not optimistic. It really is necessary for there to be a good opposing force.

  • 53_3

    apollyon07:
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    I can’t see us being this nutty at the end of our time at the helm, but, without any opposition, the only restraint is that which we place on ourselves, and that is not good news!

  • sacredh

    Without checks and balances you know we’re going to get into trouble. When you’re in a position to get anything you want, there has to be someone holding you back. I’m hoping our blue dog democrats keep things in perspective if the meltdown on the other side continues. The blue dogs are a party within a party.

  • juniusredivivus

    Sacredh, the bluedogs are good for nothing except themselves. And they have only one perspective: preen for the camera, utter platitudes about balance, and smile as the corporate money flows in.

  • http://mickeymusing.vox.com/ mickeymusing

    Hasn’t anyone told her that if she fails to answer the census fully she will simply cease to exist? Her actions will irreparably alter the time-space continuum and–due to the ‘butterfly effect’–forever change both history and the future. Good lawd, has no one told her that this impact on our society could well mean that her BFF, Jesus “JC” Christ, might never have been born and we could all end up living under an Islamic theocracy?

    Actually, I wish people would just leave her alone about this. She is so entertaining in her bizarro conspiracy theory world, it would be a shame to have her suddenly do something rational and normal. Besides, it would be poetic justice if her own stupidity cost her her seat and cost the state of MN (where I am from) a district. Truly no great loss if that district goes away: http://mickeymusing.vox.com/library/post/huac-lewey-and-dumbass.html.

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