UnBolted

Three words, Joe:
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Military-industrial complex.

No kidding. I’d love to get whatever kickbacks JB is getting. Let’s gut the UN while we’re at it.

Your question assumes that the op-ed editors themselves aren’t “dangerous and demented”. The objective facts suggest otherwise.

Joe: Bolton is nothing if not so predictable. Does it have to do with his hair? I notice his mustache is white and that his coif is not. How does such a discredited guy get published? Oh wait: Kristol, Kagan,…I see.

One wonders which op-ed page editor will succumb

Simple. One who is suitable predisposed ..

Would the same fair-minded editors print an article advocating for a strike against Israel? Is it that a good case for such an action cannot be made?

How about an article on bombing Bolton? Two things:

1. The central thesis of all of these is utter bilge. They ran the same scam around China back in the 60s; so ideological and irrational, cannot have the bomb. Well, surprise. The mullahs have houses, families, power, monuments… they don’t want those turned into radioactive glass. Fuggeddaboudit.

2. The problem is money in politics. Eliminate all political donations and voila, the power of the Likud right and the militarist industrialists gets way smaller, and Congresscritters spend more time actually studying issues, passing legislation etc. Perhaps we could even have a Republic again instead of a consumer kleptocracy. Money is not speech, never was, never will be. Stupid.

gpanfile:
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I second this. Look at India and Pakistan, who realized that the thought of a 60,000,000C blast accompanied by an intense gamma flash is far more discouraging the then encouragement of the rants of even their own politicians, no matter how crazy.

gpanfile: ” “Eliminate all political donations and voila …”

And we thought that we had THE definitive people’s campaign in 2008 – entirely enabled and fueled by hope and the small donations from the common, hopeful people.

Who spread that lie?

Beholden only to the ordinary man?

So it came to pass that the ordinary man, the patriotic American, gets stiffed in Obama administration: The long-suffering salt-of-the-earth American hillbilly starves, goes homeless and hope-less even as $30 billion of the people’s resources go to feed holier-than-thou, lazy, all-day-war-mongering foreign parasites.

Why not give the $30 billion of America’s resources to “Habitat for Humanity” to build homes for Americans instead of building homes for foreign Israeli?

Did someone say “CHANGE”?
2012 cometh.

Steve benen links helpfully to this post and equally helpfully to this:
http://washingtonindependent.com/49478/help-the-iranian-people-by-killing-them
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is directed against the regime, not against the Iranian people
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This is the number one delusion of NeoCons. Anyone remember the flowers and chocolates that were supposed to greet us in Iraq. Has anyone noticed that certain people are still surprised at the Iraqi lack of ‘gratitude’?
In movies and comic books, its occasionally possible to fire a shot that takes out the bad guy and spares the damsel in distress but in real warfare, explosives don’t give a rat’s a$$ about who’s downrange.

Here’s an idea. Let’s stuff a bunch of $20 bills in Bolton’s pockets, glue a bunch more all over his body and deposit him out in front of the office of the Borgen Project. Let John personally feed the world’s hungry. Let’s start with a country that practices canabalism.

This says a lot about how low the Washington Post has slipped in the ratings of credible news sources… Bolton also needs to confronted and informed that his opinion is no longer welcomed on ANY stage given that ‘inciting’, especially on an International basis, is illegal.

square 1 has a very good point. Which one of these “dangerous and demented” ideas do you think Fred Haitt disagrees with?

Lawd, is Johnny Boy STILL upset that his tail got filibustered from being the neo-con ambassador to the UN? I say let their ideas get flapped around even more. He can’t even tell that American attitudes toward Iran have probably shifted in the last two weeks. All of a sudden they are not the monolith of crazed evil Bush and company needed them to be, but a dynamic and multifaceted society with its own aspirations and values. I’m not saying the revolution will fall, but the case for bombing Iran now is amazingly weaker. Bolton needs to be resoundly ignored.

“Bolton needs to be resoundly ignored”
What’s wrong with laughing and pointing?

This is a proper response to the neoconservative wing-nuttery printed on various op-ed pages.

Not sure how this is really anything new. Hasn’t Bolton had an op-ed in the Post at least…what, every month? Every two months?
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And his issue always seems to be one of ‘why haven’t we glassed Iran yet?’

The problem with ignoring real life trolls like Bolton is the fact that while you and I and other various people in the reality-based community might ignore him, people with the megaphones don’t. Insular editors and pundits will pick up his ideas either because 1) They’re ‘controversial’, and they need someone on that side of the debate to ensure they have their ‘he said, she said’, and 2) it meshes with their personal world view, so they prop him up as someone the ‘people’ want to hear, even if the ‘people’ aren’t really listening to him.
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Ignoring trolls on the internet is fine and well, but once they become ubiquitous and with widespread distribution, ignoring them isn’t an option. The only way to deal with them at that point is to shame them into either disappearing or abandoning their debunked or rebuked arguments.

John Bolton really is what happens if you listen to your inner spob. Sadly, we can’t just ignore the lunatic the way we ignore the troll. Mind you, there does seem to be a suspicious correlation between spob inactivity and Bolton activity… just sayin’.

sacredh @ 1:36, you broke me up with that! One of your finest in my mind. Come to think of it the Borgen project has been relatively quiet lately, perhaps they are concerned about JB finding them.

themaverick…:
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I don’t have an “inner spob”. We have a saying in our family:
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“Gimme got shot”

Ivy_B, I’m glad I could make someone smile. Have you noticed everybody seems to be cutting loose today? I’ve been up for 24 hours and have taken a little pain medication along with a mudslide milkshake so I have an excuse. It must be everybody thinking about the holiday weekend. I did see a post the other day from the Borgen Project, but they may have realized we’re not going to pony up 30 billion anytime soon. Their hearts just aren’t in it like they used to be.

Given that like-minded fellow travelers Chavez, Castro and Obama all support illegally installing the legally deposed, former Honduran dictator, where does loon Klein come down on that subject? Birds of a feather ….

Cohen’s piece carries a dateline of Tehran, but it would be highly unlikely that he is there at the moment. His visa expired sometime last week, and he returned to the U.S., as you can see here in this Times video:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/video/item/roger-cohen-on-iran/

In the Washington Post today, screw-loose wingnut extraordinaire John Bolton has a column in which he advocates an Israeli strike against Iran.
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Which of course makes Iran more likely to want a nuclear bomb in order to deter such a strike.

[...] Ackerman on John Bolton’s General Ripper-esque obsession with bombing Iran (h/t, Steve Benen): Yes, the Israeli bombs will only kill the bad Iranians. When patriotic Iranians [...]

Paul Dirks: ” .. in real warfare, explosives don’t give a rat’s a$$ about who’s downrange. .. “

We know that wars kill mostly civilians – estimated at over 90% civilian casualties in the current hostilities in the Middle east.

As long as they are NOT American civilians – why worry?
We read the following triumphant headline:

“Obama’s First Major Military Operation Under Way in Afghanistan”
http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=50461

We, the Americans of American values, know that toddlers, their mothers and fathers are killed.

Our MSM would not print gruesome pictures of our handiwork which may revolt Americans and turn them against this orgy of gore in a coliseum named Afghanistan/Iraq.

Are the dead all Taliban? 25%?
Self defense? What really did Taliban do to us (that we don’t do unto others?)
[Millions dead and dislocated - and what did the Iraqi do to us?]
Shouldn’t the punishment fit the crime?

Do unto others, so it is said: Would we bother if many of our own were maimed and slaughtered while an invader pursued (a pretext named) “terrorists”, say the murderous KKK and Aryan Brotherhood, in America?
Would we expect our citizen militia to resist such an invader – however mighty?

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We would worry if we invaded Russia because we would pay dearly for the adventurism. But with regard to the cave-dwellers of Afghanistan, our worries are few:

American soldier feared captured in Afghanistan
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090702/ap_on_re_as/as_afghan_us_soldier_captured

Words are just words.
[And there is no refuge for the weak]

———–off-topic, maybe
“Putin has ‘one foot in old ways,’ Obama says”
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090702/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_ap_interview

Tell us about it!
Now, the kettle calls the pot black.

Our level of disappointment with BHO has steadily increased since we elected him. FISA. Guantanamo. Israel’s supremacy/ belligerence. Habeas corpus. War-mongering.

Americans wanted CHANGE. But the CHANGE we got was in rhetoric only – a siren song, a hawk that coos in Cairo as it swoops down on its victims.

It seems as if we got BUSH ACT #3, extreme edition.