Why 60 is the New 50

After I mentioned in yesterday’s Al Franken story that both Senator Ted Kennedy and Robert Byrd have been absent due to medical reasons – thus making the Dems’ majority more like 58 than 60 — I got a lot of questions about Byrd’s health. Byrd was hospitalized after a fall in his home the week of May 11 and released yesterday, nearly seven weeks later. His staff said he contracted a staph infection in the hospital and was not looking at work until last week. Though the 91-year-old is on the mend, Senate Dem aides say no one is expecting him back any time soon (interestingly, few are willing to speak about Byrd on the record because, as one aide put it, why would you want to piss off a guy who has the power to pull your earmarks?).

Everyone thought the Senate would radically change when Dems won it back by a one-vote margin in 2006. Back then that majority was essentially a 46-49 one with Tim Johnson of North South Dakota on sick leave after a brain hemorrhage and with two Independent votes, Joe Lieberman of Connecticut and Bernie Sanders of Vermont. Some things did change: control of the chamber granted, for example, the Judiciary Committee the power to investigate President Bush’s firing of eight U.S. Attorneys. But legislatively, Dems were hamstrung by their inability to overcome Republican filibusters. Theoretically, Franken’s 60th seat grants them the power to grease the wheels on President Obama’s agenda. But, in reality, the majority is more like 56-40 what with Kennedy, Byrd, Lieberman and Sanders.

Many in the House view legislating in the Senate as a race to 60 – any additional votes representing superfluous giveaways. But the Senate moves more in blocs that are hard to splice. Thus the proliferation of gangs: gangs of seven, 16, 10, what have you. Moderates from the left and the right like coming together and giving each other cover, which is why – outside of nominations – one rarely sees extremely close votes in the Senate the way you do in the House. The same coalition courting will continue with Franken there, much the way it did when the Dems had 51 votes, the difference being the majority, perhaps, need not give away as much as they did before. On the other hand, many point to the $30 billion or so cut from the stimulus to get Susan Collins’ vote – presumably money that wouldn’t have been cut if Franken had been there. What they forget is Collins came in a bloc with Arlen Specter and Ben Nelson: lose one and you lose all three.

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  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    The same coalition courting will continue with Franken there
    .
    Except that there will be a new loud voice with a propesity to call BS when he sees it.
    His presence may have more effect than you credit…..

  • Jay Newton-Small

    Loud voice? I thought Franken was following the Hillary Clinton model of celebrity senator?
    JNS

  • square1

    What is it with politicians and their refusal to give up power? A 91 year-old with a staph infection who can’t look at work for 6 weeks? Dude, it is time to RESIGN. Go play some golf. You don’t more important things to do with you life than to dole out pork?

  • square1

    Franken will be an interesting case study in the power of power to corrupt. Certainly he enters the Senate a far more principled and idealistic politician than Hillary ever was. We will see if or when Franken starts compromising, waffling, prioritizing donors, and talking out of both sides of his mouth, like everybody else.

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    I once ran into him in an otherwise empty Reagan International Airport. He’s certainly didn’t sneak up on me.

  • apollyon07

    I have a feeling King Porkulus will be there until the end. I mean, if he hasn’t resigned already…

  • afguy

    You don’t more important things to do with you life than to dole out pork?
    .
    Sorry.. can’t resist . . .
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    Isn’t that Mark Sanford’s role right now? On the international level?

  • queencersei

    The number 60 was always a red herring. You have an entire faction of Blue Dogs who do not tow the party line with their votes. Touting the Franken win and the magic 60 number is merely a great way for Republicans to gin up donations.

  • http://www.simonvinkenoog.nl/beeld/Yogi%20-%20Annelies%20Rigter.jpg yogi

    Most misleading title ever, got me all riled up to mock baby boomers for nothing.

  • pafro

    Does it surprise anyone that the head of the Lieberdems, Joe Lieberman campaigned on universal health care (and ending the Iraq War btw) when he needed to lie to his constituents to get elected, but proclaimed this morning that he was stabbing real health care reform in the face? I am too depressed to look back at what was being printed in TIME during Lieberman’s 2006 primary about how awesome Lieberman was. I guarantee Joe Klein wrote something stupid.

  • gysgt213

    JNS-Why don’t you get Harry Reid on record concerning his failure to provide leadership of the Democrats in the Senate. I wonder if the situation was reversed and you gave Mitch McConnell Harry’s numbers he have this hard of a time holding his troops together and getting things done for the GOP side.

  • apollyon07

    gysgt213- yes, you are so right. And why has Harry Reid not been replaced already? Good Lord, does anyone think the GOP would be as limp were the numbers reversed?

  • kryptik1

    Guys, you don’t even need to ask how things would be, if the numbers were reversed. Just look at the last few years. How many times has there been a party line Democratic vote with Republican defectors in the Senate? Compare that to how often the Republicans vote monolithically with more Dem defectors than holders.
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    Fact of the matter is, Republicans have and usually will vote as a solid bloc with only maybe 3 exceptions at any one time. Dems, meanwhile, splinter enough that anything Republicans do, for the most part, gets labeled as ‘bipartisan’

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    Compare that to how often the Republicans vote monolithically…
    .
    Self selection in action. The sort who are used to taking orders and marching in lockstep are the sort likely to identify as Republicans in the first place….

  • pafro

    queencersei, there are two sides to the Republicans fundraising off of “60″. Everytime we gave Harry “punch drunk” Reid crap for failing to do anything, he would whine that he needed 60 Democrats, so we should get him 60. Dems fundraised off of that. Well, we did get 60. And now Reid is saying “it’s not a real 60.”[http://www.lvrj.com/news/49591827.html]
    I sick of hearing excuses for do-nothingism. All we are asking for is a couple real bona fide filibusters, and not the “gentleman” crap. We are not dealing with gentlemen; we are dealing with young Earth creationists like Imhofe and racists like Jeffrey Beauregard Sessions III.

  • queencersei

    No arguments from me pafro. It would be nice if the MSM would point that out occasionally though.

  • afguy

    The sort who are used to taking orders and marching in lockstep are the sort likely to identify as Republicans in the first place….
    .
    I think this is why my Korean ex-relatives are so passionately Republican. Very sweet people but they mostly grew up under Park Chung Hee, a “strong-man” style President (dictator). They grew up under an almost constant war environment unti he was killed by his own bodyguards.
    .
    Being minorities, you’d think they would be more Dem but they’re not and tend to attend a LOT of very very conservative religious colleges. I think that some of them just don’t want to think about the foibles of some of their standard-bearers.

  • gyrfalcon7

    Bernie Sanders? Bernie Sanders? You have Bernie Sanders in with the absent Kennedy and Byrd and the obstructionist Lieberman why exactly?

    Do you have any idea at all what you’re talking about?

  • juniusredivivus

    The Republican tendency to vote in lockstep is easily explained: they really aren’t very diverse, and don’t hail from very diverse districts at Senate level. Similarly, they just don’t have a diverse set of opinions/concerns. That’s one small bonus from seeing your numbers trimmed down steadily as Democrats have run the GOP out of the North East, with the exception of Snowe and Collins. Basically, as the GOP shrinks in on itself, the core of their party becomes harder, crazier and more partisan. I don’t think McConnell has much to do with it. The guy has the charisma of a lump of dough, combined with the intellect of a very small bagel. He hasn’t looked like coming up with a strategy to reverse the GOP decline – and 2010 may well get the Dems to 63 seats in the Senate. If we could only dump the Bayh/Nelson/Lieberman rabble, life would be sweet. Unfortunately, these days, we have an unelected third party – the Blue Dogs, who are zealously committed to self-promoting mediocrity. If there were a way to get the real Democrats to force the Blue Dogs to cooperate, it would be nice, but no-one has yet found a good way to punish their chronic dishonesty and selfishness. In essence, the Dems gained ground by being more diverse – but after a certain point, the ground gained wasn’t worth having.

  • ohiolib

    Maybe this will convince Reid to get off his rear and actually do something. Or maybe I’m being optimistic.

  • bobcn1

    pafro wrote: ‘Everytime we gave Harry “punch drunk” Reid crap for failing to do anything, he would whine that he needed 60 Democrats, so we should get him 60. Dems fundraised off of that. Well, we did get 60. And now Reid is saying “it’s not a real 60′
    .
    I’m so sick of hearing excuses for inaction and capitulation. I’d rather see the dems go down in a principled fight than watch them continue to offer ‘bipartisan’ compromises that gain them nothing but watered-down legislation that’s doomed to fail. The only aggressiveness seems to be on the side of the gopers and the goper-lite blue dogs. Even Obama has been slow to join the fight.

  • J C

    Tim Johnson of North Dakota on sick leave after a brain hemorrhage
    .
    Unless there are now two Senator Tim Johnsons, you speak of South Dakota’s senator.

  • bobcn1

    afguy wrote: ‘I think this is why my Korean ex-relatives are so passionately Republican. Very sweet people but they mostly grew up under Park Chung Hee, a “strong-man” style President (dictator). They grew up under an almost constant war environment unti he was killed by his own bodyguards.’
    .
    Excuse me for drifting off topic for a moment. I also have Korean in-laws. My experience with them is that their not a monolithic group at all. I’ve met some that are very right-wing, as you describe. But my in-laws were participants in the student demonstrations against Park Chung Hee. They were tear-gassed and several wear scars from run-ins with the soldiers that attacked the demonstrators. They are now all naturalized American citizens, liberal, and very passionate about democracy and civil liberty.

  • gysgt213

    JNS-What are the rules in the states with the Senators who may go at any moment? Do they have demo govs and do those govs have special appointment authority or is a special election required?

  • http://teacherreaderwriter.wordpress.com/ Shakespeare in GA

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    Should Byrd’s seat become vacant before his term ends in 2012, that would create the first non-incumbent Senate race in West Virginia since 1984 when Jay Rockefeller, a Democrat, won his seat. Democratic Gov. Joe Manchin would appoint a replacement to serve until a special election is held.

    .
    And HuffPo has the following on Kennedy:
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    Unlike most states, Kennedy’s successor would be chosen by a special election, not the governor.
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    State law requires a special election for the seat no sooner than 145 days and no later than 160 days after a vacancy occurs. The law bans an interim appointee.
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    The law was changed in 2004, when Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry became the Democratic presidential nominee and Romney was governor. Before the change, the governor would have appointed a replacement to serve until the next general election.
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    That would have created the opportunity to install a fellow Republican in office, a move Democrats who control the state Legislature wanted to block.

  • http://teacherreaderwriter.wordpress.com/ Shakespeare in GA
  • gysgt213

    Thanks Shakespeare. But, I still curious of why JNS did not include what you reported in her post. I’m sure you didn’t know this info off the top of your head and instead did the research she should have done to give a complete picture. Am I asking for too much?

  • rhys6blue

    The aging of our senate is troubling to me. The average age of US senators is 62. I believe this is the oldest average ever. One quarter of the senate is 70 or older. I think this is one reason why so little is getting done there. As JSN points out many of these older senators have serious health problems keeping them from their duties. With gerimandering, earmarks and other perks of sitting senators it’s almost impossible to unseat these older members. It’s definitely time for some of them to retire and make room for the next generation who will have more energy to tackle today’s problems and issues.

  • afguy

    They were tear-gassed and several wear scars from run-ins with the soldiers that attacked the demonstrators. They are now all naturalized American citizens, liberal, and very passionate about democracy and civil liberty.
    .
    Yep, I remember those too. They would be the others that demonstrated for change. Mine were always very quiet during that time and I got the idea they just wished that all of the trouble a that time would go away.
    .
    I did not mean to imply that the Koreans were by any means monolithic in their thinking. I’m thinking it had somewhat to do with location as much as anything. Mine were from Suwon, not Seoul. The mother grew up during the war and remembered the American soldiers and the constant struggle to keep warm during the winter.
    .
    Oldest son was a Baptist preacher who attended a very conservative college here. The other, younger ones followed in his footsteps. All were very religious.
    .
    I think I would say that, whatever they believed, they did so passionately, without a lot of cynicism or hypocrisy, and I can carry on a discussion about their beliefs with them a lot easier than I can discuss politics with a typical American. Sarcasm or vitriol are not part of the process.

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