Jenny Sanford Speaks (And More)

…Because we live to pore over the personal tragedies of others.

If only they didn’t allow gay marriage in some jurisdictions. Maybe the Sanford marriage would be on stronger ground.

Which makes her original public statement that her husband “needed time away from the kids to do some writing” so strange. I believe she is savvy enough to know that many people would pick up on that. Especially given it was Father’s Day weekend.

Christmas on a stick, Michael me lad!
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An’ th’ rest o’ ye too!
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Enough wi’ th’ Sanford saga!
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Thar be NOTHIN’ else happenin’ in th’ world ri’ now???
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God bless me parrot I’ve ‘ad enough o’ this!
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YARR!

“th’ rest o’ ye” referrin’ t’ th’ “journalists” who be keepin on flailin’ this t’ death instead o’ answerin’ an’ followin’ up in their threads o’ greater import – those tha’ be havin’ ‘em…
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KT?
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Ye could’a been findin’ me them numbers from Sanders, ‘r startin tha’ in-depth health care reform player piece!
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Arrgh!

I’d rather see her divorce him than speak. I mean Hillary stayed with Bill, Larry Craig’s wife stayed with him, etc etc. Why do these women put up with this stuff?

Hmm … let’s see … No, still don’t care.

“he needed time away from the kids to do some writing”
I will not screw that ho’ anymo’.
I will not screw that ho’ anymo’.
I will not screw that ho’ anymo’.
I will not screw that ho’ anymo’.

@ Art: I think most Americans feel that way, but of course the media will ignore that and try to make constant noise over it. SIGH.

[...] for five months… but now – now that the secret is out — all of a sudden she’s quoting the Bible and saying Sparky Mark Sanford deserves a second chance. Psalm 127 states that sons are a gift from [...]

O what a thrill it gives me to witness the powerful laid low through their common moral failings. In my righteousness, I’m almost forgetful of my proletarian misery.

Art, I agreed with you, right up until sacredh did that last bit. Now I just want a whole lot more Sanford on Swampland, just to see what sacredh will write next.

I too vote for a fresh insurance thread….

Oh COME ON can’t you guys PLEASE post something else?

just to see what sacredh will write next
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“Presentation is 90% of the enjoyment of the meal.”

Amy Sullivan starts a thread containing ‘And it was most definitely a relief to not see the scorned wife by his side.’
Which, of course, is soon followed by Scherer starting a thread titled Jenny Sanford Speaks
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To both of you: I don’t care! I don’t want to know the dirty details. The only issue here that concerns me is that the governor of a state abandoned his job. That may be OK for some pampered prima donnas, but in the real world abandoning your job normally gets you fired.

No one could possibly be anymore surprised by the things I post than me. You really shouldn’t encourage me.

I will pass on reading the emails. The guy has been exposed as a hypocrite with his support and defense of Marriage. Now lets put that aside and deal with the real issues here in that he let the people of SC down by leaving them without an executive in charge and was not responsible enough to put someone in charge in his absence. He should resign as governor because of that and that alone. Not because he had an affair.

All in favor of hijacking the thread and turning it into a health insurance thread say ‘Aye’! At least we can get in some discussion of health care options before spob gets here and converts it into a thread about him.
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I’ll start. If you haven’t seen Robert Reich’s post on TPM, you owe it to yourself to go read it (Why the critics of the public option are wrong).

Does this mean Sanford won’t be headlining the “value” voters summit this year?

At the risk of being declared righteous … re: my scathing contempt for the 3 Swamp-bots participating in this feeding frenzy (KT, AS, MS), will anyone else in here not registered as a republican take a vow with me? Boycott, strike–no more posts on titillating subjects. Let the above trio see how demeaning it is to engage merely with Spob & co.
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B/C until we disprove her apparently true statement: “nah. the substantive stuff never gets nearly as many comments as this kind of post does” it will not stop.

posts = comments

Re: the e-mails.
OK – this is now officially creepy. Please make it stop.

Was he the one having an affair with Kate? Or, more newsworthy, was he having the affair with Jon? Either way I think Oprah and Larry King have it scooped. Time should really get its act together and find out what the “eight” have to say… they do talk by now, yes?
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Uh, Michael, you’re the “White House Correspondent for Time”. I don’t see the connection.

I’m ready to sign the confession. I’m hillbilly white trash. I read the emails and laughed so hard my back hurt. I’ll appeal to my higher self, but I know he won’t listen. He loves this sh!t. I’m truly almost sorry.

Here’s some news:
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The people have spoken, and the people are sick and tired of “Speidi.” After an overwhelming viewer vote, E! has announced it will ban “The Hills” villains Spencer Pratt and Heidi Montag-Pratt from the network.
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For now.
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An estimated 94% of those who responded to an E! poll said they were tired of seeing the couple’s “self-promoting press” and wanted the network to stop talking about them. Network officials say they’ll no longer cover “the misadventures of Speidi until the pair does something truly newsworthy.”
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“If her album went to No. 1, that would be a newsworthy thing. If they were to become parents, we’d see that as worth noting. If something did happen to them, physically, we’d probably cover that.
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http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv/2009/06/24/2009-06-24_speidi_banned_from_e_as_network_wont_show_spencer_pratt_heidi_montag.html#ixzz0JOJTjQNz&D

jcapan: I don’t think they’d care. They probably get paid the same regardless.
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At this point, I have to confess, a little. I read the e-mails and was shocked. Not by their content – though they sound a little mushy for my tastes – though definitely a little that The State would stoop to that level; I wouldn’t have read them if they hadn’t been posted, and I’d have been fine. I’m primarily stunned by the similarity to a situation of mine.
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I’ve been married for almost 25 years and I care deeply for my wife. But I, too, have a “thing” for another woman. It’s not something I wanted or asked for – it just is. “We do not choose love; love chooses us.” I haven’t strayed, physically, but for a spouse, that’s of little consequence. The damage has already been done.
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So, whatever else he may be, he’s still a man, prone to feelings – and, frankly, what good is life without feeling, passion, emotion? – and he’ll get sympathy from me for his current plight. If I could just erase this other woman out of my mind, I most certainly would, and I’d almost bet he’d like to do the same.
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Oh, and it’s not KT…

I find it really disturbing the State would publish private emails that have no business being printed now that Sanford has admited to having an affair. It goes to far and crosses the line IMO. What does this do but make public his thoughts, he’s made the facts clear and they’re dragging a private woman on another continent into this even furthur by publishing her emails too.

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This is just wrong.

G.O.P is not wasting anytime first by accepting his resignation of the GOP Gov’s and handing it to Haily Barber in the blink of an eye and now Sanford has been uninvited from the much lauded “Values Voter Summit” known for being “champions of marriage and family”. Shave and a haircut… Two bits!!
http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2009/06/sanford-nixed-values-voter-summit

bobcn, cliff an’ PD –
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Le’s be gettin’ outa here an’ meet back a’ th’ public option poll thread an’ hihack tha’ one – a’ least it be somewhere near th’ buoy!
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We can be startin’ wi’ th’ Reich piece.
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Sorry, sacred, I be lovin’ wha’ ye be postin’ ‘ere, bu’ I be sick o’ “Sanford an’ Sin.”
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Avast, me heaties! Anchors Aweigh!
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Arrgh!

hillbilly white trash *and* a higher self? Now you’re just flirting with me, sacredh.
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Tell me you’re a Gemini, and I’ll fly out to Appalachia to meet you for a long drive on the coastline.
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To Mr. Nice Guy … I don’t want to belittle your major personal-share here. I think we can all relate to the powers of unexpected love. At least I hope we can. Then again, I don’t see any reason not to rub Sanford’s priggish followers’ noses in the fact that he was an unbelievable hypocrite in his dealings with — and statements about — others who had similar life/love crises, do you?

incandenzah: Of course I’m a Gemini. The 19th. I’m also deeply in love with my mrs. Her birthday is today.

incandenzah: no, by all means, fire away. I’m for bashing hypocrites as much as the next guy. I just feel for his struggle in trying to get over his feelings. It’s tough.
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Oh, and don’t tempt sacred: he’s married, too. Unless you’re pulling a “Marie from Argentina”. On the other hand, marriage is reportedly “A man, a woman, and a mistress.” I don’t know how he’s fixed for mistresses.

“I’m also deeply in love with my mrs. Her birthday is today.”
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Yeah. I don’t think that is a valid excuse any more.

I’m curious. I’ve only been on Swampland for nine months. What happens during the dog days of August when congress isn’t in session? Do things die down or get a little crazy?

LOL. Believe it or not, I’m 100% committed. I’m with her until the end. We even plan on dying within minutes of each other. Murder-suicide.

the State had these e-mails proving Sanford was an adulterer for a year? And they let him run around and tell everyone that “teh gays” were going to ruin the sanctity of marriage?
That’s some journalism for ya. Do you suppose a few people at the State are gunning for Froomkin;s old job?

Sure you won’t change your mind sacredh.
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MS, you should not have linked to them. And you probably know it.
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So… publishing private emails that have absolutely no relevance to anyone but the parties directly involved is fine. But a government health care option is basically class warfare because it would hurt the insurance companies. And hurting the insurance companies would be bad because that would damage private competition. So the only way to preserve competition is to prevent competition in the form of a government health insurance option that would give people better health care for less money.
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I will never understand MSM morality.
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jcapan, I vote for hijacking the thread. Were you able to find anything else on the SCO? I did see some US mainstream reactions from a few years ago which were interesting in their predictions about how much a non-factor it was going to be.

ASHINGTON – The FBI has arrested one of the nation’s most provocative white supremacists, the host of an Internet talk show and Web site, for saying that three federal judges should be killed.
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Hal Turner, 47, was arrested Wednesday at his home in North Bergen, N.J., and accused of posting statements on his Web site calling for the murder of three federal appeals court judges in Chicago who recently ruled on a gun rights case.
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“Let me be the first to say this plainly: these Judges deserve to be killed.” He included their pictures, phone numbers, work address and room numbers along with a photo of the courthouse in which they work and a map of its location, the FBI says.
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31532924/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/

Slow news day, eh?
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There really is a bit more happening out in the world than health-care debate and partisan mud-slinging…

pirate wench – I do be meetin’ ye down thar, though health-care be not my strong suit. Arrr!

neo, so go read about it and leave us to our titillation…

I’m with Oregon JC.
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will anyone else in here not registered as a republican take a vow with me? Boycott, strike–no more posts on titillating subjects.
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I’m not participating in threads attached to posts like these; it’s demeaning.

Stu-I am so sorry you took my “Speidi” post at 26 so hard.

I’ll just have to ogle you, sacredh, from afar, then. And rest unrequited in the wise Friar’s truism: “Presentation is 90% of the enjoyment of the meal.”
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And a big Happy Birthday to the suicidal-murderess Missus, to be sure!

jcapan an’ rose, come on o’er t’ th’ last health care thread – we can be talkin’ ’bout anythin’ ‘cept THIS! Sev’ral o’ us already abandoned this ship!
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sacred – see ye, an’ HB t’ th’ missus!
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Arrgh!

Nice Guy-
I’m not bashing your discussion. I’m bashing Time’s selective process of ‘post-worthy’ topics.
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Iran.
Health-care.
Congressional scandals.
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There’s a bit more that we could be talking about, but until a thread arises on such a topic anyone attempting to expand the discourse will be labeled a ‘troll.’

an’ gunny thanks fer th’ boys o’ summer! One o’ me favorites!
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Arrgh!

incandenzah: Thanks for the birthday wishes. Sorry I took so long to get back but I took the dogs out and they chased a couple of deer about a third of a mile out back down to the woods. I injured my back a little while ago and had to chase them down on the lawn tractor. I told you I was hillbilly white trash. Kind of. My neighbors are worse. Parsonage.

NR86 – I’m in favor of giving you a pass this time, on account of the limited selection of topics lately. (And really, there’s no loss to this thread if it’s diverted.)
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What’s buzzing around in your bonnet?

The masses need their bread and circuses, neo. Sorry for the unwarranted snark.
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stu: with your participatory non-participation, are you playing the role of “Shroedinger’s Cat”?
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Time to do something substantive. I’m off to swim 2000 yards. PW, I appoint you commander of the support dinghy.

Am I alive or am I dead? I be a zombie. I refuse to choose.

Cliff et al those pushing for a new topic, I have a pretty good set of blog clippings of health insurance related posts over at Health Care: Bipartisanship???? Edition if you are looking for Swampland thread hijacking fodder.
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For those reveling in Sanford, the emails are really pretty poetic. Rather $ucks that they weren’t written to his wife.

Well, for starters, its less than a week until US forces begin withdrawing from all Iraqi cities and towns, remaining in military bases until September 2010. What will the effect of this be on violence levels? What, at this point, can we hope to accomplish militarily operating solely out of bases? Essentially, we will be on stand-by for the next year, but to what avail?

“two weeks ago, long before his visit to Argentina”

I know that a week is a long time in politics, but two weeks hardly allows much time for a fling in Argentina, followed by some nefarious activity in Atlanta. The real interest in this story is going to emerge when we discover what Sanford is hiding behind this strategic disclosure.

Who?

No live blogging of Obamascam?

Hula, these days we are pretty tied up with reality, not your crude fictions, but thank you for trying to troll the thread.

Sanford is ready to embark on his next career as a writer of erotica.
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This has turned out to be an AWESOME day. Another preening hypocrite bites the dust. The sooner we expose all of these people for the monsters that they are the better.
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BTW, I’m listening to Dan Rather tell Chris Matthews that we should think of Sanford’s family right now. Screw that. What about the families of all of those people in South Carolina that Sanford’s policies have ruined. Where are Dan Rather’s tears for them?

I wonder what the white-people first crowd in the GOP think about Sanford gettin’ it on with a Latina? And if she is a porteno then that probably means she doesn’t go to church at all since the residents of Buenos Aires mostly swore of Catholicism after the Church conspired with the military to dump Peron. So Sanford dumped his God-fearing wife, and mother of his 4 boys, for a God-less Latina. It just doesn’t get any better than this.
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We should ask him if he agrees with Sotomayor about Latina women being wise . . . and hot!
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I blame all of this on the people in Iowa, Vermont, Massachusetts, etc. that let gay people get married. Clearly the GOP was right. Letting gay people get married DID rock the foundations of marriage. If we let any more gay people get married then all of us heterosexual white guys are going to end up with Argentinean girlfriends named Maria . . . wait, is that bad?
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When I was in Argentina last year I had some great pieces of meat. But Sanford seems to have taken it a bit further than I did, if you know what I mean. Then again, I’m a liberal so I took my wife to Buenos Aires. Silly me.
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Oh Maria, light of my life, lifter of my loins, I love you more than words can say. You’ve made my day.
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Choska

Well, perhaps it all comes down to:

“How do you solve a problem like Maria?”. After all she was definitely one of Sanford’s “Favorite Things”.

Hula, these days we are pretty tied up with reality, not your crude fictions, but thank you for trying to troll the thread.
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I can haz betr trollz plz?

BTW, I’m listening to Dan Rather tell Chris Matthews that we should think of Sanford’s family right now. Screw that. What about the families of all of those people in South Carolina that Sanford’s policies have ruined. Where are Dan Rather’s tears for them?
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One would think, after his massive screwing over by Republican hands, he would be a bit more gleeful to see another Republican hypocrite bite the dust. Alas, it seems that IOKIYAR goes deeper than I imagined.

@junius, “How do you solve a problem like Maria?” THAT is hilarious.

Well, for starters, its less than a week until US forces begin withdrawing from all Iraqi cities and towns, remaining in military bases until September 2010. What will the effect of this be on violence levels? What, at this point, can we hope to accomplish militarily operating solely out of bases? Essentially, we will be on stand-by for the next year, but to what avail?
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Then we stay out of it. Six years of mucking around in their country and their affairs is more than enough. The good we are causing is debatable and the expense to our treasury and our military is killing us. This cannot and should not turn into a permanent occupation situation, we need to just get out and focus on matters closer to home. If this is the beginning of the end of Bush’s war of convenience, I say praise Allah and let’s ALL come home.

From Tapped
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“At the web site of the Palmetto Family Council, the South Carolina arm of Focus on the Family, is an undated recording of an interview Governor Mark Sanford did on families and fatherhood. He serves up the usual platitudes about families being the bedrock of society, and then launches into the particular responsibilities of fathers.

To wit (or witless): When asked about the best way to keep families strong, Sanford advised spending more time with one’s family (ahem) and praying together. “I don’t want to be old-fashioned here,” he added, “but I think the father has the responsibility of being the spiritual leader of the house, and there are some lessons on a daily, nightly, morning basis that need to go from the father to the little ones in talking about how shall we then live. And I think that particular responsibility is on the backs of fathers.”
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Responsibility on the backs of fathers, or taking lessons in how make the beast with two backs from your father.

@junius, “How do you solve a problem like Maria?” THAT is hilarious.
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Oddly enough that was a reality show on CBC (Canadian TV) last year. For some reason THAT popped into my head first. I occasionally wonder if my ancestors left the Great White North too hastily.

“BTW, I’m listening to Dan Rather tell Chris Matthews that we should think of Sanford’s family right now. Screw that. What about the families of all of those people in South Carolina that Sanford’s policies have ruined. Where are Dan Rather’s tears for them?
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“One would think, after his massive screwing over by Republican hands, he would be a bit more gleeful to see another Republican hypocrite bite the dust. Alas, it seems that IOKIYAR goes deeper than I imagined.
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Guys, you cannot whine about IOKIYAAR when you have Ted Kennedy, Jack Murtha, Gerry Studds, John Conyers, Charlie Rangel et alia. Our guys didn’t leave a young woman trapped in a car to die. And last I checked, Janklow did some time.
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And as for hypocrisy, other than Haggart, it’s tough to imagine more hypocrisy than Michelle yapping about how some people have to give up theirs when she acted pretty strong to preserve her employer’s bottom line, or Barack’s preening about the earth starting to cool and the oceans slowing their rise when he jacks up the heat in the white house to 75 degrees. And then there’s Al Gore.

You know what? I actually bothered to write a rather pithy response to Spob then I realized that’s exactly what he wants. He just wants to prove he’s bigger and better than the radical libs (and all libs are radical to him) so it’s better to just bury him as background noise and move on.
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Oh I will say one thing: Spob if you’re really a member of the bar then re-open the Chappaquiddick case and get Ted Kennedy prosecuted. Put up or shut up counselor.

Health insurers have forced consumers to pay billions of dollars in medical bills that the insurers themselves should have paid, according to a report released yesterday by the staff of the Senate Commerce Committee.
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The report was part of a multi-pronged assault on the credibility of private insurers by Commerce Committee Chairman John D. Rockefeller IV (D-W.Va.). It came at a time when Rockefeller, President Obama and others are seeking to offer a public alternative to private health plans as part of broad health-care reform legislation. Health insurers are doing everything they can to block the public option.
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At a committee hearing yesterday, three health-care specialists testified that insurers go to great lengths to avoid responsibility for sick people, use deliberately incomprehensible documents to mislead consumers about their benefits, and sell “junk” policies that do not cover needed care. Rockefeller said he was exploring “why consumers get such a raw deal from their insurance companies.”
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The star witness at the hearing was a former public relations executive for major health insurers whose testimony boiled down to this: Don’t trust the insurers.
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“The industry and its backers are using fear tactics, as they did in 1994, to tar a transparent and accountable — publicly accountable — health-care option,” said Wendell Potter, who until early last year was vice president for corporate communications at the big insurer Cigna.
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Health insurers have forced consumers to pay billions of dollars in medical bills that the insurers themselves should have paid, according to a report released yesterday by the staff of the Senate Commerce Committee.

The report was part of a multi-pronged assault on the credibility of private insurers by Commerce Committee Chairman John D. Rockefeller IV (D-W.Va.). It came at a time when Rockefeller, President Obama and others are seeking to offer a public alternative to private health plans as part of broad health-care reform legislation. Health insurers are doing everything they can to block the public option.

At a committee hearing yesterday, three health-care specialists testified that insurers go to great lengths to avoid responsibility for sick people, use deliberately incomprehensible documents to mislead consumers about their benefits, and sell “junk” policies that do not cover needed care. Rockefeller said he was exploring “why consumers get such a raw deal from their insurance companies.”

The star witness at the hearing was a former public relations executive for major health insurers whose testimony boiled down to this: Don’t trust the insurers.

“The industry and its backers are using fear tactics, as they did in 1994, to tar a transparent and accountable — publicly accountable — health-care option,” said Wendell Potter, who until early last year was vice president for corporate communications at the big insurer Cigna.
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http://tinyurl.com/ln843b

Gunny –
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Informative post, matey!
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Too bad thar’ were no current health care discussion t’ put it in – if I hadn’a come ‘ere looking t’ see if sacred ‘d posted anythin’ entertainin’ t’ start me day, I would o’ missed it!
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YARR!

pirate wench: The day is young. If you smell smoke, that’s just me thinking.

sacred –
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I’ll be on th’ lookout!
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If ye be needin’ an extinguisher, it be located for’ard, next t’ th’ gaff(e) riggin’!
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Arrgh!