More Nixon Tapes! More Nixon Tapes!

Regular readers of this space know that the Nixon tapes are regarded here in Swampland as the gift that keeps on giving. And while we haven’t yet had time to listen to any of the 154 hours that were released today, reporters who have are finding some gems. Such as this from NPR’s Nina Totenberg:

President Nixon reacted privately to the Supreme Court’s 1973 decision legalizing abortion by saying he believed some abortions were necessary, as in cases of rape or interracial mating.

And this exchange with the future Bush 41, as reported by CNN’s Elaine Quijano:

In February of 1973, President Nixon called future president and then-Republican National Committee chairman George H.W. Bush, and recounted a recent visit to the South Carolina state legislature.

“I noticed a couple of very attractive women, both of them Republicans, in the legislature,” Nixon told Bush. “I want you to be sure to emphasize to our people, God, let’s look for some… Understand, I don’t do it because I’m for women, but I’m doing it because I think maybe a woman might win someplace where a man might not… So have you got that in mind?”

Bush replies, “I’ll certainly keep it in mind.”

UPDATE: H/T Commenter sgwhite for this link to the NYT’s Charlie Savage’s report:

Nixon worried that greater access to abortions would foster “permissiveness,” and said that “it breaks the family.” But he also saw a need for abortion in some cases, such as interracial pregnancies.

“There are times when an abortion is necessary. I know that. When you have a black and a white,” he told an aide, before adding: “Or a rape.”

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  • Paul-no not that one

    “interracial mating”?

  • themaverickformerlyknownasbasilbrush

    NotthatPaul – I believe he foresaw Obama, the destroyer of the GOP. Nostradamus Nixon, eh?

  • jcapan

    “interracial mating” indeed–guess my wife and I should abort our unborn child.
    ~
    That said, another shiny object over there, over where, huh?

  • Karen Tumulty

    Wonder what he would think of the idea that the product of interracial mating would be sitting in his old office.

  • stuartzechman

    Let’s review depositions from the Lewinsky scandal grand juries.

  • themaverickformerlyknownasbasilbrush

    Karen, you definitely owe me a beer! 5:38 pm!

  • http://smoothlikeremy.blogspot.com/ sgwhiteinfla

    KT
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    You might want to include that whole quote on abortion so people can get the full context.
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    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/24/us/politics/24nixon.html?partner=rss&emc=rss
    .

    “There are times when an abortion is necessary. I know that. When you have a black and a white,” he told an aide, before adding: “Or a rape.”

  • apollyon07

    Putting “interracial mating” in the same ballpark as rape? What a racist POS.

  • gysgt213

    Is that what the kids were calling it back then? Interracial mating. What a hoot!

  • Karen Tumulty

    Thanks, sg!

  • fourlegsgood

    Interracial “mating”???!!!!???
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    Holy moly.
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    Wonder what he would think of the idea that the product of interracial mating would be sitting in his old office.
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    I hope he’s sitting in h*ll, gnashing his teeth.

  • jarais

    I guess I should have been aborted. Oops.

  • queencersei

    An interracial child was the same thing in his mind as a child from the result of rape? Nice. No one could accuse him of being a compassionate conservative.

  • queencersei

    Understand, I don’t do it because I’m for women, but I’m doing it because I think maybe a woman might win someplace where a man might not… So have you got that in mind?”
    I think this mentality pretty much sums up the selection of Sarah Palin as a possible V.P. candidate.

  • Cliff

    “There are times when an abortion is necessary. I know that. When you have a black and a white,”
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    Holy sh*t.

  • lk312

    “Interracial mating”?????
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    Hmm, what is it about Republicans named Dick that I just don’t like?
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    I have 2 words for the late Prez that hopeully has him spinning in his rotting grave:
    :
    BARACK OBAMA :-D

  • lk312

    Oops, I meant, PRESIDENT Barack Obama!!!!!

  • lk312

    Jarais – glad neither you nor our current Prez were.

  • sacredh

    How times have changed. Clarence Thomas and Michael Steele. Nixon would be so proud of his party now. At least they’re smart enough to try to chase away a lightweight like Colin Powell.

  • pirate wench (demwoman)

    Ah, KT – th’ perfect distillin’ o’ th’ essence o’ th’ Republican Party!
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    Arrgh!

  • sacredh

    I miss Nixon. Not as much as I miss having crabs, but it’s in the ballpark.

  • pirate wench (demwoman)

    hey sacred –
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    I were writin’ a story in honor o’ yer prostate exam o’er in th’ talkin tougher thread, matey!
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    Ye survived, I be seein’…
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    Arrgh.

  • trifecta55

    I wonder if he had Kissinger pray with him over this one.

  • sacredh

    pirate wench: The visit was one for the books. It was a Magical Mystery Tour.

  • pirate wench (demwoman)

    sacred – I surely hope th’ drinkin’ were a help!
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    YaRR!

  • centfan

    Well, it’s not like the GOP hasn’t changed with the times and become more open minded. After all, Limbaugh must be a product of inter-species mating and look at the status he has.
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    Nixon is the only President I ever saw in person, although I think Reagan might have flown over me while I visited the Lincoln Memorial. What’s that? Yes, in a helicopter, not by his own power.

  • sacredh

    I’ll hit a few highlights in Amy’s thread. KT doesn’t deserve what’s coming in Amy’s thread. KT: Feel free to post a “1000 Words” for this blatant show of respect.

  • jcapan

    In Tricky Dick’s defense, it’s beyond absurd to think such racist/sexist thought was exclusively republican during that era. I know many union dems from my own family who are or at least were living proof.
    ~
    But per the discussion in another thread about “Oooh, look at the bad republican!” isn’t our discourse suffering from enough partisan shirt-vs-skin distractive sh!t w/out dredging up from 40 yrs. back, (however entertaining)? Or, KT, perhaps you’d have more than 4 comments on your HC post, if you weren’t clouding matters with all the fluff.

  • Karen Tumulty

    jcapan: nah. the substantive stuff never gets nearly as many comments as this kind of post does.

  • gysgt213

    “the substantive stuff never gets nearly as many comments as this kind of post does.”
    .
    Well duh! That stuff makes you think.

  • Karen Tumulty

    Gunny: Math is hard!

  • 53_3

    Well, hells bells!
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    How in pluperfect are my kids supposed to take this?
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    I know. They will take it just fine, and chalk it up to American history, but I can tell you, it sure doesn’t help the GOP.
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    Typical of them. More of the same…

  • 53_3

    lk312:
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    Thanks.
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    You just made it all worth it in the end. How could I have overlooked that?

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  • rose83

    I actually think these flashbacks, while amusing, are also good historical reminders. It’s important to remember that Obama was elected just 36 years after Nixon made these blatantly racist and sexist comments. I don’t mean that in a “aren’t we all wonderful now?” way. The important lesson is how fast the unimaginable can become beautifully prosaic.
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    It’s also important to remember that current racist and sexist rhetoric draws on a still very recent historical legacy of political oppression. We’re not so far removed from Nixon’s bigotry as to be complacent about, say, the racist coverage of Obama seen on Fox. And of course if we really had left all that behind then there wouldn’t be so much prejudice in the media and elsewhere.
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    But apparently I should have been aborted so I’m probably clueless.

  • sacredh

    Those were exciting days. The thread reminded me of an old comedy album I have. It’s David Frye’s, Richard Nixon: A Fantasy. It’s a take off on Watergate. Funny as hell and as mean spirited as you could ask for. I think I’ll burn it onto a cd. Thanks for the thread KT.

  • Mr. Nice Guy

    So he was a sexist, racist pig… What’s new with Repugs?

  • Mr. Nice Guy

    jcapan: it’s important to understand the background of the issue – to go back and analyze the origin of the infection – to properly fix the disease.

    KT: are you admitting that you’re playing us? Use and abuse me, eh? I kind of like that…

  • jcapan

    “jcapan: nah. the substantive stuff never gets nearly as many comments as this kind of post does.”
    ~
    Umm, fabulistic observation KT, but isn’t that akin to the H-wood exec saying well, hell, we’d love to make Dr. Zhivago or Blood Meridian, but since The Hangover is going to get more business, we should just give the people more of that? Is your wing of the media equally calculating? Art vs. entertainment or strict bottom-line decisionmaking, I can get it coming out of H-wood, but the 4th estate!?
    ~
    Also, I’m not that uptight. A blow-off post a day, fair enough. I love the 1000 words. And I laughed my arse of at the Hangover (like my memoirs come to life)! But 3 Sanford & son posts and counting!? We all know you do substantial, impassioned reporting, KT, and that of all the contributors here you should be able to insert some levity but I’m just asking for a little better ratio.
    ~
    You have a lot of power over how the debate is framed–surely you can admit that this pap is distractive, throwing chum into shark strewn partisan waters. B/C my students may prefer to read Rowling or King (i.e. not be challenged), that doesn’t mean I’m going to stop throwing Henry V or Faulkner in their faces. And I love/grew up reading King, but IMO it’d be professional malpractice to teach him in a college lit course.

  • Paul-no not that one

    “The thread reminded me of an old comedy album I have. It’s David Frye’s, Richard Nixon: A Fantasy.”
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    HHH Greatest Hits! Remember “I concede”? Where were you when you heard this one? “I concede” and Humphrey’s unforgettable ” I DO concede”
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    Great album.

  • FlownOver

    KT & sacred:

    Another source of contemporaneous comic relief, if you can find it: the National Lampoon Radio Hour’s Impeachment Day special. Highlights include Chevy Chase as a verbally flummoxed Sam Ervin, and a faux Billy Graham administering the official Swearing Out (“God damn you, Richard Nixon, get outta here!”)
    Best tasteless bit: a White House press office announcement of the President’s movements – “Monday: nothing. Tuesday: nothing. Wednesday: good one, some blood.”

  • Paul-no not that one

    Karen Tumulty Says:
    Tuesday, June 23, 2009 at 7:16 pm
    jcapan: nah. the substantive stuff never gets nearly as many comments as this kind of post does
    .
    I appreciate you insulting the rabble as much as the next guy but how many comments have there been in the health care threads? Collectively somewhere around 1500? More?

  • sacredh

    Pnnto: Billy Graham would have me on the floor every time I heard that album. The end where he tells Nixon to “F#@k off!” would reduce me to tears.
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    FlownOver: Billy Graham made an “appearance” on both albums. I see I’m not the only one with a National Lampoon collection. It’s right next to the Monty Python albums.
    .
    Flash Basbo, Space explorer.

  • yutsano

    I appreciate you insulting the rabble as much as the next guy but how many comments have there been in the health care threads? Collectively somewhere around 1500? More?
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    Good point P-NNTO, but two caveats:
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    1) One of the reasons why is because of Spob’s constant trollery.
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    2) A few of the other Obama threads have generated as much traffic. More or less for the same reasons but still worth making a note of.
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    Plus, it’s always fun to see KT woodshed one of us!

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