Radio and TV Correspondents Dinner

Our friends at C-SPAN were there last night, and bring us some highlights. They included Barack Obama telling the jokes that didn’t make the cut for the White House Correspondents Dinner. (It seems to cut off a bit before the end, so I’m trying to get the full one.)*:

And comedian John Hodgman tests whether the President is really a nerd:

*Link fixed, I think.

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  • Paul-no not that one

    Thanks for posting these-I thought Hodgman’s was pretty sweet.

  • kathy

    Speakers not working, alas, so I can’t hear Hodgman. Heard most of Obama last night. Funny bri wi joke, and Obama feeling like he’s on “I’m a celebrity get me out of here.” I find his joke-telling laughing at himself telling jokes is sort of endearing.

  • gysgt213

    Not to be a sour puss. But, I will any way. How many of these dinners are there a year? At what point does this begin to be unfunny? I am not against having fun at the expense of the President, Congress, celebrities and the media, but there is something about these kinds of dinners where different elements of power rub elbows that rubs me the wrong way.
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    It seriously bugs me. At this moment in time when so many people are actually losing jobs, homes and gay Americans fighting for their rights to be treated like everyone else. I actually know people who don’t have cable, the internet or any type of phone yet alone health care and the elite are partying like its 1999 and none of them are really on our side.
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    The President is failing us because he keeps announcing polices with no teeth and on some issues seems to be doing all he can to keep GWB and Cheney’s visions alive. The Democrats in Congress are failing us because when they are not attempting to snuggle up to their own corporate benefactors they spend their free time being afraid of making a republican mad and screwing the people that voted them in. Republicans are doing what republican do, being hypocrites, so no one expects a lot of them. The Supreme Court with their 5-4 batting average is handing down as many pro government and pro corporate decisions it can these days.
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    The print media tied their horses to the Bush legacy, performed daily spiritual pilgrimages to the Drudge report and now they do the same to Politico, buried their government watchdog role in the back yards of the corporate offices they can no longer afford, and now pray to the God of Access. The lessons from the minor gods of fake balance, he said she said and always always anonymity have been learned and enshrined. For all this the print media is unable to make a profit and is dying slow death. Yet they can’t for the life of them figure out why. So they blame it all them there nasty DFH bloggers stealing all their work. The print bosses stamp their feet and hire, promote and give space to even more people that were always wrong.
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    Radio is a lost cause. Rush makes $400 mil while his corporation fires secretaries. If Rush ain’t on not to worry you can always tune up and down the dial until you find Hannity.
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    Teevee is also a lost cause. Filled with ex government officials, fake experts and fake consultants. Shouting matches posing as interviews and fake feuds with other networks. Its a sad state.
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    I know there are exceptions to every thing I have said above. I know. And maybe they are on our side only hidden from the view of polite company.
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    I know I am probably in the minority on this and should just lighten up, but something just does not feel right.

  • Rorschach

    If only they the president and media had been working during those 2 hours on a Friday night! Everything would have been fixed, forever! Damn them… damn them to hell.
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    I bet those bastards actually slept a few hours in between then and this morning.

  • Paul-no not that one

    I guess this will be the weekend’s open thread so…
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    This might explain why there is so little Beltway enthusiasm for healthcare reform.
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    3. Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America: $6,910,000
    6. Pfizer, Inc: $6,140,000
    12. American Medical Association: $4,240,000
    18. American Hospital Association: $3,580,000
    19. Eli Lilly and Company: $3,440,000
    37. America’s Health Insurance Plans, Inc: $2,030,000
    39. CVS Caremark Inc: $2,005,000
    47. Blue Cross and Blue Shield Association: $1,800,000
    49. GlaxoSmithKline: $1,780,000
    63. Merck & Co: $1,500,000
    65. United Health Group, Inc: $1,500,000
    69. Sanofi-Aventis U.S. Inc: $1,460,000
    76. Novartis: $1,347,134
    87. Abbott Laboratories: $1,260,000
    89. Astrazeneca Pharmaceuticals, LP: $1,250,000
    92. Medtronic, Inc: $1,238,000
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    Those are the total lobbying dollars for those companies for the first THREE MONTHS of 2009
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  • Paul-no not that one

    oops-here is the link for those numbers.
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    http://www.lavidalocavore.org/diary/1937/why-american-policy-sucks

  • bitterpill8

    PNNTO: Thanks. This adds to what SZ posted a week ago. Almost all our pols are bought and paid for. Some in our elite media are no better: they have incomes that immunize them against crippling medical costs. Others in the media, as distinct from the “elite” know what is happening in the debate. They should publish as much as possible about the linkages that we have to work against.

    BTW: Daschle is saying he is not against the public health insurance option. Anyone picked up on that?

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    PNNTO:
    Not to be contrarian but isn’t that just a measure of how much money is at stake if their business model is suddenly declared illegal? Of course their going to throw huge sums of money at the problem. That’s what self-interested capitalist entities do when they’re threatened.

  • http://policingwingnutwelfare.blogspot.com/ JJ

    If I had to guess where Hodgman was from, I would have said Brookline.
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    Facial roundness like that can only come from eating too many Bagels in Coolidge Corner.

  • trifecta55

    I wonder if MSNBC would preempt plastic surgery and prison lock up videos on the week-end for any live news.

  • Paul-no not that one

    PD-which business model are you referring to? Suddenly declared illegal?
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    Note that these numbers are from Jan-Feb-Mar. Before there was much of a proposal, heck there isn’t much of one now in late June.
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    I agree with you that they feel threatened, but it is an all hands on deck defense of the status quo.
    I’ll give them this much- the conversation isn’t Universal Healthcare, it’s Universal Coverage. They aren’t the same.

  • gysgt213

    Glenzilla, Krugman, Sullivan and Jane Hamsher are all over Froomkin and the Post. Pointing things out that can only lose them “Access.” The spinning from those involved is getting pretty funny.
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    http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/
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    http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/06/19/the-froomkin-firing/
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    http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/06/the-purging-of-froomkin-ctd.html
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    http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/06/19/froomkin-v-washington-post-the-battle-continues/

  • Paul-no not that one

    gunny, I look forward to Howie Kurtz’s online chat Monday. He has three days to make it seem like no big deal.

  • Dee in Columbia MD

    Okay by all means let’s join Bill Maher and make it all Obama’s fault for only proposing measures that he can actually get through Congress. We will all feel so much better if he uses his political clout to tilt at windmills. It’s much better to get defeated fighting for pipe dreams than actually win something that does more good than harm.
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    Let’s face it this situation exists because Americans are too dam selfish to switch the television from the bachelor to c-span’s coverage of how we’re being screwed by the telecoms again. If we don’t demand more from Congress, it doesn’t matter who is in the white house. You want a public option than take a cue from the Iranians and hit the streets. We can actually use Twitter too.

  • Dee in Columbia MD

    Oh by the way, by selfish I mean focused solely on self as opposed to the impact of things on the community. Please don’t assume I mean selfish in the commonly used pejoritive sense, although Americans can clearly be that as well.

  • somepeoplelikeit

    Dee, I have been a huge defender of Obama here and I still am. But this is exactly where he is supposed to use his clout. In every poll you can find, across every demographic, a public option is very popular with the American people. He won the effin election! He needs to stop trying to be bipartisan and rule like winners rule.
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    He needs to tell congress, “the people voted me in to make changes and the people want a public option, anything less is a waste of time.”
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    What domestic issue would be better to use his clout on?

  • carotexas1

    Might be some hope yet.
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    Big PhRMA has worked out a deal with Baucus and Nancy-Ann DeParle to close the gap in Medicare part D. Saving 80 billion over ten years.
    This gap should have not ever been there in the first place in my opinion.
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    This is the only link I could find.
    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0609/23958.html

  • Dee in Columbia MD

    Yes, and I believe he has told Congress exactly that. But guess what Congress doesn’t fear polls this far out from the election as much as they fear voters reactions to potential GOP attack ads. The only way Congress is going to provide a public option is if the people make it clear with calls, letters, emails, texts and tweets and not just the activist cohort, that nothing less will be tolerated. The folks in South Carolina and Nebraska need demand this from conservative Democrats too.
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    And the windmills referred to economic reforms.

  • rose83

    Not to be contrarian but isn’t that just a measure of how much money is at stake if their business model is suddenly declared illegal? Of course their going to throw huge sums of money at the problem. That’s what self-interested capitalist entities do when they’re threatened.
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    Paul Dirks, but Congress doesn’t have to take the money, and they don’t have to do what the health insurance lobby wants.
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    Signing off now…

  • gysgt213

    Dee-Did you see Bill Maher’s follow up from last week? Seriously, you need to catch it if you didn’t. He’s most certainly not implying that its all Obama’s fault. Far from it. He is speaking about where the problems actually lie.
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  • Cliff

    PD – you’re correct, there’s no reason to expect big stakeholding companies to act in any other way. But those numbers still tell us something, and it’s not something I see KT or the others make a lot of mention here – where the influence is coming from, and how much of it.

  • Dee in Columbia MD

    Yes, I saw it live, but I feel safe to bet my much diminished personal wealth that this clip won’t end up being used by the msnbc echo chamber in the same way as they used his earlier statement to beat Obama over the head. The truth is that the real power always rested with Congress, it’s just that Bush never had any opposition from his people. Obama can’t make that claim. Frankly he’s doing a good job herding cats.

  • FlownOver

    Dee:

    On the other hand, herding senate weasels (I’m looking at you, Max Baucus!) on health care may be more problematic

  • http://policingwingnutwelfare.blogspot.com/ JJ

    A good reality TV show might be what goes on in Fred Hiatt’s brain. I would pay to see that.

    (Although it would probably be painful to watch.)

  • Dee in Columbia MD

    Flown over — exactly. I’m going from memory so I could be off a point or two, but in 2000 and 2004 the GOP won Montana by a 17-20 point advantage. However in 2008 the won by only a 2 point margin. An awful lot of so-called conservatives voted for the Obama health care plan that had a public option. In fact their uncertainty about guns was the only reason Obama didn’t win the state. I suggest that if Baucus supporters were to make it clear to him that they want a public option we’d get one, the same goes for Ben Nelson and Evan Bayh. I think it’s time for a serous public square demonstration for health care, where millions of voters across the country let there voices be heard and not co-opted by the spin doctors and commentators. I sat tweet their behinds back to reality.

  • formerlyjames

    What others have said, and what gunny has said best. There is something very discomforting about this latest nudge, nudge, ha, ha, ain’t everything funny routine. If it had been the first, it would be a knock out of the ball park. It’s not. It is getting old and stale.

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    I guess there are two separate points I’m attempting to make.
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    One is simply this: The whole theory behind free-market Capitalism is that it harnesses individual self-interest in a way that ends up spreading benefits widely. As I’ve often said, some things it’s good at accomplishing, other things, not so much. But whatever solution we propose to whatever problem we perceive has to take in account the fact that individual self interest isn’t going to go away and that any solution that doesn’t take it into account is doomed to failure.
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    The other point is that a lot of political arguments are based on others being ‘undeserving’. Spob made clear several threads ago that his arguments against any Health-care reform was based on the notion that some undeserving poor person who brought it upon himself might nevertheless get some health-care on the public dime, therefore costing spob personally. In his worldview, poor people are morally suspect freeeloaders.
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    But you folks who are arguing over how evil Insurance companies and lobbyists are are applying the same kind of thinking. By assuming that powerful people are powerful by virtue of their gaming the system, you blind yourself to their worldview which only suggests that they are delivering a valuable service at a fair price and bemoaning people who want something for nothing.
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    There’s nothing inherently evil about being poor and there’s nothing inherently evil about being rich. Only when we get past the stereotypes and ask ourselves how we can design a sytem wherein individual self-interest nevertheless results in widespread benefit then we will be dealing with the Health-care crisis rationally.

  • stuartzechman

    Dirks:
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    I’m going to carefully consider your points.

  • Paul-no not that one

    “But you folks who are arguing over how evil Insurance companies and lobbyists are are applying the same kind of thinking”
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    I haven’t seen people applying motive “evil” just stating the uncontroversial point of the industry push back. I only listed the dollars because as jaded as I think I am I was still stunned by the amount.

  • formerlyjames

    PD, I am late, and probably misinformed, but self-serving capitalism is not a problem to me. Self-serving thieves are the bane of capitalism. There has been not problem with people making honest profit. The problem has been fraud. Fraud belongs to all economic models, including socialist and communist ones.

  • sacredh

    “as jaded as I think I am”
    Welcome to the club. Just when you think you’re so cynical and jaded that you can’t be surprised anymore, they raise the bar. The healthcare industry is a cash cow. A huge cash cow. This is only the beginning. If it looks like we truly are going to at least try a single payer system even on a limited basis, the people raking in the cash are going to need trucks to haul it away. They don’t want to see their profit margin shrink by even a single percent. The elected officals who haven’t been bought and paid for already are going to be getting some eye-popping offers. Take it to the bank.

  • Cliff

    If we were talking about TVs or toilet paper or video games, I would agree with you more, PD. But we are talking about people who make (to my knowledge) an immense amount of profit off of a system that encourages the denial of care to sick and dying people.
    And they are pushing back against any reform effort, not because they will lose money but because they will make slightly less money.
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    Yes, the financial interests of these companies drive them to act like this. And I am allowed to feel disgusted at their efforts, and the fact that their dollars count for more than our votes.

  • Dee in Columbia MD

    Dirks, if I understand you correctly you are pointing out the fundamental difference between conservative philosophy which is based on a belief that a human beings worth is determined by what they produce or what they do and the liberal philosophy which determines a human beings worth based on the fact that they are human beings or shorter version based on who they are.
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    Which is why we got the spob spiel about not wanting to pay for health care for criminals or even more broadly seen on cable – PJ O’Rourke announcing his objection to reform is not wanting his payment for fixing his tennis elbow to pay for fixing a 9 millimeter gun wound in an innercity hospital.
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    Of course, it’s funny how he didn’t feel the need to distinguish between a gunshot wound of a police officer or an innocent bystander and the supposedly undeserving criminal. It was not even questioned by the host. It was taken as a given and followed up by a direct objection to giving the holocaust museum shooter access to pain killers in the hospital. They also make no allowances for the innocent who were wrongly convicted or not yet adjudicated. I think this is what a lynch mob looks like in the 21st century.
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    This is how you get the model for the deserving and undeserving poor. In pollster speak speak the poor = undeserving and the working poor = deserving because the work has value.
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    Because it has been generally accepted that most Americans receive health care through employers, those who do not have health care are assumed to be unemployed therefore undeserving. Hence the public option becomes synonymous with welfare (another government administered single payer system) rather than an instrument of reform. Obviously, it doesn’t matter that it’s not true, because there is no shortage of stupidity in the American electorate or congress.

  • sacredh

    A big problem is that the dollars the healthcare industry throws at our elected representatives allow them to buy more air time, campaign workers, mailings, print ads, etc. It’s a cycle that is hard to break free from. They take the money to get elected/re-elected and they know that if they don’t play ball with the donors, the next cycle their opponent is going to get the cash.
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    The average voter isn’t really all that informed. They hear the spin and that’s about it. Socialized medicine stands out. Single payer system might as well be Latin. Not many people know what it means. They aren’t going to take the time to learn either. They hear the terms like “government run healhcare” and “European style medical care” and they think “government, foreign…bad” and think that any system that another country has must be worse because we’re the best at everything.
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    It doesn’t even dawn on most Americans that most of us do not get the best care available. We get what our HMO’s dish out. We’re misled into thinking that just because the best care is available here, that we all get it. It’s like when the estate tax got rebranded as the Death Tax. It never would have affected the vast majority of us, but we were led to believe that it would. It’s an uphill battle to educate the public when the public doesn’t want to be educated.

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    FWIW,
    I’m having dinner tonight with my Brother-in-Law who is a now retired OB-GYN surgeon. Hopefully he won’t object if I pick his brain about the current legislative debate. I’ve plenty of reasons to trust his judgment generally and I’m interested in what he might have to say.

  • gysgt213

    Life as a Preexisting Condition.
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    The Mahablog
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    But I want to go back to the part about rejecting people with preexisting conditions. Who above the age of 40 does not have a preexisting condition? For that matter, what percentage of young adults freshly cut loose from their parents’ policies find they cannot obtain insurance because they failed to get through childhood without a preexisting condition?
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    The insurance companies are saying they can’t make a profit unless they deny coverage to people with preexisting conditions. How is this not an admission the private health insurance industry is a big, fat FAIL?
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    Righties just love to tell us that the reason health insurance is so expensive in some states, like New York, is that those states have (Cue: “Fortuna, Imperatrix Mundi (O Fortuna)”) regulations. And what are those regulations? Chief among them are provisions that limit the insurers’ abilities to deny coverage to people with preexisting condtions.
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    So, in many states, a middle-aged person with no serious health problems who was once prescribed Lipitor for high cholesterol would be unable to obtain health insurance at any price. In New York, this person can get insurance. Yes, it’s so expensive most people can’t afford it, but it’s obtainable for those who can pay for it.
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    What this says to me is that relying on a private insurance industry to pay for health care costs is unworkable. A private insurance industry simply cannot do the job of paying for health care, because the only way a private company can make a profit is to deny coverage to people who are actually sick so that they don’t have to pay those bills.
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    My next question is, how obvious does this have to get before people see it?
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    http://www.mahablog.com/2009/06/17/life-as-a-preexisting-condition/

  • Dee in Columbia MD

    I don’t know gunny, when are the people going to realize that the GOP is nuts?

  • yutsano

    What this says to me is that relying on a private insurance industry to pay for health care costs is unworkable. A private insurance industry simply cannot do the job of paying for health care, because the only way a private company can make a profit is to deny coverage to people who are actually sick so that they don’t have to pay those bills.
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    It goes one step further Dee. The only way a private company can make a profit is to deny coverage to people who are actually sick so that they don’t have to pay those bills AND STILL DEMAND THAT THEY PAY THE PREMIUMS FOR THEIR POLICY ANYWAY. That’s the part about recission that should make people truly sick. Rather than return what was basically ripped off money, they simply keep anything they collect and deny the coverage with a “too bad” and move on to the next sucker.

  • jcapan

    I was reading about the endemic corruption in Mexico some months back, and the author mentioned an official who’d been receiving something like 400,000 US$/month. Per PD’s comment above, this guy was simply acting in his indiv. self interest. Totally agree.

    “There’s nothing inherently evil about being poor and there’s nothing inherently evil about being rich.”
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    And I can’t disagree with that either … well, unless you strike the inherently out. What is inherent is that advanced capitalism brings us to this point. If we can’t acknowledge the core moral failings of capitalism, the system itself not the players, we’re pretty lost. Rightists can blame the welfare queens, we can blame the suits, Dee defends Obama, I lambast him, but we’re all talking around the necessary fixes.
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    PNNTO’s #s above are the only ones that matter. Couple them with figures we’ve seen before re: donations to Baucus & co. or Durbin’s recent admission (it being specific to banking on that occasion is irrelevant). Or fill in the NRA or other assorted special interest groups/lobbyists.
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    Without publicly financed campaigns (100%), without term limits, without an end to gerrymandering, we’re all, by and large, screaming into the void (i.e. screwed). Like that corrupt Mexican official, unless you can eliminate the money changing hands, this war, and I deem it just that, will never be won. Congress will sell Americans out every single time. They will offer only the mildest of corrections, and inevitably at the soonest opp. they’ll attempt to roll those back as well. I know, I’m a dirty pessimistic radical, but you do not, you cannot persuade these lords to do the right thing (per PD, the right thing according to their self interest and and the right thing according to our own do not overlap). The media could be inserted here as well.
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    And all this watered-down sh!t being ushered along, this centrist pap, will not fundamentally change the raw deal Americans are getting. What it will result in, sooner or later, is a return to GOP control. If Obama’s “socialism” had its shot and didn’t work, if the people are still suffering in ’12 or ’16, what else would you expect them to do? Sadly, there are no 3rd choices. We have evil and less evil to choose from.
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    So, I’m with Gunny.

  • Dee in Columbia MD

    Yes, I agree public campaign financing, an end to gerrymandering will help to move us further down the road. But it’s going to be hard to convince the nation’s minorities that a loss of safe minority seats will be in their best interest.
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    I disagree with the idea of term limits. As a member of the professional political class, all that will do is transfer even more power to staff and consultants who understand the political terrain that novice politicos will need to navigate, ensuring their dependency on individuals who no one elects and face no scrutiny.
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    Nevertheless, the regardless of what changes you bring to the system, ultimately if the citizenry does not remain engaged, there will be ways found to manipulate that system on behalf of those willing and able to fund that manipulation. The people already have all the power they need. And frankly, its more power than the richest, most well connected lobbyists can ever match.
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    Now, the day the American people wake up and exercise that power, is the day we get the health care reform we need and deserve. It’s the day that we get the education and environmental policies that make sense. And anyone not convinced that the people already have the power to trump any corporate or industry sway, clearly you missed the civil rights movement and missed the real lesson being set by these folks in Iran.
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    What did Obama say to the bankers, “You’ll are killing me here, I am the only thing standing between you and the pitch forks?” Maybe if Obama was absolutely sure that he could count on the pitch forks he would set them loose on the health insurance industry, big pharma and the AMA.

  • yutsano

    Maybe if Obama was absolutely sure that he could count on the pitch forks he would set them loose on the health insurance industry, big pharma and the AMA.
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    Maybe he should. Maybe every employee who wants health care reform should tell their employers’ HR departments to stop paying their health insurers until they absolutely guarantee the best health care rather than chintzing and chipping and expecting them to eat it more and more. Maybe we all just need to go all John Q. on every single health insurer in this country until they realize what they are doing will kill this country period. I feel like cancelling my health policy with a nice little note to CIGNA saying that due to their policy of recission I cannot in good conscience do business with them any more. Ultimately without business dollars the health insurers cannot exist. Maybe this is not practical, but more and more businesses across this country are recognizing the stranglehold the health insurance industry has on their bottom lines. It’s time for them to start feeling some of the pain the rest of us are experiencing.

  • stuartzechman

    Dee:
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    the liberal philosophy which determines a human beings worth based on the fact that they are human beings or shorter version based on who they are
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    I appreciate the qualification, even the shorter version. I think that’s an accurate statement you’ve made.

  • gysgt213

    ” Maybe if Obama was absolutely sure that he could count on the pitch forks he would set them loose on the health insurance industry, big pharma and the AMA.’
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    Word.

  • jcapan

    Well, if the $ is taken out of the equation, term limits might become less necessary, but altogether? Once elected, the first impulse is to focus their energies on reelection. Freeing them from the burden of raising cash would improve things, but ultimately, IMO, we need a system where our elected officials make the right decisions, even if it hurts their own political futures. Voting against a wasteful weapons’ system partially built in their district or ethanol b-s b/c they live in IA etc.
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    Either way, we’re talking about diff. paths to utopia, when the reality seems a coming dystopia.
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    As a beloved writer once said:
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    “There’s no such thing as life without bloodshed. I think the notion that the species can be improved in some way, that everyone could live in harmony, is a really dangerous idea. Those who are afflicted with this notion are the first ones to give up their souls, their freedom. Your desire that it be that way will enslave you and make your life vacuous.”
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    I am still afflicted with that notion, but I often think I’m tilting at windmills, that my children or grandchildren someday will (if the world is still here) be facing identical obstacles. It’s not merely inherent in capitalism, but in humanity itself.

  • sacredh

    The weekend threads are slim pickings. It would be nice if Ms. Bachman would have a little brain fart or two to liven things up. I miss the “1000 Words”.

  • sacredh

    Clarence Thomas in an airport restroom with Larry Craig fighting over Octomom would be ideal. Throw in Tom Cruise jumping up and down on a toilet seat and we could cancel Christmas. Just dreaming.

  • yutsano

    Clarence Thomas in an airport restroom with Larry Craig fighting over Octomom would be ideal. Throw in Tom Cruise jumping up and down on a toilet seat and we could cancel Christmas. Just dreaming.
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    Honestly? The whole Iran situation has me hitting refresh over and over at work, so cancelling Christmas isn’t high on my agenda. That and Thanksgiving is the major family holiday in my house so I probably wouldn’t miss it too much.

  • yutsano

    Poor Mark. He doesn’t have a Drudge headline to cope with this so he can’t figure out what to make of it.
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    http://thepage.time.com/2009/06/20/poll-americans-want-public-health-insurance/?xid=rss-page

  • jcapan

    I don’t think they used the term “lightbringer” but this has to be for you P-luk:
    ~
    http://sendables.jibjab.com/originals/hes_barack_obama

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  • dunedweller

    Good comments Dee, gunny. Hey where has sgwhite been? I miss his point of view.

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