The Berlusconi Thing Comes To The White House

Before boarding a flight to the U.S. on Sunday, Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi said that he was heading to Washington “handsome and tanned.” This was a joke–if you can call it that. Back in November, after President Obama won election, Berlusconi had described the new American leader as “young, handsome and sun-tanned.” Apparently, the Italian leader can’t get enough of his own humor. Ha. Ha. He pleases himself.

A complete accounting of Berlusconi’s offensive acts, to his family, his country, the Italian democratic process, and even to German Chancellor Angela Merkel, is long, and I won’t bother to repeat the littany here. (The New Yorker has an excellent primer here, though registatrion is required to read it.) He is a man who always seems entirely pleased with himself.

As I write, Obama is preparing to meet with Berlusconi at the White House. Sun tans are unlikely to come up. Everything is expected to be cordial. But the meeting gives me an excuse to post an editorial that the Nobel Prize winning author Jose Saramago in El Pais, the Spanish newspaper. (An Italian publisher owned by Berlusconi recently refused to publish a Saramago book, which described Berlusconi as a “delinquent.”)

Here is translation of Saramago’s quite biting editorial, courtesy of this website.

The Berlusconi Thing by José Saramago

I don’t know what other name I could give it. It’s a thing that looks dangerously like a human, a thing that throws parties, that organises orgies and rules a country called Italy. This thing, this illness, this virus threatens to become the cause of the moral death of Verdi’s country. If a deep vomit doesn’t succeed in ejecting it from the consciousness of Italians, the poison will end up corroding the veins and destroying the heart of one of Europe’s richest cultures. The basic values of human coexistence are trampled daily by the viscous feet of the Berlusconi thing; amongst its many talents, it has a funambulesque ability to abuse words, perverting their intention and meaning, as in the case of the People of Freedom, the name given to the party with which the thing took power. I’ve called the thing delinquent and I don’t regret it.

For semantic and social reasons that others will be able to explain better than I can, the term delinquent has in Italy a much stronger connotation than it has in any other language spoken in Europe. I use the meaning given to the term by Dante’s language in order to translate clearly and forthrightly what I think about the Berlusconi thing—though it is more than doubtful that Dante ever used the term. In my Portuguese, and according to the dictionaries and the current practice of communication, delinquency means ‘the act of committing crimes, disobeying laws or moral codes’. This definition fits the Berlusconi thing without a wrinkle, without any jarring, to the point that it seems more like a second skin than the clothes that the thing puts on itself. For years and years the Berlusconi thing has been committing crimes of a variable but always demonstrated seriousness. It’s outrageous that it not only disobeys laws, but worse, it invents them to safeguard its public and private interests as politician, businessman and the companion of minors. Where the moral codes are concerned, it’s not even worth talking about it, there is not a person in Italy or the rest of the world that doesn’t know that the Berlusconi thing fell into the most abject of states a long time ago. This is the Italian prime minister, this is the thing that the Italian people have elected twice to serve them as a role model, this is the path to ruin which is dragging along the values of liberty and dignity that suffused Verdi’s music and the political actions of Garibaldi—the ones that, during the struggle for unification in the 19th century, made of Italy a spiritual guide for Europe and for Europeans. This is what the Berlusconi thing wants to throw into the rubbish bin of History. Will the Italians end up allowing this to happen?

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  • stuartzechman

    Michael Scherer:
    .
    There’s are only superlatives for this; it is gorgeous.
    .
    Wow:

    This thing, this illness, this virus threatens to become the cause of the moral death of Verdi’s country. If a deep vomit doesn’t succeed in ejecting it from the consciousness of Italians, the poison will end up corroding the veins and destroying the heart of one of Europe’s richest cultures. The basic values of human coexistence are trampled daily by the viscous feet of the Berlusconi thing; amongst its many talents, it has a funambulesque ability to abuse words, perverting their intention and meaning, as in the case of the People of Freedom, the name given to the party with which the thing took power…
    .
    …For years and years the Berlusconi thing has been committing crimes of a variable but always demonstrated seriousness. It’s outrageous that it not only disobeys laws, but worse, it invents them to safeguard its public and private interests…

    Thanks so much for putting this superb piece of writing up; I might never have seen it otherwise.
    .
    What kind of moral and intellectual opiates would need to be withdrawn from the US political press corps in order to realize similar heights of prose with respect to our state’s leadership, Michael Scherer?

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    Yes, but how does he really feel.
    .
    Independent how how anyone may feel about the object of his scorn, his ability to deliver it eloquently is absolutely worthy of emulation.

  • anon76

    Spain’s had a beef with Berlusconi for some time- to the point where if he sets foot on Spanish soil he’ll be arrested. IIRC, this stems from some shady media business and possibly media monopolies. So, the obvious answer to SZ’s question is that we can expect similar prose from our media in regards to those in power as soon as those in power directly and personally threaten the media’s MO. (Not to take away anything from Saramago and El País)

  • neorationalist86

    I’d expect nothing less from El Pais than such an emotional tantrum, entirely devoid of facts, seeped in personal vendetta, and utterly ignorant of the strength and efficiency that Berlusconi has brought to the chaotic and unproductive Italian political milieu. His disdain for political correctness, while shocking to the fickle, hypersensitivities of the delicate cerebrums of the American west, is quite frankly a breath of fresh air. Berlusconi does what no other politician in the west dares, he speaks his mind, and he does so in an eloquent, witty, and humorous manner than most rational people find both entertaining and effective. Forza Berlusconi! Forza Italia!
    .
    Saramago:
    Extremely well written and impassioned, but completely irrelevant and off-base. This piece is clearly personal.

  • codepoet2

    Iran is imploding and Swampland is covering Berlusconi.

  • lupercal5

    i hate to talk about ‘moral equivalence’ but dude, a couple of ‘sun-tanned jokes (which i get every once in a while) just doesn’t justify this piece of venomous, raw emotion. I couldn’t even finish it. You should know that once someone is called a virus, you’re crossed a line, no matter how beautiful and entertaining the prose is. i mean i know u work at the white house press corps, but dude, don’t take it personally like some sort of state media in some sort of developing world that just feels like it has to defend its leaders.

  • gysgt213

    The guy’s from Italy. Isn’t this how he is expected to act there, like an emperor?

  • neorationalist86

    ‘Tis the duty of the reporter to report, codepoet. No single event deserves to nullify the rest of the world. As important as the election in Iran is, it is mostly of domestic relevance. Its international impact will be largely negligible and I am skeptical as to the notion of any revolutionary seeds currently being sown.
    .
    The most recent posts, with the exception of this, all concern Iran. Let us breath a bit and discuss the other happenings of the world.

  • 53_3

    “Berlusconi does what no other politician in the west dares, he speaks his mind, and he does so in an eloquent, witty, and humorous manner than most rational people find both entertaining and effective. Forza Berlusconi! Forza Italia!”
    .
    Obviously personal, but maybe muffled, more than a little accurate. Last thing I want to see is another CEO cum politician parade his/her arrogance and ignorance in front of the world.
    .
    Italy can have him. Another totally corrupt politician. I guess when looking at the same man, different faults are more visible to some than others. Being as we have just finished eight years of nearly unfettered corruption and more than a lick of ideological stiffness, I’ll stick to Obama for now.

  • jcapan

    The first thing that comes to mind when I think of Berlusconi is the graffiti I saw after leaving Milan’s airport on my honeymoon:
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    “Berlusconi es un fascista”
    ~
    I’ve never really revised that conclusion.
    ~
    “He is a man who always seems entirely pleased with himself” and “this is the thing that the Italian people have elected twice to serve them as a role model”
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    Does this remind us of any political figure in US history? I wonder… One can only be eternally thankful that this meeting involves someone like Obama. Were it still W. it’d be weep worthy.

  • neorationalist86

    Was that before or after you were handed the clean piece of white paper reading:

    “Il Manifesto Communista”

    …?

  • FlownOver

    That black shirt looks good on you.

  • neorationalist86

    And perhaps Saramago should revisit the history books. There was no liberty and dignity in Garibaldi’s assault on southern Italy. He remains the most reviled man in Italian history in the regions of Sicilia, Puglia, Calabria, and Campagnia. His misguided attempts at unification of a city-state dominated culture resulted in what is referred to as “The Southern Question.” The answer: neglect the south, use it resources to build the northern industrial cities, such as Milano and Genova, and instigate such utter destitution and poverty in the south that resulted in mass emigration. It is no wonder that the overwhelming majority of Italian-Americans and Italians of South America are of southern Italian descent.

  • neorationalist86

    FO, I was not implying that jcapan is a Communist, I was noting that the Communist Party is alive and well in Italy and the graffiti to which JC refers was likely a result of such. I could fill a suitcase with Communist literature handed to me on the streets of Milan during my stay there.

  • stuartzechman

    Not that I’m weighing in on the substance of neorationalist86′s position, but it is true that one can’t help but notice the presence of a relatively robust Communist party when in Italy’s major cities.

  • anon76

    The fascist tag is equally abundant in Spain as well- probably just a common epithet in the southern european countries that went down that route in the 1930s. I tend to think of Berlusconi as more of a self-aggrandizing clown than a fascist. Sort of a rightward version of Chavez, but with more democratic tendencies.

  • jcapan

    Ahhh, you have me there N-R. A text that holds a prominent position on my shelf. As in Italy, one can’t go a 100 meters here without seeing posters of smiling communist political candidates. Many of my friends vote this way, and I occasionally help with translation of their campaign literature.
    ~
    True story: I knew my then gf was the one when we lived on the frigid island of Hokkaido. I was really sick and a van blasting political rhetoric had stopped in front of the station across from my then home. My wife went out there and confronted them, and the commies promptly vacated the area.

  • apollyon07

    It’s amazing to me how a sizable amount of Europeans are receptive/supportive of Communism while simultaneously living on a continent whose eastern half was ravaged by it. Maybe if it’s tried for the 107th time it’ll work, somehow? “Dude, it could’ve worked, man!”
    .
    Also, more unapologetic racial jokes from that region. Anyone remember the Spanish basketball team’s pose from last Olympics? I wish someone would tan Berlusconi instead.

  • neorationalist86

    I just think Berlusconi has been misrepresented in the press. Over the course of a year in Milan it is true, I heard significant grumbling about his repeated return to the Chigi Palace, his monopolization of the media, and at times his uncouth private affairs. But very little was said of his allegedly insensitive comments. Italy is a very different country than most western democracies. Freedom of speech takes a very different meaning there, as people may speak freely and make observations that would be labeled as less than appropriate in the hypersensitivity of mainstream western society. The same norms and political correctness do not phase Italian society. This is good. A joke is simply that, a joke. People enjoy his humanistic elements, his lightheartedness, and his ability disarm a hostile press corp. In this sense I think criticism is unduly aimed at a man who represents a quintessential Italian characteristic.
    .
    As for substantive policy grievances, people are entitled to their “fascist” characterizations. However, Berlusconi has enabled government continuity and efficiency in a manner none of his predecessors have been able to accomplish. He will be the first Italian premier to complete the constitutionally mandated 5 year term. He is gifted at holding together his governing coalition in a society so divided ideologically and regionally that government has become synonymous with inaction and static deadlock. For this, he should be applauded.
    .
    Italy, I should also mention, has largely avoided the current financial crisis which has swept through most the world and hit Europe especially hard.
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    JC- Bravo!

  • pirate wench (demwoman)

    I were just comin’ home from livin’ in Bella Napoli fer 3 years this past August, an’ so far as I be rememberin’ there be no great love o’ Burlesque-oni in tha’ region – neither fer ‘is supposed efficiency, nor fer’ ‘is “democratic” ways – ‘is monopoly o’ th’ media be a partic’lar point o’ concern among me amici Italiani – th’ piece fr’m Spain pretty much nails th’ feelin’ I were gettin’ about ‘im fr’m th’ locals. I be thinkin’ neo be th’ Forza Italia equivilant o’ spongy an’ comp’ny ;) .
    ~
    An’ yet…there be th’ unfortunate parallel o’ th’ re-electin’ o’ th’ scoundrel sadly akin t’ our own dear departed leader.
    ~
    I were often thinkin’ o’ late, whilst th’ excoriatin’ o’ our two-party system were takin place, tha’ wi’ 16 or so, Italia be a’ th’ other end o’ th’ ship, so t’ speak, an’ their multi-party mutinous processes were no’ seemin’ an attractive alternative, a’ least not t’ me, me hearties!

  • pirate wench (demwoman)

    An’ Michael, me lad, it be “litany”, as any decent Catholic pirate wench worth ‘er salt be obliged t’ be pointin’ out :) !

  • neorationalist86

    What in the name of God are you talking about, woman? Cute act, though…Pffff….

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  • neorationalist86

    And perhaps you should consider the fact the Napoli is not exactly the bedrock of pro-establishment sentiment in Italy. I’d hedge my bets on Milano being more emblematic of Italian political sentiment than that of Napoli.
    .
    Perhaps the people of Napoli should stick to what they know best, food and crime.

  • jcapan

    Ms. Wench: Did you speak pirate-flavored Italian too? Or is that what happened to your English (having spoken pidgin Italian so long, this is what you’re left to)? I know of what I speak, pun-dat. I spend nearly all of my time speaking a 2nd language or my first language with students/others with little capacity. Then I get on the phone with my dad and he’s like “What!?” Particularly the gutteral affirmative grunts all the rage in the Nihongo.
    ~
    N-R: Pirate is a much-beloved longtime commenter. Tread softly. I’d add that she makes as much sense as anyone here at times.

  • neorationalist86

    I wasn’t aware of the long-standing hierarchy here at Swampland. Perhaps I should stand in awe of her thespian manner, however, she cast the first stone. I will, as I have continually done, take to arms against those who would bear arms against me…

  • tantef

    Tread softly indeed neo. Ms. Wench is a member of a large clan of pirate people from our great North West and they do not take lightly to “Pfff”.

    Her entire clan is about to be celebrated in the Emerald City next month and to school you in a bit of pirate history, pirates in general were one of the first groups to practice actual democracy.

    We never all agree here, but with a couple of rusty sponge types we all try to be civil to each other.

  • tantef

    Last sentence, insert ‘the exception’ after the but.

  • tantef

    Argggg, age is my excuse. ‘We never all agree here, but with the exception of a couple of rusty sponge types we all try to be civil to each other.

  • neorationalist86

    Well a thousand apologies indeed. Forgive me, but having never encountered the wench before you’ll understand if I found her commentary a bit histrionic. As for her particular focus on me, I feel obliged to note that her incoherent elocution is seemingly based on the social patterns exhibited in Napoli, with no emphasis or recognition of greater Italia. In so much as I have witnessed, the psyche of Napoli bears little resemblance to that of any other locale within Italy, and as such I give little relevance to any political discourse basing its assumptions on the sentiments of Napoli alone.

  • pirate wench (demwoman)

    Nei – you be th’ one maintainin’ first tha’ Burlesque-oni be such a great success a’ governin’ Italy – an I do be believin’ tha’ you be th’ first t’ mention Campagna..it weren’t me, me bucko…an’ weren’t it you who were commentin’ regardin’ Garibaldi an’ ‘is pillagin’ o’ th’ south o’ th’ Boot? I only be resondin wi’ me own experience. A wee mi’ touchy, there, mate :) .
    ~
    Per’aps if th’ fine citizens o’ Milano, bein’ such sterlin’ examples o’ real Italians, would quit happily havin’ their sweet northern hazardous waste a handily hauled south t’ be dumped on th’ gardens o’ th’ Napolitani, they, in turn mi’ not be so surly t’ th’ fine Milanese in their own turn, don’t ye be knowin.
    ~
    Ye do be ri’ though, tha’ th’ Napolitani be knowin’ about food – tha’ be th’ reason they be so bloody mutinous abou’ their precious vegetable crops a bein’ contaminated.
    .
    YARR!

  • pirate wench (demwoman)

    Apologies, neo – I be mistaken in a letter in yer moniker.

  • neorationalist86

    Lets examine my commentary, indeed…
    .
    My mention of Campagna was in no way linked to my praise of Berlusconi, it was in reference to Saramago’s erroneous claim that Garibaldi stood for dignity and liberty. I was (in the sole context of that single comment) discrediting Saramago.
    .
    As for the mangiatore di nebia, i.e. Milanese, I wholeheartedly agree that they are not representative of Italians, and whats more, they are indeed not true Italians in the lineage sense of the term. However, the sentiments I encountered in Milano, via newspapers, fellow students, coworkers, etc, was heartily echoed in Roma. Berlusconi, by and large, has national support and is in fact looked upon as the sole individual capable of running contemporary Italian government. Until a better suited candidate arises, Silvio will continue his immunity to criticism such as the likes of Mr. Saramago.
    .

  • ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®©

    .
    His disdain for political correctness, while shocking to the fickle, hypersensitivities of the delicate cerebrums of the American west, is quite frankly a breath of fresh air.
    .
    Allow me to shed my hypersensitivity: Stick it where the sun don’t shine.
    .
    However, Berlusconi has enabled government continuity and efficiency in a manner none of his predecessors have been able to accomplish.
    .
    But did he make the trains run on time?
    .
    The affair with the 17-year-old is embarrassing, but it will be mostly forgotten by the time there is another national election in Italy, and Berlusconi has already discovered his next populist platform. He is going to become Italy’s defender against the immigrant hordes.
    .
    Nifty. An even sleazier Murdoch, and he’s head of the government.
    ~

  • neorationalist86

    Thunder:
    As frustrating as the train delays and transportation strikes, scioperi, were to me as an American used to our accommodating system, to the Italians this is a non-issue. They are used to lengthy delays and unreliability, in everything from public transport to pay-day. This is not the efficiency I speak of. I am referring to governmental, legislative action. Berlusconi, more than any other politician in Italy, can overcome the vast ideological divides and reach substantive agreements….

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  • pirate wench (demwoman)

    jcapan, thanks be t’ ye fer yer kind sentiments – I be ri’ tetched…in th’ ‘eart, not in th’ ‘ead as per usual :) .
    ~
    Me pirate be not transferrin’ well t’ Italian…I were pridin’ meself on bein’ fair fluent parlare-in’ (Italian) durin’ th’ time I were livin’ there. It be fadin’ faster’n spindrift, since I were comin’ home, tho’. If I be rememberin’ correct, me pirate dictionary be havin’ entries in German, but I weren’t findin’ none in Italian. Besides, I weren’t th’ pirate wench until me ship returned t’ port ‘ere on th’ faire isle o’ Whidbey.
    ~
    I do be understandin’ th’ pidgin issue…havin’ been a respectable instructor o’ ESL in me former life, before I were takin’ up piratin’ an’ wenchin’ as me preferred lifestyle.
    ~
    I still be thinkin’ neo be some sort o’ Forza Italia plant – appearin’ t’ me t’ be neorationalizationizin’ in ‘is defense o’ Silvio ;) .
    ~

  • sacredh

    Pirate wench is not a thespian either. She’s straight. Very much beloved.

  • neorationalist86

    Sacredh?
    Please tell me that was a joke. Thespian being an actor…
    .
    Pirate:
    Forza Italia? Ma certo! Forza Italia davvero!!

  • 53_3

    The Emerald City? There’s a lot of us, it seems!
    .
    She is a treasure…

  • 53_3

    And Whidbey – th’ fair isle o’?
    .
    I’ve never heard it referred to it as that, but I’ll take it!

  • jcapan

    P-Wench:
    ~
    So, I guess I won’t hold my breath for the lost Fellini w/ Mastroianni wooing the ladies in pirate-Italian. Bummer.
    ~
    Wow, so reverse-culture-shock resulted in your pirate-hood!? Having done the Bilbo there and back again (and then back here again), I too felt the readjustment woes. Upon reflection, I think “going pirate” might have been the better tack. If I ever return I’ll have to attend your boot/eyepatch camp.
    ~
    And a query–can men take up wenchin’? I don’t know exactly what it means, but it sounds good.

  • tantef

    Jcapan, wenchin is an equal opportunity opportunity. Without wenches men would be tempted by the cabin boys of the world. Without men wenches would be….unable to provide the next generation of pirates. Going a’wenchin results in hangovers and sons and daughters o’guns.

  • sacredh

    neo: That was my feeble attempt at a joke. My posts are usually dead serious, but I thought I’d try a little humor just ONCE. I guess I should stick to being serious.

  • afguy

    That was my feeble attempt at a joke. My posts are usually dead serious, but I thought I’d try a little humor just ONCE. I guess I should stick to being serious.
    .
    sacredh,
    .
    In the not-so-distant past, that was a term used as a tongue-in-cheek insult when our politicians actually were on civil speaking terms with the others across the aisle. One classic political tale has Florida Sen. George Smathers accusing his opponent, Claude Pepper, of having a sister who was “a practicing thespian.”
    .
    Keep up the humor . . . I need the “fix”. Reality these days is just too d*mn depressing.

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  • mrtoads

    Ah; a light amusing thread for a change. So, I guess the consensus about the Silvio thing is: he’s been bad; he’s been good; in old Palermo, Padua[-ooooood] – he’s not asking for muu-uuch, etc.

  • rose83

    i hate to talk about ‘moral equivalence’ but dude, a couple of ‘sun-tanned jokes (which i get every once in a while) just doesn’t justify this piece of venomous, raw emotion.
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    lupercal5, I agree that wouldn’t be sufficient justification, but the “sun-tanned” jokes are really the least of Berlusconi’s problems…
    .
    One of Berlusconi’s problems is that he lets his prejudice inform his governing choices, as shown by his promotion of utterly unqualified attractive young women to important posts, or posts that at least should be important.
    .
    But the worst thing about Berlusconi is that he makes Bush look like he cherished the constitutional limits on his powers. That combined with the media hegemony and interference give the comparisons to fascism some legitimacy.

  • sacredh

    “his promotion of utterly unqualified attractive young women to important posts”
    That could be said of McCain’s choice of Palin as VP too. I think we can argue that McCain’s (and the republican’s) choice was actually much worse. Sarah would have been one 72 year old’s heartbeat away from the launch codes. Berlusconi is a buffoon who makes a mockery of the word “leadership”. McCain’s choice of Palin was a threat to our nation and to the world. The Italian people elected Berlusconi to lead them and seem to be willing to live with his eccentricities. Italy isn’t even close to being a superpower or a world leader. While I agree that Silvio isn’t a “ready for primetime player”, we were quite capable of making him look like a fount of wisdom in comparison.

  • neorationalist86

    The Italian people elected Berlusconi to lead them and seem to be willing to live with his eccentricities.
    .
    You’ve touched on a quintessential difference between American and Italian society. The Italians are an open people, who accept that their leaders have personal lives and personal views. Unlike Americans who do not tend to distinguish between the man and politician, Italians are fully aware of this duality and accept that a leader may have ‘eccentricities’ or worse, however if it does not effect governing it is largely a non-issue. The opposition has picked up on Berlusconi’s personal life and attempted to make it an election issue, but this only demonstrates how immune his policies are to criticism. This is a last-ditch personal assault to dislodge the fully functional center-right from power in Italy.

  • vastwastelander

    Neo – While I agree that we, as a culture, could stand to be more understanding of the “eccentricities” of our politicians and leaders, Berlusconi’s behavior seems to have stepped out of the realm of “eccentric” and into moral, ethical, and political corruption.

  • sacredh

    vastwastelander: While I can’t dispute the points you made, I think we should consider what neo said and also put Berlusconi in context. Look at his predecessors. The Italians might very well be thinking that’s he’s bad, but not as bad as some of the people they’ve had. Think of it this way: What if McCain/Palin had won? We might very well think that they’re bad, but not as bad as Bush/Cheney. John and Sarah might look good in comparison and we’d be relieved they weren’t as bad as Bush/Cheney. I pretty much believe all politicians are corrupt. It’s only a matter of degree. Their threshold is just different than ours.

  • tantef

    Sacred, your thespian joke was appreciated by me and everyone else here who has a sense of humor.
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    Thunder, I for one got the “trains running on time” referance but then again I am old enough to remember Benito’s legacy.
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    Neo, Please order yourself a sense of humor.

  • Ike Jakson

    With friends like Swampland Reporters of this article Obama most certainly doesn’t need enemies. Did the author ever think that Italy and Berlusconi would not read this Blog at some time or another? Well, with this goes another slice of the myth that Obama is well regarded in Europe. He should thank his lucky stars if Italy doesn’t slam the door in his face after this. And Time reveals its total ignorance about the European Political mind, and the way with humor in Europe. No wonder the UK and French Press carry disparaging photos of Obama and Michelle. Tsk Tsk, for the boy child in the White House.

  • neorationalist86

    Tantef-
    Relax, pal. I was merely ensuring that my comments weren’t be misrepresented, yet again. I wouldn’t want some knucklehead in a later thread alleging that I accused Pirate Wench of being a lesbian.
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    Ike:
    THANK YOU! Having lived in Europe (Milan to be precise) for a little over a year I completely understand Berlusconi and continue to find these personal assaults on him baseless, especially coming from hypersensitive Americans who clearly do not understand European society. Racism, stereotyping, broad characterizations, racial profiling, and racial humor are all very much existent in Europe and they largely do not phase Europeans. For example, in Italy it is common and accepted for Italians to view Arabs with a quizzical, suspicious eye. In turn, Italians traveling to Germany, lets say, expect a certain degree of increased security as they are considered more criminally prone than most Europeans and carry the stigma of the mafia wherever they go. ‘Tis the way of Europe. Europeans know it. Europeans, even those at the bottom of the totem pole, accept it. Europeans live with it. Why is this so hard for Americans to understand and grasp. we can’t apply American standards and norms to a European politician. It simply does not work…
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  • pirate wench (demwoman)

    Ah, neorationalizationist…yer pants be full o’ yer own load, so t’ speak – an ye be thinkin’ it be smellin’ like roses ;) .
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    Ye don’t be thinkin’ it be even th’ tiniest stretch tha’ ye be considerin’ yerself an expert in Italian politics an governance, and purportin’ t’ be understandin’ th’ entire mindset o’ Europe after just one year o’ livin abroad??? Hubris, me lad, hubris.
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    I were living in Italy fer 3 years, so’s my opinion should be countin’ 2/3 more’n yours, since ye be usin’ th’ time-spent yardstick t’ bolster yer expertise…an’ tha’ time be not even addin’ in me previous European livin’ stints…I be a fu*kin’ foreign relations goddess, based on yer own measure.
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    Ye be a mi’ bit off base regardin’ (among other things) how acceptin’ those on th’ totem pole be about th’ treatment they be receivin’…no wonder ye be soundin’ like ye be havin’ so much in common with Burlesque-oni, an’ th’ Fascist tradition he be spurned from…
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    YARR!

  • Ike Jakson

    Thanks for the sober voice neorationalist86. I didn’t think that I would find a sane one here. You will also note that I have since Posted the whole merry affair in my Blog and you are welcome to open and read the Pingback right underneath your comment. Please feel free to use it any manner you may need to. All I ask is that you maybe leave a comment in my Blog on what you think; you may be critical or anything; we can always learn but I doubt whether we can convince any of the Believers in this Blog to think otherwise. They probably don’t even realize that this Swampland Post is another nail in Obama’s personal image in Europe.

  • pirate wench (demwoman)

    I be a fu*kin’ foreign relations goddess a’ any rate, just fr’m bein’ a pirate wench, me hearties :) :) :) ! An’ tha’ be all I be sayin’ on th’ subject, in th’ unlikely event tha’ th’ cap’n be takin’ a gander a’ me postin’. ‘e be thinkin’ I be reformed, don’t ye be knowin’ a’ least in th’ wenchin’ department. ‘e knows thar’s no curin’ th’ pirate.
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    ARRGH!!!

  • pirate wench (demwoman)

    Ike – ye be meanin’ tha’ the fine Europeans, possessed as they be o’ all th’ fine-tuned an’ acceptin’ understandin’ neorationalizationist extols, be on th’ other hand simple-headed enough t’ equate th’ opinions o’ everyday blog posters wi’ those o’ th’ President? Be they all right wing nut jobs like ‘ere?
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    Me own experience be tha’ me own Italian friends be overjoyed tha’ we be havin’ th’ President we do…this nonsense just be more smoke bein’ blown by wishful nutjobs unable t’ accept th’ reality tha’ nearly th’ whole world be happy as clams a’ high tide wi’ our new President.
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    Ye need t’ be gettin’ out and about more, mate!

  • neorationalist86

    Pirate Wench-
    Point taken as for my year in Italy alone does not constitute expertise. I was merely noting that I have been there as opposed to simply reaching conclusions from across the pond. However, this year in Milan is certainly not the extent of my knowledge, I have relatives in Bari who have lived there their entire lives. From what I have read about racial politics in Europe, from what I observed while in Europe, from what I have heard directly from family members in Bari, and from what I was explicitly told by several Political Science professors in Milan, I stand by my observations on race relations in Europe.
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    You may have not picked up on the accepting attitudes while in Napoli (and I would suspect they would not be too fond of anything outside of Napoli), however, while certainly not liked, it is accepted throughout Italy that Italians will be treated with a suspicious eye when traveling abroad. I can’t tell you how many times in greater Europe I heard negative remarks made against Italians. Its as common as a cup of coffee in the morning. But, Mr. Berlusconi, of course, and it spite of how Europe treats Italy, is supposed to be Mr. Sensitive when it comes to race relations? Nah…

  • spiek

    I am surprised by the positive impression some people on this forum seem to have of mr. Berlusconi. I thought such enthusiasm was reserved for those Italians who for their news depend solely on Italian television – three commercial channels owned by mr. Berlusconi’s company, and three public ones that are controlled by his government.

    I have been living in Rome, Italy for five years now, coming from the in comparison boringly stable country of the Netherlands, and from observation and conversations with Italians of various walks of life and various regional origins I have come to believe this: Mr. Saramago’s critique, ornately formulated as it is, is largely accurate.

    In criminal proceedings against him, mr. Berlusconi has been sentenced to jail time for bribery and fraud, but acquitted on appeal due to the statute of limitations running out – interestingly, under Italian law the clock keeps ticking during the appeals process, and mr. Berlusconi’s lawyers have been skillful in dragging out the proceedings.

    To safeguard himself against guilty verdicts in other proceedings against him, mr. Berlusconi has managed to have laws passed to bar criminal trials against high officers of state while in office, including the prime minister (which has suspended two ongoing investigations of mr. Berlusconi on corruption charges), to shorten the statute of limitations, and to decriminalize certain forms of false accounting, which has halted four criminal cases against mr. Berlusconi.

    I don’t see much of the efficiency that he purportedly brought to Italian politics. He is efficient mainly in protecting his own interests. According to The Economist, the man controls 90% of Italian broadcast TV, and in 2004 managed to have a law passed that loosened the anti-trust provisions that limit the percentage of broadcast media that can legally be controlled by a single entity. And despite his relative longevity in office (the average lifespan of a cabinet in the Republic of Italy is slightly more than a year and a half; mr. Berlusconi almost completed the term 2001 – 2006), he has few tangible accomplishments. On his watch, public debt has grown much faster than GDP. Large infrastructure projects were started without funds. And he failed to make good on his promise to simplify the tax code.

    Now, the Italian economy is in bad shape. I don’t know what caused the impression that Italy has been able to avoid the current financial crisis. The shops are empty, people are apprehensive of spending money. According to the Italian central bank, the economy is expected to shrink 2% this year, its worst contraction in more than 30 years. Italy definitely looks to be worse off than northern Europe, where I still spend part of my time. I am not surprised that a billionaire with little sympathy for the difficulties of ordinary Italians is’t worried about the impact of the crisis on his ability to throw parties. But I do wonder with mr. Saramago when the half of the electorate that helped him into office will wake up from their television daze and try to become better informed about the dealings of their leader. They could start by reading a newspaper. And I don’t mean the Corriere dello Sport.

  • neorationalist86

    Spiek-
    My defense of Berlusconi was largely on a personal level, that is, I feel he has been unfairly targeted by western media for his personal life and statements he has made, in apparent ignorance of Italian sentiments on the matter. To the typical Italian it is not Berlusconi’s lack of politically correct rhetoric that makes him a target. As you noted, he indeed does receive his fair share of criticism for his monopoly of the media and his continuing legal problems.
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    As a leader, though, Berlsuconi has brought continuity to Italian politics. He can hold together his coalition and he can push through legislation. Essentially, he governs. Which is more than can be said of his predecessors.
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    As for the economy, though, I think you are wrong. Italy has indeed escaped much of the financial ills plaguing the globe. While of course it has not been entirely immune, as this is a global crisis, the effects have been considerably dampened in Italy. Unemployment rates are near record lows. There has been no housing bust, because there was no housing boom. Conservative crediting practices have largely isolated Italy from the American-led loan crisis. As for retail sales, they have been stagnant for years, long preceding this recession. According to Economy Minister Giulio Tremonti, “You’ll see that [Italy] improve[s] [its] position in this crisis, even if it’s because others nations are going backwards faster.” The European Commission predicts Italy’s economy to shrink by 2% this year, in stark contrast to much greater declines of Britain, France, Germany, etc. According to a CNN analysis this is partly due to Italy’s low-growth, low-risk dominated economic system. In any event, these trends serve to bolster Berlusconi’s resilience to personal attacks.

  • spiek

    Neorationalist86: Thanks for engaging in debate.

    I would like to provide some data on the Italian economy that sheds a different light on some assertions that your post seemed to present as facts. First of all, the current unemployment rate of 6.9% is only near record lows because the record low was 6.1%, in the middle of mr. Prodi’s tenure as prime minister. Note that I do not think that this should be chalked up as an accomplishment of the Prodi cabinet; Italy has pretty much followed the trend in the EU.

    In absolute terms, that 6.9% is slightly lower than Germany’s unemployment rate, and in the EU-27 Italy ranks in the middle of the group. A term like “record low” would be more appropriate for my native Holland’s rate of 2.8%. Eurostat predicts Italy’s unemployment to rise sharply to 8.8% in 2009, so the days of record low numbers are over.

    The GDP shrinkage of 2% that I quoted was a number put out by Italy’s national bank. The European Commission that you cite, or rather Eurostat, is in fact much more pessimistic. It predicts GDP to shrink by 4.4% in 2009, more than the EU average of 4.0%. Only seven of the EU-27 are worse off: Germany, Finland, Ireland, Hungary, and the three Baltic states. Britain and France both do better in terms of GDP growth; France is expected to shrink by ‘only’ 3.0%. And Italy’s economy already shrunk by 1% in 2008, while the EU overall grew by 0.9% in that year.

    Italy’s conservative crediting practices are more a national tradition than one of mr. Berlusconi’s accomplishments. Italian parents like to leave their children with a house – mortgage free, if at all possible. Italy’s outstanding mortgages add up to about 25% of GDP, against for example more than 100% in the Netherlands. Nevertheless, even though it is true that there has been no housing construction boom in Italy, there is definitely a bust. Prices that have risen sharply in the last few years have begun to drop significantly in 2008. Houses seem to be on the market forever, and sellers have been forced to lower asking prices by as much as 20% in some cases. The Center for European Policy Studies expects the bust to be shorter-lived in countries like France and Italy, that had no construction boom, than in other places, but it is there nonetheless.

    I don’t think your assertion that Italy has escaped much of the global financial mayhem, as much as I would wish it to be true, is supported by the data. It may be true that retail sales have been stagnant for years; I only have been here for five years, so I have limited data on what a booming retail sector is supposed to look like in Rome. But I remember Christmas shopping in 2007 to be significantly impeded by the sheer size of the crowds in the shopping centres. The same was not true in 2008: no crowds anywhere, and the large shopping centre closest to my home felt like a small town mall.

    If reasons can be identified for mr. Berlusconi’s popularity, the state of the economy isn’t among them. I attribute his appeal in part to the current anti-immigrant sentiment his party as well as his coalition partners pander to, and of course to the three permanent propaganda channels he has at his disposal on TV.

    Various different typologies of attitudes toward mr. Berlusconi can be observed among the Italians. There are those that hate him, and that are ashamed of the image of Italy he projects at home and abroad. Then there are those that hate him but vote for him anyway because they do not want to vote for the left. Next, there are those that do not understand what all the fuss is about, because after all he is doing a good job; this is the crowd that gets its news from Rete4, Canale 5, and Italia1, the three TV channels I was just talking about. And finally there are those that admire him, and secretly want to be just as “furbo” as him.

    The continuity that mr. Berlusconi has brought to Italian politics basically consists of the same guys staying in office for an unusually long time. This is not necessarily a net positive for the country; I have heard Italians remark that the main benefit of its political instability is that governments never stay in office long enough to really screw things up. But now mr. Berlusconi has the longevity to push through a legislative agenda that promotes his private interests.

    Not his leadership, but his lack thereof, has been evident in his handling of the Alitalia debacle, in which the company has ended up under substantial control of Air France at a higher price to the tax payer and at a higher cost in lay-offs than if he hadn’t blocked the initial Air France offer. And his handling of the rebuilding efforts after the devastating earthquake in Abruzzo has come under fire. Hundreds of survivors have protested in Rome yesterday against the slow pace at which reconstruction efforts are progressing. Of course, this protest was not covered on Italian television news.

    Mr. Berlusconi has been very effective in using his public office to further his private interests, but has little else to show for himself. He epitomizes the corruption that Italy so much needs to extinguish. His public utterances, rather than merely being undiplomatic, are often bordering on the erratic and the lunatic. He is not setting the leadership example that Italy so dearly needs. But, as some of my friends here are lamenting: “We are getting the government we deserve.”

  • neorationalist86

    Speik-
    I thank you for your informative response.
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    First, let me just say that I agree with much of your assessment. As you say, the economic crisis in Italy is worsening, indicated by the predicted jump in unemployment, and more pessimistic predictions of GDP shrinkage, etc, etc.
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    However, there are a few points I would like to comment on. As for retail sales, it is indeed the case that they have been relatively stagnant for years now. I returned to the US in March of this year after having been in Italy for a little over a year. In Milan the 2008 Christmas shopping was quite active. In the areas near Il Duomo (Via Dante, Vittorio Emanuelle Galleria, ect) the crowds were clearly unphased by any economic set-back. However, Milan being the economic main-stay of Italy that may not be entirely emblematic of the country as a whole. I was actually in Rome as well around Christmas, but it was on Christmas Eve and Christmas day. The city was not too bustling. However, from what I have been told by some of my Milanese friends, Rome is generally quite quiet around Christmas as the holidays tend to take on a less commercialized aura in Rome. So I am not sure that Rome is indicative of the nation either.
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    The banking sector of Italy has escaped the insolvency issues plaguing much of Europe and the US. They responded quickly to ensure that they have the necessary liquidity to weather the storm. However, in terms of credit there is a growing problem, but this is largely due to past regimes that have failed to act effectively and they have left Berlusconi little room to maneuver other than to let natural stabilizers slowly rectify the situation.
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    As for L’Aquila, Berlusconi acted quite quickly on that matter. His efforts may not be up to the demands of those involved, but he has been trying. Moving the G8 Religions Summit to L’Aquila was also an unnecessary, yet supportive gesture.
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    By and large, I understand the criticism. But I am of the opinion that Berlusconi’s character has been more under attack than his policies. He appears to be doing a better job than his predecessor, that is for sure. During the late ’90s Prodi’s economic polices while immediately effective resulted in disaster. In fact, unemployment at the end of his tenure was rampantly high. And I think that lends to your argument that many simply support Berlusconi because they refuse to support the left. The left is in serious need of reform and re-evaluation of their policies if they intend to compete against Berlusconi.
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  • http://condalmo.wordpress.com/

    I’m sorry I thought to read the comments after clicking through to see Saramago’s piece. Beloved or not… talking like a pirate? Really? When did TIME turn to MMORPG?

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