Obama Aide on Iran: “It’s not about us”

Despite the occasional English-language sign toted amid the protesting masses in Tehran, one fact remains: the protests in Iran this week, unlike the turmoil that preceded the 1979 Iranian revolution, does not have so much to do directly with the United States. The dispute now gripping the Iranian streets is one of domestic politics in the most literal sense, with different factions of the government and political elite struggling against each other over mostly domestic issues.

That’s not to say that Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad wants to take the United States out of the conversation. In his press conference Sunday, Ahmadinejad described the contested Iranian election as a “blow to the tyrannical pillars of the ruling nations of the world,” also known as the “domineering and hegemonic capitalist system that lacks culture.”

But the White House is consciously working to avoid any statements that might provide fuel for Ahmadinejad’s populist rants. All of the public comments so far have sought to minimize the United States role in adjudicating or intervening in the Iranian dispute. “The point is this is not about us,” said one administration official, who has been working on the issue of Iran. “The point here is we will continue to monitor the situation to see how it, in a sense, resolves itself over the coming days. The pressure is on them to demonstrate to the world that this was a legitimate election and that the outcome reflects the will of the Iranian people.”

This message is likely to be repeated later today, when President Obama takes questions from reporters at around 5 p.m. following a meeting with Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi. Look for the president to express concern over the election results and the violence, while calling for patience as the true winner of the election is sorted out. As Vice President Biden said yesterday on Meet the Press, “Look, we just don’t know enough. . . . It’s been less than 24 hours since the polls have closed.” There is no message here for the Iranian people. No attempt to intervene publicly in its domestic politics. No urgency to congratulate a winner in the election, or declare the current election results invalid.

This position makes diplomatic sense. Obama is seeking expanded relations with the Iranian government no matter who controls the presidency. But as Scott Wilson points out in the Washington Post today, the wait-and-see approach is also not always the rule in U.S. diplomacy. It took just one day for the Bush Administration to recognize the unelected interim government in Venezuela, after Hugo Chavez was briefly toppled in a coup in 2002. The decision quickly turned into an embarrassment for the White House, as Chavez regained power a few days later.

UPDATE: As expected, Obama made very clear Monday afternoon that the U.S. did not want to meddle in Iranian affairs. His full comments after the jump.

Obviously all of us have been watching the news from Iran.  And I want to start off by being very clear that it is up to Iranians to make decisions about who Iran’s leaders will be; that we respect Iranian sovereignty and want to avoid the United States being the issue inside of Iran, which sometimes the United States can be a handy political football — or discussions with the United States. Having said all that, I am deeply troubled by the violence that I’ve been seeing on television.  I think that the democratic process — free speech, the ability of people to peacefully dissent — all those are universal values and need to be respected.  And whenever I see violence perpetrated on people who are peacefully dissenting, and whenever the American people see that, I think they’re, rightfully, troubled.

My understanding is, is that the Iranian government says that they are going to look into irregularities that have taken place.  We weren’t on the ground, we did not have observers there, we did not have international observers on hand, so I can’t state definitively one way or another what happened with respect to the election.  But what I can say is that there appears to be a sense on the part of people who were so hopeful and so engaged and so committed to democracy who now feel betrayed.  And I think it’s important that, moving forward, whatever investigations take place are done in a way that is not resulting in bloodshed and is not resulting in people being stifled in expressing their views.

Now, with respect to the United States and our interactions with Iran, I’ve always believed that as odious as I consider some of President Ahmadinejad’s statements, as deep as the differences that exist between the United States and Iran on a range of core issues, that the use of tough, hard-headed diplomacy — diplomacy with no illusions about Iran and the nature of the differences between our two countries — is critical when it comes to pursuing a core set of our national security interests, specifically, making sure that we are not seeing a nuclear arms race in the Middle East triggered by Iran obtaining a nuclear weapon; making sure that Iran is not exporting terrorist activity.  Those are core interests not just to the United States but I think to a peaceful world in general.

We will continue to pursue a tough, direct dialogue between our two countries, and we’ll see where it takes us.  But even as we do so, I think it would be wrong for me to be silent about what we’ve seen on the television over the last few days.  And what I would say to those people who put so much hope and energy and optimism into the political process, I would say to them that the world is watching and inspired by their participation, regardless of what the ultimate outcome of the election was.  And they should know that the world is watching.

And particularly to the youth of Iran, I want them to know that we in the United States do not want to make any decisions for the Iranians, but we do believe that the Iranian people and their voices should be heard and respected.

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  • gysgt213

    I heard Ahmadinejad said these were not massive demostrations but instead massive turnouts for “Iran’s got Talent.” In which case I guess he was lying about the soccer game.

  • gysgt213

    “But as Scott Wilson points out in the Washington Post today, the wait-and-see approach is also not always the rule in U.S. diplomacy. It took just one day for the Bush Administration to recognize the unelected interim government in Venezuela, after Hugo Chavez was briefly toppled in a coup in 2002. The decision quickly turned into an embarrassment for the White House, as Chavez regained power a few days later.”
    .
    Run together like that. Absolutely makes no sense.

  • afguy

    …”It’s not [always] about us”…
    .
    The sooner we realize that on a number of levels, the better off we (and the rest of the world) will be for it.
    .
    Jeez, I often don’t recognize this country these days.

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    Absolutely makes no sense.
    .
    It makes sense to me. Obama is cautious. Bush was an idiot. The difference has real-world consequences. What’s not to get?

  • darius3

    As Vice President Biden said yesterday on Meet the Press, “Look, we just don’t know enough. . . . It’s been less than 24 hours since the polls have closed.” There is no message here for the Iranian people. No attempt to intervene publicly in its domestic politics. No urgency to congratulate a winner in the election, or declare the current election results invalid.
    .
    I don’t say this often, but Biden said exactly the right thing yesterday. Any attempt by us to call a winner in this election will result in massive blowback; Iranians are (justifiably) extremely sensitive when it comes to the perception that Americans are meddling in their internal affairs.

  • afguy

    PD,
    .
    Just seems to me we have needed this cautious outlook on foreign affairs for a number of years now in that part of the world. I’m old enough to remember the return of the Ayatollah from France. Our involvement in that part of the world has been one mis-adventure (or ovcer-reaction) after another.
    .
    Time to step back, take a breath, and let them sort out what all of this means.

  • afguy

    From what I am hearing in various accounts, the Iranian people do NOT hate Americans. The understandably DO hate the interference of our government in their affairs over recent history.
    .
    We have a chance to reclaim some good will here.

  • 53_3

    I think it is telling that Ahmadinejad is using the same tactics the GOP has.
    .
    This really is not a partisan observation. Bush and McCain/Palin invoked Iran numerous times during the campaign. Ahmadinejad has invoked the US and Israel.
    .
    Also, I think MS is dead on right here. This is Iranian democracy in the making, and by no means does this mean that should Mousavi prevail, Iran will just swoon into our arms.
    .
    I’m hoping that the end result will be the replacement of Ahmadinejad. If this happened, it would effectively isolate Netanyahu on the world stage, and might be the impetus needed to finally move Israel into a real peace mode.

  • neorationalist86

    53_3…
    I agree that a Mousavi victory would be somewhat effective in the isolation of Israel. It would de-legitimize Netanyahu’s hawkish approach by greatly improving the international image of Iran. However, Iranian policy would essentially be unchanged. Ahmadinejad/Mousavi are simply rhetorical in nature, they have no real authority over policy direction. Therefore, were Netanyahu to play that card he could still garner support by leaping over Mousavi and targeting Khamenei…I’m not sure how much a Mousavi victory would in fact be positive.

  • kawoold

    It wouldn’t be a big deal if it weren’t for the fact that the revolts taking place are because of Khamenei’s (appearance of) interference in the election. If Mousavi had won, no one would be protesting like they are currently. If this really takes off to be the beginnings of a revolution, there is the possibility of actual major changes in Iran, instead of just a new figurehead.
    .
    This is turning out to be a much bigger election than I think most people were expecting.

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    Ahmadinejad/Mousavi are simply rhetorical in nature, they have no real authority over policy direction
    .
    Don’t you think that the Mullah’s inability to declare the winner in the election might have a bearing on their ability to continue to direct policy?
    .
    If the results don’t matter then why would they have intervened in the first place?

  • pafro

    Whatever happens, I think we can all agree that this is excellent news for the McCain campaign.

  • neorationalist86

    Who intervened? Do we even know this much at this point? I don’t think so…

  • kawoold

    No, there’s no way to know who (if anyone) intervened, but I would imagine Khamenei would be one of the first to point fingers towards. He is ultimately the one in charge and there seemed to be quite a rush to get the election results out and announce a winner, and from what I’ve been reading from Sully, the Basij have been out in full force today.

  • neorationalist86

    Khamenei, by the way, has opened an investigation into allegations of fraud. Whether or not this is merely a political ploy to protect himself remains to be seen, but if it is in fact sincere than what does that suggest?

  • Ivy_B

    pafro – remembering good times.

  • Ivy_B

    neorationalist86 – in response to you at 3:55 pm, see our own TIME magazine.
    .
    http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1904729,00.html?xid=rss-topstories

  • kawoold

    Maybe I’m cynical, but it looks like he’s trying to cover a mistake. The vote totals were far more extreme than he was expecting and not easy to pretend that they’re correct.
    .
    Or it could mean that somewhere else there’s underlying corruption that is hidden even from Khamenei, and he wants to root it out before it jeopardizes his authority.

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    Any word from Joe? I’m assuming he’s still somewhere in the Middle East.

  • stuartzechman

    Thanks so much for this report, Michael Scherer.

  • stuartzechman

    Michael Scherer:
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    BTW, this is a joke, right?
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    They wouldn’t put this up during a potential political watershed moment in Iran (with enormous implications for the Obama Administration)…right?

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    @Southernbell….
    .
    Could Ayatullah Khamenei Be Vulnerable?
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  • neorationalist86

    Ivy_B:
    Thanks for the link, interesting article.

  • rose83

    Paul Dirks, thanks for noting the anonymous byline. In retrospect Joe’s post about the inexplicably complicated election ballots was perhaps more significant than it first appeared. It’s almost like whoever is running this election set it up to be a battleground for the real political elite.

  • spob

    “election” covers up a lot. The “elections” pitted candidates handpicked by the mullahs. Any hint that this is a “democratic” process is propagandizing.

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    A lot of people are putting themselves in significant danger on behalf of their candidate and in defiance of the mullahs. You may think ‘they’re all the same’ (unsurprisingly) but apparently a lot of Iranians seem to think it matters a great deal.
    .
    And in case people need reminding, sometimes the guys we don’t like are very popular. Venezuela comes to mind……

  • 53_3

    neo:
    .
    I don’t think, if Mousavi were to win, Netanyahu could pull that one off. Netanyahu was successful because Ahmadinejad continually reinforced Netanyahus’ message by his untimely pronouncements about Israel and his widely heard denials of the Holocaust.
    .
    Even though he is a figurehead, and much like our WH spokesman, positionwise, as persianadvocate pointed out. One difference is that no one hears from Khamenei himself, even though he’s the man behind the curtain.
    .
    The reason Netanyahu wouldn’t get very far is that Khamenei is usually very quiet himself, and has never voiced any type of reinfocing echo for Ahmadinejads’ rants. I’ve had the distinct impression that Ahmedinejad has stepped over the line from time to time, as far as Khamenei is concerned*.
    .
    *I only get this impression from various media accounts from time to time – so I won’t put too much weight on my own comment.

  • afguy

    And in case people need reminding, sometimes the guys we don’t like are very popular. Venezuela comes to mind……
    .
    Yeah, PD. Chavez, Hamas, to name a couple… be careful what we ask for – we just might get it. If we’re really for democracy in these countries, sometimes we here in the US need to hold our nose, and accept the results, and then learn how to deal with the resultant leadership, rather than throwing an imperial hissyfit and trying to undermine or overthrow who was chosen.

  • jcapan

    Since I rely on CNN international, the coverage is a bit better. But let’s say the MSM jumps on the Andy-Sullivan bandwagon (as objective as a murderer’s mother), he of the ‘this is a living pop-political-culture moment of which I must be a leading figure.’ But what would we get? Wolf F’ing Blitzer from the Situation Room? The perpetually inarticulate frat-boy Anderson Cooper.
    ~
    I’m not saying they shouldn’t be paying attn. by any means, but I AM saying that when they do we’re hardly thrilled with the results. The people who truly care about what’s going on in Iran (or, I’d add virtually any other issue of global or domestic import) do not watch CNN, MSNBC etc. They’re glued to the nets and tweets.

  • gysgt213

    “election” covers up a lot. The “elections” pitted candidates handpicked by the mullahs. Any hint that this is a “democratic” process is propagandizing.”
    .
    Spob-At least initally ours are handpicked by the media. Those whom the media falls in love with get great and constant coverage. Those whom the media hate/don’t particular care for get ignored or savaged in the press. Maybe that’s how should be and maybe its not, but that’s the way I see it.

  • spob

    gunny, your response is pretty silly. That a free press chooses to speak freely on candidates and that fact has consequences does not make our system at all comparable to that of Iran.
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    Honestly, you clown yourself with nonsense like that.

  • stuartzechman

    Commenters:
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    It’s not about us.
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    …Unless you’re the perpetual analytical failure named Bill Kristol:

    Kristol: Memo to Conservatives
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    Posted by William Kristol on June 15, 2009 07:21 AM
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    There have been very good grounds to criticize President Obama’s foreign policy so far. There will be much more to criticize over the next three and a half years.

    Oh goody! During the rest of Obama’s first term in office, neo-conservatives apparently hate the Muslim world so much that they’re eager to put their opinions of the President’s foreign policy in an inverse ratio with that of ordinary Muslims. It would appear that, at least according to them, the less those billions of people hate America, the “more to criticize” from this tiny herd of savants.

    But he is our president. We could be at an historical inflection point in Iran. The United States may be able to play an important role.

    …If, by “play an important role”, Kristol means “stay the crap out of it unless there’s evidence of genocide”, then I suppose he could be correct. Somehow I don’t think that’s what he has in mind.

    The task now is to explain what the Obama administration (and Congress) should be saying and doing, and to urge them to do what they should be doing.

    Actually, if there were a press corps in this country not dominated by people who believe John Yoo is deserving of a column (in order “to counter some of the criticism of The Inquirer as being a knee-jerk liberal publication“), the task for Kristol’s ilk would be to explain how they have any credibility to comment on foreign policy at all after producing this record of absolute, colossal wrongness:

    According to journalist Dana Milbank, Kristol was “perhaps the most outspoken supporter of the Iraq War”.[10] On September 18, 2002, he declared that a war in Iraq “could have terrifically good effects throughout the Middle East.” A day later, he said Saddam Hussein was “past the finish line” in developing nuclear weapons. On February 20, 2003, he said of Saddam: “He’s got weapons of mass destruction … Look, if we free the people of Iraq we will be respected in the Arab world.” On March 1, 2003 — 18 days before the invasion of Iraq — Kristol dismissed the possibility of sectarian conflict afterward. He also said, “Very few wars in American history were prepared better or more thoroughly than this one by this president.” He maintained that the war would cost $100 billion to $200 billion (the cost is now about half a trillion dollars). On March 5, 2003, Kristol said, “We’ll be vindicated when we discover the weapons of mass destruction.”
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    In 2003, just as the Iraq War was starting, Kristol stated, on the National Public Radio show Fresh Air, “There’s been a certain amount of pop sociology in America … that the Shia can’t get along with the Sunni and the Shia in Iraq just want to establish some kind of Islamic fundamentalist regime. There’s almost no evidence of that at all. Iraq’s always been very secular.”[11] Kristol also wrote a book “The War Over Iraq” with Lawrence Kaplan before the Iraq War and stated that: “The United States may need to occupy Iraq for some time. Though U.N., European and Arab forces will, as in Afghanistan, contribute troops, the principal responsibility will doubtless fall to the country that liberates Baghdad. According to one estimate, initially as many as 75,000 troops may be required to police the war’s aftermath, at a cost of $16 billion a year. As other countries’ forces arrive, and as Iraq rebuilds its economy and political system, that force could probably be drawn down to several thousand soldiers after a year or two.” [12] (The war in Iraq currently costs approximately $12 billion a month, and American forces there number about 150,000.)

    That’s quite a task ahead of neo-conservatives, isn’t it? Kristol’s got to somehow explain how he could be so wrong about everything, and yet still be taken seriously about…well, anything.

    Presuming ahead of time that Obama will fail to exercise leadership, and cataloguing this episode pre-emptively as another in a list of Obama failures, would be a mistake.

    “Fail to exercise leadership”?
    Has Kristol really bought into the “Obama’s a Muslim” myth so profoundly that he’s assigned the President powers on par with Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei? What “leadership” could the President possibly exercise, apart from not giving the forces supporting Ahmadinejad’s reelection more of a reason to smear Mousavi as a puppet of the US? What is Kristol talking about?

    The U.S. has a huge stake in the possible transformation, or at least reformation, of the Iranian regime. If there’s some chance of that happening, and some chance of U.S. policy contributing to that outcome, we should hope Obama does the right thing, and urge and pressure him to do so–because then the United States will be doing the right thing, and the United States, and the world, will benefit.

    Again, what’s “the right thing” according to Kristol?
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    What actual policy is Kristol telling neo-conservatives everywhere to “urge and pressure” Obama into doing? Is it merely the opposite of whatever the Administration does? Are neo-conservatives mind-readers? Apart from effrontery about “the right thing” and “the world will benefit” made particularly appalling by Kristol’s nauseating record (of having supported the worst foreign policy decisions that the US has made in a century), what specifically is he telling neo-conservatives to advocate? Does anyone know?

    This too is the role of a loyal opposition.

    No, the role of a loyal opposition is to say to the country “Here’s the policy that the government should be pursuing.“, like, for example “We should immediately begin to reduce our forces in Iraq based on a responsible, realistic time-table.“. “Opposition” in and of itself or with respect to some bizarre, inchoate concept of “leadership” does not constitute anything more than knee-jerk, ideological antipathy.
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    …Which is probably what we can expect from people who routinely hallucinate as profoundly as Bill Kristol.
    .
    Here’s my Memo to Conservatives (especially the dullard Kristol):
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    Zechman: Memo to neo-Conservatives
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    Posted by Stuart Zechman on June 15, 2009
    .
    Try getting something –anything– factually right about the world before pontificating to the Obama Administration or the American people about “leadership”. Understood, dunces?

  • gysgt213

    “It makes sense to me. Obama is cautious. Bush was an idiot. The difference has real-world consequences. What’s not to get?”
    .
    Thanks Paul. I misread that. I thought we were going to get an example of how waiting worked out.

  • spob

    SZ, I presume that if any member of the Obama Administration yaps about “elections”, you’ll be criticizing that member. Hitch, who has his issues, is spectacularly right here:
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    http://www.slate.com/id/2220520/

  • jcapan

    Hitch’s source: “I went to the last major Ahmadinejad rally and got the whiff of what I imagine fascism to have been all about. Lots of splotchy boys who can’t get a date are given guns and told they’re special.”
    ~
    Wasn’t that a Palin rally?

  • gysgt213

    “Honestly, you clown yourself with nonsense like that.”
    .
    Spob-Thanks for showing me that trying to converse with you is a complete waste of time. Don’t worry you are on ignore from now on.
    .
    But before that. I was not comparing our system to their system. Re-read the comment and try to think beyond what seems to be your only ability and that is to insult people when you respond to them. No wait. Don’t do me any favors.

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    It’s interesting how some people feel the need to downplay the differences between the candidates and assert that the Iranian election would be a sham even if the votes had been properly counted. After all, the logic of warfare requires that an entire population has to be held responsible for it’s leaders. How inconvenient it would be to realize that a significant fraction of Iranians actually want to pull back from the brink….

  • stuartzechman

    spob:
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    I think that the worst possible thing for the US government to do would be to be seen as taking sides on behalf of Mousavi.
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    It seems pretty rational to me that the bulk of what needs to be done to support democratic change in Iran must be done by ordinary citizens (here, there and abroad) and a press corps whose interests should lie in fair, precise reporting of significant world events.
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    Yes, of course I’ll criticize the Obama Administration if it f*cks that obvious of a task up. All they have to do is let this be the Iranian peoples’ moment, and not cast suspicion (through association with the US government) on whatever indigenous movement toward real democracy there is in Iran.

  • 53_3

    BTW, I’ve heard that the Mousavi crowd was 2 to 3 million, and caught the RG and the government by surprise.
    .
    Also, that Ahmadinejads’ rally was much smaller, with militia and conservatives making up the bulk of the participants.

  • jcapan

    A Sully reader writes:
    ~
    “Reading your blog over the past 30 something hours makes me realize why the MSM is really finished. I mean, this point has finally hit home. You are blogging real time events, with descriptions, evaluation, analysis, and eye witness accounts. You are gathering information from a myriad of sources and putting it out there for a cohesive message. CNN, NY Times, et al are merely running an article about “thousands” of protesters. Its a canned message from just a few stale sources. The revolution is definitely on in Iran. And its on in American journalism too.”
    ~
    Hmmm…

  • jcapan

    And this from Iglesias:
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    “Whenever I find myself talking about new media to skeptics of an older generation who worry that the standards online are too debased, I try to remind people that the real debasing came with the rise of multi-channel cable news. In terms of the Iranian elections, the world’s top newspapers have the people on the ground reporting the main facts, and there’s lots of smart analysis from legitimate experts all over the web, but on television if it can’t be captured by two talking heads debating each other it’s like it never happened.”

  • gysgt213

    jcapan-You would think there would be lessons learned but the media on television not only do care, but they are saddled with highly paid talkers who no longer know how or have the ability to practice journalism. All they know how to do is entertain.

  • stuartzechman

    Oregon JC:
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    Maybe it’s because the government hasn’t taken a formal position, and so the cable news blatherers literally do not know what line they should be parroting?
    .
    Without the state to tell them in the broadest, simplest terms who the good guys and who the bad guys are, it looks like the networks might be lost as to what stenography they should perform…

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  • jcapan

    SZ: I’m not sure the cause. Aside from deeming it insignificant or unsexy, I tend to think they’re too obtuse (my ref. to Wolf & AC360 above) to judge what has substance and what doesn’t (per your Politico link). Perhaps the partisan sorting hasn’t happened quickly enough for the Begala-Carlson template to apply. But since I can’t see any of it, I can’t say.
    ~
    But William Kristol wrote this today:
    ~
    http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2009/06/memo_to_conservatives_1.asp

  • jcapan

    Uhhh, partisan sorting, sort of, maybe has happened:
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    http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2009/06/republicans-challenge-obama-over-iran.html

  • jcapan
  • cfukara

    53_3 June 15, 2009 at 5:33 pm: ” .. I’ve heard that the Mousavi crowd was 2 to 3 million, and caught the RG and the government by surprise. ..”

    My! O, My! Mine is bigger than yours!
    If you had heard otherwise, would you tell us?

  • 53_3

    “If you had heard otherwise, would you tell us?”
    .
    Not that shallow, cfukara. If his crowds were smaller, it wouldn’t necessarily indicate a lack of support for him, because obviously, the mullahs are trying to suppress his support.
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    It does however, especially in the face of that suppression, help as an indicator just how much support is there for Mousavi. I could have provided links, but anyone could find it. It’s plastered all over the news.
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    They claim that Ahmadinejad has more support in rural areas, with local politics in play, which I know nothing about, not even from the news.
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    Other than by reading Persianadvocate’s posts, it is really hard to get an idea how successful this “revolt” will be.

  • 53_3

    Base data, cfukara, if this succeeds, then Obama’s job in the ME on the nuclear front* will be much, much easier.
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    *I doubt that Iran’s approach to Israel will change much, except to be not as threatening, which will help us there, too.

  • Ike Jakson

    And what on earth made you think that it would be about the United States, dear author. Tehran knows Obama is trying to run a second term for Jimmy Carter and everyone knows what they thought of that failure. Democrats have ALWAYS WORN BLINKERS ABOUT FOREIGN POLICY and this article reveals the full extent of their ignorance of Middle East Affairs.

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