Baucus Predicts GOP Votes for Health Care Reform

Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus, speaking to reporters this morning at a breakfast sponsored by the Kaiser Family Foundation, sounded extraordinarily optimistic about the prospects for bipartisan support of the health care reform bill that his committee will begin writing in mid-June. “Very high. Very, very high,” he said, saying he puts the odds at 75-80%. For that, he gives a big share of credit to Senator Charles Grassley, the ranking Republican on Finance, whom Baucus calls “a real hero.”

So what will that bill look like? On that, Baucus wasn’t nearly as specific. He did say that the bill would set up “exchanges” where people could comparison shop for insurance politices, that it would impose new regulations on the buying and selling of insurance, that it would do away with current practices where people get charged vastly different insurance rates according to their health history. And it was possible to draw some other clues from his answers to some of the questions that were raised:

1. Will the bill provide universal coverage? It has to come pretty close, Baucus said, if all the other reforms are going to work. Most health care experts agree. By “nearly everybody,” Baucus added he was talking about something like 96% of all Americans. However, he refused to specify how quickly that might be achieved.

2. Will the bill have a government-financed “public option”? This is one of the most contentious questions surrounding the health care debate, with the insurance industry arguing that giving Americans the option of enrolling in a Medicare-like plan would essentially destroy its business model. While Baucus said that “a version will be there,” he also hinted strongly that it will be structured as some kind of compromise. “There are ways to skin a cat,” he said.

One possibility that he sounded pretty enthusiastic about is having the public option as some kind of “fallback”. I’ve heard that fallback idea talked about quite a bit lately, in various guises. For instance, there may be such an option in insurance markets where there is no real competition–which, these days, is pretty much everywhere. Another version under discussion would trigger the fallback if the private health insurance industry failed to bring costs under control.

3. What about single payer? Not on the table. Why? Because it couldn’t pass the Congress, Baucus said. He also said single payer does not focus enough on the quality of care — something that single-payer advocates will certainly disagree with.

4. How will you bring costs under control? As he has in the past, Baucus said the key will be changing the way that health care providers are reimbursed, so that they will be rewarded for the quality of the care they provide, and not the quantity.

5. What about the tax exclusion for employer-provided health care? Baucus hinted strongly that he wants to put some limits on it, because it is “analytically true” that counting health benefits as a kind of tax-free income is regressive, distorts the system, and encourages overuse. But he added: “I’m not endorsing it at this point.”

The answer to many of these questions are likely to be determined by the numbers. Under the budget rules, any health care plan that passes Congress is going to have to pay for itself (as it affects the federal deficit) within 11 years. Baucus said that over the Memorial Day recess, his staff expects to be getting a lot of numbers back from the Congressional Budget Office — numbers that will help determine what is possible and what it not.

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  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    Thanks for the coverage.
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    There’s obviously a lot going on today.
    It’s nice that you stay focused.

  • centfan

    How does that work? If a doctor’s patients aren’t dropping like flies then he gets more money than the “bad” doctor? Is that like points on a traffic ticket?
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    I guess that means heart surgeons will earn pocket change while chiropractors buy large islands.
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    If Republicans heard nice things about the Credit Card Bill of Rights maybe they’re less afraid to dip their toe into the health care mess. Or maybe my alarm clock hasn’t gone off…

  • Commenter 2B named later

    He also said single payer does not focus enough on the quality of care — something that single-payer advocates will certainly disagree with.
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    The simplest form of single-payer that I’m aware of basically pays out X dollars for Y procedure, but if the simplest form is insufficient, I’m sure there are other ways of addressing this issue.
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    As for “not being able to pass Congress,” I don’t know what to say. He would know better than I would.
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    There’s a lot I don’t know about single-payer, and it may truly not be the best option. But it doesn’t make sense not to consider it at all, even if only as a reference for comparison on the efficiency and projected outcomes of the various other things they are considering.

  • Cliff

    “Very high. Very, very high,” he said, saying he puts the odds at 75-80%.
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    Forgive me if I am skeptical.

  • FlownOver

    KT –

    This kind of coverage is exactly what we need, with a focus on the substance of proposals rather than endless halltalk about strawman opposition and insider process details. It’s tough for the public to consider, formulate and express knowledgeable positions when no one knows what the actual issue are.
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    Thank you.

  • 53_3

    It reads like just another taxation shell game, with nothing else to offer.
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    What one doesn’t see here is that the middle class taxes, I think would rise significantly. It’s not very hard to figure that one out.
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    The $10k to $12k that employers pay would now become taxable income.
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    Of course, the highest quartile, who can easily afford this shell game would get off with little impact on their checks, and again, the Republicans would have done nothing but shift the burden of paying for the uninsured to the middle income taxpayer in a way that would also shift some of the overhead for businesses onto their shoulders too.
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    This is typical stuff for them. No wonder they couldn’t say the words “middle class”…

  • 53_3

    I might add that really, it doesn’t even really address the 47 million uninsured, because they’ve already dropped out due to the inability to pay for health insurance, or as of now, are being dropped off of state subsidized health care plans because of the recession.
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    Also, let’s stop talking about “47 million”. It should be quite a bit more due to the cuts mentioned above. The state of Washington is only one state of many who have cut their SHC rolls.
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    Tax credits do absolutely nothing for those who can’t afford it. Absolutely nothing!
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    It’s time to peel away that mythology as well.

  • ademption

    Thanks for the update, Karen. It’s been quite riveting to hear about Baucus’ confidence that healthcare reform was going to pass this year over the past few weeks. He said last week that he believed that he has at least 70 votes to pass healthcare reform. With the release of the Coburn-Ryan (Patient Choice Act) bill yesterday, I’m going to guess that Baucus is actually low-balling that 70 vote figure and probably will ultimately get 80 votes for a healthcare reform bill this summer. Now I’m sure that a lot of people won’t like it, b/c the Wyden-Bennett bill w/o a public option will pass, but I don’t think Baucus (or the rest of the Senate) cares. Baucus has been sounding too confident lately to think that healthcare reform won’t pass this year. I figure that Baucus et al will try to pass Wyden-Bennett in June before most of the public catches on….

    That’s my prediction and I’m sticking to it until I’m proved wrong….

  • ademption

    Centfan, you asked the following:
    How does that work? If a doctor’s patients aren’t dropping like flies then he gets more money than the “bad” doctor? Is that like points on a traffic ticket?

    Ademption: I’m guessing that you were asking about how doctors will be paid based on quality. I believe that Baucus is talking about paying doctors, particularly primary doctors, for performance. Primary practictioners would be paid a bonus if they could improve the conditions of their chronic patients. For instance, if a primary doctor could convince their diabetic patient to lose weight or their patient with high cholesterol could get off a statin, then the doctor would get a bonus reward for achieving that goal. It’s just a way to improve the salaries of primary practitioners….

  • stuartzechman

    Thanks so much for coverage of the important, KT.

  • brittanicus

    We all want a better health system, preferably based on the European single payer, that covers Doctor visits, surgery, teeth and eye care, without the nefarious impediment of premiums, co-pays–anything to fill the wealthiest coffers of the Insurance companies. But we certainly cannot afford Universal health care, if taxpayers have to add illegal aliens to the citizen and legal resident pool of a government medical care. If parasite businesses who hire illegal immigrant are caught, they should be forced to pay for the health care, education, taxes and all free benefits.

  • cidelson

    It’s disingenous for the Senator to say single payer does not focus enough on quality of care. The biggest obstacle to quality care is the bottom line focus of the insurance industry which prevents people with private insurance from getting medical treatment, referrals, proper diagnoses, and other care recommended by their doctor that their insurance company won’t pay for because it cuts into their profits.

    What single payer promotes is a single standard of quality care for everyone — where you are able to obtain the care you need, not just the care you can afford, or that your insurance company allows you to get.

    Charles Idelson
    California Nurses Association

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  • huidel

    Because Baucus gets a lot of money from the health insurance industry he isn’t about to let them suffer. Individual mandate, like in the Mass. plan, is a hand-off for more profits for the insurance industry. Karen Ignani, Health Insurance Industry spokeswoman has already stated that people who need more care will pay more than those who don’t.
    To let the undocumented use the ER for primary care is not only expensive but immoral. Has Baucus ever sat in an ER for 10-12 hours waiting for care when he’s ill?
    Doctors and nurses have been shut out by Baucus. Why? Because the stories of what we see on a daily basis would influence the Senators to vote for Single Payer, the only affordable, fair, cost-savings system. If undocumented folks work they will have to pay into the system just like all other employees. And to say that Single Payer doesn’t care about quality of care, just look at the language in our Calif. SP bill. When the insurance bureaucrats stop telling doctors how to practice medicine the quality of care will automatically go up. Watch the Bill Moyer’s special aired Friday night, 5/22, on Single Payer on his website and see why 60% of the public and doctors now realize it’s the only life-, and cost-savings proposal.

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