Still Waiting on NY-20

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NjUwYWJmMTRjNDNlOWYyMTVhNTFiOGFjMWJhYTJkZWQ=
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What is it about Dems and absentee military ballots?

What is it about throwing turds in hopes that some will stick to the wall?

PD, are you saying that the problems outlined in the article I linked aren’t problematic? Are they not relevant to this blogpost. You’re an ass.

What is it about circus clowns and Volkswagens?

What is it about Germans and prophylactics?

What is it about Bill O’Reilly and chyrons?

spob not to belittle your concern about military mail infringing the voting rights of military personnel, but why do you direct your anger about this at PD, I don’t hear you throwing a fit at the private contractors that fail to get the mail here on time. You people really need to make up your mind, either private industry is better than government or its not, before military mail was outsourced the time allotted for absentee ballots seemed to be enough.

OK, Amy Sullivan, now that I’ve jacked up your thread count, will you interact with your commenters? Thought not.

Just FYI
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http://news.findlaw.com/prnewswire/20090326/26mar20091805.html
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And PD thats just what people do who are desperate for attention. Like the monkeys at the zoo.

And what is it about the Bush Administration and torture? I just don’t understand why the two always seem to be connected.

And what is it about Barbara Bush being on the dollar bill?

Sg, read the NR article–the charge is that the consent decree didn’t do enough.
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And no Dee, you stupid idiot, you f’in idiot, military absentee voters have been getting screwed for a long time. Remember, Florida 2000, when “patriotic” Dems were challenging military absentee ballots because the military had not done a postage stamp and other BS crap relating to when the guys received their ballots, or have you forgotten about that? Military absentee voters getting screwed was a big f’in deal in Florida. Dems fought to disqualify ballots–that’s a matter of public record, and it was shameful. And take a look at what was going on in Pennsylvania in 2004.

Getting mail to ships at sea etc. is a difficult difficult challenge, and I can speak from personal f’in experience that it takes time, and 25 days is not f’in enough, you idiot. The bottom line is that Dems voted to make it more difficult rather than less difficult for military voters to be heard, you stupid wench. That’s your party, not mine. And your attempt to shift the blame from careerists at Justice and the slimeball dems on the election board is pathetic and shows that you are a stupid ideologue.
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And perhaps Dee, you f’in moron, you would see that my response to PD was for him stating that my post was flinging a turd. I get to respond in kind, you idiot. Do the world a favor, dummy, keep your yap shut, as you reduce the collective knowledge of the world every time you open your mouth.

The deparmet of Justice sues in order to override the 2 Democrats who are apparently solely responsible for the problem, and a National review contibuter brags about how much better he would have done it. And we’re suppose to condemn all Democrats based on that?
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I stand by my assertion. spob throws turds and hopes they stick. He also never addresses any post that demonstrates when he’s spreading lies.

Do the world a favor, dummy, keep your yap shut, as you reduce the collective knowledge of the world every time you open your mouth.

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Dee is rubber and you are glue. It bounces off her and sticks to YOU!

What’s pathetic is that it took spooge 28 minutes to come up with that post.

I get to respond in kind, you idiot.
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Actually, no, you don’t. But keeping making amusement for the rest of us, by all means.

PD, you really are f’in stupid aren’t you. This is not an isolated incident, see, e.g., Florida 2000 and Pa. 2004. DOJ went for wet noodle enforcement. And I notice that the Dem candidate for Congress didn’t call off the dogs either.
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And you guys defend this crap?

“you stupid idiot” “you f’in idiot” “you idiot” ” you are a stupid ideologue” “you f’in moron” “you idiot” “dummy”
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And SG has the temerity to suggest republicans are like monkeys flinging poo.

Sometimes, Paul, calling them as I see ‘em gets that. Look how utterly stupid Dee’s response was. She attempts to shift the blame to military contractors when Dems fought to make it harder for military guys to vote. That’s stupid and obnoxious, hence the response. Or are you too stupid to pick up on Dee’s idiocy.

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/justice-sues-new-york-over-military-voters-2009-03-24.html
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Murphy’s campaign was quick with its own vote of approval for the suit.
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“Scott Murphy wants to ensure every vote counts in this special election, especially the votes of our fighting men and women in uniform overseas. Scott supports any action to ensure their votes are counted,” spokesman Ryan Rudominer said.

Please go back to the my comment about things you will never see trolls say. I am telling you it will save you some key strokes!

Paul D
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Thats not just any Corner contributer. Thats the guy who tried to disenfranchise black voters in Georgia by requiring photo ID to vote. And he was also Bush’s interim FEC guy. Definitely not somebody whose word you should just take as unbiased or even credible.

God, SG, you are gulllible aren’t you. There’s a difference between bowing to the inevitable wet noodle treatment (me tooism without suffering any consequences) and pushing hard for every military voter to get a fair chance at having his vote heard.
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And voter ID is racist now? Ok, gotcha SG.

By the way did yall realize that the Republican who opposed Quigly to try to get Rahm’s old seat actually used to be a blogger for free republic? Yeah they found some of her old posts and it needless to say it was ridiculous. Major racist and xenophobe. But the best part of the story is you have to remember that she actually WON A REPUBLICAN PRIMARY just to get to face Quigly in the general. That tells you that the Republicans are truly plumbing the bottom of the barrel these days.

Who cares about some fringe GOP person running in a 90% dem district in Chicago?

Aren’t all GOP people fringe?

…..Who cares about some fringe GOP person running in a 90% dem district in Chicago?

The GOP should care that the race is so close in a GOP district (NY-20). The GOP has become the party of Limbaugh, Tammy Bruce, Michelle Bachmann and Glenn Beck. Nationally the GOP will be in the 25-25% approval range.

sacredh
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More and more each day…

I focus on sacreh’s comment at my site’s noontime offering.

spob I’m not an idiot, stupid or otherwise. Perhaps you should consider that this terminology is better suited to describe your arguments that tend to run personal whenever it doesn’t follow your linear thinking.
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I simply questioned why your anger at injustice seems to be reserved for the nearest liberal target. As I noted from the outset, your concern was not illegitimate but it seemed to neglect the inefficiency of a system that put the voting rights of military personnel in jeopardy in the first place.
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How many diatribes have we been forced to endure (or at least scroll pass) lamenting the inability of government services, I believe just yesterday you were harping on the possibility of government run health care for the elderly (I believe you had to be reminded that it already existed and was very popular and called Medicare).
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So tell me when you’re busy harping all over Obama’s justice department for not ensuring that every military ballot is counted should we also have questions for your beloved private industry — as it appears that this was not an issue, or at least not one that your side made an issue of before mail services were privatized.

Dee
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spob is genetically incapable of complex thought. Think Glenn Beck, Michelle Bachmann, etc.

Dee, no one really knew about military absentee ballots until Florida. I always assumed that mine were counted–i was probably wrong. And I was in before the privatization of mail delivery. Mail took a long time. That’s the way it was, and that’s the way it will be.
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(And I wasn’t harping on anything about government run healthcare.) The point is, of course, is that your point is a red herring. Whether or not the military mail system is perfect, election officials should be making it more likely, rather than less likely, that military voters’ get to exercise their franchise, and when some “patriotic” Dems try to make it harder and when careerist DOJ employees (not known for GOP leanings) sign off on some time frame that is simply not enough to ensure that these votes will be counted, the issue is not the efficiency of the mail service.
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We all saw what was going on in Florida in 2000. It shined a spotlight on an issue that was probably in existence for a while. And Dems in Florida fought tooth and nail to exclude military absentee ballots on issues that were no fault of the serviceman. You know it, and I know it, dummy. So you can take this statement: “. . . .as it appears that this was not an issue, or at least not one that your side made an issue of before mail services were privatized.” and stick it.
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You know this crap is indefensible. Yet you soldier on. More “reality” from the “reality based community”.

What does SPOB stand for anyway?

Should Piss On Bush?
Small Panties OverBunched?
Strange Post-Op Bedwetter?

Wow this looks really bad for the Dems. Just 3 months into a Dem Administration and already the outlying Representative seats are in danger of falling. Dang. So much for Democrat Majority in 2010.
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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Nice joke, Rusty. How’s the medication? You might need to up the dose when Franken is seated. And did I mention that Bunning is doomed?

careerist DOJ employees (not known for GOP leanings)
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Red herrings much?
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You have no clue who’s involved at DOJ and you don’t have any interest. It’s all just “dems.”

rusty
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You predicted a McCain/Palin victory.
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Right now a House seat that should easily be in the GOP’s hands is heavily contested in NY.
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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Spob — See that’s what I mean, there is no point in talking to you because your only objective is to nail a Democratic target you have no interest in the truth.
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Where is your outrage against the GOP for fighting against the voting rights act? Where is your outrage against the Republican Senate or Governor of NY that failed to address your issue since 2000 and could have easily fought on the side of extending the time frame for absentee ballots?
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Now admittedly, there’s been a Democratic Governor since 2007 but still where is your anger for your own people who only focus on this issue when there is a GOP seat at stake?
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The reason you have little or no credibility on this issue is because the GOP has done everything in its power including fire US attorneys who won’t trump up charges against organizations fighting to increase voter participation, implementing procedures that disenfranchise certain segments of the population that tend not to vote Republicans and engage in dirty tricks like voter intimidation and purging voter rolls etc.
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And before you say that I have no concern for the military, which has happened just yesterday know that my dad fought in WWII even though he was a second class citizen in the US. I have a brother who volunteered for the army (not drafted) after he graduated from college not to pay for it, another brother and first cousin who lived with us like a brother that gave at the air force, a brother-in-law in the navy and a vet ex-husband and at this very moment I have a niece in the army stateside and a nephew in harms way in the gulf. I come from what you call a military family and BTW none of us voted for McCain who would gladly send us to war but opposed the new GI bill.
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Oh yeah one more thing, when your side advocates for privatizing government services you often say things like you don’t want your health care run like the post office — please remember that the post office adds veterans a number of extra points on the test so they get preferential hiring, so every time you slam the post office please remember that they are disproportionately made up of last years troops.

themaverickformerlyknownasbasilbrush:
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I think it’s short for “Sponge Bob”.
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You know, the square pants guy…

Dee, you are throwing out red herrings. Get that part right.
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http://lifestyle.msn.com/your-life/living-green/articlepm.aspx?cp-documentid=17196281

To brighten everyone’s day.

FYI, remember, now, that Obama is “antireligious” according to Newt (the Six Million Dollar Cancer Victim Hater) Gingrich.
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Not so, accoring to the largest church in the country:
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/04/08/lkl.osteens/index.html
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Seems to me that the GOP sediment being deposited above the election, er, extinction horizon is ‘normally sorted’*, as expected.
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*Heavy stuff drops first, light stuff last

“Dee, you are throwing out red herrings. Get that part right.”
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What am I supposed to get right exactly?
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That I don’t have to stick to your parameters during the course of a debate?
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That I can call question the lies that you substitute for facts and not worry about the personal attacks that are sure to follow?
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You like to call me stupid or charge me with putting up straw men and red herrings, but you never actually answer the questions I pose. I do hope the next time you decide that you and your ilk are the only ones that have a military perspective, or that everyone else is unpatriotic — you might stop yourself and acknowledge that you have no clue about the sacrifices others may have made for their country.

53_3 Says:
Wednesday, April 8, 2009 at 4:30 pm
themaverickformerlyknownasbasilbrush:
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I think it’s short for “Sponge Bob”.
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You know, the square pants guy…

That seems an intellectual level too far for SPOB.

Dee, I did address your “why didn’t others bring this up” point. The issue of military voters has been around since 2000. Before that, there simply wasn’t an election that was so close and where it got litigated to the hilt. Since then, Dems have not exactly been enthusiastic about military absentee ballots–surprise surprise. For you to try to push this off on privatization of the military mail system (with no evidence whatsoever that it’s slower than before) or nameless GOP people who didn’t deal with the issue in 2007 (remember, this is a special election) is laughable. And disingenuous and stupid. I haven’t lied in here, ever.
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And get this right, I served 5 1/2 years in the US Navy. And I certainly think that I’ve earned the right to call those slimeball Dem election trolls “unpatriotic”. I also have earned the right to call all those bastards who disenfranchised military voters in 2000 “unpatriotic”.

And before you say that I have no concern for the military, which has happened just yesterday know that my dad fought in WWII even though he was a second class citizen in the US. I have a brother who volunteered for the army (not drafted) after he graduated from college not to pay for it, another brother and first cousin who lived with us like a brother that gave at the air force, a brother-in-law in the navy and a vet ex-husband and at this very moment I have a niece in the army stateside and a nephew in harms way in the gulf. I come from what you call a military family and BTW none of us voted for McCain who would gladly send us to war but opposed the new GI bill.
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That looks suspiciously like an ass kicking to me.

“And I certainly think that I’ve earned the right to call those slimeball Dem election trolls “unpatriotic”.”
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Really now?
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Everyone has that right, spob. But. But! But!
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Do you even know what is good for the country?
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Do you even know what patriotism is?
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Hell, for that matter, do you even know what any of us think?

53_3 makes the point ALL Americans have the right to question someone’s patriotism.
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When a CIA agent is outed for political purposes we can question an administration’s patriotism.
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When a Justice Department hires incompetent lawyers and fires Attorneys General who will not participate in a political witch hunt, the patriotism of DOJ officials can be questioned.
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When the GOP continues to engage in practices geared to disenfranchising certain ethnic groups, we can question patriotism.
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When an ex-Vice President gives aid and comfort to the enemy by criticizing a sitting President, we can question patriotism. (Hanoi Cheney).

When someone like Timothy McVeigh who served in the military feels justified in blowing up a building because the country is not headed in the direction McVeigh wants, we certainly question McVeigh’s patriotism.

When rusty HOPES that the country fails, because, rusty is disappointed in how other Americans voted, we can question rusty’s patriotism.

spob — see that’s the problem, you don’t understand the question. The votes in Ohio 2004 were pretty close but I didn’t hear anyone from your side complaining about Ken Blackwell the Republican Secretary of State who deliberately tried to disenfranchise voters or are the only voters who count are the ones who vote like you?
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My question was, if military voting rights is such a big deal for the GOP why did they not pursue a fix after 2000? Why in every state where they had GOP leadership was this not a hot button issue? Is it possible that the only reason this issue was a big deal is because the presidency was on the line and once they got the Supremes to give them the presidency in 2000 they no longer cared?
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By your own admission the GOP had an opportunity after 2000 to fix the problem but didn’t and it only came up again in 2008 because once against they needed these votes to win a specific seat.
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Now, the only reason I brought up the privatization aspect is because its a question. If military ballots are really important to you shouldn’t you investigate every avenue? Also you don’t seem to acknowledge that when you disparage the post office in your diatribes against government services that they disproportionately hire former military personnel.
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And no 5 1/2 years in the navy does not give you the right to decide who is patriotic, because you are in essence calling the Democratic members of my family most of whom have spent far more time in service than you unpatriotic.
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Also I don’t believe that you even spent time in the military because I rarely hear any member of the military refer to civilians they’ve sworn to protect, let alone the commander and chief the way you do. You sound more like the militia wannabees who read Tom Clancy novels and think that makes them able to identify with the soldiers experience.

……Also I don’t believe that you even spent time in the military because I rarely hear any member of the military refer to civilians they’ve sworn to protect, let alone the commander and chief the way you do. You sound more like the militia wannabees who read Tom Clancy novels and think that makes them able to identify with the soldiers experience.
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Ouch

It’s amazing to watch this race. It really shows that the power of small is alive and well in politics. A great exercise in democracy, we’re reminded every vote really does count!

Really, this just feels like a contest to see who can out-ad-hominem the other.

cw I agree! Even if it’s just a special election, it’s nice to see one come down to the wire every once in a while. I like my elections just like I like my football games.

apollyon07
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I think you’re seeing a response to eight years of having one side of a political argument type in caps, question patriotism, and on occasion just make stuff up.
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When a person is called an idiot, there is likely to be a response in kind.
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When Conservatives can argue that an increase in defense spending by the Obama administration is slashing the defense budget and the charge is taken as gospel by the MSM, people may have little tolerance for Conservative exaggeration. The last GW Bush defense budget was $513 billion. The Obama defense budget is $534 billion.
Because Conservatives yell, a lie is reported as fact.
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http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/04/media-reports-major-defense-budget-cuts-as-obama-proposes-increase-in-defense-budget.php
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If you are conversing with a Glenn Beck, Michelle Bachmann,or Ann Coulter, you may have to raise your voice on occasion to be heard.

rmrd, the liberal playbook is being followed, portray less than anticipated increases as “cuts”, and now you guys are getting religion?
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Blackwell didn’t try to disenfranchise anyone–why is protecting the integrity of the ballot box now called “disenfranchisement”?

As a lifelong resident of Ohio, our take was that Blackwell WAS trying to disenfranchise minority voters. Protecting the integrity of the ballot box wasn’t the goal. Delivering Ohio for the republicans was the intent. In 2008, even our Bible Belt state coundn’t stand the thought of another republican in the White House. Sorry for 2004. I don’t know what the hell my state was thinking.

spob
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You are admitting that there was actually an increase in defense spending. Thanks for your honesty. Even Republican William Cohen, a former Sec of Defense had to correct MSNBC today when an anchor talked abut “cuts”. Your bottom line seems to be that a increase in spending is not a cut if a Republican is in office, but it can be called a cut if it’s a Democratic administration.
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http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/04/msnbc-reports-defense-cuts-guest-corrects-record.php
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Regarding voter fraud, I had the Attorney Generals fired by Gonzales in mid. Failure to track down bogus voter fraud cases was a factor in the firings.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/13/AR2007051301106.html

rmrd, if you think for a second that there is not significant voter fraud in America, you’re nuts. There is. Felons vote illegally; aliens vote illegally. It happens, and unfortunately, it is very difficult to prove. The Washington gubernatorial election was a stellar example.
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And come on, rmrd, that “cuts” stuff is right out of the liberal playbook . . . . Now libs are upset that conservatives are using one of their plays. Cry me a river.

spob
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Typical Conservative thought process, there just has to be voter fraud. It’s only that you just can’t prove voter fraud. The voter fraud cases that did go forward, urged on by Gonzales and company were dismissed. In your mind, there is no GOP voter suppression of ethnic groups, but there are ethnic voters casting illegal votes. You are free to your opinion. But, the courts find your opinion to be in error. How many voter fraud cases were prosecuted or are currently active?
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On the point about the increase in the defense budget put forth by the Obama administration, you are upset that I want an increase to be called an increase.
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You are upset because things are not going your way. That is why you have to resort word like “nuts”. It is reflective of a limited vocabulary. The only thing that I have been calling you is a Conservative. I’m sorry that you find the term Conservative so offensive that you respond with “nuts”. It would be nice if Conservatives had some actual facts to back up their beliefs. Instead we are told that significant voter fraud exists, it’s really bad, but the courts just can’t prove that it exists.