Hangin’ with Mrs. Obama

Maybe Mrs. Obama could tell them about whether she passed the Illinois bar on the first go-round . . . .

Think globally – act locally.
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And ignore the turdwhirlers….

It’s refreshing to have a first family that likes and comes from cities.

“Maybe Mrs. Obama could tell them about whether she passed the Illinois bar on the first go-round.”
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You know spob — I don’t tend to agree with right wing policies and clearly I have even less respect for right-wing political tactics. However, it would never occur to me to express those feelings by attacking Laura Bush — what is your problem?

Maybe Michelle can replace Geithner atr Treasury since she’s so freakin’ popular…

http://www.political-buzz.com/

It’s funny when Obama made a joke about Nancy Reagan’s propensity to conduct white house seances (which is clearly a subject worthy of ridicule), he recognized that he had made fun of a right wing icon and apologized for his insensitivity. Yet, right wingers have no compunction about insulting Michelle Obama, despite her iconic status for millions of Americans.
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That’s the problem with the right wing, they have no concept of reciprocity. They like to complain about their leaders, policies and ideas are dismissed, yet that are unable to see that this is exactly what they do everyday.
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The question has been asked of Republicans before but they have yet to supply a satisfactory answer so I’ll try once again: Have you no decency?

What did you think it meant? a few Barbara Bush style photo ops?

Dee, the Republicans are busy fighting against the imposition of a global currency, the Fairness Doctrine and mandatory gay marriage, so I will answer for them: No, they have no decency. Decency is a talking point.

hellslittlestangel — thanks because clearly the only answer I’m going to get is from you. Now I finally get why conservatives reject evolution. It’s not because they believe in God, despite their claims. It’s because the theory of evolution is based on the premise that either one adapts or face extinction. The GOP can’t adapt if they can’t learn from their mistakes and change, so rather than face the inevitable they deny that evolution is real:
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1) Hoover 1929 crash the fundamentals of the economy are sound — John McCain 2008 the fundamentals of the economy are strong.
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2)1933 GOP call for a spending freeze FDR relents and the economy crashes again
2009 GOP calls for a spending freeze.
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3) Hoover 1950′s Senator McCarthy unAmerican activities committee — commie with hunt
2008 Congresswoman Bachmann the media should conduct a hunt for Congress members engaged in unAmerican activities.

spob Says:
Wednesday, April 8, 2009 at 5:26 pm
Maybe Mrs. Obama could tell them about whether she passed the Illinois bar on the first go-round . .
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Actually spob, I am pretty sure she passed the bar because she eventually worked for ACORN, and I do believe that is where she and Obama first hooked up. Right?
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I suppose while she is planting this token and old school “Victory” garden ala , she might plant a few ACORNS in the back of the White House to have a great ACORN oak tree!! Imagine that!!
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The President calls for Victory Gardens…

http://markmaynard.com/?p=4268
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I think if I remember my grandpappy sayin’, “ol’ Ms Truman had her negros gettin in the dirt to plant that garden in the back of the White House. She didn’t like to get dirt on her hands, not when she had a whole house full of negros to do it for her”.

rusty well there you go, now that you’ve gotten it off your chest we can all get what all the vitriol is about. You’re pissed off because when you look into the mirror on the wall of your double wide you finding it more difficult to get your kids to believe that you’re at least better than the Negroes.

Will Amy Sullivan and Time magazine be able to contain their glee when Michelle Obama begins to conduct same-sex “marriages” in the White House with unrepentant terrorist and dear friend William Ayers officiating?

What’s next? Will Amy Sullivan orgasmically allege that Michelle “For the first time in my adult life, I am proud of my country” Obama supports the United States military?

I’d love to see Michelle Obama as a great humanitarian force. For instance, it would be great if she could vouch for an increase in our foreign aid budget. The Borgen Project has good info on the estimated cost of ending global poverty:

$30 billion: Annual shortfall to end world hunger.

$550 billion: U.S. Defense budget.

Better than you do textee, because you and your friends right wing crazies don’t represent the military. The vets I know would never talk to woman publicly in such a vulgar and disrespectful manner.
Perhaps you missed that chapter in Tom Clancy latest novel. And over the last eight years the GOP hasn’t done one thing to keep rank and file families off of food stamps.

Dee
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Seriously why do you keep wasting your time? I mean damn its pretty obvious that you will never have any effect. That means the only two sane options are to ignore or deride. Reasoning is futile.

SG — just bored, practicing my Mavis Bacon typing skills.

FWIW, sg, going with “deride” just before lunch provided me with an entire day’s entertainment.

Friar Tuck
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Oh I am all for deriding. Or just throwing an anger bomb in their direction and just watching their heads explode.
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Like if I were to repeat the rumor that Laura Bush gave Colin Powell smoking head while Shrub watched.
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DUCK!

when Michelle Obama begins to conduct same-sex “marriages” in the White House
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I wish you guys could hear me laughing right now.

Actually on my last real estate tax assessment it was $450k, Ms Dee, but hey, who is counting here?
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Actually, my “vitriol” has everything to do with disrespect. The complete and utterly vile disrespect that is played out here day after day about our, yes our last President.
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All the Bush bashing that continues from the Obama / Clinton primary hasn’t stopped. Even today, may have been yesterday, VP Biden continues to bash the Bush Administration. Today, Amy Sullivan writes a blog stating “Quote of the day…George W. Bush is just kicking himself for not using that little gem in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina”.
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I am some how missing the joke here. So, the ropes have been unleashed on Swampland. All bets are off as they say. Let the Obama bashing begin.
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Or, in a dire time of Crisis when millions upon millions of Americans are out of work, wondering where they will get their next dime from, those of us who are fortunate could “respect” each other and give them a hand up. But no, the liberals want to continue Bush bashing. I guess it was so much fun during the election, why stop now. Right?
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I for one would like to see the days shortly after 9/11 come back, when we all stood proud together as Americans, once again. But, my faith in that thought will be perverted by the likes of most of the liberals on this site.
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As they say, if you can’t beat them, join them. I can bash back as hard as anyone on here.
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Did you see the video yet of Obama, subserviant to the King of Saudi Arabia yet? That is going viral on all the Repub blogs. Bowing to the MUSLIM King of Saudia Arabia. An American President no less. I guess the Chinese told him no more money. Now he is gong to hit the ole King up for a few TRILLION to spend.

“I am some how missing the joke here.”
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On that we can all agree.
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BHO is so gay for the King he held his hand and walked him back to his private home for who knows what! No wait that Bush.

Yeah Bush and the Republicans had SO much respect for our veterans
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http://www.salon.com/news/special/coming_home/2009/04/08/tape/index.html
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Its phucking reprehensible that our VA screwed over veterans who returned home from combat with PTSD. But check this out, the trolls won’t mind because it happened under Bush’s watch. But let it happen under Obama’s watch and they will sh*t a brick. And the end it will prove yet again that Rethugs don’t really care about our men and women in the military unless they can use them to score cheap political points.

I think that Michelle Obama will appeal to most Americans the way Laura Bush did, except for the most partisan. She’s very real and down to earth. I’m grateful she’s not wearing red-carpet worthy clothes, but clothes I’d wear. The garden idea is a good one, too. Gardens are what saved my grandparents’ generation when they were young. Younger generations may have lost that. The job of the First Lady as I understand it is to identify your passion and use your influence to use that passion for good. Michelle Obama is doing that.

‘All the Bush bashing that continues from the Obama / Clinton primary hasn’t stopped. Even today, may have been yesterday, VP Biden continues to bash the Bush Administration.”
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Rusty-And Bush never did anything to deserve the bashing he receives Rusty. Give me a friggin break. Bush is the reason why this country fines itself in the position it does today. He was a complete and utter failure. Period. And while he wasn’t alone in causing this mess because he had a lot of help from weak a@@ democrats (like Pelois and Reid and Daschle and Clinton and Obama, he was the commander in chief and if you want to give him credit for keeping us safe then you have to acknownledge that keeping our finances safe was not his strong suit. And he failed.
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Now Bush is in Dallas living the friggin life while hardworking Americans are losing everything and you want everyone to ease up on this motherfu@ker. Fu@k you!

Rick Sanchez and CNN are pretty irresponsible.
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http://crooksandliars.com/john-amato/cnns-rick-sanchez-slams-fox-news-fearm-0

No worries gunny, Howie Kurtz will correct that.

This isn’t really Amy’s bag but I just saw that Joe’s friend Pete Hoekstra is trying to add a new “right to spank” amendment to the constitution.

Let ‘em rant. It just confirms the growing public recognition of the wingnuts’ total incompetence and incredibility. We’re already to the point that nobody’s taking spob seriously except rusty.

Michelle = Den Mother in Chief. You gotta love her!

You know, I think I’ve figured it out. I think I get why the right wing is doing all they can to make the country hate Obama. It has nothing to do with their fear of him failing. It’s the fact that he is succeeding. He is more or less single-handedly destroying their dominant power structure for the past thirty years. It’s the last desperate gasps of a discredited philosophy. The more Obama does to change the course of the country the more they see themselves slipping from both power and relevance. And they have no clear course to get back into power, so their other course is scorched earth. They will destroy ALL they can just to stop his success. They would rather see a 50% employment rate, soup lines, virtually no health care, infrastructure completely destroyed, all in their quest to regain power. Looking at it like that, it makes sense, and at the same time it’s sad. I’m just grateful Obama is such a good three-dimensional chess player that he’s two steps ahead of, well everyone. He’s aggravated me (some of the recent DOJ decisions just make me want to rip my hair out) but all in all I’m still behind him.

I don’t care at all about news/information on the First Lady, no matter who it is. I think news like this borders on fluff, I’d much rather hear about more substantive issues. Therefore, I think it’s pretty asinine to attack the First Lady.
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Off subject, but I saw up above something about McCarthy’s Communist witch hunt. Though it wasn’t readily apparent, loads of those accused and investigated by McCarthy have been proven to have been red spies. The Venona Project and other things have vindicated much of what he did/was trying to do. The depth of Soviet espionage in the U.S. back then is quite shocking.

“I just didn’t know that meant she’d be inviting a bunch of elementary school kids over to the house once a month.”

Sullivan – maybe you are trying to be facetious and a little too cute with that sentence – but I think really what you’re doing is just being an a$$hole.

It amazes me that this is the best line you can come up with.

Imagine the utter GALL of a political figure, a First Lady no less, who actually follows through with the substance behind the initial photo op. Just imagine Michelle Obama’s chutzpah for actually giving a $hit about the kids she invited to the ground-breaking.

Even if you are in fact just trying to be a little snarky, it speaks volumes about what you really think.

You people in the traditional media are so freakin’ retarded.

apollyon07
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Uhmmmm are you coming out in support of Joe McCarthy?

You know, you guys shouldn’t act so surprised. At the righty blog I read, even though the climate isn’t the same as here, the average internet IQ of the conservatives is well above most of the liberals. It just happens when you have a base/troll relationship. Since this is a slightly left blog with quite a lefty readership, you’re going to get the same thing.
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Rusty et. al., you guys technically aren’t true trolls, but you seem to be doing a lot of recycling. I guess the reason you post here is to at least persuade some people of the merits of your case, or maybe just to get into a feel good “moonbat beatdown” of some sort (used to do something like that, not anymore). The thing is, though, you guys are getting nowhere.
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Let’s leave the Ayers/Wright stuff in the dust. One, it’s irresponsible to talk about it so long after the campaign, for the simple reason that neither Ayers or Wright have contact or dealings with the White House now. It simply doesn’t matter. Two, Obama has way bigger issues than that now. The world is jerking his chain, especially Pakistan as of late, and those are tangible issues that we can actually analyze instead of ejecting conspiracy theories about his middle name, his birthplace, his tenuous associations, etc…
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rusty, just take the Muslim angle you’re pursuing. We should be saying Obama’s American apologies are objectionable, not that he’s suddenly unveiled his true Muslim colors. Why? Simply because the latter is RIDICULOUS and untenable.

Yeah, apollyon, a source would be really interesting.

yoshi
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I have a feeling that apollyon’s source is Ann Coulter but I would love to be proved wrong.

Gee, I am sorry I offended your sensibilities for attacking the saint’s wife. I tend to dislike people who say that they are only proud of this country because their husband is doing well politically. I also tend to dislike people who call Americans ignorant because the lunch tables in college cafeterias may be somewhat self-segregated. When people say things like that, asking about whether they passed the bar on the first try doesn’t seem all that bad.
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Yoshia, we shouldn’t leave the Ayers stuff or the Wright stuff. Bottom line, that tells me a lot about the morality of that person. Obama thought nothing of making common cause with a terrorist scum like Ayers. He also thought nothing of exposing his kids to trite racist nonsense spouted by Wright.

“I’m just grateful Obama is such a good three-dimensional chess player that he’s two steps ahead of, well everyone.”
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all I can say is “wow”.

If apollyon7 should ever come back here is some information on the “vindication” of Joe McCarthy
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http://www.johnearlhaynes.org/page62.html

Hmm SG shows up and then…

http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2009/04/white_house_wont_bow_to_realit.asp
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Can’t they just tell the truth? And Joe McCarthy was right . . . . Coulter’s book is well-sourced, and when the archives of the USSR were opened, it proved people like Alger Hiss were f’in traitor scum.
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Jack Kennedy said it best, didn’t he?

PNNTO
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Should I just start commenting? Hell I keep telling everybody to ignore the riff raff and they will go away but nobody wants to listen to me. If nobody shows them attention, which is all they are really looking for, they will move on.

I was just messing around SG.
More to mock the spob, as I’m sure you know.

PNNTO
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I know but its like lately we end up focusing more on trolls than actual substantive conversation lately and its a little frustrating. Especially when we don’t get posts in Swampland that are talking about the major stories of the day. Instead it turns into a poo flinging contest and I am just hoping at some point it ends. There is a big difference between someone you disagree with and someone who is here solely to antagonize.

AS: “I just didn’t know that meant she’d be inviting a bunch of elementary school kids over to the house once a month.”
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Why, the very idea! Really, dahling, what will the neighbors––the Von Twitchetts and the Higgenbottoms say?? Not to mention the Wills and the Broders. I need smelling salts…

Cry me a river SG, you’re the one who thinks that racist six-on-one violence is acceptable, and we’re supposed to shut up because you are frustrated? Yeah right.
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With respect to Michelle’s bar passage on the first go-round, one would hope that she tells these students that hard work and good preparation will help you succeed in life and that making sure you pass tests the first time around is a big part of that.

spob, be that as it may (and I disagree with you, but not completely), intangibles like “morality” do not matter as much as hard facts. This is not a campaign anymore – McCain lost, Obama is the President, and we have to judge him on his RESULTS and not his public image. Otherwise, get a beach chair for the next eight years and watch the One do his work.

Sorry, yoshi, I don’t roll that way. While I agree that results matter, I also think that morality plays a huge role in getting to those results. Besides, I can point to a mountain of evidence that suggests that Obama is not even-handed when it comes to race. Why in the world should I not judge him on that?

One, it won’t get you very far, and two, unless you have secret surveillance in the Oval Office you can’t determine beyond conjecture exactly how Obama’s morality affects his decisions. That’s campaign stuff.
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Remember, the reason Ayers was a talking point was because McCain implied that “results may vary” due to Obama’s background. The focus was always on results. He’s being tested now – let’s pay more attention to that.
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Por ejemplo:
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http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/report-pakistan-rejects-u.s.-plan-wants-drones-2009-04-08.html
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uh oh

Speaking of results, this is OT, but interesting:
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http://www.popecenter.org/clarion_call/article.html?id=2155

I think Michelle’s goal is to show the public that the White House is THEIR house. It belongs to the people. Dubya lived with the fact that his White House was a fortress that protected him from the public. I liked Laura and thought she was a good First Lady. I like Michelle even more.

Here’s a question, Michelle Obama yapped on the campaign trail about self-segregation and how it meant that Americans were ignorant, well then why isn’t her outreach to a school in say, Appalachia vice DC?

spob, why are you so obsessed with Michelle Obama? What difference does it make if she passed the bar exam on the first try? Lots of people don’t. And have you never made an impromptu, off the cuff remark that you wished you could take back later because it didn’t reflect what you actually meant to say? Also, she lives in DC, it would be kind of hard for poor students from Appalachia to get to the White House on a regular basis, now wouldn’t it?

gingerpye, not sure that posting a few comments in a blog shows obsession . . . .
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Are you sure she didn’t mean that “proud” comment? She said it twice (once in Madison and once in Milwaukee) . . . . Or are you referring to the “ignorant” comment? With respect to the Appalachian kids, true enough, but that’s not really my point. Michelle Obama is on record yapping about self-segregation as indicative of “ignorance”, and now her outreach smacks of the same thing. It’s a fair question to ask, or do you disagree? And I don’t honestly see how you give Michelle Obama the benefit of the doubt either way . . . . She was obviously very very comfortable with Rev. Wright influencing her family. And the “ignorant” comment suggests a very nasty chip on her shoulder.

spob, I guess we’re both seeing what we want to see. I see a warm, caring person and you see a militant, “angry” (dare I say “black”) woman. I don’t think you’re trying to be objective though when you characterize her as “yapping” about something. That’s just petty disrespect.

ginger, when you lecture people and call them ignorant because there is some self-segregation in college cafeterias, I am going to call that “yapping”. And no, I don’t have a great deal of respect for Michelle Obama. I don’t consider her all that warm, and I have zero respect for someone who has the utter gall to criticize others for presumed self-segregation but who attended a church where the star attraction made anti-white diatribes. Now, Michelle may have thought that cute and hip, but there may be people in that congregation who actually took that crapola seriously. And my kids may have to deal with the results of that hatred, and let’s call it what it is, hatred. How much of a leap is it from “white folks’ greed runs a world in need” to taking stuff by force from some greedy white person? Not much.
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I mean, really, the gall of this woman. And you’re complaining about “petty disrespect”? Gimme a break.

I think we all can see where you’re coming from, spob. There’s no sense in trying to talk sense to you because you are blinded by hatred. Others have tried, I thought I would as well. No point to it.

Whatever, gingerpye, I suspect that you know you would have your head handed to you in a debate on this. If you cannot see the naked hypocrisy in someone who will gladly attend a church run by Reverend Wright but then call others “ignorant” because the cafeterias in colleges have some self-segregation, then you can call me a hater all you want. It’s a legitimate point. You know it; I know it.

One last thought, spob, and then I really am out of here. You need to calm down and not get so irritated about someone you don’t even know and who really has absolutely no effect on your life (Michelle Obama, Rev. Wright, whoever). I don’t think you need to worry about race riots anytime soon. I’d be more worried about right-wing militias myself. Save your vitriol for something that does affect you. If you continue to get so worked up about imaginary boogey-men you might stroke out.

gingerpye, once again, whatever, if you think for one second that preaching Wright’s brand of hate is poisonous and poses a threat to public safety, then you don’t know what you’re talking about. And the issue is not race riots, but crime. As for racist white groups, what is the most appalling feature of them (other than racist assaults) is that they teach this crap to their kids. But when Jeremiah Wright teaches hate it’s cool, ok gotcha. Would a black family be understandably hesitant to want to send their kids to school with kids who are indoctrinated in this crap–no. Well, guess what, I don’t particularly want my kids to have to go to school with kids indoctrinated by the likes of Wright. And I don’t really care what pinheads like you think about it. You and I both know that Michelle Obama’s hypocrisy on this point is telling. And if you want to avoid admitting that to yourself by calling me what you want to call me, then fine. But know this, you are an ignorant ideologue.

SG, I didn’t say that I’m 100% behind what McCarthy did, not everything he did was justified and I think he took it too far and had some faulty methods, but to say he was 100% wrong, while it goes with conventional wisdom, is just not true.
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The Venona project unmasked many Soviet spies that he was suspicious of. Some of these include: Alger Hiss, Julius Rosenberg (Ethel was inconclusive), Harry Dexter White, Donald Maclean and Guy Burgess (both of whom eventually fled to Russia). A huge example is that of the Treasury Department, which was riddled with spies. V. Frank Coe (cover name “Peak) and Harold Glasser (cover name “Ruble). Venona evidence shows that Glasser was a very valued agent, a pal of Alger Hiss who provided intel. to Soviet handlers, and did talent spotting for the Kremlin. As for Coe, he participated in similar activities, but most notably was heavily involved in blocking requested funds by the then anti-Red regime of China.
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Another good example is Lauchlin Currie (cover name “Page) who worked hard to torpedo efforts by the anti-Red force in China by conveying misinformation from Chungking, and also advancing the fortunes of Red forces in that country. Venona also reveals that in 1944 Currie told the KGB that President Roosevelt was willing to concede Soviet demands about the Polish-Russian border. This intel was invaluable to the Soviets, since it showed FDR breaking faith with the Polish government, who opposed the Soviet land grab. Thus the Soviets knew they did not need to fear a U.S. response when they dished the Poles. There are LOADS of more examples uncovered by Venona, these are just a few.
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Sources: http://origin.www.gpo.gov/congress/commissions/secrecy/pdf/12hist1.pdf
The American Experience, by Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan
Venona: Soviet Espionage and the American Response, 1937-1959 (published by NSC and CIA)
Also, anything about the Venona Project. Read about it.