Teleprompters, Persistence and A Defense of AIG FP

1. My story on last night’s press conference, “Obama’s Persistent Presser: Message Accomplished,” is here.

2. An employee from AIG FP speaks. And he has a point. As I have asked before, Where in the World is Joseph Cassano? He is, by most accounts, the guy who built the AIG bomb, while promising all the while that it would never go off. And here we all are raging at the employees he left behind.

3. I don’t really get all this gabbing about Obama and his teleprompter. Does anyone really doubt Obama’s ability to speak cogently and in detail without notes, after winning three presidential debates and slaying just about every press availability he gets? So he likes reading from a screen and not a piece of paper. But this whole line of attack, promoted widely by conservative blogs, sort of baffles me. And does anyone stop to think about how all this back and forth is effecting the feelings of the computer that powers Obama’s teleprompter? Well, I have, but that’s only because I have been reading the teleprompter’s blog and Twitter feed.

4. After the jump, take a read of Obama’s last answer at last night’s presser, in which the president pivots seamlessly from a question about Israel to a big closing thought. Pretty masterful, me thinks, and the teleprompter did not help at all.

QUESTION: Mr. President, you came to office pledging to work for peace between Israel and the Palestinians. How realistic do you think those hopes are now, given the likelihood of a prime minister who is not fully signed up to a two-state solution and a foreign minister who has been accused of insulting Arabs?

OBAMA: It’s not easier than it was, but I think it’s just as necessary.

We don’t yet know what the Israeli government is going to look like, and we don’t yet know what the future shape of Palestinian leadership is going to be comprised of. What we do know is this: that the status quo is unsustainable, that it is critical for us to advance a two-state solution where Israelis and Palestinians can live side by side in their own states with peace and security.

And by assigning George Mitchell the task of working as special envoy, what we’ve signaled is that we’re going to be serious from day one in trying to move the parties in a direction that acknowledges that reality.

How effective these negotiations may be, I think we’re going to have to wait and see. But, you know, we — we were here for St. Patrick’s Day, and you’ll recall that we had what had been previously sworn enemies celebrating here in this very room.

You know, leaders from the two sides of Northern Ireland that, you know, a couple of decades ago — or even a decade ago — people would have said could never achieve peace, and here they were, jointly appearing, and talking about their commitment, even in the face of violent provocation.

And what that tells me is that, if you stick to it, if you are persistent, then — then these problems can be dealt with.

That whole philosophy of persistence, by the way, is one that I’m going to be emphasizing again and again in the months and years to come as long as I’m in this office. I’m a big believer in persistence.

I think that, when it comes to domestic affairs, if we keep on working at it, if we acknowledge that we make mistakes sometimes, and that we don’t always have the right answer, and we’re inheriting very knotty problems, that we can pass health care, we can find better solutions to our energy challenges, we can teach our children more effectively, we can deal with a very real budget crisis that is not fully dealt with in my — in my budget at this point, but makes progress.

I think, when it comes to the banking system, you know, it was just a few days ago or weeks ago where people were certain that Secretary Geithner couldn’t deliver a plan. Today, the headlines all look like, “Well, all right, there’s a plan.” And I’m sure there will be more criticism, and we’ll have to make more adjustments, but we’re moving in the right direction.

When it comes to Iran, you know, we did a video, sending a message to the Iranian people and the leadership of the Islamic Republic of Iran. And some people said, “Well, they did not immediately say that we’re eliminating nuclear weapons and stop funding terrorism.” Well, we didn’t expect that. We expect that we’re going to make steady progress on this front.

We haven’t immediately eliminated the influence of lobbyists in Washington. We have not immediately eliminated wasteful pork projects. And we’re not immediately going to get Middle East peace. We’ve been in office now a little over 60 days. What I am confident about is that we’re moving in the right direction and that the decisions we’re making are based on, how are we going to get this economy moving? How are we going to put Americans back to work? How are we going to make sure that our people are safe? And how are we going to create not just prosperity here, but work with other countries for global peace and prosperity?

And we are going to stay with it as long as I’m in this office, and I think that — you look back four years from now, I think, hopefully, people will judge that body of work and say, “This is a big ocean liner. It’s not a speedboat. It doesn’t turn around immediately. But we’re in a better — better place because of the decisions that we made.”

All right? Thank you, everybody.

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    So how do we insert a link on each page that references the teleprompter, taking people to an account of Dubya having a little earbud connected to a radio receiver during his first debate with Kerry?
    Anybody here versed in the how-to’s of rickrolling?

  • yoshiattack

    Yes, the President speaks well, but it’s also true that some amusing teleprompter incidents have occurred in his time with the device. Is the right blogosphere obsessing too much? Yes.
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    That AIG op-ed is well-timed and needed more now than ever. Those morons in Congress probably don’t even know WHY they’re grandstanding. See Dodd.

  • sqr1

    Where does this idea come from that we have a finite amount of outrage and that we must conserve it lest we run out? This seems to be a popular sentiment that I do not understand.
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    Can I not be outraged at BOTH Joseph Cassano AND the greedy, reckless bastards he left behind? Can I not be outraged at BOTH AIG-FP AND their counterparties? Can I not be outraged at BOTH Bernie Madoff AND the SEC? Can I not be outraged at BOTH George Bush for creating the economic mess AND Barack Obama for perpetuating it?

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    The ‘teleprompter’ obsession certain qualifies as graping at straws I’m not sure what to make of the blog but this made me laugh out loud:
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    Huffington Post: Wait. He’s about to say something. It sounds complicated. Apparently he is predicting we are going to have a “Good evening.” See? The Obama Administration’s policies are working already. One good evening begets another, and another.

  • FlownOver

    MS –
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    1. sgwhiteinfla directed our attention to the DeSantis whine about two hours ago, where we discussed it at some length. It would help if you read the comments in your own blog.
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    2. It’s “affecting,” not “effecting.”
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    3. The archaic Middle English term you meant to use is “methinks. “Me thinks” is just misuse of a pronoun and a verb.
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    C-

  • gysgt213

    “Obama and his teleprompter.”
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    Here is how this works Michael. The teleprompter thing is Rush’s idea of a line of attack. Whether it makes sense as a line of attack is really beside the point. This is something for the portion of the American people who can easily disgest the soundbite journalism that the tv press has so efficiently prep them for over the years. This portion of Americans really don’t want to think for themselves. They just know they want a reason to dislike or even hate the guy they see as a threat.
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    Rush knows that the conservative blogs will pick up on this meme and that way too many mainstream reporters follow what’s being discussed on conservative blogs even if they don’t listen to his show. That’s were these so-called mainstream reporters get their memes to follow in the first place. They don’t go to lefty or progressive blogs or even mainstream blogs and get their memes because this will get them into trouble and open to attack by the right. They have no fear of attacks from the left. Never had never will. Rush also knows that the press suffers greatly from group think. So he does not need a lot of mainstream reporters to pick up the stream. Just 1 or 2 will do the trick. Rush also does not need that many Americans to fall for this obvious manipulation either. He just needs a few to call in or ask reporters about it and the ball rolls from there.
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    RON FOURNIER is exhibit 1. An example to prove my point:
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    What kind of politician brings a teleprompter to a news conference?
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    A careful one.
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    President Barack Obama took no chances in his second prime-time news conference, reading a prepared statement in which he took both sides of the AIG bonus brouhaha and asked an anxious nation for its patience. . . . .
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    It was a carefully modulated statement, and Obama — relying on a familiar crutch — read it off a flat-screen monitor perched at the back of the East Room.
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    The teleprompter was no help during the question-and-answer session (reporters don’t signal their intentions), but Obama was no less careful during that give and take. . . .
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    One of the few times he summoned raw emotion came after a reporter demanded to know why it took him so long to express outrage over the AIG executive bonuses.
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    “It took a couple of days because I like to know what I’m talking about before I speak.”
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    Even better, he likes to have it up on the teleprompter.
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    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090325/ap_on_go_pr_wh/obama_analysis

  • stuartzechman

    Michael Scherer:
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    …here we all are raging at the employees he left behind…
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    We’re not “raging at the employees”, that’s the thing that the Beltway press corps keeps getting fundamentally wrong about the nature of the current outrage.
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    You are assuming something about peoples’ anger that just isn’t so, even though CEO Liddy would like you believe that these are the dynamics in question, and holds up printed death threat emails in supposed proof. But “raging at the employees” is not at all what is in the minds of people regarding AIG bonuses. You’ve subconsciously adopted the idea that “outrage” and “the mob” are synonymous. They’re not.
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    Please read my letter for an exposition on what I believe are Americans’ true sentiments:
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    To the Editors of the New York Times:
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    I read Mr. Jake DeSantis’ resignation letter that strangely found its way onto the editorial pages of your newspaper, and I was puzzled and intrigued by the sentiments expressed in that letter.
    .
    Mr. DeSantis doesn’t seem to take into account that his continued employment at AIG didn’t simply depend on his willingness to work there, it depended on an unprecedented amount of taxpayer dollars injected into the company –without which, there would be no AIGFP.
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    While I certainly sympathize with Mr. DeSantis, in as much as that I take him at his word that the financial products with which he and his fellow employees at AIGFP were associated were not the cause of the company’s misfortunes, it’s very difficult to imagine another situation in which a firm that is one foot in the door of bankruptcy would continue to pay millions of dollars in bonuses to their employees as if nothing at all was happening to the company’s cash flow.
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    It is this strange myopia with respect to the firm’s financial situation, that seems to point to a disconnect between Mr. DeSantis’ frustrations and the realities of a normally functioning labor market in a capitalist system. Perhaps this is our fault, as taxpayers, for not insisting that our government completely take the firm into receivership, dispose of its debts as safely as possible, and then put that firm back on the market for sale to its competitors.
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    Nobody who has previously worked for a profitable division at a company in desperate financial straits, and then who has been laid off with the rest of that division’s workforce due to the firm’s condition as a whole thinks of writing the New York Times to complain about the treatment they’ve received –unfair as that outcome may be. Neither does anyone who works their hardest right up until the very day that their entire company closes its doors due to the disastrous results of poor executive decision-making write to the New York Times to complain of the injustice inherent in that situation.
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    And yet, these two scenarios in which people, through no fault of their own, are suffering the unjust rewards of the asymmetrical nature of our capitalist system –a system in which we accept a certain amount of unfairness as necessary– don’t seem to enter Mr. DeSantis’ mind as being comparable to his own.
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    Obviously, two wrongs don’t make a right. It is not that taxpayers are insisting on deliberately visiting another unfairness upon Mr. DeSantis and his fellow Financial Products employees in retribution for the sins of others. .
    It is, however, that taxpayers insist on AIGFP (and AIG the parent) function as if they were any other company whose continued existence was not the result of the commendable fruits of Mr. DeSantis’ and other employees’ daily efforts, but the result of an emergency redistribution of wealth. That means, in practice, that compensation must not be lavish at the expense of the company’s bottom line, must necessarily be below prevailing wage standards, and must be as frugal as possible –commensurate with the firm’s new struggle to escape taxpayers’ debt. In short, taxpayers insist on AIGFP starting to behave as if they were any other company in this situation.
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    If, because of these eminently normal steps with respect to limiting compensation during a company’s financial hard times, Mr. DeSantis chooses to leave AIGFP for greener financial products’ pastures, he will re-enter a labor market that is the result of such proper –and unfair to him personally– actions on the part of his employers. It will be one in which there exists recent downward pressure on wages for jobs like his, certainly. I can’t imagine that any person familiar with our system of capitalism wouldn’t agree that this is all as it should be.
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    I fail to understand how Mr. DeSantos’ situation is more unfair, or significantly unfair in comparison to what happens in a contracting economy to millions of other individuals whose fortunes rise or fall sometimes with those of the organizations for which they are employed. The two exceptions, perhaps, being the gross injustice of AIGFP employees’ jobs being saved by tens of billions of dollars of taxpayer dollars, and the odd lack of recourse for those millions of unemployed to the opinion pages of the New York Times.
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    Stuart Zechman, Manhattan

  • mccainfluffer

    Michael, I checked your presser story:

    Do you consider his “ocean liner” remark to be a gaffe? Speaking of which, the Top 10 Gaffe link is an embarrassment.

    Then there’s Ed Henry’s question. I guess it must be something in the DC water system. Maybe you can explain how the AIG Bonus story represents Obama’s “greatest public relations bungle”? This seems to be villager conventional wisdom, but it is not reflected in polls.

    On a side note, I nominate NBC’s Chuck Todd as the person who asked the dumbest question. I guess job loss, mortgage forclosure, state and local budget cuts don’t represent suffering.

  • http://smoothlikeremy.blogspot.com/ sgwhiteinfla

    The AIG op-ed is a crock of bullsh*t. The guy who wrote his resignation letter and decided to publish it in the NYTimes works for AIGFP where the house of cards originated. Now he can say he had nothing to do with it, but really did you expect him to say anything less? Are we REALLY believe that Joe Cassano did EVERYTHING all by himself? Scherer seriously I don’t expect much from you at this point but I would have at least thought you would have done some rudimentary ground work or maybe just use “teh google” to see of DeSantis is the saint that he claims in a self serving out of touch quote unquote “resignation letter”. Maybe then you would have noticed that he actually got a promotion last year after the sh*t hit the fan.

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    http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS235753+24-Oct-2008+BW20081024
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    Am I really supposed to cry crocodile tears that the son of a b*tch that got a promotion after the house burned down is now mad because he didn’t get a bonus for helping to clean up the ruins? Ruins that are being rebuilt with MY tax dollars? Especially when the same ass hole ADMITS that he has made such a sh*t load of money working for a company that imperils our whole financial system that him not having a job won’t hurt him at all. PHUCK THAT MUTHAPHUCKA. And I mean that from the bottom of my heart.

  • rustyreturns

    Michael,

    What to say to a totally erroneous blog about last nights “Press Conference”. Can we spell B-O-R-I-N-G? Please correct me if I am wrong, but all I heard were the same campaign slogans and remarks from Obama that he has spewed out of his mouth for the past 2 years, nothing new. “Education, Socialist Healthcare, and Energy”. Why didn’t he answer the question posed “what if Cap and Trade is not included in the budget you propose, will you veto it?”
    “What if Congress does not approve a large healthcare spending in the budget?” Will you veto the bill?
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    Simply saying you do not know what Congress is working on so far as the budget doesn’t give me much hope that you DO know anything at all Mr President. It actually scares me to death to think we are in the greatest economic crisis of our lives and you Mr President do not know what is going on at all. Geithner doesn’t specifically spell out his plans, and only speaks in generalities. All we get are Democrat talking points left over from the campaign.
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    No Michael. The Press Conference I witnessed was full of nothing. I suspect that the real reason Obama, who can be very eloquent in his talks, put on this show to get the people to turn off the TeeVee to a different channel, and watch “Hunting with the Herberts” on the Outdoor channel. The only channel not pre-empted for this farce. I think Obama is putting all of this time in front of the camera for the past 60 days simply to say, “I have been out there working on all of this and we cannot solve the banking problem. We will just have to “Nationalize” the banks now”. “The stimulus just didn’t work”.
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    Hello Socialism. Hello Communism. Hello American People, wake up before it is too late!!!
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    Can impeachment hearings start before the 1st 100 days are completed? I hope there isn’t a constitutional amendment that says we cannot.

  • FlownOver

    Joe Bftsplk –
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    Here’s your teleprompter link, and here’s one for the earbud.
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    Heh heh heh.

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  • http://smoothlikeremy.blogspot.com/ sgwhiteinfla

    Just FYI, Joe Klein just responded in the comments section of his thread. No, really, he did. Just go check it out. Im still in disbelief myself.

  • sqr1

    I’d also like to add that while AIG’s Mr. DeSantis makes a good point about relative culpability within AIG-FP, I’m not willing to absolve him to the extent he seeks. Mr. DeSantis was an executive vice president at AIG-FP. He has a sophisticated understanding of financial products. Mr. DeSantis may not have been trading in credit default swaps, but did he have no idea that such trading was occurring? Did he not understand the extent of the trading? Did he not understand the exposure of the company? The risk to the country if there was failure? The impact that massive defaults would have on his own units?
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    I don’t claim to know the answers to these questions. And clearly, by any measure, players like Joseph Cassano bear the lion’s share of the culpability. But as we move forward as a country we need to make important decisions about regulations, oversight, etc. If Mr. DeSantis is telling us that companies like AIG cannot police themselves when units go rogue, then that is an important fact to know when we are discussing how to clean up this mess.

  • bobcn1

    ‘As most of us have done nothing wrong, guilt is not a motivation to surrender our earnings. We have worked 12 long months under these contracts and now deserve to be paid as promised. None of us should be cheated of our payments any more than a plumber should be cheated after he has fixed the pipes but a careless electrician causes a fire that burns down the house.’
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    Should people that appear to have no understanding of the real workings and consequences of free-market capitalism really be given ‘retention bonuses’ at a financial institution? Mr DeSanto’s company went BROKE. He seems to think that should only affect people who shower AFTER work.
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    SZ – nice letter. Your post led me to read the comments on Mr DeSanto’s letter at the NY Times site. The gulf between the ‘masters of the universe’ and the rest of us is remarkable to see. One side is filled with a sense of entitlement while the other side is resentful and angry.

  • stuartzechman

    BREAKING!
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    Joe Klein becomes part of the solution to journalism’s –and therefore America’s– problems by commenting directly in his own posts for the first time ever.
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    Dogs n cats living together!

  • http://derekg.wordpress.com/ Derek

    The letter writer makes a perfectly rational argument except for one thing, his company is bankrupt. He was told his part of the business was shutting down, and then was offered a bonus to delay looking for a new job. Perfectly legitimate in my opinion. Unfortunately, the bomb went off before the exit strategy, and bonuses were paid, and they lost because the people are covering the mess made by all the unsecured bets now.

  • http://smoothlikeremy.blogspot.com/ sgwhiteinfla

    Contrast DeSantis’ letter with this report on TYT
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    The only difference between DeSantis’ situaton and that guy’s is that the guy they are talking about on TYT didn’t get a bailout for his hedgefund. I have no sympathy for Desantis at all and in all reality his phony resignation letter makes me have a great level of contempt for the man.

  • kathy

    The teleprompter obsession is of a piece with the frowns about laughing and filling out brackets – a return to Puritanism and an effort to keep Obama from looking good, in any way possible.
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    McCainFluffer – I thought it was commendable for Obama not to say “well that’s the AG’s job, not mine.”

  • yoshiattack

    SG:
    The DeSantis who wrote the op-ed was educated at M.I.T. Also, his first name is apparently not Anthony.
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    Beyond that, the issue with the bonuses is that recouping or refusing to pay them is apparently ILLEGAL, and the congressional goofballs attempting to get them back are trying to push what appears to be an unconstitutional law through. IMO, this is an attempt by Congress to make it look like they’re doing something and maybe get a petty power grab in the process.
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    The fact that this guy is receiving close to a million dollars is objectionable. But the villain here (as opposed to the ivory tower blind guy) is CONGRESS.

  • Tom in The Swamp

    Where is Joseph Cassano? I see him on a regular basis on the pages of TPM Muckraker, for one.
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    Those guys that do real reporting, you know? Reporters?
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    Another set of investigators is hot on the trail of Joseph Cassano, the man who walked away with a multi-million dollar golden parachute after spearheading the credit default swaps that brought down AIG.
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    Investigators for the House Oversight committee intend to interview Cassano about his role in the firm’s collapse, and have already contacted his lawyer, a committee staffer told TPMmuckraker.

  • cincinnatus est exterminata!

    We need an exo-media to inform the media. They don’t seem to know a f@cking thing.

  • keithernet

    Genuine unseriousness is being displayed on this “teleprompter” business. I don’t recall any concern expressed by *anyone* of any political persuasion when conservatism’s god-figure, Ron Reagan, read consistently off of his teleprompter. This is another example of how, as in the campaign, the “loyal” opposition has no clue how to campaign against, or deal with, Obama on substance.

  • http://privcorr.blogspot.com/ wvng

    I think it is important to praise MS for noting that the teleprompter meme is ridiculous. Although I agree with Cole that it “weirds me out a little” when MS fails to promote a stoopid RW talking point. I mean, I mean, what’s up with that?

  • spob

    Look at Sgwhite with his Monday/Friday potty talk. Stay out of county, sg.

    And geniuses, you really miss one point about the AIG bonuses. The federal government made its investment in Sept 2008. It said NOTHING about the bonuses. Then, after accepting the benefits of these people working until March, the government (i.e., Obama and the House) is deciding that the government should unilaterally alter the deal. Forget about the breaking of the employment contract entered into before the government took over, the government here is acting unconscionably. Had the people known in September that their contracts weren’t going to be honored, they could have made decisions then about whether to continue.

  • spob
  • dunedweller

    I’m very pleased President Obama is making frequent public appearances, interviews and pressers. He’s eliminating the MSM middleman by speaking directly to the people – his views in his own words. Media reports about last night’s presser are proof that we should never rely on their understanding of the important aspects of his message. All they are talking about today are the teleprompter, and the AIG outrage, as well as which reporter’s stupid question wasn’t answered appropriately.
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    I finished the presser feeling burdened by the huge uphill battle we face as a country on practically every issue – economy, healthcare, education, energy, war. But also reassured that we have a man who is up for the insanely difficult job of IMPROVING these areas for future generations. He genuinely wants to accomplish the tasks before him by using all his brain power (which lucky for us he has an abundance of) and all his energy (gosh, I wonder why he looked tired?) to pull us out of the sh!t pile our past POTUS put us in, and all we can think of to ask him is “so far, has your presidency been color blind?” Give me an F-ing break!
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    My favorite line was re: stem cell research when he said “I’m not looking to create a controversy if their doesn’t need to be one” Um, hey MSM, given the challenges we face, maybe you should take his advise on that….

  • http://smoothlikeremy.blogspot.com/ sgwhiteinfla

    Here is something interesting. Try to google any info on Jake Desantis and you come up with a recently created linkedin profile and his op-ed in the NYTimes. But if you put the name Desanstis in by itself with AIG you get several articles about Anthony Desantis. I wonder who has actually talked to Jake and verified his story.

  • http://smoothlikeremy.blogspot.com/ sgwhiteinfla
  • http://smoothlikeremy.blogspot.com/ sgwhiteinfla
  • Joe Bftsplk

    Flownover-
    Thanks (if belatedly, thanks to a long lunch) for the earbud links!
    Can’t wait to get home where I can watch the videos.

  • southernbell49

    I’m bringing this bit over from Andrew and posting it here because this is the newest thread. It’s worth remembering that some in Congress knew/feared we were not doing the right thing:

    “‘I think we will look back in 10 years’ time and say we should not have done this but we did because we forgot the lessons of the past, and that that which is true in the 1930′s is true in 2010. I wasn’t around during the 1930′s or the debate over Glass-Steagall. But I was here in the early 1980′s when it was decided to allow the expansion of savings and loans. We have now decided in the name of modernization to forget the lessons of the past, of safety and of soundness,” – Senator Byron L. Dorgan, Democrat of North Dakota, November 5, 1999.

  • http://smoothlikeremy.blogspot.com/ sgwhiteinfla
  • georgiac

    MS: “he said in his introduction, reading from a large TV screen.”

    MS: “I don’t really get all this gabbing about Obama and his teleprompter.”

    So why the reference to Obama’s reading from a screen?

  • sqr1

    I love it. Even the liberal NYT prints Op-Eds by AIG sockpuppets.
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    Thanks, sg.

  • lupercal5

    sqrt1 said:
    “Can I not be outraged at BOTH George Bush for creating the
    economic mess AND Barack Obama for perpetuating it?”
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    God created the world in 7 days. Why can’t obama fix it in 7 weeks?

  • district112

    The telepromter crap is stupid. Talk about reaching, but it’s funny because not only did their God, Ronald Reagan use a teleprompter, but he also sought out advice from tarot cards.

  • http://www.inworldstudios.com jayackroyd

    Stuart–
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    If you want them to run a letter,it has to be shorter. Do you think there’s any chance that Jake will actually do anything other than bank his three quarters of a million? That represents something like 25 years of median income earnings.

  • Matt

    The teleprompter thing is a joke, a sign that conservatives have so little to attack the president with that they will ridicule his preferences in delivering speeches.

    Do they really believe that Bush was such a master of language and rhetoric (Ha!) that he would wing every public speech? He read from a little thing called PRINTED NOTES, which is just an old school version of the evil teleprompter.

    http://www.political-buzz.com/

  • stuartzechman

    Jay:
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    I’m crying out for a decent editor, aren’t I?
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    Thanks for the advice, let me see what I can do to shorten it…

  • bobcn1

    yoshiattack wrote: ‘The fact that this guy is receiving close to a million dollars is objectionable. But the villain here (as opposed to the ivory tower blind guy) is CONGRESS.’
    .
    Is the cop to blame for the bank robbery if he fails to prevent it? The robbers were at AIG. Congress and Bush (and to a much lesser extent Obama) just did a poor job of trying to stop the thieves.
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    If you want to cast blame on those who caused this mess you should start with the ‘government is the problem’ ‘deregulation is good — regulation is bad’ crowd. Start with Ronald Reagan. Then Phil and Wendy Gramm. Eventually you’ll work your way down to Paulson, and then Summers and Geithner.

  • spob

    Come on guys, take on the September to March issue.

  • http://smoothlikeremy.blogspot.com/ sgwhiteinfla

    Ok I have been looking for an hour and a half and I can’t find the guy. Basically I think its bullsh*t but now its getting repeated on MSNBC. Mikey Scherer you might want to try to find the guy.

  • spob

    Uh-oh, SG white is on the case . . . . You’d think he was Powerline tracking down the Rather forgeries.

    Just stay out of county, OK, SG. I wouldn’t want your soft self to get what you think the white student assaulted by the Jena Six deserved.

  • gysgt213

    “Come on guys, take on the September to March issue.”
    .
    What’s the issue spob? You do know there were 2 different administrations involved during that time period. Correct?

  • stuartzechman

    spob:
    .
    I can’t defend you this time.
    .
    You’re the one who gratuitously brought irrelevant, racially charged arguments into a discussion of appropriate compensation in a government-subsidized enterprise.
    .
    There’s no reason for that sort of provocation, except that your argument is foolishly weak, perhaps.

  • http://www.inworldstudios.com jayackroyd

    To the Editors:

    Jake Desantis’ AIG contract reflects an explicit recognition the firm’s division expected to lose a large amount of money, because the instruments issued in the past by Mr. Desantis and his colleagues were going sour. The contract provided that if the division, as expected, lost money, 2008 “bonus” payments would equal 2007′s levels. It’s much easier to make a case for clawing back previous “bonuses” based on illusory profits than to Mr. Desantis’ case.

    http://www.house.gov/apps/list/press/financialsvcs_dem/employeeretentionplan.pdf

    Jay Ackroyd
    Manhattan

    Something like that, Stuart. I will send this in, now that I’ve written it. And you have to include a phone number, because they will call if they are going to run it.

  • http://nobamablog.wordpress.com/2009/03/25/times-scherer-sticks-up-for-obama-re-teleprompter-jokes-newsbustersorg/ Time’s Scherer Sticks Up for Obama Re: Teleprompter Jokes | NewsBusters.org « NObama Blog

    [...] | NewsBusters.org Posted on March 25, 2009 by nobamablog …Time magazine reporter Michael Scherer’s March 25 blog post with some thoughts on the president’s second prime-time news conference: I don’t really [...]

  • http://www.businessopportunitystartup.com/blog/times-scherer-sticks-up-for-obama-re-teleprompter-jokes/ Time’s Scherer Sticks Up for Obama Re: Teleprompter Jokes | Latest Technology News – Business News And Expert Advice

    [...] Time magazine reporter Michael Scherer’s March 25 blog post with some thoughts on the president’s second prime-time news [...]

  • spob

    So gunny, it’s your position that the government qua government changes when the administration changes? Interesting, to say the least.

    So SZ, my comments to SG reflect his view, stated repeatedly in here that the Jena Six victim deserved his six-on-one beat down. That puts him outside of the province of rational discourse, and I try to remind people around here about that. And I try to remind people that SG, to me anyway, seems like someone who thinks he’s hard but isn’t. And it’s my view that he couldn’t even hack it in a county lockup . . . . That a bunch of libs in here know SG’s views on the Jena Six victim and don’t care is a poor reflection on them. I guess when some rural white kid gets attacked it’s no big deal. Somehow I doubt that if it were your kid that you would be so soliticous of a punk like SG.

    The bottom line is that there can be no justification for allowing these people to work September to March, accepting the benefits of their work and then trying to stiff them on their compensation. Any sense of fairness would have dictated that the government needed to speak up in September or live with the deal.

  • spob

    “What’s the issue spob? You do know there were 2 different administrations involved during that time period. Correct?”

    That really is ignorance on stilts. You should stick to leading Marines.

  • spob

    Come on guys–if I am so stupid, how come no one can seem to justify the failure to tell the employees that they weren’t supposed to get their bonuses until March. Come on, defend Rangel’s clawback bill. Defend Barney Frank. Defend Obama. Come on. I am just a stupid guy–it shouldn’t be so hard to slap me down.

    And by the way, now that you guys are all outraged about these AIG bonuses, I assume that you;ll be calling Rangel’s office about the taxable implications of his below-market rentals.

  • stuartzechman

    spob:
    .
    You know that I’m in almost complete disagreement with SG, and have said so in no uncertain terms.
    .
    This doesn’t change the fact that your introduction of that controversy here is at best irrelevant, at worst provocation and not an argument worth pursuing in the context of a discussion of the merits of the former AIGFP employee’s resignation letter.
    .
    Perhaps you’d like to touch on my letter to the Editor of the New York Times, so that you can take the opportunity to refute my defense of capitalism?

  • subtropicbob

    sgwhiteinfla:
    I also looked for evidence that “Jake Desantis” is for real. I could not find any mention of him on the Internet either, except for the potentially phony LinkedIn page. There’s no other record of him on the ‘Net or in Lexis-Nexis. That seems VERY odd if, in fact, “Jake Desantis” actually exists and is who the letter and LinkedIn page claim he is. I think it’s possible the letter is a fraud or the name is phony — or both.
    - Bob in the Florida Keys

  • yoshiattack

    Bob, I was talking about the bonus incident specifically, not the financial crisis overall.

  • spob

    First of all, SZ, you are the only one who has rejected SG’s disgusting comment. And given the level of discourse in here (and I freely participate), I cannot believe that you think that pointing out SG’s crap is a faux pas in here.

    As for your letter to the editor, to be blunt, I found it trite. We can always point to someone who has gotten screwed more and ask why someone is complaining. Basically, your argument to someone screwed by the government is “live with it” because others have been screwed worse and have no redress.

    In any event, what no one seems to be able to justify the position that it was ok for the government to make its investment in September 2008, accept the benefits of work from these employees, and then rewrite the deal in March 2009. That simply deprived these people of their autonomy, which we still have as Americans. That is unconscionable conduct.

  • stuartzechman

    spob:
    .
    Thank you for your commentary on my letter.
    .
    We shall have to agree to disagree here, I suspect.
    .
    I don’t think that the government screwed AIG, I think that AIG screwed AIG –and the taxpayer.

  • http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/03/26/a-president-and-his-teleprompter/ A President and His Teleprompter – The Opinionator Blog – NYTimes.com

    [...] Fournier’s AP analysis finally roused some defenses of the President. At Swampland, Michael Scherer wrote after the press conference: I don’t really get all this gabbing about Obama and his [...]

  • spob

    I dont think the government screwed AIG, I think the House bill would have been the government screwing AIG’s employees.

  • mattroyal

    gysgt213 – You ask the question – “What kind of politician brings a teleprompter to a news conference?” And then answer the question – “A careful one.”

    You then go on to provide more comments to back your point.

    My concern with this is that if, as you say, he is careful about what he says, why is that he signed the stimulus package ($874 BILLION dollars) without reading it?

    Is it possible that he’s ONLY careful about what he says and not careful about what he does? Do words mean things and actions don’t?

    Is that what we really want in the White House?

  • subtropicbob

    Folks – The “Jake Desantis” resignation letter in the New York Times appears to be a HOAX! If you Google his name, you’ll find that the only thing on the Internet before the letter was published and the news it generated is a recently-created LinkedIn page that is apparently phony. There is no mention of any “Jake Desantis” at AIG anywhere else on the Internet, no mention of him in any newsclips in Lexis-Nexis, no mention of any AIG executive by that name in the Hoover’s business executive database. Nor is there any mention of him anywhere related to the former positions listed on the apparently phony LinkedIn page. Nor is the supposed thesis he wrote at MIT mentioned anywhere on the Internet except on the apparently phony LinkedIn page. Check it out for yourselves. Either the letter is phony — or the name is phony — or both.

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