A White House Seized By The Animal Spirits

White House Budget Director Peter Orszag is a numbers guy, a propeller head as President Obama would say. But as David Von Drehle and I write in this week’s print version of TIME, Orszag has been spending his time recently reading not about spreadsheets, but about psychology. In particular, he has been reading a new book by the economists George Akerlof and Robert Shiller called “Animal Spirits: How Human Psychology Drives The Economy, and Why It Matters For Global Capitalism.”

The book’s thesis is that modern economics has undervalued the role of the spirits–psychological phenomena like confidence, story telling, fairness and corruption–in shaping economic patterns. The root word of credit, they point out, is the Latin “credo,” meaning “I believe.” A credit crisis, therefore, can be understood as a crisis of belief. They write:

Economists have only partly captured what is meant by trust and belief. Their view suggests that confidence is rational: people use the information at hand to make rational predictions. Certainly people often do make decisions, confidently, in this way. But there is more to the notion of confidence. The very meaning of trust is that we go beyond the rational. Indeed the truly trusting person often discards or discounts certain information. She may not even process the information that is available to her rationally; even if she has processed it rationally, she till may not act on it rationally. She acts according to what she trusts to be true.

That is a near perfect description of what led to the current crisis. The bank barons, Federal Reserve chairmen, Congressional regulators, stock investors, home buyers, investment bankers, derivatives traders, the financial press and the general public all had an irrational confidence in the economy. From the captains of industry down to the neighbor next door, we spent more than we had because we believed. We discarded or discounted information that challenged this believe, most notably the ridiculously unprecedented spike in real home values.

Now, as several White House officials constantly point out, we are suffering from the flip side of a confidence bubble. The financial crisis, which can be measured in bank stress tests, stock market drops and the Libor index, threatens to become, in the view of Obama’s team, a confidence crisis. The fate of the bank bailout, the housing plan and the G20 meeting next month will not determine our future alone. We are all at the mercy of the Animal Spirits. This is how Larry Summers, Obama’s top economic adviser, described the situation today at Brookings:

In the past few years, we’ve seen too much greed and too little fear; too much spending and not enough saving; too much borrowing and not enough worrying. Today, however, our problem is exactly the opposite. It is this transition from an excess of greed to an excess of fear that President Roosevelt had in mind when he famously observed that the only thing we had to fear was fear itself.  It is this transition that has happened in the United States today.

In other words, because we had too much confidence, we now need even more. Later in the speech, Summers prepared remarks called for him to refer to the need to “restore sustained economic growth.” Tellingly, he said instead, “restoring confidence in sustained economic growth.” The two concepts have become one. We are in a race against our own minds. (More after the jump.)

On Thursday afternoon, President Obama expanded on this same concept in a meeting with captains of industry at the Business Roundtable. He made the incisive point that the modern news cycle can have the effect of exacerbating the Animal Spirits, the very same cycle that could have lead a viewer of CNBC two years ago to suspect the bull market would never end.

We live in such a rapid-fire information-rich environment that people’s attention spans go like this.  And that makes for volatility in confidence.  A smidgen of good news, and suddenly everything is doing great.  A little bit of bad news — oh, we’re down in the dumps.  And I am obviously an object of this constantly varying assessment. (Laughter.)  I’m the Object-in-Chief of this varying assessment. (Laughter.) So my view — you know, people ask me sometimes, well, you seem like a pretty calm guy, how do you do that?  I say, well, look, I don’t think things are ever as good as they say and they’re never as bad as they say.  And things two years ago were not as good as we thought because there were a lot of underlying weaknesses in the economy, and they’re not as bad as we think they are now.

This has been the message of the White House, more or less, ever since Obama announced in the Oval Office that prices might make stocks a pretty good buy right now. The White House is trying to recreate a sense of confidence by pointing out all the measurements that suggest the sudden loss of confidence may be causing the same irrational result that the confidence bubble created. Of course, the White House must walk a delicate line here, for even the smartest people in the Washington do not know when the markets will stop sinking. No one can predict the animal spirits. As Obama said Thursday, “The market is going to be responding to all this information out there and, you know, the whole issue of animal spirits in the marketplace and when suddenly a rally catches, you know, you guys know that better than I do.  But my focus has to be on the long term.  And my long-term projections are highly optimistic — if we take care of some of these long-term structural problems.”

In the meantime, we all hold on, both to the railings and our own state of mind. The greatest fear in Washington’s corridors of power now is that we collectively lose our minds again, becoming irrationally pessimistic just as we were all irrationally optimistic a few years ago. The policy responses–the bank bailout, the housing plan, the regulations–are after all, as Summers would say, as much about restoring confidence in sustained economic growth as they are about restoring economic growth. We are, it turns out, slaves to the Animal Spirits. They have brought us to our knees. And now they are the only things that can save us.

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  • damack

    Michael,
    Still waiting to hear your analysis of Stewart vs. Cramer and how it relates to journalism (generally) and your role in it (specifically).

  • http://www.hulagate.org hulagate

    MAGIC 8 BALL says…

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123690358175013837.html

    TRY AGAIN LATER.

  • http://www.hulagate.org hulagate

    “The greatest fear in Washington’s corridors of power now is that we collectively lose our minds again…”

    Like back on election day 2008?

    I’m guessing we’ve been there, done That One once already will be one Time too many.

    = NEWT 2012 =

  • gpanfile

    So the latest MS news flash is that he now strongly feels that people feel things strongly, and strongly feels that is important, and strongly feels that if people felt different things strongly things in reality would be different. Duh!

    Besides confidence and lack of it, there was the role in all of this of the emotion of GREED. People felt that they were not going to be ROBBED, and they were WRONG, and that is why they feel BAD. Until the full extent of the theft is known, and action is taken to prevent it happening again, and there is some sort of a recovery from the results, people will continue to feel bad, and they should.

    A substantial contribution in this area would be along the lines of what Jon Stewart is doing… outing the corrupt media enablers of the bubble. And other substantial contributions would be outing the politicians on both sides who profited from it, and the unethical business people who profited from it, and covering the efforts and substance of new regulations to keep it from happening again. Most importantly, this should be done because I very strongly feel confident that it would make a difference, despite the fact that it would require actual reporting work, research, and little if any discussion of emotion.

  • bobell

    Singular: phenomenon. Plural: phenomena. From the Greek.

  • http://www.hulagate.org hulagate

    White House reply to the GREED thang…

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20090313/pl_politico/19972/print

    = MADOFF ACCOMPLISHED =

  • Art Pepper

    “Obama’s Reform Agenda: Is He Trying to Do Too Much?”
    .
    “Spider Man: Threat or Menace?”

  • http://www.hulagate.org hulagate

    Our economy will recover.

    Obama’s poll numbers?

    Magic 8 Ball says FUTURE CLOUDY, ASK YODA.

  • michaelscherer

    bobell, thanks fixed.

  • spob

    You know if we could just control what people believe we’d fix this crisis . . . .

    It’s impossible. If criminals would all keep their mouths shut, there’d be a lot fewer convictions too. You cannot control how millions of independent actors with their own interests in mind think or choose.

    Anyway, for more of the amateur hour in the Obama Administration:

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2009/03/another_foreign_policy_blunder.asp

  • Cliff

    Here, let me condense the ten paragraphs of blather for you:
    .
    Nobody knows what the hell is going on; we are resorting to witch doctors for insight.

  • cincinnatus est exterminata!

    It was a dark and stormy night….

  • Art Pepper

    spob: Against my better judgment I followed that link. What’s the accusation here? Wen Jiabao would never have noticed that China is over-leveraged in American debt if Clinton hadn’t mentioned it?
    .
    Also, are you saying that consumer and investor confidence are not factors in the economy? Then why do I keep hearing that Geitner needs to boost consumer and investor confidence?

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    Sigh….
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    You keep capitalizing “Animal Spirits” in a way that either stresses it as unique or mocks it (I’m not sure which.)
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    From my perspective though you are treating as remarkable, something that is blindingly obvious. Humans ARE animals. We are capable of rationality but it is not our standard operational mode. The fact that we hold ANYTHING of value beyond what we can eat, drink or breathe is an artifact of our evolutionary history. Our historical fascination with precious metals in particular reveals that what we regard as valuable is entirely arbitrary and that there is no such thing as “intrinsic value”
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    Why then should it be surprising that the health of our economy depends entirely on the mindset of its participants?
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    I could expand on this and point out how our whole political system revolves around the notion that if we throw our money into a big enough pile so that counting it is no longer intuitive, when we then remove it again in manageble chunks, it feels like we’ve gotten something for nothing.
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    We refer to the process as ‘earmarking’
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    The only arguments between the the two political parties is whether it’s preferable to spend more than you collect or colect less than you spend.

  • sqr1

    That is a near perfect description of what led to the current crisis. The bank barons, Federal Reserve chairmen, Congressional regulators, stock investors, home buyers, investment bankers, derivatives traders, the financial press and the general public all had an irrational confidence in the economy.

    Good God, what a crock! The insiders didn’t have an irrational confidence in the economy. They had a rational confidence that they would get paid up the wazoo as long as the game of musical chairs continued.
    .
    It is EXACTLY like the dot-com bubble. Do you think that nobody knew that 99% of the startups in the tail end of the bubble were nonsense companies? Do you think nobody knew that it was insane to be throwing $1-5 million launch parties for companies without any sensible business plan, and in some cases without any coherent product or service? Do you really think that nobody noticed this stuff?
    .
    I lived in SF at the time and I can tell you that people openly aknowledged that it was a massive house of cards. They just hoped to get in and out and bank enough vested options to make it worth their time.
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    I have no doubt the same was true for 99% of the participants in the real estate bubble. From the mortgage brokers to the commercial bankers to the hedge fund guys, they all knew perfectly well that the gravy train would end eventually (nobody is stupid enough to believe real estate prices always go up, although MS is apparently stupid enough to believe in the naievete of all these experienced business people). They just knew that they were making money hand-over-fist at the time and that it didn’t make any sense to try and rock the boat.

  • http://www.hulagate.org hulagate

    Flash Forward, August 2012…

    “My fellow Amnesians, fashizzle and Happy PayPal Gaza the once again.

    As we steer around the fact that I’ve saddled America’s next 3 generations with all the debt and fear of the prior 43 presidencies combined, let me first shout out to my like minded limited MOOPS in the media, for keeping the eyes on the prize being getting back at Bush for being so damned Republican for most of the prior 8 years (never mind the economy actually grew at a record pace for most of his terrorist trapping tenure).

    As we are gathered hereinafter today at the new International Demographic Party Statue To One Legged Hispanic Cheerleader Lesbians, may I remind you that I’m the hottest Hawaiian has been since Don Ho’s cousin Curly Ho, and for that I think all tree killing teen magazines can be grateful.

    OK, I don’t do math, but be reminded that when I took office we were saddled with a deficit that I voted for before I voted for trebling it. That takes some doing, when you think about what it requires to get the tough minded likes of Jon Stewpot and Mavis Letterboob shilling for you on a nightly Lez Moonbeam basis.

    Peeps, we are all Americans and legally most, and by the powers invested in me by the attorney general of the great 57th state of Illinois to which I carpet bagged not unlike another skinny tall dude from Kentucky so many weeks or months ago, know going forward into my next humongous lemming pep rally for populist pinheads only Hughie Long could love that my secret surrender to Russia and Red China where we sell back Alaska and parts of not so gay Oregon will go unnoticed by my tenured academic handlers so help me Madoff.

    I would like to extend a personal game of horse to my sheeple in the House and Senate that have signed on to the biggest series of federal boondoggles since Ted Kennedy paved an above-water way home from many office parties on the AFL-CIO wooden dime, and now re-package my 2008 campaign as hope and change in 2012, as long as you avoid any public discussion on my signing statements, my group tax cheats as personal aids, my military family pandering spousal unit that had never pledged allegiance to our flag until South Carolina, my skulking mother-in-racist, and the new dog yet to be named or selected not unlike half the law enforcement staff at Treasury.

    We have many people to appease, many businesses to harangue, many educators to coddle, many unions to kickback, and many entertainers on Wednesday nights, so our work continues, our Blame America First brow beating goes on, our smashing of all things pro-life undiminished by alleged faith or presumed morals or electoral college character.

    This is the United States of Canada, we are a free and lately proud people, we are a blessed special generation that can’t remember last week much less the history of Carter, and by Allah my creator I will drag us down into the hemp hut of history so help me Hubert Humphrey.

    Fissile, word, out.”

  • Dee in Columbia MD

    Hey Mickey,
    .
    Next time your friends on the right make the claim that we can’t fix our problem of too much spending and too much debt with more spending and more debt — you might want to point them towards the book.

  • Cliff

    Wait, so you throw down two dismissive sentences on Stewart vs. Kramer, but then crap out a big old dollop of economic superstition?
    .
    Do you ever actually engage in any sort of self-reflection?

  • primor1

    Really liked the writing.

  • http://www.inworldstudios.com jayackroyd

    The bank barons, Federal Reserve chairmen, Congressional regulators, stock investors, home buyers, investment bankers, derivatives traders, the financial press and the general public all had an irrational confidence in the economy.
    .
    No it wasn’t. It was a huge Ponzi scheme. The reason they kept lowering credit standards was to keep money coming into the system. And when they ran out of people to lend money to, they increased rates of leverage to unholy levels.
    .
    Keep in mind that AIG’s derivative unit in London showed a loss in 3Q 2007. At that point, everybody knew (or should have known) what was going on. The folks at Calculated Risk and people like Ian Welsh certainly knew it, wrote about it, and were ignored by the mainstream business press.

  • Aaron

    Let’s call this one THE UNCURIOUS CAPITALIST.
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    sqr1:

    It is EXACTLY like the dot-com bubble. Do you think that nobody knew that 99% of the startups in the tail end of the bubble were nonsense companies? Do you think nobody knew that it was insane to be throwing $1-5 million launch parties for companies without any sensible business plan, and in some cases without any coherent product or service? Do you really think that nobody noticed this stuff?

    I believe that Michael Scherer thinks everyone is as … gullible as Michael Scherer.

  • rustyreturns

    I do believe it was Phil Graham who first said Americans had “psychological problems”, didn’t he?
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    Fact be known, with Obama’s incessiant rant about how dire the economy was, and ready to collaspe. No wonder people are running scared of not only the market, but the safety of their money in the bank.
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    No one right now in their right mind would spend one wooden nickle in the market, buy a new American made car or shop for more than the basics at Walmart with all the media frenzy on economics and our political leaders telling us daily how bad off we all are.
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    The problem is that the economy is not that bad off, so far as recessions go, this is one of the least hurtful one in decades. It is big government politicians way of spending more of our hard earned tax dollars, and the media’s craze to generate a news story even if it does cost us all a bundle.

  • FlownOver

    “…because we had too much confidence, we now need even more.”
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    Honey, when you go to the store pick me up a package of confidence.
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    NO, MS, it’s not a commodity, and the confidence we need now isn’t X units – it’s the degree, not the amount, that’s warranted by actual economic circumstances and reasonable opportunity. That may be a lesser degree than the snake oil salesmen promoted before September, but more than is urged now by their Irrelephant enablers focused on dire warnings of failure for partisan reasons.

  • http://www.hulagate.org hulagate

    “It was a huge Ponzi scheme. The reason they kept lowering credit standards was to keep money coming into the system.”

    That, and a Vote Buying regimen created by Boob Rubin and Billary Clixon that almost everyone in DC madly allowed, if with fervent glee.

    Where do we go from here?

    Our deficits are UNSUSTAINABLE, and simmering stagflation now leads to hyperinflation later if we don’t get our fiscal House in order.

    There’s lots of hyperventilating about what the Dow will do, and where Granny’s 401K has gone POOF no real fault of her own that’s understandable, BUT we need to accentuate the realities which are also the psoitives…

    + Housing and commercial real estate are becoming much more affordable, in line with reality and not Rezko realty

    + Money has a few places to land, and after the limited uses for trading metals fizzles out, most investors will come back to U.S. stocks

    + The reality is we MUST reduce federal outlays, at every level — including government guarantees that should never have been guaranteed include Medicrap, SSI, more cement for roads and bridges to nowhere (hello West Vagina), lousy teachers, corrupt Wall Street “law” enforcers, DOD contract cheats, you name it

    + Obama talks alot; if he doesn’t ACT to cut the deficits by TWO THIRDS, not just in half, within 5 years, he’s not helping

    + The pain of a vast economic contraction is awful, but not as awful as the complete meltdown of international markets should we fail to balance our federal and state budgets, sans stupid tax increases on things we don’t need now and can’t afford next week

    We have not been creative, to date, in parts of the solution — new types of private and public investment vehicles with transparent tracking, an ultimatum to our NATO allies to pull their weight in the war on terrorism (or else), an ultimatum to Iran and North Korea and Red China too to stand down from their exports of armed death aiding despots and ner-do-wells, the complete de-coupling of business innovation and thus employment from the regressive income and inventory tax regimes of the 1960′s, and a commensurate increase of Pay As You Go government services (lacking viable private sector alternatives).

    I don’t doubt Obama’s dream of dogmatic success for himself.

    I do doubt his ability to recognize and follow through on anything of use beyond the borders of Mother Jones and Vanity Fairies.

  • michaelscherer

    sqr1, I don’t rule out the role of corruption and bad faith. They too are animal spirits that clearly played a role, as did the very non-psychological facts of poor regulation and twisted incentives. But that regulation and incentive structure was all allowed because of the confidence bubble, the belief, widely shared in Washington and academia, and by the american public, that what was irrational was in fact rational. The bezzle, as this corruption bubble is called, is facilitated by a confidence bubble. see here:
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    http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/01/07/a-silver-lining-the-bezzle-bubble-pop/
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    Cliff, my whole point is that psychology is not superstition. It is real, in the form of real effects on GDP, hiring, firing, etc. It is the thing right now, and the point of the post is to say that the White House is increasingly focused on that prize. As i noted in an earlier post, the difference between a recession, a severe recession and a depression is confidence. That is our enemy now.
    .
    http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/03/09/the-economys-psychic-threshold/
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    I have been running around all day, and I didn’t mean to dodge comment on Stewart/Cramer, or by that omission deny any culpability on the part of the press. I think the bulk of Stewart’s critique is spot on. As i have written about, much of the “financial advise” that has been peddled by cable news networks has been deeply irresponsible, and the extent to which the nets can be cowed by shame, is a good thing. See here:
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    http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2008/12/01/save-money-turn-off-your-tv/
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    I think Stewart is in a way wrong, though, to hold up CNBC as a great pinnacle of financial journalism. With rare exception, that is not what the channel is about. It is as much entertainment as it is information, if not more, with Cramer’s show serving as a prime example. (Last night, as i mentioned on Twitter, Kudlow actually had Ann Coulter on to discuss Bernie Madoff. Really. With a straight face. Coulter on Madoff, like Kermit on The Count.) Most of those guys are financial jesters, doing Wall Street via Sportscenter and WWE. You can often learn more in a copy of the Financial Times, or the Wall Street Journal, than you can in several hours of the stuff. In other words, Stewart is right to critique the premise of those shows, especially when we need more actual journalism, but wrong to suggest that the Daily Show is entertainment while CNBC is somehow news. That said, Stewart is dead on right that CNBC sins by pretending that Cramer is an oracle, or that it will inform you how to protect your money, when most of the time it has Coulter on to talk about Madoff or CEO X talking about how great his stock is. (Remember after the dot com crash, there was a similar round of CNBC recriminations. The network did not learn its lesson.) Cramer’s stock picking averages have long been dubious, as several studies have shown.
    .
    This leads into another discussion: Where is the real journalism? The short answer is that we never had enough of it, and many of the best are getting buyout packages or walking papers, because the economic model behind actual journalism, by this definition, is collapsing now, and there is an increasing desperation to maintain viewership when possible. Which feeds the vicious cycle: More entertainment, less news, less money for news, etc. All of this is a serious concern, and something that should terrify everyone. But I am not sure that the solution to this spiral is to cheer the collapse of news organizations, which I often find online, when there is no alternative being offered. And I do not say that to make an excuse for journalistic failures. We should be doing better.

  • http://www.hulagate.org hulagate

    “Where is the real journalism?”

    Somewhere south of Katie Couric’s last colonoscopy.

  • pearlybaker

    I really hate articles that begin “everybody thought… “. Not everybody thought Hussein had WMD and certainly not everyone thought the economy was sound. Just the echo chamber between the media, Washington and Wall St. Not enough has been discussed that one root cause of the misbehaviour of banksters and traders is that it was NOT discouraged by popular consensus. Greed was good. More greed was respected. You don’t always need new laws and more oversight. If you have a society that valued honesty and fairness then those in important positions will reflect that. If you respect greed and wealth then that’ll be reflected too.

  • Ivy_B

    MS, you may only be aware of the evening CNBC programs that you rightly call entertainment – Cramer, Kudlow, etc. However, I watch a bit of Squawk Box at the gym most days and have for years. This is what they consider the non-entertainment part and what I think is the dangerous part Stewart was talking about.
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    Here, and I think the other daytime shows, is where the standard fare is interviews with CEOs. All company news is presented in a positive and respectful light – unless there is news like Martha Stewart on trial when the boys had days of hilarity mocking her clothes, etc. Now and then Jack Welch is on and you can see real groveling. They always speak positively about the Repubs that are on and the few Dems get a passing nod. The hosts are not at all shy about expressing their doubts about any Democratic idea.
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    During the Davos conferences, Becky Quick goes and has fawning interviews with CEOs from there. The hosts are former Wall Streeters, but note that they no longer hold individual stocks – to prevent bias, I suppose, but that could also serve to insulate them a bit. These are the shows that aren’t considered entertainment. There is one actual journalist – David Faber and Stewart even made a reference to him last night. The rest, not so much.

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    because the economic model behind actual journalism, by this definition, is collapsing now, and there is an increasing desperation to maintain viewership when possible. Which feeds the vicious cycle: More entertainment, less news, less money for news, etc.
    .
    But Michael, this has been going on for Years! Consolidated ownership and excessive diversification have also made matters worse. I agree that the death of newspapers is nothing to celebrate but there’s still plenty of hunger for real journalism but the confuence of your owner’s interest and that of the stautus quo players in DC is resulting in the tragic comedy that political coverage has become.

  • michaelscherer

    Paul, Again not trying to dodge any blame, but the fact that the financial collapse started years ago, and has rapidly accelerated recently, does not make it any less real. By owner’s interest, you may mean profit, and you are right, that is an issue, as profits plunge. The investigative journalism that we are talking about is astronomically expensive when compared to the sort of stuff that CNBC does, or even what you get on Swampland. One reporter spends months on a single investigative story. CNBC folks have to talk for hours a day. A beat reporter like me often writes a thousand or so words a day. And that is not a complaint. But if you go around town and count the reporters who have time to do this sort of story–uncover, for instance, that everyone in power is wrong about the economy–there are but a small fraction of the piddly numbers that existed just five or ten years ago. That’s a major problem.

  • stuartzechman

    Thank you so much for responding to commentary, Michael Scherer.
    .
    While there is much to debate, and there is much that is debatable about your response, this dialog is important.
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    Thanks again for your contribution.

  • stuartzechman

    Michael Scherer:
    .
    With respect to the content of your post, are you not making a case for political-media elites to come to a consensus on what will be effective propaganda for immediate distribution?

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    I’ve got an idea. Lets all agree that Geraldo Rivera singlehandedly discredited the whole concept of investigative journalism and that everything that has ever happened since has just been the death throes!
    . ;-)

  • Ivy_B

    Well, Paul Dirks, I never got over Al Capone’s tomb.

  • damack

    I never got over Al Capone’s tomb.
    If I remember correctly, it was Al Capone’s vault. Then again, it was also the tomb for Geraldo’s reputation.

  • Paul-no not that one

    MS-First thanks for engaging in comments with so many thoughts.
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    “But if you go around town and count the reporters who have time to do this sort of story–uncover, for instance, that everyone in power is wrong about the economy–there are but a small fraction of the piddly numbers that existed just five or ten years ago.”
    .
    This is something that gets mentioned a lot. Just flat out fewer reporters for the jobs. And that is without doubt true.
    But aren’t you making the case for fewer readers/viewers?
    “We can’t do the job” And I don’t mean that in a snarky way.
    .
    Local papers are hardly worth the time or 50 cents to pick up with all the staff cuts. Interestingly the sports page seems immune.

  • Cliff

    Cliff, my whole point is that psychology is not superstition.
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    And my point is that you’re taking what is (or should be) common sense – that the market is not a rational place filled with rational people – and you’re heralding this Animal Spirit terminology as some sort of revelation. And you take a loooooooong time to do it.
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    I mean, this crowing about Animal Spirits is showing up right around the same time people are trying to blame Obama for sinking the DOW. Just cut to the end game and start reading bull entrails.
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    Also, thanks for commenting on Stewart vs. Kramer.

  • Ivy_B

    Thanks damack, you’re right – it was so long ago!

  • adamjd

    you know, there’s a lot of good stuff out there about behavioral economic theory… but with a story like this, all republicans would see is OBAMA LOOKING TO ANIMAL SPIRIT GUIDES TO FIX ECONOMY!

    conservative blog commenters around the country rejoice!

  • sqr1

    “it was also the tomb for Geraldo’s reputation.”
    .
    More like the tomb for consequences in journalism.
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    Today, the idea that a journalist could destroy their reputation by being wrong about anything is rather quaint.

  • FlownOver

    MS –
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    I take back 10% (stet) of the terrible things I’ve said about you. Seriously, thanks for playing.
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    Whether CNBC is superficially pigeonholed as news or entertainment is irrelevant. Even if it’s entertainment at its core there are many whom it blithely allows or actively induces to rely on its consciously unreliable content. The channel can’t dodge all responsibility for the Recent Unpleasantness.
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    …and Coulter on Madoff isn’t so much Kermit on the Count – it’s more Gacy on Dahmer.

  • http://www.inworldstudios.com jayackroyd

    MS
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    I may get this right, but there is a legacy in newsgathering that seems broken to me today. For example, the number of WH correspondents seems excessive. And the number of people covering the same primary stump speeches over and over again are even worse.
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    There’s something wrong with having dozens of people covering the same, mostly vapid, content. There’s something wrong with a roomful of reporters being briefed on background. There are no “scoops” anymore, and the culture of getting the story first in this environment leads to situations like the Politico, where they are often first, and wrong.
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    Moreover, the key stuff is televised anyway. If I care about what Gibbs has to say, I can dvr it.

  • endglobalhunger

    It may not seem like a feasible priority to some considering the economic conditions our country is under, but according to the Borgen Project only $19 billion a year is needed to end world hunger- a tiny amount compared to how much money has recently been spent on federal bailouts to irresponsible corporations.
    For this amount of money the lives of people living in dire poverty would be drastically improved and this in turn will benefit the United States. A study conducted by the U.S. estimated that if the World Food Summits goal of reducing hunger by half is met; it will lower the cost of peacekeeping and humanitarian operations by $2.5 billion per year. Furthermore, According to USAID, more than 40 percent of all U.S. exports and half of U.S. agricultural exports are sold to developing countries — these annual exports account for about 4 million U.S. jobs. As people in developing countries are assisted out of poverty, more jobs are created in the U.S.

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    [...] TIME.com [...]

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