Shocking News!

Are you sitting down? Because I have some shocking news. I know this comes out of the blue, so steel yourself: 

Bristol and Levi are not getting married.

I know! I was sure those two crazy kids were going to beat the odds and make it work. But alas, Levi Johnston tells the Associated Press that he and Bristol Palin have called off their engagement and broken up. So not only is Bristol a teen mom, she’s a single mom as well.

Which puts her right there along with eleven out of twelve teens who have babies. According to the National Campaign to Prevent Teen and Unplanned Pregnancy, “at the time of their child’s birth, almost 1/3 of unmarried teen mothers are ‘certain’ that they will marry the biological father of their child. Another 25% say their chances of marrying are ‘good.’” But in reality, “not even 8% of unwed teen mothers are married to the baby’s father within the year.”

Bristol has a good chance of being okay without Levi, since she’s in a family with the means and desire to support her. But most teen mothers aren’t so lucky. On average, unmarried teen mothers have lower educational attainment and lower incomes than married mothers or women who are older when they have their first baby. And their babies face hurdles as well, with a greater chance of being in poverty, engaging in early sexual activity, and becoming teen parents themselves.

I sincerely wish Bristol good luck. As she’s already finding, this isn’t going to be easy. I just hope that if she’s serious about being an advocate against teen pregnancy, she’ll talk a little less about what to do once you’re already a teen mother and a lot more about how to avoid getting pregnant in the first place.

Also? This dude could use some of that “how to avoid pregnancy” advice.

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  • http://www.hulagate.org hulagate

    She’s better off without him.

    Those Kenyan fathers are such deadbeat rats anyway.

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  • sacredh

    This is truly sad and tragic news. It just proves that even the finest families have the same problems as the rest of us. I know when I was a child and my mother was bilking the state for thousands of dollars in false per diem claims and flying us around in jets, staying in luxury hotels and billing the state illegally for the costs, I could never figure out why people didn’t believe I was conducting state business. This whole pregnancy thing would have never happened if Sarah had PAID someone to have the birds and the bees talk with Bristol instead of doing it herself. If you’ve ever heard Sarah try to explain something, you can understand why Bristol came away from her little talk thinking she’d just been given instructions on how to make buns in an EasyBake Oven. Bristol and her child are going to be fine. Mommy is making a fortune destroying what’s left of the republican party.

  • mccainfluffer

    When I saw the RSS Feed headline for this post, I thought Swampland might actualy have a post about the Sy Hersh and his revelation about Dick Cheney’s “assassination squad.”

    Silly me.

  • sacredh

    A vice president’s assassination squads will take a back seat to pregnant hillbillies every time in the MSM. There are priorities and then there are priorities.

  • sacredh

    The only thing really shocking about this news was that it wasn’t announced on the Jerry Springer Show.

  • http://www.hulagate.org hulagate

    “I know when I was a child and my mother was bilking the state for thousands of dollars in false per diem claims and flying us around in jets, staying in luxury hotels and billing the state illegally for the costs, I could never figure out why people didn’t believe I was conducting state business…”

    STOP RAGGING ON FANCY LEFTOSI.

  • http://www.hulagate.org hulagate

    Sy Hersh = Jihad Joe Klein in drag

    Both unwatchable, like Mavis Letterboob.

  • http://www.hulagate.org hulagate

    “The only thing really shocking about this news was that it wasn’t announced on the Jerry Springer Show.”

    He has an exclusive with the extended Jesse Jackson family.

  • cfukara

    AS:
    “This dude could use some .. advice.”
    Click. Ouch!
    That was a sneeky way of getting me to be a member at NYT.

  • Art Pepper

    Fluffer: Reporters know who signs their paychecks. You’re not going to hear anything about domestic spying or CIA “special operations” here.

  • http://www.hulagate.org hulagate

    Latest Lib Loon Conspiracy:

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    Too bad he actually didn’t.

    Early, and often.

    Or did he…..

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  • http://www.hulagate.org hulagate

    Back to what matters:

    Clearly, both Bristol and her Mom require professional comforting during this Time of crisis — and I for one am willing to do the hard work required, to stiffen my resolve even, to see beyond the hot, hot brandishing of Alaskan ointments and thermal lingerie that may very well have to be flown in Thursday, to Meet Up head on this most striking of situations, high heeled in super shorts sure, but where sacrifices are mottled may we all get a glimpse of the bulbous brief moment when bouncing around sans surrogate 3-way those of us seeking TMZ and no more Move On to the flying fickle finger of fate, so help me Hefner…

    Oh, sorry.

    I thought this was the Al Franken news network.

    Never mind.

  • http://www.hulagate.org hulagate

    Now if we can just get Amy to post above and JNS below, we can share a sweet Hula sandwich…

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  • http://www.124monkeys.com Sean DeCoursey forgot his password

    Actually, there’s a pretty good case to be made for having “assassination” squads. I put scare quotes around assassination because really, it’s just targeted killing of an individual. And to be perfectly honest, there are some people that the government actually does need to kill.
    -
    That said, you need to have due process and legal protections set up around such actions, and a coherent and logical articulation for your argument about why this is necessary. The Bush/Cheney regime was massively, massively lacking in both, and hopefully will spend their final days in prison due to the many, many, many serious constitutional violations and war crimes they committed.
    -
    If anyone is wondering, the rational argument for “assassination” squad type work is that warfare has changed, and if the enemy isn’t going to oblige you by putting on a uniform and standing around on a designated battlefield waiting to die, you have to change up your methodology in order to eradicate him. We did the same thing to the Brits by refusing to fight them in nice open field formations and instead engaging them from the “sneaky” woods. See Marion, Francis James (also known as the “Swamp Fox”) for an example.
    -
    On an unrelated note, Hula, why do you put up relevant, useful news about democratic abuses of power/money to advance your cause then ruin it with 15 posts of garbage?

  • http://www.hulagate.org hulagate

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    ….

    “The Bush/Cheney regime was massively, massively lacking in both, and hopefully will spend their final days in prison due to the many, many, many serious constitutional violations and war crimes they committed….”

    Will that be in the FDR Jap Camp Suite, Lincoln Habeas Corpus Lounge, or Clixon Rendition Rec Room?

  • wsf1964

    speaking of broken threads, what the hell is up with Time, defense of Rush, Newts new 12 step program, Halprin. They aren’t even pretending anymore.

  • Matt

    This is only a story because Sarah Palin herself turned this into such a key component of the campaign by hiding the pregnancy and then marketing Bristol as a model evangelical teen mom.

    http://www.political-buzz.com/

  • yoshiattack

    I’ve said this before, but Hula has already said it for me…
    .
    Did Bush try to intern any Arabian/Kurdish Americans on the simple suspicion that by solidarity with Afghanis/Iraqis they would become terrorists?
    .
    Did Bush suspend habeas corpus? (etc.)
    .
    When we posthumously convict the Presidents responsible for those abuses…then we convict Bush. In the meantime, sure, have a truth commission. It’s important that we restrict the use of right/left lenses as far as possible.

  • http://smoothlikeremy.blogspot.com/ sgwhiteinfla

    yoshia
    .
    Uhmm yeah he did as far as interning Arabian/Kurdish Americans indefinitely with no charges. Please don’t tell me that you weren’t paying any attention to the al Marri case.

  • Friar Tuck

    I’m sure Bristol appreciates all the attention, Amy Sullivan.

  • 2cute4prison

    Too bad she didn’t hear the “abstinence only” message. I’m sure that would have resonated with her like it does with other teens across the country and the world for that matter.
    .
    Bill O’Reilly must be proud.

  • newfloridian

    Wow! I’m like so bummed! I was so looking forward to a televised wedding with those two love birds. Not!

    Hey hula, maybe it’s your turn on the Bristol merry go round. Go introduce yourself, I’m sure that family will think you are perfectly normal. Time you started sleeping with women instead of guns.

    So when does Hef extend the famous “you’d look good in our magazine” offer to Bristol. Maybe Bristol becomes one of Hef’s girls. Who knows… the soap opera continues.

    When Bristol gets knocked up a second time, how does Sarah spin that?Maybe the breed more white people argument?

  • http://www.inworldstudios.com jayackroyd

    OT irony
    .

    “I’ve yelled at a few reporters,” says Jay Carney, who left Time after 20 years to become Joe Biden’s communications director. “No, I’m not going to say who. But look, people get it wrong sometimes. That was a little bit of a weird experience getting on the phone and chewing out a reporter or an editor for something I thought was totally wrong.” But the new job, he says, is “great” and “I have had very little trouble adapting to this new role, which is completely different from what I was doing before.”

  • http://www.inworldstudios.com jayackroyd

    Too bad she didn’t hear the “abstinence only” message.
    .
    She did. And this is what happens.

  • 2cute4prison

    @Jay, I will include a “snark” indicator on future posts.

  • http://www.inworldstudios.com jayackroyd

    Amplifying. Got the snark.

  • http://smoothlikeremy.blogspot.com/ sgwhiteinfla
  • WisconsinLiberal

    further proof that political comedy writes itself

  • 2cute4prison

    Ah…I outsnarked myself. BTW, Jay Carney…classic. I do miss the extra punching bag around here though.

  • stuartzechman

    It’s hard to believe it, buy Carney was almost as worthless as Sullivan.
    .
    His sole value to Time seemed to be that he could write piece after piece after piece, and never once come up with an original thought about anything.
    .
    If you wanted the predictable to be written in a predictably fatuous, oblivious, Beltway-speak style, Jay Carney was your eunuch.

  • Benny

    AS: “So not only is Bristol a teen mom, she’s a single mom as well.”
    .
    Just curious why you don’t refer to the father, Levi, as a ‘teen dad and a single dad’.

  • Hammerlock

    Wow. Nice find jay.
    .
    And much as it pains me to descend into tabloid news, but isn’t Levi trying to see the baby and getting denied? I ask only because the tone of the blog is such that it makes the guy sound like he’s running away from his responsibilities, when other “news” I’ve heard implies the opposite.
    .
    Actually I almost don’t want an answer to that–provided that you start posting actual relevant content AS. You’re racing Scherer to be the next contributor to the fine publication of either OK magazine, or the Enquirer.

  • stuartzechman

    Jay Ackroyd:
    .
    I think Amy Sullivan’s already beaten Michael Scherer in the irrelevancy game many, many times. His problem is that he thinks what Politico tells him to think, and writes about what they want him to write.
    .
    She’s much, much worse. It’s like she opens a Politico link, and then waits five days to read it before getting on board whatever junk CW she thinks she’s supposed to be confirming.
    .
    She does this with a hilariously inept attitude of “OMG! I just realized something important! TEH THOUGHTS!”. The way that she seems to come back from whatever insider-y events she attends to breathlessly name-drop, or blather back-stage gossip is bad enough, but then she tends to go on an idiotic speculating rampage about what her gossipy non-information means to the world, which is where the really inane stuff comes out.
    .
    She’s the worst of all political blogging worlds –a self-important magpie who actually believes that her own distractions whenever she’s in the vicinity of shiny political objects is important enough to write about.
    .
    Maybe she’s a nice lady, but her posts make her out to be two steps away from being a moron. That she doesn’t seem to know or care about looking like a complete nincompoop in a national publication is beyond understanding.

  • yoshiattack

    SG, while there are a lot of wrong things about al-Marri’s case, it’s still far from FDR’s. 1) Not an American citizen, just studying at an American university. 2) Initially charged with terrorism-related counts.
    .
    Comparing this case to the mass internment of Japanese American citizens is possible only in the most tangential sense. If this is what you are suggesting, then I’m fine with that. But to square totally with FDR’s executive order would mean al-Marri was detained simply because he was Arabian. Obviously this is not the case.

  • formerlyjames

    Just to put things into proper perspective, I doubt that anybody cares or is surprised about the 2 fairly typical nutty teens. Noting the progress of their affair is about the ideology of the right wingers, a leader of whom they have the misfortune to be connected.

  • FlownOver

    On the matter of pro jocks who can’t keep it zipped:
    .
    A special paternity fund, into which all NFL/MLB/NBA players would be required to pay a percentage of their bloated salaries, would go a long way to (1) assure their child support is paid, and (2) create scads of peer pressure for more responsible behavior on the part of the worst of these overgrown, overpaid, spoiled “idols.”

  • spob

    Amy, have some class. I don’t see why it’s necessary to ridicule a 18 year old. What did she ever do to you? You know, this post is almost as bad as Rush Limbaugh’s comparison of Chelsea Clinton to a dog some years back. (It’s my understanding he NEVER apologized for that–can someone help me here?). You ought to be thoroughly ashamed of yourself, and you ought to apologize.

    Flownover, jealousy, much?

  • Dee in Columbia MD

    spob — if this was just about the affairs of two teens I would definitely support your position. But if you have even one ounce of intellectual honesty, you know darn well that if this had been a black teen, the family would have been drummed out of the election.
    .
    As a Democrat I am tired of always taking the high road while conservatives slide along their bellies until they can attack your soft vulnerable places. Republicans would have used every mean-spirited, and cruel language in the book to paint a black teenage single mother with the most unsuitable image they could find. History has proven that social conservatives are not known for their compassion regardless of what Bush tried to call them.

  • spob

    Dee, I guess I am a little dense. You “would” support my position but . . . .

    So I guess it’s ok to ridicule an 18 year old who has done nothing to anyone because, let me get this straight, social conservatives you guess would have villified a black teen mom.

    Ok, got it. By the way, I’ve never seen social conservatives rip on Kweisi Mfume for the multiple mothers in his life. Oh well, Kweisi has own issues, namely getting his clock cleaned by a Cincy cop on CNN one time.

  • sacredh

    @Dee: If one of Obama’s daughters had been 18, unwed and pregnant to a jock with a drug dealing mother, it would have all over for him. The RW would have portrayed it as “typical” of the failed family values of the entire party. The republicans tried to spin Bristol’s pregnancy as a triumph of family vales because Bristol and Levi were going to get married (uh huh) and keep the baby to raised in a fine christian home. With the republicans, it’s always “my sh!t don’t stink”.

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    You may recall that part of the reaction to Bristol’s pregnancy was of the order of “What the ‘eff was McCain thinking?” when he selected Palin in the first place. The poor judgement and lack of principles that were behind the selection really put the choice out there for all to see.
    .
    I happen to agree that now that the election is old news, Bristol deserves more privacy than is being afforded. But the hypocrisy inherent in people who brag about their ‘family values’ doing such a pi$$-poor job of living up to them or passing them on, was apparently too much for Ms. Sullivan to resist.

  • FlownOver

    spob –

    Jealous of what? That lifestyle interests me about as much as a hitch with the Taliban.

  • sacredh

    The Palin family has chosen to keep the entire matter anything but private. Bristol and Levi sold the baby pictures for over a quarter of a million dollars. Bristol has appeared with her mother on television and has done print interviews. She’s turned this into a money making proposition and given up her privacy. It was her choice and she decided to keep the public spectacle going for money. The election is over but Sarah is positioning herself for another run. I don’t see how they can expect to keep this whole matter in the public view when it suits them but claim their privacy is being invaded when the media reports on something they aren’t personally controlling. They can’t have it both ways. If they want their privacy they need to STFU and keep it private instead of trotting themselves out whenever it suits their purposes.

  • shakrai

    Out of curiosity is swampland going to start covering the ~400k other teen pregnancies/engagements with as much detail as you’ve been giving to Bristol Palin or could we actually find something that’s (*gasp*) newsworthy to talk about instead?

    Love to hate the Palin family but I think most would agree that this story really doesn’t deserve press attention.

  • spob

    sacredh, I know it’s hard, but perhaps you would address the nastiness of Amy’s post. It’s in incredibly poor taste. She’s making fun of Bristol, and that’s pretty pathetic. So the issue is not the cool quarter mil. Hey, I wouldn’t be too jazzed up about taking that kind of scratch for my family’s privacy, but you know what, that’s their call, not mine.

    Paul’s post is cute. You know, family values doesn’t mean perfection. And it also doesn’t mean that if your kid gets knocked up or knocks some girl up, you’ve failed. But I don’t see how the Palins have held themselves out as the virtue police. They believe in certain things, but so do the Obamas. And I gotta tell ya, as moral scolds go, Michelle Obama is pretty bad. The whole service BS is pretty f’in hard to take. (Of course, McCain’s “Country First” slogan also ranked pretty high on the gag factor.)

    Flownover, your vitriol about the sex lives and paychecks of athletes sure looks like jealousy to me.

  • newfloridian

    spob,
    Nasty post? Let’s be perfectly clear here, Bristol is nothing more than Alaskan poor white trash tart dressed up as the poor virtuous girl who screwed up or got screwed up. The difference between her and all of the other teen mother’s is that she got what? A cool quarter million or so for the pictures of her offspring. Jeeze, the little girl profited by selling out her family’s privacy. Between that and a campaign where she and Levi were always on display on every campaign stop suggests a desire to “CASH” in on the fame of the pregnancy. How much did the positive press resultant from Sarah’s desire to show them off encourage other young girls to say… I want to have a baby too, like Bristol!” Not cool, but then you excuse that behavior and criticise Amy for calling attention to the many questionable activities of thsi family.

    We are dealing with a family of hicks here who wouldn’t have been where they got to had Sarah been just an average looking Governor. Being hot and in charge in a party of dweebs for whom cool means paying hookers for sex or rummaging through men’s bathrooms is the only reason anyone out there gave a crap about Sarah or Bristol.

    Your criticism of Amy’s post rings quite hollow.

  • fhmadvocat

    spob,

    I reread Amy’s post and it is hardly an attack against Bristol. To me it was an attack on the whole “family values” crap put out by the social conservatives and the Republican party. As many have said, What if Barak Obama had a teenage daughter who was pregnant? Rush Limbaugh would have a field day. I still haven’t forgotten his attack against Chelsie Clinton. That alone makes Rush Limbaugh unworthy of any respect as a political commentator.

    I don’t blame Bristol, I blame Sarah Palin. She thrust her daughter into the spotlight, which certainly pressured Levi into promising marriage. I believe in being responsible, but 90% of my friends who got divorced, got married because they were expecting a child. Clearly the wrong reason to get married, and Levi is probably making the correct choice.

    Don’t be hard on Amy. This is national news. And Amy’s point is that most teenage moms aren’t as lucky or have the financial means that Bristol has.

    What this exposes the hypocrisy of social conservatives and the religious right. They spend so much of their time making judgments about other people’s morality. It is time they took the plank out of their eye instead of finding the needle in others.

  • spob

    fhmadvocat, I believe that I mentioned Limbaugh in my post . . . .

    This was an attack on Bristol. The sarcasm drips. It was nasty and mean-spirited. “Steel” yourselves?

    As for newfloridian, I don’t see what’s so questionable. I mean, what are we going to do, lock up pregnant teens, exclude them from family things. Yeah, it’s a little embarassing, but it’s also life, and you deal with it. And calling Bristol a tart just shows misogyny and a weird prudishness about sex.

    I also don’t see how this exposes any hypocrisy. Teaching abstinence is a good idea. Unfortunately, it doesn’t always work. In any event, I don’t sense a ton of preachiness from the Palins–and certainly less than Michelle Obama.

  • stuartzechman

    I agree with spob.

  • Friar Tuck

    Oh come on now.
    .
    You’re 18 years old, stuck with Sarah Palin for a mother, you’re on the rocks with your boyfriend, and a magazine offers you a quarter mil for some baby pictures. Do you take the money? OF COURSE YOU TAKE THE MONEY!!!!
    .
    Like nobody on this thread ever did something they deeply regretted, with permanent consequences, at a young age?
    .
    And somehow it’s Bristol’s fault that she got a better offer than the rest of us?

  • newfloridian

    The point is that the publicity surrounding this pregnancy was a cold calculated move on the family’s part. They’ve been all in on milking it for every dime they can get. Then they and their supporters get all offended by anyone calling attention to their play for the headlines and money. Really hollow hypocrisy!

    Excuse me spob, Nothing prudish about calling her a tart. She’s just following a natural biological drive instilled in our mammalian species to encourage the survival of the species. That’s why abstinance doesn’t work, it’s against the laws of nature! Teenagers are going to experiment with sex because it is a natural drive. Just a hundred and fifty years ago a 16 or 17 year old was considered an adult ready to go out in the world and start their own family because the average life span was about 40 to 45. That desire to procreate didn’t just go away because some Republicans or deeply religious people said sex out side of marriage was wrong.
    And frankly as an individual who lived through and in the 60′s there’s nothing wrong with sex. It’s a natural bonding experience between two people that guess what actually leads to preganancy unless you use birth control of some type, and may result in a life threatening STD if you don’t use some sort of protection.

    I just wonder what your types would have said if the relationship between Bristol and Levi had resulted something other than a baby, say AIDS? If Sarah Palin and actually taught her duaghter something about sex instead of just don’t do it, Bristol would just be a normal 18 year old girl looking forward to life rather than an 18 year old mother. If a potential President of the United States can be so irresponsible with her daughter’s future and life what would she do with the country?

  • formerlyjames

    I don’t want to go on a long tirade, but just a few thoughts. The hypocracy is Palin’s right wing “family values” routine and playing nanny to the world, all the while there is natural teen sexual activity in her own house. Preaching abstinance only, all the while there are sex hormones raging all around her.
    .
    I don’t dispute that teaching abstinance is valuable in a sex education program with teens. I vehemently dispute that it should serve as the only content of a sex education program.
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    Hypocracy? Judgemental posturing? Religious dogma? That is all part of the right wing “agenda”. (Favorite word of the right wing nuts, normally applied to homosexuals).
    .
    I have no judgement whatever of the 2 kids. They are normal. Momma Palin, however, is open game, as she is a right wing slut.

  • http://darcygrant.wordpress.com/ darcygrant

    Bristol Palin Interview

    Interestingly, Bristol Palin herself said, in an interview with Greta Van Susteren, that “abstinence is not realistic.” When asked if “contraception was an issue here,” Bristol said that she didn’t want to get into the details.

    As a mother, I taught my daughters that I believed abstinence was best. However, I also taught them that if they did choose to engage in sexual intercourse, contraception was a must. It seems to me that Sarah Palin’s blind allegiance to religious dogma blinds her to the complex reality of many issues and causes her to be, as her own daughter stated, unrealistic about a number of issues.

    As for Bristol’s decision to break up with Levi–good for her. I’m glad that Bristol has enough backbone to remove herself from any pressure her fanatical mother may have put on her daughter in order to preserve the artificial “wholesome” image of herself she wants so desperately to project.

  • newfloridian

    I wonder how much very intense pressure was being applied to the kids to marry for the sake of Sarah’s campaign. I got a feeling Levi will cash in on this whole sorid mess by providing material for an article or a book on the campaign. Good for him! I have a feeling dear Sarah will show to be a very calculating,narcistic personality who is willing to use anyone including her own pregnant duaghter and a Downs Syndrome baby to further her intense ambitions. People like that can do great damage to a democracy (see Cheney).

  • FlownOver

    spob –
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    I could be pretty vitriolic about Stalin, too – do you think that means I’m jealous of Stalin? Get a clue.
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    I object to the sense of entitlement we foster by making demigods of people who can perform certain physical stunts. They may be entertaining but their off-field conduct is often shameful. If you think they’re the cool guys you want to emulate, that’s your problem – and it says a lot about your judgment.

  • newfloridian

    Totally agree with you FlownOver. The behavior of some of our so called heros is appalling, from the baby makers, to the criminals to the steroid abusers. But then again they are so often coddled all of their athletic lives starting in high school, lasting through college and if they are good enough continuing in the pros. Quite often everyone gives them passes for their behavior. But part of that behavior is society’s fault. Like a misbehaving dog and an untrained owner, if you allow the beahvior, they think it is appropriate behavior. I believe if athletic coaches would do a better job molding behavior, some of this would diminish. Yes, before somebody jumps on me parenting is critical too. However, I know a NFL problem child and his parents were professional, respectful members of society and the problem child became a problem child because of the permissiveness of the college he went to which mastered in developing a thug type persona for it’s football program.

  • sacredh

    I had to leave for work soon after my last post so I missed most of the thread. After getting through the rest of the comments this morning, let me add another 2 cents worth. I don’t blame Bristol for taking the money for the baby pictures. I would have did the same thing. I have nothing against her doing more interviews and appearances on television. I don’t blame Levi for making statements to the press either. He’s a high school dropout and is getting money to live on. They are both doing what they either need to do or want to do. They’re keeping this alive by making regular statements to the media. Bristol’s mother used them both and trotted them out at numerous campaign events and rallies and made them a focus of her supposedly family values. It just so happens that they’re at least as dysfunctional as the rest of us and probably a lot more than most. Their privacy is NOT being violated. They’re willing participants and are showing no signs of making this a private matter. Whe Greata Garbo withdrew from the public eye she didn’t conduct regular interviews reminding us that she was no longer doing interviews. She wanted to be left alone and that is exactly what she did. She withdrew from the public eye. She longer had photo ops, refused interviews and didn’t speak to the press. There are going to be more articles about these two because they’re using the press as much as the press is using them. I don’t think Amy’s article was mean spirited or nasty in tone. I just see it as what it is, a commentary about a very unfortunate and very public event. It involves a very prominent and divisive family public figure so of course it’s going to continue to get ink.

  • sacredh

    Sorry for the errors, but I just woke up and did a lousy preview job.

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