Team Obama’s Petty Limbaugh Strategy

The McCain campaign would much rather have the story about phony and foolish diversions than about the future. . . . We have real problems in this country right now and the American people are looking to us for answers, not distractions, not diversions, not manipulations.Barack Obama, Norfolk, Va., September 10, 2008

President Obama won the presidency by promising to be a different, more substantive, less gimmicky leader. He said he would not waste our time on “phony outrage,” like fulminations on the meaning of “lipstick on a pig,” or silly characters like “Joe The Plumber,” a guy who was actually named Samuel and was not even a licensed plumber. No, Obama said he was going to solve problems instead. Now that he is in the White House, he still makes this case, almost every day. On Wednesday morning, during an address about contracting reforms, he referred dismissively to the “chatter on the cable stations.”

But what is the chatter on the cable stations? For most of this week, and for much of the last month, it has been about Rush Limbaugh. Hour after hour, daytime pundits are asked a litany of banal Rush questions: Does Rush really run the Republican Party? Why did RNC chair Michael Steele apologize to Rush? What does it mean that Rush addressed conservatives last weekend? As Jonathan Martin makes clear in the Politico today, this entire controversy has been cooked up and force fed to the American people by Obama’s advisers.* In other words, it’s not the kind of change you can believe in.

First off, let us settle on the facts. The Republican Party is lost and largely leaderless, much as Democrats were in the wake of the 2000 and 2004 elections. Rush Limbaugh, a self described “entertainer,” is probably the most famous and popular spokesman for the conservative cause that has long undergirded the GOP. But he no more runs the Republican Party than Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie run Hollywood. To put it another way, he is a talented pitchman, a powerful communicator, the Clark Gable of his day. But the producers and directors of the Republican cause still reside in Congress, in fundraising networks and in state executive mansions. And while all of these people are terrified of crossing Rush, their biggest brand name, and will apologize profusely to any perceived slight, they are about as beholden to Limbaugh as MGM’s Louis Mayer was beholden to Gable.

So why are we talking about Rush? According to Martin, the Rush “controversy” began as an idea last fall that followed a poll taken by Stanley Greenberg, who owns the house where White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel stays when he is in Washington. With his old Clinton Administration colleagues, Paul Begala and James Carville, Greenberg realized that Limbaugh was deeply unpopular among wide swaths of the American electorate. So, the strategists figured, why not turn the turn Republican Party into a Limbaughesque caricature? Limbaugh, a consummate publicity hound, was only too eager to help. Earlier this year, he said he hoped Obama “fails,” a reasonable claim in context, given that Limbaugh’s entire worldview is constructed around an opposition to the sorts of policies that Obama has proposed.

But echoed over the “chatter on the cable stations” thanks to Obama aides, including Emanuel and White House spokesman Robert Gibbs, Limbaugh’s comment took on a whiff of treason. Limbaugh’s rapid comebacks to the White House assault created what economists might call a “downward spiral” effect. “It’s great for us, great for him, great for the press,” Carville told the Politico, describing the White House and Limbaugh. “The only people he’s not good for are the actual Republicans in Congress.”

But here’s the rub: If you believed what Obama said during the campaign, then Carville is dead wrong. Republicans in Congress are not the only losers. The American people also lose. At a time of unprecedented threats to the United States, a time of financial collapse, bank failures and record layoffs, at a time when the credit crisis has not been solved, and the stock market is in free fall, at a time of stagnating wars, rising terrorism in Pakistan and growing nuclear potential in Iran, the White House has done the easy thing. It has asked the American people to focus their attention not on solving the problems, but on a big-mouthed entertainer in Florida. This may be smart politics. But it is also the same petty strategy that John McCain employed during the presidential campaign, the one that our new president promised to rise above.

UPDATE: Don’t miss David Von Drehle’s take on the White House/Limbaugh noise.

* By advisers here I am including the outside Democratic strategists and supporters discussed above who have influenced the White House line on Limbaugh.

ALSO: As Sam Stein points out, Gibbs said today, in a light tone, that he will “plead guilty to being counterproductive” by feeding the cable news beast. Of course, in saying that, he only further fed the beast.

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  • greenlyfe

    Limbaugh, a consumant publicity hound, was only too eager to help. Earlier this year, he said he hoped Obama “fails,” a reasonable claim in context, given that Limbaugh’s entire worldview is constructed around an opposition to the sorts of policies that Obama has proposed.

    First off: there is nothing reasonble about Limbaugh’s statment in context or out of context. That is why this is resonating so deeply. Apparently, he can not handle the simple idea that another world view might work and instead of that happening and people getting better lives and this great recession possible depression ending he wants the world to collapse.

    It’s outrageous.

    Secondly, this is basically the Republican party imploding. The Democrats and the White House have only prodded a couple of points and BOOM.

    Third: the White House has not been spending all it’s time on Limbaugh. It’s been dealing with the issues. That’s probably why Obama’s ratings are high.

    The simple fact is that Limbaugh made a crass and crappy statement that GOPers are afraid to call him out for b/c he has 20 million Republican listeners. In not doing so; they alienate independents and moderates.

    This has been excellent. Bring Limbaugh and Right Wing Talk Radio into the sunlight because clearly; it withers and dies as people become horrified.

  • http://smoothlikeremy.blogspot.com/ sgwhiteinfla

    Scherer
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    I sincerely mean this, BLOW IT OUT YOUR ASS!
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    You haven’t done even a single story about all the lying the Republicans did about President Obama’s stimulus bill and continue to do. You just sat there with your pen stuck up your arse waiting on a good Republican talking point. The President didn’t pick this fight, please remember that it was Rush Limbaugh who came out praying for failure. Bigger than that, half of the Republican lies flying around Washington are predicated on snippets from Rush’s show. Where do you think the term “porkulus” came from? Where do you think the lie about health IT in the stimulus bill came from? But you and your fellow Drudgites look the other way while that sh*t happens then have the nerve to come on here like the sanctimonious sack of sh*t you really are and lecture the White House? Give me a frikkin break. You want to know how to solve this problem? Tell your GOP buddies to grow some balls and oppose Rush Limbaugh without grovelling to him the next day. Then the story goes away. Until that happens you can get bent. Your party is going to get their ass handed to them next year all because of their dear leader Rush and there isn’t a damn thing you can do about it. President Obama never promised to be a shrinking violet and he for damn sure attacked Senator McCain during the campaign. Remember the Keating 5 website? The American people are seeing who really runs the GOP and thats a major win for all of us.

  • hickoryduck

    Dear Scherer:

    GIVE ME A BREAK.

    The White House has spent a total of maybe 20 minutes on Rush in the last week. The Republicans are the ones causing their own meltdown. It’s nice to see your new beat has not lifted the fog from your GOP loving-brain.

  • michaelscherer

    greenlyfe, I don’t see anything wrong with saying you do not want any political leader to succeed in his policy goals. It happens all the time, and is the basis of a free democracy.
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    For the full context of Limbaughs remarks, see here:
    http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_011609/content/01125113.guest.html

  • hickoryduck

    Also, when McCain spent the last 2 or 3 months of the campaign on those distractions, his polling numbers plummeted. Yet Obama’s are at an all-time high. How do you explain that? Oh right, YOU CAN’T. Because that’s not what’s happening.

  • newfloridian

    Ouch! I guess the Democrats are doing something right for you to holler FIRE!!
    The truth that Limbaugh is the leader of the Republican Party is not only spot on, but proven every day by the apologies by prominent Repubs who cross him. Sort of a Godfather type thing. “Sorry Oh Godfather I have disappointed you.” Limbaugh owns the so called producers and directors of the Republican cause. And you know it. Obviously now you have gotten the message to try and tamp down the reality that Rush owns the party. Did you kiss Rush’s ring on the way out of the meeting or his AZZZ.

  • http://smoothlikeremy.blogspot.com/ sgwhiteinfla

    Right Scherer, especially when President Obama’s economic policy goals are to repair the economy for the short term and the future. I mean who would want him to do some silly sh*t like that.
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    What. A. Dumb. Ass.

  • Jim, Foolish Literalist

    Shorter version for those with better things to do than read this:

    Scherer is very Concerned.
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    What a tiresome waste of time and pixels.
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    And it’s “Gable”.

  • alaskanturkey

    Interesting comparison, although Gable supported the New Deal and Rush is a big fat idiot.

  • rustyreturns

    Thanks for pointing out the double standards set by the MSM, Michael. So much for the democrats responding to “phone outrage”. So much for not hiring lobbyists into your administration for fear of conflict of interest. So much for most all of Obama’s pledges made during the campaign, with the exception of funding for ACORN and Planned Parenthood’s abortion campaign rebirth.

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    No our dear leader and his horde of cohorts are demonstrating an agenda of “more of the same” instead of “change we can believe in”. I like Rush Limbaugh do hope that Obama’s plan for economic recovery does implode upon itself. I hope it gets so bad that we witness the 2nd American Revolution. I was thinking it would take Obama at least 6 months to a year to go down in flames. He is even beating my expectations.

  • Friar Tuck

    What a load of CRAP. Rush “butt boy” Limbaugh is completely fair game for anybody.

  • http://elvisberg.wordpress.com Elvis Elvisberg

    Gosh, it sure is dastardly of those Obama people to point out in a press conference that the opposition party is beholden to an unpopular, ignorant entertainer.
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    Brangelina don’t hector the Democratic Party on the radio every day. Rush is an entertainer, and he controls the GOP’s agenda. There’s no comparison. You can’t prove otherwise, so you use nonsensical analogies instead.
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    The GOP is in a death spiral, unable to dig out from its rabid base, having murdered anything resembling conservatism in the Republican Party. That is the story here. Not that someone pointed it out to you.

  • newfloridian

    Jeeze Michael you just did a whole post about how all of the threats to the United States are so important that we can not divert our attention to the problems and then you say it’s perfectly fine to advocate failure and then declare it the basis of a free democracy. Freedom of speech is the basis of a free democracy, trying to destroy the democracy for the sake of your party’s goals is treason! Everything you wrote about in this post just got undone by your 11:45 comments. You have no ethics!

  • rustyreturns

    Oops, that would be “phony outrage”. :)

  • queencersei

    And yet it is impossible to ignore the fact that in recent months whenever a Republican has had the nerve to criticize Rush they have been beaten over the head by their fellow Repubs until they collapse in a quivering mess and go crawling back to Rush. To lick his shoes and beg forgiveness for disagreeing with the almighty one.
    All the Democrats have done is point that out.
    Personally I am waiting for Rush to have an Imus moment and finally get his comeuppance.
    When a Republican finally calls Rush out on one of his BS statements and refuses to back down, you will know who the next leader of the Republican party is.

  • hellslittlestangel

    Scherer’s such a jackass…

  • hlongley

    If you mean to suggest that the President dreamed this up and is pulling the strings, I sincerely hope you are wrong. I suspect that he has a few other things on his mind.

    If you feel sorry for the Republicans, then I suggest that you are being silly — if the Republicans are so silly as to let Carville et al get under their skins, then they probably need to get out of the political gene pool.

    If you feel sorry for the American public, then you haven’t been listening to the hateful drivel that Mr. Limbaugh has been shoveling into the ears of millions of Americans — for decades. Anything that gets this abuser of the basic principles of civility off the air and out of peoples’ heads is a blessing. I say this not because he’s “conservative” but because he’s the kind of nasty person whose mouth has needed a good scrubbing for years.

    So, my suggestion is this: take a deep breath, get a grip, and go do some reporting.

  • sacoharry

    Michael, you’re just off base. The remaining Republicans in the House & Senate have tacked hard right. Limbaugh speaks many of their credos vigorously. He is their mouthpiece. He represents what the Republican party is becoming. If you want an unfiltered, unvarnished view of what the current opposition leadership is thinking, and what their ideas are, Rush is your man. I know it’s sickening & hard to believe. But it’s becoming clearer every day, he is the face & voice of the conservative movement of 2009. Pointing this out vividly helps make the remaining shaky moderate Republicans look long & hard at what their party currently looks like. It will force them to make a choice about their personal views, and what they think is best for the country. It’s one thing to be loyal to a party with ideas. It’s another thing to be blindly beholden to a thuggishly stubborn ideology that still believes the world is in 1960. We need two parties who are able to debate & discuss real ideas. Rush’s party is not currently able. This is, and should be, front-page news.

  • rebecca74

    wow very interesting Michael. First off, petty distractions were an issue during the campaign because that’s when the country had to focus on REAL issues so they can choose their next president. Right now, the best thing for the country would be for Obama and his policies to succeed (as opposed to fail). Which means Obama needs a strategy to make sure republicans don’t obstruct him the way they did Clinton (thanks to Rush). It is also a PR campaign so the American people give no credence to the republicans who are trying to obstruct. It de-ligitimizes their whole obstruction campaign against the president. I mean, seriously Michael, this politics 101.

  • http://twitter.com/pourmecoffee pourmecoffee

    SIMPLE SOLUTION: Don’t make him the keynote speaker of your movement’s flagship event and have every one of your leaders defer to him.

  • http://nicewhitelady.blogspot.com/ joyomama

    The White House doesn’t seem to be volunteering their comments out of the blue — the MSM are asking them for their opinions and then broadcasting them as news.

  • http://smoothlikeremy.blogspot.com/ sgwhiteinfla

    Just FYI, MGM payed Clark Gable $2000 a week to sit on his ass when they didn’t have a project ready for him. After he won an Oscar while on loan they upped it to $4000 a week. Sounds pretty damn beholden to me.

  • delmoi2

    Obama tried being nice with the stimulus bill debate, and look what happened.
    People in this country are worried about real problems. People don’t want people in D.C doing nothing but bickering and solving nothing, but at the same time they don’t want policies watered down to the point that republicans might as well be writing the laws.

    Rush Limbaugh is out there spouting all kinds of nonsense and republicans are defending him, and somehow this is Obama’s fault? That’s absurd. So what if he’s “throwing them some rope” He’s not even directly insulting them, just adding a little catalyst to the fire.

    Anyway, I wanted a candidate who would kick some ass, and frankly I was never a big fan of this “change the tone” rhetoric. But Obama is smart. He’s willing to work with people, but he’s willing to fight if things get tough. It’s the best of both worlds, and for Obama to unilaterally disarm would be suicide when the country needs bold leadership.

  • hickoryduck

    Personally I am waiting for Rush to have an Imus moment
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    Waiting? He’s already said hundreds of things that are far, FAR worse. But his employers are likely too scared that he might sit on them or eat them or throw Oxycontin bottles at their heads to get rid of him.

  • newfloridian

    Anyone out there want to make a bet, Limbaugh/Palin in 2012? Seems like he not only wants to run the party, but be the head. Of course the Republican Party is now certifiably insane, so that ticket will probably be a reality. Hey Michael maybe Press Secretary?

  • mgs301

    There is a huge flaw in your comparison of Rush and Pitt/Jolie. The stronger comparison would have probably been with someone like Sean Penn, who is very outspoken and very left. The difference between the two is, if Penn ever said anything as stupid and ugly as half the things Rush said Democrats would be free to criticize him and then not apologize a day later. As long as the Republicans treat Rush as the leader of their party by paying lip service to him no matter how divisive he (admittedly) tries to be, they will continue to be called out for it by Obama and his administration. If, on the other hand, they stood up to him and said, Rush is just a sideshow, here is what REAL conservative ideals are all about, and Obama still baited them, then you would have a point. As it stands, the Right deserves everything they get.

  • fourlegsgood

    Oh, please. GIVE ME A FREAKING BREAK.
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    You obviously sat up late last night fretting about this. If the republicans want to chase their tails while genuflecting to Rush, why should we stop them? And if he’s not their de facto leader, why are they all falling all over themselves to agree with his nonsense?
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    Yeah, he’s just a talking blowhard on the radio – but let me remind you that talking blowhards were instrumental in ginning up the machete squads in Rwanda. Rush is not only advocating for failure, he’s on the AF radio network everyday fomenting dissent in the military.
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    The outrage over Rush and the bile he produces is real.

  • bryanfromhouston

    Michael,
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    As the vaunted Saint Reagan once said, “There you go again.”
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    You, sir, are once again posing as a concern troll!! STOP IT! NOW!
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    You spout an article by Jonathan Martin to show tha Rush is not ipso facto the defacto leader of the Republican party. Every single Republican that has stood up to Rush has come back hat in hand. The only Republican that even said anything remotely (and WE ALL KNOW THIS WAS REMOTE!) in opposition to Rush was Cantor with Stephanopoulus.
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    And he said, “So the Rush Limbaugh approach of hoping the president fails is not the Eric Cantor, House Republican approach?” I asked.
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    “Absolutely not,” Cantor said. “And I don’t — I don’t think anyone wants anything to fail right now. We have such challenges. What we need to do is we need to put forth solutions to the problems that real families are facing today.”
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    Cantor said the Republican Party must change to be more inclusive.
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    But note how there is no direct attack on Rush. Nobody would dare do so. In fact, one needs only to look at how swiftly Republicans are turning on Steele to recognize that Rush Rules Their World!
    See here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/03/04/michael-steele-republican_n_171775.html

  • exile500

    Michael, I think I speak for all of us when I say that I hope you have a hard time finding work when Time goes under.

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    You could learn a lot from living in your parents’ house for a few years.

  • Hammerlock

    Scherer, I don’t usually jump on the “smack MS around” bandwagon, but I gotta say you’re showing a great deal of shortsightedness with this one.
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    The news stations are glomping on this faux rivalry because its meaty. There’s high drama to be had if you amp things up a bit. You have a controversial figure, a lost political party desperate to rebrand/find itself, and some inflammatory rhetoric to spice things up–you can’t ask for a more 24 hour channel-ready story.
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    As for Obama’s administration, they are facing a republican party that, rather than attempt to soften the edges of the proposals and work with the executive branch (and the other party) have dug in their heels and bellowed “NO-NO-NO-NO” like a 5 year old on a tantrum.
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    I will grant you that the administration subtly (or not so subtly) taking advantage of Rush’s polarizing stance as a way to force republicans to the table (or into the media spotlight) is a page straight out of cynical and shrewd politics. However, they didn’t start on that foot–they started with a hand extended to the GOP congressional figures.
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    In any event, Obama using this situation to get some movement from the GOP other than blanket refusal to any and all proposals that don’t agree with them 100% is hardly a sign that his outlook and politics have fully shifted to the tired old status quo; only time and further observation can lead you to that conclusion with any degree of certainty.
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    What this DOES show, is that Obama isn’t afraid to pull off the gloves if he needs to; his playbook doesn’t solely consist of “make nice” politics. If anything, I would imagine this would hearten some of his detractors that don’t feel he has the stones for confrontation.

  • fourlegsgood

    greenlyfe, I don’t see anything wrong with saying you do not want any political leader to succeed in his policy goals. It happens all the time, and is the basis of a free democracy.
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    Nice to know. What a putz you are. Pathetic. People are losing their homes and their livelihoods on a daily basis. Failure of the government means more pain for american citizens.
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    Funny, but I DO see something wrong in rooting for that.

  • http://twitter.com/pourmecoffee pourmecoffee

    Michael, there is abundant empirical evidence of Rush’s leadership position. He was feted by the President. Keynoted the single most meaningful movement event. Singled out in speech after speech by party leaders as such. Voted most influential. Now, apply those measurable standards to Angelina Jolie. Please be serious-minded.

  • teresakopec

    I understand your concern, but let’s be honest. If cable wasn’t covering Rush, they would NOT be covering important topics. They would be chasing down Jim Cramer & Rick Santelli & giving them time to rant. When Obama announced that we were leaving Iraq, cable went right back to the Chandra Levy story. You need to direct your complaints to CNN, FOX & MSNBC.

  • newfloridian

    The Pitt/Jolie reference Michael? Why bring them into this? They don’t seem political. They’re just busy making or adopting babies and shooting films to keep up their lifestyles. Yeah they do the red carpet nicely, but they don’t really have anything to do with hollywood power. This is the short of nonsensical reference I would expect from rusty or hulagate. If you’re having a bad day maybe Rush can share some of his medications with you.

  • billiecat

    So Rush Limbaugh, who previously called the opposition during the Bush years traitors, is now a practitioner of reasoned dissent and “the basis of democracy” for hoping Obama and the stimulus plan fail?
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    I had a long response typed up, but I’ll go with the shorter EPIC FAIL Michael Scherer.

  • Joe Bftsplk

    Here’s the new meme-
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    RUSH LIMBAUGH IS A COWARD
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    By comparison, “entertainer” Al Franken had the guts to put his money where his mouth is and run for office to try to do something.
    Rush can’t handle responsiblity. He just wants to take potshots.

  • http://twitter.com/pourmecoffee pourmecoffee

    Do you even remember why he was at CPAC? To accept the DEFENDER OF THE CONSTITUTION award. NOT the “Entertainer of the Year” award – which presumably goes every year to Lee Greenwood. If you want Rush to be treated like an entertainer, have the right stop treating him like a leader. End of story.

  • http://privcorr.blogspot.com/ wvng

    mgs: The difference between the two is, if Penn ever said anything as stupid and ugly as half the things Rush said Democrats would be free to criticize him and then not apologize a day later. More importantly, dems WOULD criticize him.
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    As for MS, transparent much? I wonder if, like Erik Erickson, MS would be reduced to stammering at the foot of the master? atrios: We’re Not Laughing With You We’re laughing at you. Really.
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    This is just embarrassing. Even Halperin gets it.

  • Joe Bftsplk

    MS-
    I suppose if you believe that the debacles of the past 8 years were all Clinton’s fault, I suppose you could also believe that public attention turning to the frothing maelstrom of sputum that is Rush Limbaugh is Obama’s fault.

  • http://smoothlikeremy.blogspot.com/ sgwhiteinfla

    pourme
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    You can’t be bringing Lee Greenwood into this now. He didn’t do nuthin to nobody!!!
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    I think I ruined my computer with a mouthful of Dr Pepper lol.

  • http://twitter.com/pourmecoffee pourmecoffee

    sgw – I laugh every time I picture him in his flag coat milking it one more time.

  • middlegirl

    Michael, I saw you on the tee-vee and frankly dude, you look like you are about twelve. Honestly, I think a twelve year old might be a little more insightful.

    David Frum, who I normally would not quote said it far better than I could about the value of creating this contrast between the president and Rush.

    “On the one side, the president of the United States: soft-spoken and conciliatory, never angry, always invoking the recession and its victims. This president invokes the language of “responsibility,” and in his own life seems to epitomize that ideal: He is physically honed and disciplined, his worst vice an occasional cigarette. He is at the same time an apparently devoted husband and father. Unsurprisingly, women voters trust and admire him.

    And for the leader of the Republicans? A man who is aggressive and bombastic, cutting and sarcastic, who dismisses the concerned citizens in network news focus groups as “losers.” With his private plane and his cigars, his history of drug dependency and his personal bulk, not to mention his tangled marital history, Rush is a walking stereotype of self-indulgence – exactly the image that Barack Obama most wants to affix to our philosophy and our party. And we’re cooperating! Those images of crowds of CPACers cheering Rush’s every rancorous word – we’ll be seeing them rebroadcast for a long time.”

    http://newmajority.com/ShowScroll.aspx?ID=d22fe4c9-6f8c-4c0d-93af-aed79ad3b467

  • mccainfluffer

    Shorter Michael: “If only the upstanding members of the chattering class (cable news, pundits, etc.) weren’t being forced by Obama and the Democrats to talk about Rush Limbaugh and the implosion of the GOP, they would be dealing with the important issues of the day.”

    Should they be talking about “serious” issues, like whether Obama prefers Diet Coke or Pepsi?

    A reoccurring theme in your posts seems to be that the press are powerless and can only talk about whatever the people in power tell them to talk about. Can’t people in your position write (report on) whatever issue they think is important?

    What “serious” issue would the Cable TV chatterers be yapping about if they weren’t talking about Rush/GOP? Would they be examining the details of our financial mess? Or would they perhaps cover important issues like the Octuplet Mom?

    The stupid dialog about Rush and the GOP is par for the course for our talking head class of cable pundits. If this type of discourse bothers you, I have a suggestion: Write about important issues

  • sy2d

    Republicans in Congress are not the only losers. The American people also lose. At a time of unprecedented threats to the United States, a time of financial collapse, bank failures and record layoffs, at a time when the credit crisis has not been solved, and the stock market is in free fall, at a time of stagnating wars, rising terrorism in Pakistan and growing nuclear potential in Iran, the White House has done the easy thing. It has asked the American people to focus their attention not on solving the problems, but on a big-mouthed entertainer in Florida. This may be smart politics. But it is also the same petty strategy that John McCain employed during the presidential campaign, the one that our new president promised to rise above.

    “You can’t listen to Limbaugh and do nothing.”
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    When republicans in Congress listen to Limbaugh and attempt to stall the relief Americans need to move forward, they lose because they see their representatives serving Rush rather than their constituents.
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    Get a clue. Dumb. ass.
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  • Jim, Foolish Literalist

    teresakopec Says:
    Wednesday, March 4, 2009 at 12:04 pm
    I understand your concern, but let’s be honest. If cable wasn’t covering Rush, they would NOT be covering important topics. They would be chasing down Jim Cramer & Rick Santelli & giving them time to rant.

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    Good point. The Obamas are playing the political media field we have, not the one we wish we had.

  • donovong

    What’s wrong, Mikey? The White House won’t provide you with a tire swing, like Uncle John did?

  • Friar Tuck

    Way to get your thread count up there, Mikey.
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    F@cking tool.

  • bryanfromhouston

    What sy2d said.
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    Rush has 2 million listeners, and I bet that number is exaggerated.
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    But even if it is not, what district does he represent, office does he hold, and what people are responsible to him?
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    Get Serious. Rush represents Rush. Your defense of him is sick.

  • Jim, Foolish Literalist

    How did the Obama White House trick CNN into broadcasting Limbloat’s speech to the nutbags, live and without commercial interruption?

  • sy2d

    Don’t know how I missed this contradiction:

    At a time of unprecedented threats to the United States, a time of financial collapse, bank failures and record layoffs, at a time when the credit crisis has not been solved, and the stock market is in free fall, at a time of stagnating wars, rising terrorism in Pakistan and growing nuclear potential in Iran,…

    Wait for it:

    … I don’t see anything wrong with saying you do not want any political leader to succeed in his policy goals. It happens all the time, and is the basis of a free democracy.

    Your slip is showing.

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    So, the strategists figured, why not turn the turn Republican Party into a Limbaughesque caricature.
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    Micheal, I hate to break this to you but the strategists had nothing to do with it. As long as the Republican strategy includes bowing to the lowest common denominator, allowing Rush Limbaugh and Newsmax and Anne Coulter and Michelle Malkin to set their agenda, then they deserve every iota of ridicule and marginalization they get.
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    Part of the process of solving our real problems includes getting the idiots out of the way so they don’t do any more real damage. If your feelings get hurt in the process, I’d suggest a little more self reflection is in order. You might just be part of the problem!!!

  • Cliff

    Hahahahaha!
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    That tears it – Michael Scherer is an old woman. He drinks weak tea, and dresses little dogs in sweaters, and doesn’t understand what everyone saw in that Elvis fellow.
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    The pearls have been clutched. The couch has been fainted upon.

  • http://privcorr.blogspot.com/ wvng

    JimFL, could it be that CNN thinks he is an important political voice in America? Perhaps that was why they cut to Limbaugh for his comments just before Obama’s first press conference as Pres-Elect. Surely, the most trusted name in news would not cut to a performer at such an important moment.
    .
    MS is crying us a river, but the reality is that this moment has needed to come for a very very long time. Only is this way does the party of rusty and hula and textee become exposed to the light of day.

  • mccainfluffer

    Congrats, Michael. They’re mocking you on Media Matters:

    http://mediamatters.org/countyfair/200903040018?show=1

  • Jim, Foolish Literalist

    wvng: Howie Kurtz (R-WaPo, CNN) argued the other day that Limbloat’s speech was, in fact, the equivalent of a presidential address.

  • http://privcorr.blogspot.com/ wvng

    This seems relevant somehow. Benen: THEY BELIEVE THEIR OWN PROPAGANDA?….
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    It’s the subject of perennial debate: when Republican officials repeat obvious falsehoods, are they deliberately trying to deceive, or are they just woefully confused? … It’s hard to say if Bono Mack is typical of her caucus, but if she is, imagine how much better the political system would function if Republicans simply stopped believing their own misguided propaganda?

  • bobcn1

    Are those mean old Democrats being mean to poor little Rush? That’s not change we can believe in!
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    Michael, you clearly prefer the Democrats of the good old days — when Rush and his minions could punch a Democrat in the face and the Democrat would respond by apologizing for hurting Rush’s fist. You’re absolutely shocked to see Democratic politicians effectively practicing politics.
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    Republicans are good on the attack (and they attack constantly), but they whine like little girls when an attack is directed back at them.

  • bryanfromhouston

    Mccainfluffer,
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    That was not mocking, that was a BEAT DOWN! Severely about the head and neck!
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    Further, one more thing should not be missed. Wasn’t it Rush who tried to get his followers to drink the Kool-Aid and vote for Hillary because he thought she would be easier to defeat in a general election?
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    Rush has had outsize (literally and figuratively) influence on GOP policy for a long while now. This kid wasn’t just born last night.

  • Benny

    Question: Can anyone find a single word** of criticism about Limbaugh or the cable networks in Scherer’s post? Because I can’t.
    .
    What Scherer DOES say is that Limbaugh is “talented”, a “powerful communicator”, and a “famous”, “popular” “Clark Gable” (I assume Scherer isn’t comparing physiques.) Oh, and Limbaugh’s desire for “the magic Negro” to fail is perfectly “reasonable” in Scherer’s view.
    .
    Scherer, on the hyping of the story by the cable networks: …crickets…
    .
    Now, Obama, according to Scherer, is “petty” and possibly not as believable as we dupes thought he was, and he’s cooking-up a fake controversy because Gibbs is answering questions from the media about Limbaugh’s comments.
    .

    ** Oh, wait: Scherer says Rush is “big-mouthed”. Yep-that was everyone’s main complaint about Mussolini, too.

  • FlownOver

    Wrong, wrong, wrong… as usual.
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    To the (extremely limited) extent the administration has any interest in Limbaugh at all, that interest is a minor tactic. Americans are increasingly dissatisfied with Publicans choosing partisanship over consensus, and the personification of partisanship in Rush Limbaugh serves to make that choice clearer. Publicans can put on their Rush LImbaugh kneepads or they can come to the table as serious policy participants. In the former case, their rote opposition on substantive issues will be seen as irrelevant Lunatic Fringe politics; in the latter, the extremist views of other Publicans are increasingly discredited as bipartisanship is advanced.
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    And if you (MS) really think this is a Big Deal for the Obama administration your capacity for judgment is altogether inconsistent with assignment to the White House.

  • http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=18144 Balloon Juice » Blog Archive » Team Swampland’s petty Obama strategy

    [...] Michael Scherer is at it again: [...]

  • rustyreturns

    bryanfromhouston Says:
    Wednesday, March 4, 2009 at 12:20 pm
    What sy2d said.
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    Rush has 2 million listeners, and I bet that number is exaggerated.

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    Actually bryanfromhouston, it is over 20 million listners now. Here is a link to the number one rated magazine that covers radio’s top 20. Howard Stern dropped to number 12. Now you know why Bill Clinton wants to bring back the Fairness Doctrine abolished many years ago by Reagan.
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    http://talkers.com/online/?p=267
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    Enjoy!

  • dencal26

    Rush is correct on many issues. Why is Obama using hate politics? Just answer Rush on the issues,

  • spacemonkey7

    What connection (if any) does this apparent media strategy have with the percolating Fairness Doctrine fight?

  • http://twitter.com/pourmecoffee pourmecoffee

    The current Republican leadership is virgin-born, we are to believe. George Bush, it’s actual leader for 8 years, we are told was really not its leader. It’s clear spiritual guru, we are told, is not either. Boehner, McConnell and Cantor just walked out of a manger last month.

  • Matt

    The GOP wanted to play hardball with Obama, so they’re only getting it back.

    And the Republicans could haves snuffed this out immediately by calling the strategy it for what it is and firmly telling America that Rush is not the GOP.

    Instead, they are the ones looking foolish and petty in trying to sell Limbaugh as the savior of the country and falling all over themselves to apologize when they do speak some common sense on Limbaugh.

    http://www.political-buzz.com/

  • http://elvisberg.wordpress.com Elvis Elvisberg

    This post is obviously wrong, and provably false. The Media Matters post has a good summary of why– Limbaugh is feted by the GOP, no one is permitted to criticize him, and it’s a matter of huge internal GOP debate right now (as in the Frum-NR discussion).
    -
    So it’d be more fruitful to use this thread to discuss what drove Michael to make this post. I suspect it’s that he internalized the “GOP always strong, Dems always weak and divided” narrative that Joe Klein invented and has since abandoned. I’m open to the view that it reflects deeper psychological issues, though.

  • bryanfromhouston

    Rusty,
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    We don’t need or want a fairness doctrine. Seriously.
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    Right now, Publicans have the equivalent of Jim Jones handing out the political Kool-Aid.
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    I welcome the day when Rush’s, Newt’s, Michelle Malkin, Ann Coulter, Sarah Palin, Bobby Jindal, Eric Cantor and Joe the Plumber’s [I can't believe they are actually the intellectual heavy weights in your party] are given the microphone to expose their policies to the light of day.
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    Like Obama, that is a debate that I welcome. Tax cuts! Bring it on! Nationalization! Bring it on! Iraq War Policy! Bring it on! Health care! Really, just Bring it, baby, Bring IT!

  • piper1

    I realize the year is still young, but I would like to nominate this post as the dumbest, most off-target blog post of the year.
    .
    Pretty embarassing stuff, Scherer. Glad to know you have no problem whatsoever with the Root to Fail caucus, headed by drug-addicted blowhard Rush Limbaugh.

  • commonsense84

    Are you serious???!!

    Lets be clear on something… went Santelli made his little rant on TV… the very next day it was the PRESS asking Robert Gibbs for a response during the press briefing.

    When that hot head from CNBC’s Mad Money had his little rant on TV yesterday it was the PRESS once again asking Robert Gibbs for a response a couple of hours later in the press briefing.

    When Rush Limbo made his “I want the President to fail” comment… it was… wait for it…. THE PRESS asking the Obama administration for a RESPONSE!

    DON’T FAULT THEM FOR RESPONDING!

    Just because Obama made the comment about focusing on bigger issues during the campaign doesn’t mean that he has to take these cheap shots at him like a PUNK! Quite frankly I would be upset if Obama didn’t respond because these are people with air time spewing this garbage to the American people… so it has to be addressed!

    And besides, if Obama didn’t respond, this crap that you wrote wouldn’t be about Obama engaging in an spat with Limbo… it would be about whether or not Obama is afraid of Limbo because he refuses to respond!! AND YOU KNOW IT’S TRUE SO LETS JUST CUT THE BS!

    And I don’t give a damn if it’s a free country or not, ANYONE WANTING THE PRESIDENT TO FAIL WANTS AMERICA TO FAIL!
    Just think about, even if you don’t agree with his policy’s suppose they work… then what?? I didn’t agree with Bush, but I didn’t want him to fail because that means we would be 10 times worse off than we are now! It’s immature, selfish, petty, ignorant, arrogant, and just plain STUPID to hope that the President fails.

    The people sleeping on the streets in this country doesn’t need the President to fail, the men and women that have lost their job doesn’t want Obama to fail… And neither does the men and women fighting in wars need him to fail!

    Stop making excuses for Rush’s comment!

  • dunedweller

    the White House has done the easy thing. It has asked the American people to focus their attention not on solving the problems, but on a big-mouthed entertainer in Florida.
    .
    Yes… I remember that speech Obama made when he asked the American people to do this. And I remember thinking, who is big-mouthed entertainer in Florida? And why is he more important than solving the problems? But then when I did focus on it (thanks to Obama) I realized that the big-mouthed, bigoted, sack of sh!t entertainer guy is the one who encourages the failure of our president and therefore our country every single day, and he just happens to run the Republican party. So I guess it was good Obama brought my attention to him after all.

  • southernbell49

    What an absolutely worthless piece of dreck.

    It’s crap like this that made me stop reading Politico. And I only stay here because of KT, Joe and of course the wonderful insights offered by my fellow Swamplanders.

    The meme has been sent out and all good litle MSMers are dutifully toeing the line.

  • Paul-no not that one

    There is no way that MS came up with this on his own. The three days of “this is beneath me” followed by the jujitsu of having the Steele/Rush slapdown turn into a WH/Rush deal is as funny as it is transparent.
    Fraud.

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    An interesting pattern emerges when I read the Johnathan Martin post.
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    Carville and Begala
    Carville and Begala
    Carville and Begala
    Carville and Begala
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    I know when I see those names ‘close to Obama’ is the first thing that springs to mind!
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    What do you suppoe that means?
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    It all Obama’s fault.
    I guess Scherer’s idea of ‘a new kind of politics’ is rolling over and playing dead while your agenda’s being sabotaged and the IQ of your opposition is plummeting.

  • http://tinselwing.wordpress.com/ nicteis

    Michael has it backwards. The more that Democrats hold Republicans’ feet to the fire over whether they kowtow to Rush or are willing to criticize him, the greater service they are doing to the nation, and to the Grand Old Party.

    Because the GOP has to pass through a crucible now. If they are ever to regain status as more than a regional organization serving the dwindling cohort of Dixie racists and the ultra-rich – if they are to ever to become again the party of Main Street, and a valuable counterweight to (what may again get to be, though it’s far from it now) liberal extremes of egalitarianism and utopianism – they must repudiate what they have become. And Rush is the quintessential embodiment of what they have become.

    The country needs two credible parties. Until Republicans stand up like men and repudiate their own bloated talk radio id, it will have only one. That’s bad for democracy. Forcing the issue over Rush’s intemperate nihilism can only accelerate a necessary process. In the very short term, yes, that increases Obama’s clout. In the long term, it’s the only thing that can restore the polity to balance.

  • http://smoothlikeremy.blogspot.com/ sgwhiteinfla

    I have a question. Does anybody remember Scherer making this statement DURING the campaign?
    .

    But it is also the same petty strategy that John McCain employed during the presidential campaign,

  • rustyreturns

    The only thing Limbaugh is wrong about on this specific topic of the day is the “wishing” part of failure for Obama’s agenda. There is no wishing anymore, Obama has set into motion with his 1.2 TRILLION spending spree of pork and other various socialist programs, failure at the magnitude never dreamed about by Cecil B Demille.
    .
    Coming soon to a theater near you….”The New Socialist America”. Brad and Jolie can take their horde of “U.N. babies” to the newly proposed health-care clinic and receive free health care. The only problem is they have to fight for a place in line with all the illegal’s, who are stampeding across the border for the same deal.

  • patchel33

    mccainfluffer is correct. Although the GOP is falling off the cliff on its own and the White House is merely giving a gentle nudge with the Rush tactic, the White House has barely spent any time at all on this strategy with the media. Rahm spend all of one minute on the topic Sunday and use the rest of his time talking about the important issues you mentioned in your post. Gibbs said one line at the daily press conference and spent the rest of the time answering questions about the important issues you mentioned. The media, including CNN and your collegues, decided to focus on this stuff and ignore the important issues. I don’t the White House produces the cable shows. You should point the mirror at yourself instead of blaming a White House that is attempting to govern and get its agenda through a recalcitrant Republican opposition, which, by the way, includes playing a little politics.

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    James Carville is a Democratic strategist who helped get Bill Clinton elected to the White House in 1992. He also served as a senior political adviser to the former president. Carville remains active in Democratic politics and is a party fundraiser.
    .
    I wonder if Michael would helpfully inform us as to who James Carville’s current employer may be. I don’t actually know myself but based on MS’s tone it sure sounds like he’s in the White House.

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    Ahh… here it is:
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Carville
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    Carville has moved to New Orleans, and will teach at Tulane University as professor of practice starting spring semester of 2009.
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    So we should all join in condemning Obama because of what James Carville bragged to Jonathan Martin.
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    Nice work Michael!

  • Dee in Columbia MD

    MS — your ability to believe your own delusion suggests that you are in need of a diagnosis and possibly medication from a professional.
    .
    Here’s what I see, you wanted to generate some interest in your post because lately you have barely been able to get out of the around 30 comments and mostly its been in the single digits and teens. So throw this out knowing everyone will come back and slam you in record time. Is this just another variation on the Santelli approach? Well I guess if Maria Bartolemo can try it and Cramer can try it, why not Mikey he should try it he’ll try anything.
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    If that’s not the reason well I’m curious how you blame the Obama white house because of the lack of self control in the village. You can’t tear yourself away from the car crash and its his fault that he doesn’t blind you? Give me a break you acting childish and you should take your tantrum and go home.
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    Lastly, you’re just pissed that Obama is better than your side. You are a sore loser. BTW what’s with the Clark Cable analogy — you don’t believe that Rush looks good in his pimp garb do you? In homage to David Letterman — there is nothing so physically unappealing Rush showing more flesh.
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    PS — Since you are so concerned about substance why aren’t posting about the changes to contracts?

  • ottoman88

    Christ, MS, you are clueless.
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    We’ve had a Republican congressman, a Republican governor, and the d@mn chairman of the Republican National Committee all forced to bow down and recite a Maoist public apology for wronging Rush Limbaugh. Was this all in our imagination?
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    What family connection got you a job at Time? Because it sure as sh!t wasn’t anything you did as a journalist.

  • Hammerlock

    BTW rusty–the amount of earmarks in the omnibus budget is LESS than the amount of earmarks attached to budget bills in Bush’s first term…where it was a GOP House/Senate/White House.
    .
    Plus, its important to remember that not all earmarks are bad. Yes, there are some really nutty Bridges to Nowhere that you can come across every so often…but frequently the much-maligned earmark is simply targeted spending to enable local small/medium/large businesses to grow and prosper. Or they fund social support programs to help keep people out of jail and productive members of society.
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    Of course, those aren’t nearly as sexy as the occasional pure-vanity wasteful spending project, so they don’t get mentioned.

  • http://www.hulagate.org hulagate

    “…Limbaugh is embracing the line of attack, suggesting a certain symbiosis between him and his political adversaries.

    “The administration is enabling me,” he wrote in an e-mail to POLITICO. “They are expanding my profile, expanding my audience and expanding my influence. An ever larger number of people are now being exposed to the antidote to Obamaism: conservatism, as articulated by me. An ever larger number of people are now exposed to substantive warnings, analysis and criticism of Obama’s policies and intentions, a ‘story’ I own because the [mainstream media] is largely the Obama Press Office.”

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0309/19596.html

    Obama’s throwing all kinds of CRAP at Wall Street and hoping something sticks is not a national fiscal policy, it is a pandering ploy to divert attention from his administration’s absolute bungling of their first 2 un-vetted months of mismanagement and untaxed malfeasance.

    I rarely listen to Rush — don’t need to, since I’ve covered this ground longer than he’s voted Republican — but he’s 100% correct in hoping that Obama’s spastic, short sighted socialist plans (plots) do indeed fail.

    They are a disaster for the nation now, and worse in the future, should they take hold.

    Like Clinton, Rahm, er, Nixon, er, Obama has bitten more than he can chew.

    He’s basically running the media equivalent of a document drop, hoping nobody special or in power will actually be able to find all the CRAP boiling beneath the sea of stupid sophomoric antics known as The One Administration.

    More power to Limbaugh.

    Less to Obama.

  • dencal26

    They cannot defeat Limbaugh on the issues he spend 3 hours a day dealing with so they engage in politics of personal destruction and hatred. This is directly from the Saul Alinsky Marxist Playbook.

  • mccainfluffer

    The interesting thing about this post – are the similar posts have popped up on Politico

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0309/19596_Page2.html

    And on Time.Com

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/20090304/us_time/08599188303200

    Which leads me to conclude that Michael is a tool who is being fed talking points by his buddies in the RNC. Of course, he is powerless to write about this non issue, right?

  • Friar Tuck

    I rarely listen to Rush — don’t need to, since I’ve covered this ground longer than he’s voted Republican
    .
    I believe huladong is actually bragging when he says this.

  • Benny

    Laughable.
    .
    Scherer: “Producers and directors of the Republican cause [...] are terrified of crossing Rush, their biggest brand name, and will apologize profusely to any perceived slight, they are about as beholden to Limbaugh as MGM’s Louis Mayer was beholden to Gable.”
    .
    Sure, they are “terrified” of–and “profusely” apologetic towards–Limbaugh. But *please* don’t get the idea they’re beholden…
    .
    Oh, and Mayer was terrified of Gable, always apologizing to him. It’s not like Mayer had Gable under contract, or paid him a salary or anything.

  • dsrgolf

    MS: You just proved why you will never, ever receive any distinction as a credible, thoughtful journalist. You don’t belong on the same page as Klein. There is not a more dishonest argument than to claim President Obama is using “phony outrage” with Rush Limbaugh. If anything, the outrage is real. The stimulus bill did not receive a single republican house vote, despite the fact that there were a lot of tax breaks to try to fish out some republican votes. That is outrageous because it shows the house republicans didn’t vote on their conscience; they voted politics. And please, don’t claim that all republican votes in the house were based upon their conscience. Sen. Lieberman voted for the bill, and it cannot be possible that all republicans in the house are more “conservative” than Sen. Joe Lieberman.

  • http://derekg.wordpress.com/ Derek

    Outside the beltway bubble Politico has about the same reputation for truth as the Drudge report. In other words it is just another organ of right-wing propaganda.
    .
    I think the problem here is the Republicans are not used to being called traitors to America or accused of cheering for America’s demise. They are the ones who usually make those accusations against the left. Maybe they just haven’t grown a thick skin yet?
    .
    I would be interested in what Michael Scherer thinks of Rush’s alternative plan for fixing the worst financial crisis since the 30s. I am assuming of course that someone as loud and critical as Rush, the intellectual force behind the Republican party, has an alternative plan. How about it Michael what do you think of Rush’s plan for fixing the crisis?

  • pafro

    Scherer,
    even if the Rush thing was coming out of the Obama camp, I think it was McCain that had to suspend everything else to wait by the phone when the market crashed. Obama has proven he can do more than one thing at once. I think they can work on other things if they budget twenty minutes to needling Limbaugh and his party a week.
    P.S. It is your buddies that keep asking Obama and Gibbs about A-Rod or the White House dog or whether Michelle’s arms are R-Rated. If you are so worried about the White House getting distracted, quit being so stupid.

  • cfukara

    ” .. At a time of unprecedented threats to the United States, a time of …. growing nuclear potential in Iran ..”

    Tell us the story again, Papa.
    Tell us about the time when the potentiality was a greater threat than the actuality.
    The Power of Potentiality: Tell us about the “45-minutes” nuclear bombs of Iraq and how we invaded the country on the whim – and razed their ancient civilization, Mayan-style..
    The Impotence of Actuality: Tell us that reasonably men in the greatest nation on earth were conveniently unaware of, or in willful denial about, Israel’s nuclear weapons – and unwilling to invade that country for “regime change” and eradication of their ‘civilization’ of “hateful ideologies”- until the world’s suspicion was actualized in a mushroom cloud …

    Tell us the story again, dear old papa MS.

  • http://www.hulagate.org hulagate

    “I believe huladong is actually bragging when he says this.”

    No brag.

    Just not Anonymouse.

  • poopsybythebay

    Scherer wants to be Rush’s new buttboy like Jake Tapper. He wants Rush to talk about him on his radio show. I guess he thinks he is being the new Edward R Murrow instead it makes you Steve Doocy aren’t you proud?–LOSER! This has to go down in history as one of the dumbest articles ever written and that’s bad considering Maureen Dowd is a journalist. Your sequence of events just do NOT add up. I guess something they said got to you? I mean all of this was started by Rush not Obama, remember–he wanted Obama to fail. From there several things happened and most of those were a circular firing squad entirely comprised of Republicans–no Obama anywhere. The only thing I’ve seen Obama do is work for the American people while the journalist and the media have spent every minute trying to tear him down–what–are you mad your taxes might go up? I can’t imagine anyone would pay you that much. If Obama feels like calling attention to the misinformation campaign going on in the media about his policies, he has EVERY right to do so. I’m glad he said it. Also, if you think for one minute you guys would not being talking about Rush and what he said without Obama saying anything–you’re crazy. That’s what cable does–unless of course there are some missing white women out there. Please spare me the sanctimonious brouhaha because Obama called out the knuckle draggers on cable.

  • dencal26

    Michael sorry to dispute you but the personal friendships of the candidates are fair game. Yes the fact that Terrorist Bill Ayers was a friend of Obama was relevent in my decision to vote against him even though I was not a big McCain fan. In this case there is no content being attacked. Just comments like ” Rush is Fat” Rush is a Clow” Yada Yada. And lets remember who’s campaign was caught sending ” Obama is a Muslim ” emails. The campaign of the current Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. Who accused Bill Clinton of Racism? And later accused McCain? John Lewis and other Obama operatives so lets end the illusion that Obama was an honest clean politician cause he ain’t.

  • http://www.hulagate.org hulagate

    Rahm Emanuel as White House conductor?

    = Richard Nixon Accomplished =

  • http://lukemarshall.wordpress.com/2009/03/04/on-cable-news/ On cable news « tangents and digressions

    [...] responds to Michael Scherer whining about Obama not putting a lid on cable news’ recent obsession with Rush Limbaugh: [...]

  • gamecoug

    Obama’s adminstration isn’t force feeding anyone anything. They’re not changing the subject from what the media is currently feeding on, but it’s not like they’re bringing up anything the media doesn’t want to talk about. It’s very good politics, and i’m glad the Democrats have finally figured some of this stuff out.

    While they poke a little bit at the smoldering ashes that were the Republican Party, they are also pushing an agenda full of all the fulfilled promises from the campaign.
    Tax cut for the middle class? check.
    Tax hike on the rich? Check.
    Begin to combat Climate Change? check.
    Work towards fixing health care? check.
    End earmarks? No Check.
    Work to reform how earmarks are done? check.
    Bring honesty, transparency and accountability back to Washington? check.

    I can see being upset if they poked fun at the Republicans instead of doing anything productive. But the fact is they’ve made a lot of progress while also taking a little time out to stoke the fire.

    I call that change I can believe in.

  • http://www.hulagate.org hulagate

    As far as you quasi-professional Poynter types go, is Rush any more political than Jihad Joke Klein?

    Fairness shmareness.

    Move On.

  • http://privcorr.blogspot.com/ wvng

    flown: And if you (MS) really think this is a Big Deal for the Obama administration your capacity for judgment is altogether inconsistent with assignment to the White House.
    .
    Thanks for the reminder. In all the hurly burly on MS’ nonsense, I had forgotten that was his post.
    .
    Great job, Time, putting your useful idiot in such a low profile position.
    .
    But he did generate hits, didn’t he.

  • cincinnatus est exterminata!

    I don’t really think the Rush thing is that interesting.
    -Michael Scherer, Tuesday, March 1, 2009
    http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/03/03/the-non-empirical-insecurity-of-a-faded-empire/#comment-47725
    .
    What a difference a day makes Mikey!

  • http://privcorr.blogspot.com/ wvng

    Mikey, you have a shout out at Balloon Juice: Team Swampland’s petty Obama strategy
    .
    A wanker of the day is surely not far behind – but Bayh already has today’s award.

  • http://www.hulagate.org hulagate

    Meanwhile, back at Lenin HQ…

    “We will stop outsourcing services that should be performed by the government..”

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090304/ap_on_go_pr_wh/obama_waste

    Obama thinks that the desk rumps in D.C. will be less wasteful and abusive under his regime change than say a Clinton or Nixon regime change?

    = FICTION ACCOMPLISHED =

  • sacredh

    When the republican party finally blows itself apart and leaves sh!t splattered everywhere, I hope you’re not expecting us to clean up the mess. If Obama’s advisors are behind bringing Limbaugh’s insanity into the light, they didn’t have to do much. All it took was a critical comment here and there and then the right wing media apoplogists did their rabies imitation and started foaming at the mouth in outrage. If Rush isn’t the defacto head of the republican party then Jesus was just a magician so let’s ignore the whole christianity thing too. Rush IS the voice of the republican party because no one else in that outfit has the balls to try to take that mantle away from him. Limbaugh is your Moses so don’t be surprised if he leads you into the wilderness for 40 years. Buh Bye.

  • http://www.hulagate.org hulagate

    “…lets end the illusion that Obama was an honest clean politician cause he ain’t…”

    WE HAVE A WINNER.

    Too bad Klein Inc. can’t get to the truth in such short order.

    I mean, think of all the trees that would save.

  • poopsybythebay

    All the Rethugs are in this thread with the same tired lines; FEAR,FEAR,Socialism, Bill Ayers, Yadda, yadda, yadda. Please learn some new material–I feel like I’m watching the Jack Benny of politics. BORING. As far as Rush not being the leader of the Republican party–could have fooled me. I’ve never seen Republicans lick anyone’s feet before. Well, maybe Bush at one point, but always, always Rush. No matter who is the de facto leader of the Republican party there is ALWAYS Rush. Other leaders come and go, but Rush is always there–making them ALL cow tow to him. If licking his feet is not exactly what they do–they certainly lose their testicles to him.

  • southernbell49

    Hey, Hula, thanks for proving my point by letting us know Politico is also pushing the meme.

    The MSM by and large are like blind little birds eagerly being fed by the Republican’s regurgitation of lies.

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    I’m still trying to figure out how James Carville managed to get Michael Steele to apologize to Rush. That’s some serious mojo!

  • gwbc

    This is irresponsible and distorted reporting When you see Republican congressmen and the Michael Steele cowering to Rush’s wrath,that is not the machinations of the Obama White House. And tell your colleague to read the NBC/WSJ poll again 57% SUPPORT THE STIMULUS.
    It is because of hacks like you that the news get distorted
    You are pathetic at best.
    If I was your professor of journalism , I would fail you and make you read Edward R. Murrow and hopefully you might understand what the role of the media is in a democracy.

  • http://smoothlikeremy.blogspot.com/ sgwhiteinfla

    Why you should never trust a Rasmussen poll for the next 4 to 8 years
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    http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2009/03/its_all_in_the_framing.php

  • poopsybythebay

    They very studiously regurgitate the Republican talking points everyday. Politico, Drudge and RTP’s rule Scherer’s world.

  • http://www.hulagate.org hulagate

    Just another slap at the troops by Lord Nader…

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090304/ap_on_go_pr_wh/obama_waste

    Don’t be fooled, again:

    What we’re seeing now, from Hillary in the ME to the limp response to the Russians to the ponied interest placating of the Red Chinese, IS the ABSOLUTE DESTRUCTION OF AMERICAN NATIONAL DEFENSE READINESS.

    THAT, folks, will be the Obama legacy — just as it was with Carter.

    There will be no economic rebound in the next 4 years, but gold will continue to climb as the risks to the world increase while Obama cracks wise about Limbaugh.

    Some change, that one.

    Move On indeed.

  • egilsson1

    Holy smoke, even for Scherer, this is an asinine column.

    It’s just beyond ridiculous, particularly given how silent Scherer was during the days of one absurd republican smear after another – and even though lie after lie are STILL being spread about by republicans.

    It is in fact relevant that the de facto leader of the Republican party is a talk radio drug addict, and that few republican “leaders” are prepared to publically disagree with him. The sight of the head of the RNC groveling before Rush was quite a spectacle.

    More Scherer brown-nosing to curry Halperin’s favor.

  • cincinnatus est exterminata!

    I don’t really think the Rush thing is that interesting.
    -Michael Scherer, Tuesday, March 1, 2009
    http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/03/03/the-non-empirical-insecurity-of-a-faded-empire/#comment-47725
    .
    So what was it that happened in the last 24 hours that this suddenly became interesting IM? Could it be that it became apparent in the preceding 24 hours that this strategy tying Rush around the necks of the GOP is working like gangbusters? There’s really nothing else that explains your studied indifference one day and your childish foot stamping tantrum the next. Let me tell you Incorrigible Moron, I am smiling big time right now. Smiling because the Rush thing is working, and smiling because I know you’re angry. Your conservative movement is exploding right in front of you! All that hard work movement conservatives like you and Halperin did burrowing into the establishment media….talk about bad timing. Smiling. Laughing. At you Mikey. BWAAAAAHAAAHAAAHAAAHAAAAAAAAAAA!

  • http://www.hulagate.org hulagate

    “…By February, Carville and Begala were pounding on Limbaugh frequently in their appearances on CNN.

    Neither Democrat would say so, but a third source said the two also began pushing the idea of targeting Limbaugh in their daily phone conversations with Emanuel.

    Conversations and email exchanges began taking place in and out of the White House not only between the old pals from the Clinton era but also including White House senior adviser David Axelrod, Deputy Communications Director Dan Pfeiffer, Press Secretary Robert Gibbs and Woodhouse.

    The White House needed no more convincing after Limbaugh’s hour-plus performance Saturday, celebrated on the right and mocked on the left, at the Conservative Political Action Conference, where he re-stated his hope Obama fails.

    “He kicked this into full-gear at CPAC by reiterating it,” said a senior White House official of Limbaugh.

    By Sunday morning, Emanuel elevated the strategy by bringing up the conservative talker, unprompted, on CBS’s “Face the Nation” and calling him the “the voice and the intellectual force and energy behind the Republican Party.”

    Even Republican National Chairman Michael Steele joined in with a surprising critique of Limbaugh as a mere “entertainer,” who is “ugly” and “incendiary.”

    “He took a little match we had tossed on the leaves and poured gasoline on it,” said one Democrat of Steele.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20090304/pl_politico/19596

    You know, Team Obama really has set a new tone in Washington.

    The references to burning a black man are particularly enlightening.

    = JESSE HELMS ACCOMPLISHED =

  • http://derekg.wordpress.com/ Derek

    Other than 3 senators the Republicans are all voting as a block, like sheep, following the dictates of their supreme leader, and now their propagandists are crying for Obama to change the tone in DC.
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    LOL!

  • rimmyrimrim

    Mr. Scherer,

    I agree that Team Obama is playing “silly politics,” which the president dirided during the campaign. In that sense, yes, he’s being hypocritical for his own brand of silly politics.

    Is Rush the leader of the party, though? Here I dispute your premise. When the chair of the RNC cannot openly oppose Limbaugh, that is very significant. He’s not the leader of the party; he may be the de facto leader of the conservatime movement though.

  • Art Pepper

    Michael – It should give you pause that, by my count, the only commenters here who agree with you are Rusty and Hula.
    .
    Admit it, this was comment bait, right?

  • gysgt213

    Michael-I kind of feel responsible for the beating you are taking because yesterday I goaded and goaded you to post your thoughts about this issue. But, boy did I truly under estimate how truly stupid you really are. I hate to call you stupid because I don’t think its productive. But you really are an idiot. In fact you are idiot stupid. I would like to respond to the points you made in your post but is to put it mildly a friggin hot mess of a post. and I can’t tell were someone else thinking ends and you own original thought begins. Check yourself back into high school and try another career path. Please.

  • dap916

    If everyone will think back, try to remember how much effort the GOP put into demonizing the word “liberal”. They did a magnificient job of it and won many elections because of that. Now? The DNC is doing much the same thing by demonizing the “Mr. Conservative”. It’s a stroke of genius.

    What’s the saying…….”what goes around, comes around”.

  • FlownOver

    Politico, von Drehle and Scherer – all relying on one another, and all three all wet.
    .
    I think we’ve identified the latest and most pernicious component of Washington reporting – it’s CS(c), the Conventional Stupidity. The fact that this phenomenon shares an acronym with the waste of a barnyard fowl is mere fortuitous coincidence.

  • FlownOver

    OK, that’s “CS©” The copyright symbol showed up in the preview version, but not the posted comment.

  • http://policingwingnutwelfare.blogspot.com/ JJ

    Turning the Republican Noise Machine, that would have gone after you anyway, back on itself? That’s change I can believe in.
    .
    Come on Scherer. The Noise Machine has done dirty politics for a decade. This kind of judo benefits the public by putting it out of commission. There are real things to get done. Health care. Climate change. Energy independence. Too much is at stake not to play at the top of your game. And that includes using the Republicans’ media machine, which has done so much lethal damage in the past, against itself. (And I’m being literal when I say “lethal.”)

  • cincinnatus est exterminata!

    “By advisers here I am including the outside Democratic strategists and supporters discussed above who have influenced the White House line on Limbaugh.”
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    Any proof? This comes off as the same kind of hurried response to factually incorrect assertions that we usually get from trolls. In all seriousness, I’ve always asserted that we can deduce from Scherer’s scribbling the state of the GOP’s thinking, and it appears they have no answers for this Rush stuff other than panic and temper tantrums. It’s working big time.

  • Aaron

    John McCain’s lapdog reporter would much rather write phony and foolish lies than tell the story about what is actually going on with the country. Who cares that the Republican Party has been coopted by extremists? Who cares that the de facto leader of the Republican Party wants Barack Obama’s plan to fix the economy to fail? Who cares that the Republican Party has been ordered to abandon bipartisanship by Rush Limbaugh? Who cares that the Democratic Party is answering questions about partisanship that the media asked them?
    .
    Michael Scherer cries whenever anyone tells the truth about the state of politics. What else is new? He didn’t get promoted for being an honest reporter, that’s for sure. Matt Drudge controls The Page and The Politico, and Michael Scherer taks his marching orders from them. (Didn’t someone say at TPM that it takes a day for a conservative to apologize to Rush Limbaugh? Yesterday at 2:37PM this wasn’t interesting; now it is.)
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    There will always be Bill Kristols at TIME magazine; this edition works for a fraction of the cost.

  • http://www.hulagate.org hulagate

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0309/19570.html

    What America really needs is another Richard Nixon.

    Sorry, what did Rahm say?

    Oh, really?

    = SPIRO ACCOMPLISHED =

  • nick121456

    Petty?

    Obama is mounting an absolutely necessary pushback against the Republican assault on Obama’s plans to get us out of a mess which you admit is dire.

    The goal in this case is to sustain public opinion in what are going to be very difficult financial times, against the predictable public relations attack from the right. Whether the Republican Party is ‘beholden’ to Limbaugh is largely irrelevant in that context.

    This isn’t petty, it’s politics.

  • http://www.hulagate.org hulagate

    Obama mounts stunning economic plan…

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0309/19567.html

    Never mind the libs mocking Bush for telling people to go buy something after 9-11.

    Because liberals would never invoke 9-11.

    It just wouldn’t sync with their Mama State mantra.

  • ilehas

    This is going to be redundant with I’m sure a lot of the other posters, but seriously, this post by Michael irks me and I felt I had to rebut. A) Rush Limbaugh has said SEVERAL times that he wants Obama to fail. Occasionally he had modified that to saying he wants Obama’s policies to fail, but you’re giving him context that he hasn’t always had when he makes the statement.
    B) Rush Limbaugh has made derogatory, vile and slanderous comments about lots of people for years (remember Michael J Fox? Or that time he compared Democrats to terrorists? Or how about the fact that he has labeled Obama a “man child”?) and it wasn’t enough apparently to get the MSM’s attention. You guys refuse to call him out which makes you almost as bad as the people who buy into his disgusting thought.
    C) Rush Limbaugh, like many big name Republicans, is a total hypocrite. He’s a drug addict that has advocated for very harsh punishments for other drug addicts. He advocates “family values” but he himself can’t stay married (what is it, 3 marriages?). He said that people who criticized Bush were unpatriotic – by his own logic, he should be considered unpatriotic now, no?
    D) The real issue of course is that Republicans can’t criticize Limbaugh without groveling at his feet a day or two later. Doesn’t this bother you at all? Notice that among Democrats there has been legitimate, non-hateful disagreements with Obama’s policies (some of which I agree with actually) – see Russ Feingold and Evan Bayh. Why is the Republican party incapable of criticizing Limbaugh and sticking to their guns? And then they wonder why there are barely any Republicans in the Northeast. Chuck Hagel before retiring denounced Rush Limbaugh, but evidently nobody else has the guts.

    I suggest watching the Daily Show’s take on this and reading this
    http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/uncategorized/rush-refuses-to-say-whether-successful-obama-fix-of-economy-would-be-good-for-the-country/
    for better perspective

  • http://smoothlikeremy.blogspot.com/ sgwhiteinfla

    I guess Drudge still hasn’t linked to Scherer’s post so he is doubling down on “teh stupid”. Great job moron, I am sure you can get a job at the Corner posting for free soon.

  • Friar Tuck

    So, Mikey, how’s that whole Twitter thing going for you right now?

  • donovong

    Congratulations Mr. Scherer: You have become an internet laughingstock! Check out Steve Benen, Balloon Juice, etc.!

    Way to go, wanker!

  • garyb50

    I’m going to have to go against the grain here and give a shout out to Michael. It’s no easy thing to post something that’s 100% wrong. It’s hard work. He worked hard. Give him some credit, people.

  • Aaron

    ALSO: …
    .
    … Using his logic, if a fire starts at TIME magazine, Michael Scherer will blame the fire alarm.

  • gysgt213

    “Congratulations Mr. Scherer: You have become an internet laughingstock!”
    .
    Michael will most certainly get a promotion out this. Failing up.

  • ogliberal

    Mike – Could it be that Gibbs is reacting to Rush because at just about every freaking press conference he holds, one of your colleagues asks him about some silly statement made by Rush or Santelli or Jim “Always Wrong” Cramer? Stop asking him questions about statements made by people who are irrelevant to the policy making process and then maybe Gibbs and the rest of the administration will ignore Rush.

    BTW, the Dems didn’t have to elevate Rush. The conservatives made him their keynote speaker at CPAC. I would think that you would want to give that spot to a future player in the GOP/conservative movement – a guy like Jindal or Cantor. They gave it instead to the so-called “entertainer” Limbaugh.

    As for Rush saying he wants Obama to fail, that’s unacceptable. I can understand him saying, for example, that he wanted the stimulus package to be voted down in Congress – ie, Obama fails to get signature legislation passed. But he said he wanted Obama’s stimulus package to fail AFTER it was passed by Congress and signed into law by Obama. Since the intent of the stimulus package – whether you agree with it or not, whether you think it will or won’t work – is to improve the economy, saying you want it to fail is basically saying that you want the economy to get worse, for people to suffer more. He could have said, “I don’t agree with the package and I think Obama is dead wrong, but I hope for our country’s sake that it works.” But he didn’t. He said he wants it to FAIL. He’s hoping our economy worsens.

    Call me crazy, but that just kinds of sounds, well, un-American.

  • incandenzah

    From the Balloon Juice take-down of this Scherer post:
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    http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=18144
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    “What’s [expletive deleted] up about this is that reporters like Scherer hold up their slanted hackery as evidence that they’re straight-shooting tough guys in the mold of I. F. Stone and Eward R. Murrow. They’re not. They’re careerist sociopaths in the mold of Cokie Roberts and David Broder.”
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    And:
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    “From Boehner’s mouth to Scherer’s pen.”
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    Amen!

  • http://smoothlikeremy.blogspot.com/ sgwhiteinfla

    I would like to point something out. Barack Obama never mentioned Rush Limbaugh to the press. It was the gossipy b*tch ass Republicans in the meeting who ran to the meeting afterward and gave them the quote. After that Phil Gingrey and Mark Sanford made statements contra to Limbaugh and subsequently had to kiss his ass within a day and apologize. This was all over the talking head shows BEFORE Robert Gibbs was ever asked a question about Limbaugh. And I repeat HE WAS ASKED A QUESTION ABOUT LIMBAUGH. Mind you Scherer sits in the same room everyday and has never to my recollection EVER asked Gibbs a question. Nor has he asked his collegues to stop asking about Limbaugh. So now he is mad becaue Gibbs answered his colleagues questions and that no Republican other than Ron Paul which doesn’t count has shown the balls to say “Rush was wrong”. Rahm is the only person that has said explicitly that Limbaugh is the leader of the party and guess what, it was AGAIN in response to a question. Next time just cut out the middle man and give Boehner your byline.

  • gysgt213

    Short Michael-Rush is all Obama’s fault.

  • Paul-no not that one

    “From Boehner’s mouth to Scherer’s pen.”

    .
    “Political operatives in the White House are trying to divert attention away from the challenges facing our economy, the sinking stock market, and the irresponsible spending binge they are presiding over. This diversionary tactic will not create a single job or help a single family struggling in today’s economic crisis. That’s where our focus should be. President Obama has said we must change the way Washington operates in order to address the challenges we are facing. In the midst of a deepening recession, White House staff should have higher priorities than this cynical strategy”-Boehner’s statement.
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    So funny! I KNEW there was no way MS came up with this on his own.

  • http://ktheintz.wordpress.com/ kth

    The remnant of the GOP that survived the last election is on balance far more conservative than it was beforehand, because most of the fallen were swing-state moderates. Why Scherer feels it’s impolitic to point this out, God only knows.

  • gysgt213

    Pnnto-Nailed.

  • Friar Tuck

    There’s a joke waiting to be made involving Boehner’s a$$ and MS’s mouth.

  • sqr1

    There is a wonderful symmetry between the meltdown of Wall Street banks and the meltdown of the GOP.
    .
    In both cases, a primary cause has been the disalignment of interests between those running the operation and the underlying entity. In the cases of Wall Street CEOs, traders, and other executives, the interest of the company (and shareholders) was for the companies to engage in conservative, long-term business strategies. But it was in the intersts of the CEOs and other individuals within the company to engage in risky, short-term thinking.
    .
    Similarly, the interests of Rush Limbaugh are not aligned with the interests of the GOP, much less the entire country. Rush makes (sadly) hundreds of millions of dollars by engaging in political theater. Yes, he is an entertainer. A clown.
    .
    If the GOP were to take stock of their sad situation, stop acting in a wholly partisan fashion, and genuinely act in good faith, the fortunes of the party would improve immensely. But it wouldn’t make for great political theater and Rush’s ratings would likely drop.
    .
    What should outrage Republicans — or at least spur an anti-Rush backlash — isn’t that Rush hopes that Obama will fail. It is that Rush implicitly hopes the GOP will fail. Rush will make a lot more money if the GOP remains in the political wilderness and Rush can lead a permanent political insurgency.

  • sacredh

    There’s only reason for this thread to exist. MS is into masochism. All of our abuse is just feeding his kink. We need to agree with him and praise his journalistic skills…unless he pays us.

  • http://www.inworldstudios.com jayackroyd

    From Zev Chafets’ Limbaugh tonguebath in the NYT Magazine
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    One thing is certain: Limbaugh has been a partisan force for two decades. In 1994, he was so influential in the Republican Congressional landslide that the grateful winners made him an honorary member of the G.O.P. freshman class. He moved not only voters, but the party itself. “Rush talked about the ‘Contract With America’ before there was a ‘Contract With America,’ ” Karl Rove told me. “He helped set the agenda.”

    .

    Later, his friend Roger Ailes, a frequent guest and the chairman of Fox News, put the Limbaugh lifestyle in perspective. “He lives the way Jackie Gleason would have lived if Gleason had the money. Some people are irritated by it.”

    .

    “I grew up on National Review and Mr. Buckley,” Limbaugh told me. “Aside from my father, he’s the most influential man in my life.” In Buckley’s circle he was an incongruous figure — provincial, self-educated and full of déclassé rock-and-roll enthusiasm. But Buckley took Limbaugh seriously, cultivated him, promoted him and saw to it that he connected with the right people.

    .

    Anyone looking for an informal gathering of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy could do worse than this. Limbaugh is also close to Karl Rove, who dined with him a few weeks earlier in Florida; Justice Antonin Scalia (last year he attended a dinner at cousin Steve Limbaugh’s Cape Girardeau home); and Justice Clarence Thomas (who officiated at Limbaugh’s third wedding). He describes his fellow Floridian Matt Drudge as a buddy. George H. W. Bush invited Limbaugh to sleep in the Lincoln Bedroom.

    .

    More recently, Dick Cheney toasted Limbaugh at a dinner party; a copy of the vice president’s remarks hangs on Limbaugh’s wall at home. But Limbaugh’s real hero and constant role model is Ronald Reagan.

    .

    Mary Matalin, who has a great belief in Limbaugh’s powers of persuasion with the public, said: “Why do you think McCain changed on the immigration issue? Because of his advisers?”

    .

    Karl Rove says he thinks Limbaugh’s greatest influence in this election cycle will be as a backbone-stiffening agent: “He’s a leader,” Rove said. “If Rush engages on an issue, it gives others courage to engage.”
    .

    He provides his listeners with news and views they can use, and he teaches them how to employ it. “Rush is an intellectual-force multiplier,” Rove told me. “His listeners are, themselves, communicators.”

    .

    Rush has already picked his candidate for the Conservative Restoration: Gov. Bobby Jindal of Louisiana, a 37-year-old prodigy whom Limbaugh considers to be a genuine movement conservative in the Ronald Reagan mold — “fresh, energetic and optimistic in his view of America.” In the meantime, though, there’s the Democratic convention in Denver to muck around in, and then the main event in November. Operation Chaos is over, but Rush will come up with something new to delight his fans and infuriate his foes.

    .
    Sure. Just like Angelina Jolie.

  • wayhix

    The only party Limbaugh can (or aspires) to lead are the cocktail parties elitists are dying to pay him to attend. Sure, Republicans will line up to kiss (as much of) his toukus as is humanly possible since he DOES draw this kind of tabloid age, psuedo issue media coverage, due in large part to his formidible skills honed in the venerable institution of Top 40 AM Radio Talk Show U.
    But the people that count in the Republican Party use Rush for what he’s worth while realizing that absent evidence that he can even balance a checkbook, he’s not leading anything.
    The Obama Administration does itself a disservice by even uttering his name.

  • http://www.inworldstudios.com jayackroyd

    sg–
    .
    But it could be argued that Rahm threw a match at a critical moment.

  • davemc321

    Michael S. drags me out of Swampland retirement to add to the chorus: Sweet Jesus Christ, what a outrageously nonsensical premise. Obama doesn’t cause the media to repeat cable news chatter. The media do.
    .
    Besides, Rush opened his mouth and put every possible appendage he has inside. He asks for any crap he receives.
    .
    Christ, I guess maybe you’re trying to be ‘provocative’ Michael. But you’re just being dumb.

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    In case no ones actually noticed, what were seeing is a coordinated pushback by the press designed specifically to protect the Republican’s from their own self-immolation. It’s not Obama’s fault that the CPAC convention was alternately laughable and cringeworthy. It isn’t Obama’s fault that the rift between the monied interests in this country and the popular conservatve base is duct-taped together with slogans about socialism and welfare cheats and fueled by unrepentant racism.
    .
    To suggest that there’s something inherently wrong with pointing and laughing at this stage reflects the basic insecurity that comes from hitching your wagon to the Hate’R'Us crowd.
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    Rush is yours. We didn’t create him.

    .

  • http://zota.wordpress.com/ zota

    Scherer: “I don’t see anything wrong with saying you do not want any political leader to succeed in his policy goals.”

    If the policy goal is saving America and the world from a systemic financial collapse, I think there is something SERIOUSLY wrong with hoping that goal fails.

    The only reason a rational person would hope for the failure of our entire economy is if they’re more afraid of Rush Limbaugh than unemployment and starvation. In your case, Mr Scherer, I think you should re-think that equation.

  • http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=18156 Balloon Juice » Blog Archive » Show Me

    [...] In the comments section of the Swampland post DougJ linked earlier, Michael Scherer says the following: [...]

  • Benny

    Scherer sends a memo to David Broder: “Didja see my column just now? The one where I call Obama petty and give Rush a pass?? You know, I don’t work for the liberal Salon or Mother Jones anymore. I’m a moderate like you!!! NOW can I be in your club? Please??”

  • mccainfluffer

    @Paul Dirks: ”

    “In case no ones actually noticed, what were seeing is a coordinated pushback by the press designed specifically to protect the Republican’s from their own self-immolation.”

    Bingo!

  • sqr1

    Now, just a quick substantive response to Scherer.
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    First, it is true that genuine conservatives should be allowed to oppose Obama on principle (i.e. “hope he fails”). And if I believed that Rush was such a principled conservative then I would have some respect for him. Sadly, Rush’s opposition isn’t based on principle. It is based on entertainment. It is based on making money by being a clown and leading a circus.
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    Second, there is a difference between campaigning and governing. As Obama would say, the time for talk is over. The time for action is now.
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    Back on the campaign trail, distracting, superficial stories actually did detract from the issues. There was a point to elevating the level of discourse. But now what is important is actual governance. If taking on Rush and stirring up the cable pundits has the substantive effect of weakening the hyper-partisan GOP and allowing Obama to enact his agenda then it isn’t a distraction or a diversion at all. If pointing out that the GOP is a clown-show get things done then more power to the Dems.

  • Cliff

    There’s only reason for this thread to exist. MS is into masochism. All of our abuse is just feeding his kink. We need to agree with him and praise his journalistic skills…unless he pays us.
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    sacredh – no, this is so that the next time we say Americans want substantive reporting, Scherer can point to this thread and say his mound of bullsh!t got two hundred comments, versus nine or whatever for Joe Klein’s foreign policy posts.

  • stuartzechman

    Michael Scherer:
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    Earlier this year, he said he hoped Obama “fails,” a reasonable claim in context, given that Limbaugh’s entire worldview is constructed around an opposition to the sorts of policies that Obama has proposed.
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    This is entirely true.
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    As a liberal, I’m capable of the intellectual honesty required to admit that Rush Limbaugh isn’t necessarily hoping that America fails, only that Obama fails to implement a non-rightist agenda. Obama is not America; Limbaugh is clearly expressing the hope that Obama fails to f*ck America up (in his view) by succeeding in enacting non-rightist (not liberal or centrist) policies. Rush Limbaugh is saying that he hopes Obama fails to get his policies into practice, because he believes those policies will hurt his country, not that he hopes that Obama fails to help America in a time of great national crisis.
    .
    Fine. That’s done. I can do that.
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    You write:
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    Hour after hour, daytime pundits are asked a litany of banal Rush questions
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    , and
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    So why are we talking about Rush?
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    Are you intellectually honest enough or courageous enough to answer that last question truthfully, Michael Scherer?
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    You seem to be claiming that the political press corps will ignore tabloid scandal, petty conflict and personality politics, and turn the nation’s focus to substantive information if only the media wasn’t manipulated by the Obama administration. In fact, you come out and say just as much:
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    …echoed over the “chatter on the cable stations” thanks to Obama aides…
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    Is it really “thanks to Obama aides” that political coverage is a vapid, trivia-oriented game of short-term embarrassment? Is it truly “thanks to Obama aides” that our discourse is so stupid, Michael Scherer? Are you actually claiming that the national media is merely an unhappy, unaware pawn to be moved about the political game board at will by master players like Carville and (I’m holding in laughter) Begala? …From “Crossfire”?
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    Those are the geniuses holding the reigns behind the political plowshare drowsily pulled by cud-munching, Beltway press corps oxen?
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    Really?
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    If you seriously, honestly believe that the President’ political advisers are making a mockery of his pledges to abide by a new focus on reality, because you truly believe that there is a legitimate criticism to be leveled against the trivialization of our discourse at a time of great national peril, then how can this piece not take the political press corps’ role in hurting our country into account?
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    How can you blithely redact any mention of whole institutions of intellectually rotten, debauched, self-serving Beltway media stars (and their legions of handlers, enablers and sycophants) from a piece about “phony outrage” vs “solve problems instead“?
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    You obtusely ask: “But what is the chatter on the cable stations?“.
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    The answer is “chatter”, Michael Scherer. It’s right in front of you. It’s “chatter”. Not news, not information, not reasonable debate, not high importance events, not necessary context, not facts, not scientific inquiry, not anything that would resemble the product of a profession bound by the moral code of democracy implicit in American citizenship…it’s just “chatter“.
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    So answer your own god d*amned question, Micheal Scherer. Have the courage and integrity to put the real answer out there for everybody (including your warped, bemused and terrified colleagues) to see plainly.
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    So why are we talking about Rush?
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    Why are you, the political media, talking about Rush, instead of the realities of an incredibly dangerous moment in our history?
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    Why don’t you tell us the honest answer, Michael Scherer?
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    Can you?

  • hickoryduck

    That balloon juice posting was particularly enjoyable. Comparing MS to Cokie is like a compliment at this point.

  • deceiveinveigleobfuscate

    So in other words, making the GOP own up to their own strategy is Obama’s fault, not the fault of the spineless GOP politicos. Obama made them bow and scrape to Rush, made them agree with him that they want our country to fail.

    Well played, if you lived in 2002 that is.

    Welcome to a new era Michael, it’s going to bite you on the ass regularly.

  • stuartzechman

    Sorry, that should read:
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    Those are the geniuses holding the reins behind the political plowshare drowsily pulled by cud-munching, Beltway press corps oxen?

  • exile500

    Von Drehle is a conservative columnist. What does his criticism prove?

  • http://www.inworldstudios.com jayackroyd

    sz
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    John Cole has an answer for you. http://www.balloon-juice.com/
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    I remember a lot of Democrats were really opposed to the tax cuts, and called them irresponsible and said they would lead to real financial problems and that we had a lot of stuff. I remember them repeatedly saying it was bad policy and it should be stopped.
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    But here is what I don’t remember. I don’t remember one single Democrat standing up on national television and loudly proclaiming “I hope George Bush fails.” I simply do not remember it happening at all.

    .
    What I found infuriating about this otherwise unintentionally amusing post was that we lived through 8 years of Republicans falsely claiming that people who were opposed to the war were rooting for it to fail. That was never the case. But it’s now clear that it was one more case of projection.

  • http://nicewhitelady.blogspot.com/ joyomama

    It’s finally dawned on me that posts like this are the bloggers’ version of a flaming bag of dogsh*t left on our doorstep. Look for Scherer in the bushes laughing at us.

  • ogliberal

    sz, you wrote:
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    “As a liberal, I’m capable of the intellectual honesty required to admit that Rush Limbaugh isn’t necessarily hoping that America fails, only that Obama fails to implement a non-rightist agenda. Obama is not America; Limbaugh is clearly expressing the hope that Obama fails to f*ck America up (in his view) by succeeding in enacting non-rightist (not liberal or centrist) policies. Rush Limbaugh is saying that he hopes Obama fails to get his policies into practice, because he believes those policies will hurt his country, not that he hopes that Obama fails to help America in a time of great national crisis.”
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    I may be mistaken but I believe Rush has stated that he wants Obama’s stimulus package to fail…and he stated this after it was already signed into law. The doesn’t sound like he’s hoping that Obama fails to enact non-rightist policies (something he should do, given his political leanings/beliefs), it sounds like he wants something that is a done deal to fail. It’s not like we’re arguing between two different alternatives at this point. (and did we ever – what was the GOP’s serious alternative to the Dem/Obama package?)
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    Rush can still claim that he hopes Obama fails in passing his proposed budget, or that he fails in his efforts at health care reform, etc. But let’s see what he says when Obama’s non-rightist plans/policies are passed by Congress and signed by the President.

  • mbirchmeier

    This blog needs a ‘subscribe to post’ so we can subscribe to comments without commenting.
    .
    This thread’s too good to pass up.
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    -MBirchmeier

  • cdrwayne
  • fasteddie9318

    Michael, PLEASE read the Balloon Juice post that jayack just quoted. Get some perspective. Help yourself.

  • stuartzechman

    Jay Ackroyd:
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    From John Cole’s piece:
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    But here is what I don’t remember. I don’t remember one single Democrat standing up on national television and loudly proclaiming “I hope George Bush fails.” I simply do not remember it happening at all.

    So until Michael Scherer and others can show me the clips or transcripts of Democrats sitting around rooting for Bush and this country to fail, I think he and everyone else defending the Republicans and Limbaugh, who are explicitly stating they want President Obama to fail and stating it at a time of FAR greater consequence than we had in 2001, can quite simply just shut up.
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    John Cole isn’t being honest.
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    John Cole spends a lot of time recounting history, so that he can make the claim that nobody to the left of Rush ever hoped the country would fail. Unfortunately, he’s still claiming that Rush wants the country to fail, and that’s not being honest.
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    Conflating “Obama’s plan to enact his non-rightist agenda” and “the country” is dishonest.
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    we lived through 8 years of Republicans falsely claiming that people who were opposed to the war were rooting for it to fail.
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    You know that, I know that, and Michael Scherer knows that (although he may not admit it in print). It still doesn’t make deliberately misconstruing your political opponent’s words anything other than that.
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    You know this, Jay Ackroyd. The difference between the rightists or the centrists and us is that we know when rhetorical games are being played. We’re the reality-based base, not the suckers at the press corps carnival.
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    My point to Michael stands. He can’t talk about how petty it all is without acknowledging the press’ role in making dishonesty the only effective way Obama can fight back against the right-wing noise machine. If he can’t do that, then he has no business questioning Obama’s integrity.

  • noamsane

    Suddenly, Rush Limbaugh is concerned with the context of a statement. I don’t believe that has ever been the case, when discussing the words of his political opponents. Sort of like how he changed his tune on drug users – he once thought they should be locked up, period. Then – suddenly – he changed his mind! Can’t quite remember why….

    Remember, this is a guy who couldn’t hold on to the dream job of dream jobs – Monday Night Football – because he is a stone-cold racist. Also, the Dominican Republic has one of the hightest prostitution rates (this includes child prostitution) in the civilized world. (Possibly Rush is aware of this…hard to know, really…)

    But, yes, let’s all pay attention to what Rush has to say!

  • sacredh

    Cliff: MS wants to point out that his is 200 and JK’s is nine? Are you saying that MS is a size queen? I think our opinions dovetail nicely. A masochistic size size queen demanding attention no matter what he has to do to get it. Truly shocking from this midwestern point of view.

  • http://www.inworldstudios.com jayackroyd

    I do think you’re missing something here, sz. I think you underestimate the balance between desire for power for its own sake, and the desire for power to implement effective policies. The Diullo story about Mayberry Machivellis and the subjugation of policymaking to politics is uniquely Republican. It is not intellectually dishonest to say “This war is a terrible mistake. I hope I’m wrong, but I believe it’s a terrible mistake.” This is not saying “This policy is a terrible mistake. I hope it fails.”
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    You might call it a weakness on the part of the Democrats, or it may be rank corruption (we’re going to find out soon on that), but they did not do all they could to make the Iraq war a failure. They did not obstruct Bush in pursuing his policies. They tried to get the best deals they could in the country’s interests. What the Republicans are doing, so far, is something very different.

  • goprworthless

    Hitler had supporters even by 1945. It seems crazy to me that anyone could support him after what he and his ilk did to the world. The GOP supporters in the USA are no different. They wrecked the economy, they supported a needless war based on lies, and it’s THEIR fault we left them a half trillion surplus and bush left hundreds of trillions of dollars in debt. If anyone disagrees with me it shows they’re out of touch, insane, and immoral. Thanks.

    Buck Fush.

  • rose83

    the Clark Gable of his day.
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    MS, What does that mean? Apparently Limbaugh feels the same way, judging by his insistence on unbuttoning the top of his shirt, but I can’t imagine that’s what you were referring to.

  • Aaron

    Michael Scherer:

    I don’t see anything wrong with saying you do not want any political leader to succeed in his policy goals. It happens all the time, and is the basis of a free democracy.

    Identity politics.
    Michael Scherer just wrote a piece saying that it is wrong to say that the Republican Party rejected bipartisanship because Rush Limbaugh told them to do so. I guess “free democracy” is for his fellow conservatives only.

  • flagrantenigma

    Ah yes, Wednesday – time for Scherer to cock a hind leg and show his respect for journalistic ethics.

  • northernobserver

    Man Scherer this really stinks, even for you.
    I guess you can take the man out of the GOP but you can’t take the GOP out of the man. As far as I’m conerned, you’re tainted goods. Untrustworthy.

  • texgator

    How is it “reasonable” in any context to say that you hope the President fails (and by extension the economy fails and millions of Americans suffer)? Please give me a context in which that statement is reasonable.

    As a comparison I guess the closest person the left has to Rush Limbaugh is Bill Maher or Michael Moore (and I am stretching to make a point). Now I’m sure there is no shortage of tape showing both of these men saying that any number of Bush’s policies are failures or will fail. What I don’t think anyone can find is specific times where either of them said that I HOPE that President Bush fails at…(reviving the economy…rooting out terrorists and terrorist attacks before they happen…creating a stable and safe Iraq…finding Osama Bin Laden…etc.). If I’m wrong and such comments exist then I stand corrected but I don’t think I am. The point is you didn’t have any mainstream “entertainers” on the left actively rooting for Bush to fail they were simply convinced his policies would fail and hoped that they could turn public opinion to force someone in Washington to take a stand and stop the further destruction of America. There is a big difference. Rush doesn’t want anyone to stand up to Obama to prevent the suffering of millions of Americans. He wants Obama to fail (no matter what the cost in human suffering or economic damage) so that he can say I told you so and get higher ratings and get paid more money. In other words its all about him.

    The only way that Rush’s comments are reasonable is if you admit that he truly cares about no one but himself which might just be assumed by members of the media and the GOP and therefore always used as the “context” for his remarks. If that’s the case than Boss Rush is the most “reasonable” (i.e. self-centered) pundit I have ever heard.

  • stuartzechman

    I may be mistaken but I believe Rush has stated that he wants Obama’s stimulus package to fail…and he stated this after it was already signed into law.
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    Here’s Rush, in his own big, fat idiotic words (something Scherer inexplicably failed to provide links to ):
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    Bill in Richmond, Virginia, you’re next, sir. It’s great to have you with us.
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    CALLER: Rush.
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    RUSH: Yeah.
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    CALLER: About your comments on wanting Obama’s policies to fail.
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    RUSH: Yeah.
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    CALLER: They continue to make a huge deal about it on the mainstream media. Almost every night I hear something about it.
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    RUSH: Yeah?
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    CALLER: One thing that I haven’t heard mentioned. Couldn’t you argue that in November almost 60 million Americans voted for Obama to fail?
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    RUSH: Yeah. Exactly right. He did not win that big a majority. The idea that this country is totally in the tank for Obama is a big myth. Also, do you know this? He’s the most popular president ever! My God, the American people love him, they’ve got so much invested in Obama, right? So his first press conference after his inauguration, 49 million viewers. Bill Clinton’s first press conference after his inauguration attracted 64 million viewers. So many myths have been set up about Obama. But, look, the left needs a demon. The left needs an enemy, and nobody on our side (in an elected position) is willing to be that. So it fell to me, and I decided to take the responsibility simply ’cause nobody else was.
    .
    I was just being honest when Hannity asked me about this. I want everything he’s doing to fail! His stimulus is not about creating jobs. It’s about… Oh, we’ve been through this. I’m getting blue in the face talking about this. Anybody with a brain knows what’s in this. Anybody with a brain knows that this approach has never worked. There’s no evidence it’s ever worked. It will be the first time. This is not about creating jobs. This is the exact opposite. This is all about rebuilding the Democrat Party into an unbeatable entity. It’s about remaking the United States of America without the Constitution as the guiding light. Of course I want this to fail. Of course I want Obama to fail. And after this stimulus bill package passes, I want it to fail.
    .
    Let me give them some more fodder: I want the stimulus package to fail. ‘Cause if this thing for the first time ever does what it never has done before, we’re in even worse trouble. If it becomes established that the federal government and the federal government alone can manage the economy and take over the private sector, then forget it, folks. I’m looking for property in New Zealand, and I’m going to put my money in Singapore. I do not want this to succeed, and nobody who has any respect for the founding of this country and for the capitalist system, who is honest and who has looked at it, would want it to succeed either. We are being told it must succeed because it’s Obama’s. Well, what’s such a big deal about Obama? Somebody tell me. Somebody tell me.
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    Somebody in the Drive-By call me. What is it that’s so big about Obama that no matter what he does it has to succeed? I want you to tell me. I want somebody to tell me just why we have to ignore every detail. We have to ignore history. We have to ignore his lies. We have to ignore his prevarications and misleading statements. We have to ignore everything historically we know and make sure we support him. Would somebody tell me why and what it is about Barack Obama that makes it necessary that we all check our brains at the door and walk into the room brainless and support this? Somebody tell me: What is it about Barack Obama?
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    It’s because he cannot fail!
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    What is it about Barack Obama that says we have to fall in line, and we have to support this? Why is it that people who have no earthly idea what’s in this legislation, why is it that they tell us we have to support ‘em? Why are they so outraged when somebody would dare publicly say, “Gosh, I hope this albatross doesn’t work. I hope this doesn’t succeed”? Would somebody tell me in the Drive-By Media just what it is about Obama that mandates everybody supporting this thing? The Porkulus bill passed the House (which was a no-brainer) 246-183. We need to know how many Democrats voted against it. We know the Republicans all did. We need to know how many Democrats voted against it. The last tally I saw, there were six Democrats that were voting against it before the final tally, and I haven’t seen a breakdown since the finally vote was reached. Here is Cameron in Altoona, Pennsylvania. It’s great to have you on the program. Hello.
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    CALLER: Rush, it is a distinct honor to talk to you.

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    Because Rush can’t admit that spending stimulates the economy, because he’s described the bill as having nothing to do with helping America, and because he’s said that the plan is only about establishing communism in the good ol’ USA, he’s forced to hope that the plan fails to establish the People’s Republic of America.
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    In other words, he’s a big, fat idiot.
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    But he’s not “rooting for America to fail”.

  • http://hotair.com/archives/2009/03/04/gibbs-squabbling-with-rush-may-perhaps-be-counterproductive/ Hot Air » Blog Archive » Gibbs: Squabbling with Rush may, perhaps, be “counterproductive”

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  • Friar Tuck

    There is a decade’s worth of PWNage on this thread. It’s like Nebraska scoring 77 points on Middle Tennessee just because they can. More, please!

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  • cincinnatus est exterminata!

    Polk Award winning journalist calls out conservative columnist Michael Scherer
    http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2009/03/things_that_make_my_head_explode.php

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  • http://privcorr.blogspot.com/ wvng

    sz: Unfortunately, he’s still claiming that Rush wants the country to fail, and that’s not being honest. I think you are generally right, but not completely. I feel certain that Rush wants the America to fail if Obama’s vision is successful, because that vision is anathema to him.

  • ogliberal

    @sz

    I see your point but I think the ultimate outcome of the stimulus package failing is that America fails. Not completely, of course, but things will get worse, not better. Again, at this point, there are no other alternatives – it’s law. Either it creates/protects jobs or it doesn’t. Hoping that it doesn’t achieve its primary goal is pretty much hoping that our nation fails.

    But the main reason I’m responding is to quote on the transcript, in particular, this

    “CALLER: Rush, it is a distinct honor to talk to you.”

    And these people call Obama “the Messiah” and liken his supporters to members of a cult? The left doesn’t have their own media/talk radio hero like Limbaugh, but if we did, I can’t see me or any liberal calling in and acting like a devout Catholic who was just given an audience with the Pontiff. And I can’t envision a Democratic politician doing public penance for criticizing and/or disagreeing with such a person.

  • fastbike

    Thank you so much for writing this… you made my day, I needed a laugh.

    The idea that Obama & Co. shouldn’t push back on a blowhard hot air balloon like Rush “Big Pharma” Limbaugh is just plain dumb. I would have far less respect for the Obama administration if they took Limbaugh’s crap without pushing back.

    Thank you for your help in keeping the Petty Limbaugh going through another news cycle. Sorry to hear that the Corporate Media is being made to cover this.

  • cincinnatus est exterminata!

    Off-Top: I needed a ciggie after reading this:
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    Via TPM:
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    “Friedman is a three-time Pulitzer Prize winner, a staple of The New York Times, and a bestselling author, and thus this prediction should be taken very seriously—in some alternate universe where the news media is a meritocracy and Thomas Friedman is a competent observer of the world and its workings. The rest of us can probably relax.”
    http://www.vanityfair.com/online/politics/2009/03/friedmans-follies.html

  • http://privcorr.blogspot.com/ wvng
  • sacredh

    Friar Tuck: This is about as much fun as you can legally have. Watching the republicans do this to themselves is like watching a neighbor you hate clutch his his chest and fall to the ground. Your better half says call 911 but you wind up getting a beer and seeing how long he twitches.

  • jezter54

    Rush is quite capable of looking after himself. This story does illustrate quite clearly how Obama and his crew play the same game as everyone else has. Obama has not kept his promises of transparency, the elimination of earmarks, a call for bipartisanship – he’s proving to be no different than any other politician – lying about who he is and what he believes just to get elected!
    The only consolation I as a conservative take from this is that he has shown very clearly who he is and what a radical agenda he has foisted on us. I do not believe the american people will support this for very long when they finally wake up. Hopefully the Republicans will muster some semblance of strength is the months to come to take advantage of Obama’s bungling of the economy and return to some level of power.
    I grew up in Europe and I have no desire to return to a lackluster economic outlook and a dependance on government to solve all of our problems. It hasn’t worked there and it won’t work here!

  • kbanginmotown

    @mbirch @Friar @everyoneelse: I’ve only had time to skim a few comments on each page, but, wow! Great stuff. Keep it up for tonight’s bedtime reading!
    .
    The same people that just a few months ago said that the utterances of an ex-Marine Pastor from Chicago and an ex-Weatherman were reason to rile up HATE against a presidential candidate, now shrug their shoulders and proclaim: It’s a free country. Good grief.

  • jarais

    MS really trying hard to stir sh!t up today.

  • hellslittlestangel

    “Polk Award winning journalist calls out conservative columnist Michael Scherer”
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    I didn’t click the link. Even Bill O’Reilly thinks Scherer is a fool?

  • darlingjean

    OH Please Mr. Scherer, how dumb do you think the american public is? You have the bloviator of all bloviators, Rush Limboss, saying he wants the President to fail, digging his own verbal hole on a daily basis without any help from Obama. If any Democrat had said that of Mr. Bush when he was in office, you would have seen a Republican stampede to imprison the “free speech” offender. Why do you have this pulpit? I have never read a thing you have written and thought there was any merit to it. Could you do us all a favor and take a time out? I actually think ALL Rebuplicans should take a time out–like a bad child that has not played well with others.

  • bryanfromhouston

    MS,
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    This is as complete and thorough a repudiation as I think one might ever recall in blog history.
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    There is a simple truth here. Limbaugh is so beholden to Republican ideology that he has forgotten the true conservative tenets of Goldwater and Buckley. Those were men of true principle and character.
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    The passage from Rush above has no substance. For the love of God, man, this emporer has NO CLOTHES! How can you not see that? It is like when Hillary lied about landing under threat of sniper fire. There are things called transcripts, video recordings and the GOOGLE! Lies cannot be allowed to perpetrate in perpetuity.
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    Rush is a Liar. He has no ideas as do most of the Republican party on how to move the country forward. He is the sheperd of lost sheep wandering in the wilderness, and you’re complaining that it is a grand conspiracy that the sheep are following the sheperd. Sheep follow their Leader.

  • rebecca74

    http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/political-media/new-media-meme-obama-team-solely-to-blame-for-rush-story/

    Greg Sargent just ripped you apart, Michael. Thank you for exposing yourself as a republican mouthpiece. Or maybe you just didn’t know that boner said like, exactly the same thing. You guys are so useless. If you all you want to do is mouth talking points, what are you getting paid for??

  • hellslittlestangel

    When the Marquis de Sade heard that he had been hanged in effigy in Italy, he began “masturbating with joy.”
    .
    I wonder what Scherer is doing in response to all this criticism?

  • 53_3

    Klonk!
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    MS:
    What is this? Is it because it’s too embarrasing to see only Republicans licking Rush Limpdicks’ toes? So, after Obama and Rahm (who didn’t start this “petty” squabble, in case you hadn’t noticed) apologize, do each and every one of us have to write him a heartfelt missive of suplication, too?
    .
    Or, maybe, just maybe…
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    Maybe you are just too full of seeing Micheal Steele lick the boots of the Great White Whale**…
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    **Yes there is a problem with this scene, but whales have been found with vestigal legs, and besides, I wanted to say it anyway. Full speed ahead and damn the torpedoes!

  • flavor13

    Dear Mr. Scherer,

    I am very glad to read in your article that both you and Time magazine agree that the GOP is suffering the grips of Rush Limbaugh, and that he is beyond reproach by anyone associated with the party for fear of reprisals in the form of verbal lambasting on his radio show. The only thing I find curious is why you conclude that this was all cooked up by Obama? Are you suggesting that Michael Steele is somehow under Obama’s influence both in his comments, and that Rush only replied because Obama told him to, and that Steele only subserviently bent over to receive his spanking because Obama operatives told him to? Or are you suggesting that reporters like you and Time magazine are only interested in the story because Obama wishes you to report on it? All very troubling if you have no answers.

  • 53_3

    “Or maybe you just didn’t know that boner said like, exactly the same thing.”
    .
    Damn, now that certainly twanged a string or two!
    .
    Speaking of boners, it says on the side of the bottle:
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    If an erection lasts longer that four hours, contact your physician.
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    I would definitely follow that advice Micheal…

  • http://www.30fps.com rynato

    Michael, don’t you ever get tired of being a useful idiot for the GOP?

    you published a post very recently acknowledging that the Dirty F’ing Hippies were right all along about Bush’s constitutional abuses.

    In other words, you spent the last 8 years excusing Bush and denigrating the people who were, you know, proven f’ing right in the end.

    Now you’re doing it all over again, pushing GOP BS.

    Why should anyone ever again take you seriously?

    And what decent human being gives two sh1ts what happens to Rush Limbaugh? The Obama White House is being unfair to him? Boo fvcking hoo, cry me a goddamned ocean, we’re talking about a guy whose idea of humor is to call a 13 year old girl ugly, to tell black people to take the bones out of their noses, and who repeatedly made strident calls for ever-harsher punishment of drug crimes… then turned out to be a junkie himself whose rights were defended by one of his favorite whipping boys, the satanic ACLU.

    F*ck Rush and f*(k Scherer too.

  • sacredh

    53_3: Instead of writing Rush a heartfelt missive of supplication, can I first drink a beer and then after about 15 minutes tell Rush “This Bud’s for you”?

  • newfloridian

    Interesting, how Michael’s position is mirrored on many other sites currently by other right wing hacks. You’d think maybe they all got the same marching orders? Couldn’t be true, Michael a tool of the right wing? The only thing Michael achieved with this post is to get held up to the light as the idiot flavor of the day. Priceless!

  • newfloridian

    Ever get the feeling that Michael got beat up alot in school?

  • http://smoothlikeremy.blogspot.com/ sgwhiteinfla

    I get it now and I was stupid not to look to begin with. Drudge linked to JMart’s post and the Scherer being a useful fool decided to run with it thinking somehow that if its on Drudge it MUST be conventional wisdom. I wonder if he will quit Drudge now or if he loves him through thick and thin.

  • http://www.30fps.com rynato

    The more nattering nabobs of right-wing nihilism like Scherer mewl and whine about how mean the Democrats are being to Rush, the more the Democrats should curb-stomp the GOP.

    You better get used to Democrats fighting back, Scherer. After 12 years of GOP manufactured witch-hunts, a bogus impeachment, and a thorough looting of the Bill of Rights and our government… no more Mr. Nice Democrat.

  • thebinxster

    i stopped reading this nonsense during the campaign because little mikey was not only dumb, but he was woefully dishonest.
    i followed the link from talking points memo, just to see how dumb and dishonest little mikey could be.
    i cannot say that he surprised me.
    as i mentioned repeatedly, in past months, the real question is why time continues to employ such half-truth-telling incompetent.

  • jcapan

    Mikey, at times like these I need my bible:
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    Henry V, Act II, Scene IV
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    “For the Dauphin [MS]?”
    ~
    Exeter [speaking for the king/commenters here]:
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    “Scorn and defiance, slight regard, contempt and any thing that may not misbecome the mighty sender, doth he prize you at. Thus says my king.”
    ~
    I second Stu’s ? at 2:52pm–man up and rebut that you quivering mass of cow dung. Holy crap–you truly are beyond help, aren’t you. Why not change your name to Mark Halperin and be done with it–the transformation is obviously now complete. An unmitigated f-tool. This must be the most intellectually dishonest crock of sh!t I’ve ever read here. KT is talking up Newt, Joe links almost exclusively to wingers–honestly, could we lay wagers when Ti(me)tanic goes down.

  • middleman50

    Rush is an entertainer — pure and simple. The danger is that so many people think he knows what he is talking about instead of understanding he needs to distort the truth for entertainment and ratings purposes. That he has become the interim voice for the Republican party is a sad commentary in many ways. We need a strong, thoughtful and intelligent minority for the the checks and balances of a two party democracy to work. Hopefully some other leader will emerge.

  • http://nicewhitelady.blogspot.com/ joyomama
  • 53_3

    sacredh: (from memory)
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    …carrying them both firmly under his rubbery arms, he bellowed:
    “You will not escape! Resistance is useless!”
    .
    Zaphod: “Do you like doing this?”
    .
    Vogon guard: “Weeeeelllll. It’s a living. Perhaps you’d like to hear some of the Captains’ poetry.”
    .
    Zophod: “No that’s quite all right! The airlock is better.”
    .
    Vogon guard, clamping them even more firmly under his arms: “Resistance is useless! You will not escape!”

  • nouseforliberals

    I’m amazed at the stupidity of most of the people commenting on this story. The “reporters” repeating this story are tools of the White House and the DNC. Limbaugh is as much a leader of the Republicans as Michael Moore is the leader of the useless Demos, except Moore-ron has a double-digit IQ.
    President Obama is a fraud. He sold himself to the electorate as a moderate, but he’s in the process of trying to create a new “workers paradise.” Plus, the little passive-aggressive act put on by this White House is pathetic. Why does Gibbs feel the need to chase down reporters? He and his “leader” look like fools.
    The Demorons may be in control now, but when their worthless “stimulus” fails to stimulate anything and their fraud is exposed, they’ll be put back in their rightful place as the minority party.

  • http://www.newclarion.com/2009/03/rush-limbaugh-and-his-critics/ Rush Limbaugh and His Critics — The New Clarion

    [...] House. Perhaps this is the fruit of Obama’s training in Alinskiism. More discussion here, here, here and [...]

  • rebecca74

    Hey Michael, here’s a lesson for you: If you come after the President, we will fight you and we will win. Where were you the last 8 yrs by the way?

  • http://www.30fps.com rynato

    Limbaugh is as much a leader of the Republicans as Michael Moore is the leader of the useless Demos, except Moore-ron has a double-digit IQ.

    oh really? When was the last time that a Democratic politician criticized Michael Moore and then was forced to publically recant that criticism within hours of making it? So far, it’s Rush 3, Moore 0. Try again, troll.

  • 53_3

    newfloridian:
    .
    Why, oh why, did Micheal Schearer ever leave school, then?
    .
    Couldn’t someone just go ahead and beat him up now, just for old times sakes, or something?
    .
    This, with a chuckle or two reserved for nouseforliberals, is the most relentlessly stupid thing I have ever in print!

  • 53_3

    And I don’t seem to remember hearing of Micheal Moore setting Obama’s policies!
    .
    But when, in the last incarnation of this universe, did a Republican ever let one of those fact thingies get in the way?

  • jcapan

    Stuart, I recommend that you resubmit that brilliant & scathing indictment of Scherer (standing in for the MSM writ large) on his every future post until he responds.

  • Paul-no not that one

    @Stuart_Zechman I agree. Media to blame. But official White House comments on Rush, beginning with Obama on hill, are like jet fuel to fire.
    .
    From MS’s shorthand thing that all the cool kids do.

  • http://donedems.com/2009/03/04/obama-amateur-hour-shouldnt-a-prez-have-better-things-to-do-than-fight-with-radio-hosts/ Obama Amateur Hour: Shouldn’t a Prez Have Better Things to Do Than Fight With Radio Hosts? « DONE (Democrats Over Nominating Elitists)

    [...] via Team Obama’s Petty Limbaugh Strategy :: Swampland – TIME.com. [...]

  • Aaron

    Josh Marshall summarizes:

    It seems the Obama White House is mobilizing the vast power of the federal government to make Rush really popular among GOP nutball dead-enders, then coax various Republican officials to criticize Rush and then compel these same officials to issue craven and humiliating recantations of those criticisms.
    .
    The right’s capacity for gonzo victimhood really knows no end.

  • http://www.30fps.com rynato

    What I found infuriating about this otherwise unintentionally amusing post was that we lived through 8 years of Republicans falsely claiming that people who were opposed to the war were rooting for it to fail. That was never the case. But it’s now clear that it was one more case of projection.

    Jay, jay, jay… don’t you know by now? If there is one thing Rethuglians excel at, it’s projecting their worst qualities onto others.

  • michaelscherer

    JC, I responded to Stuart (briefly) on Twitter. I agree completely that the media played an integral role in this. As the Carville quote makes clear, the press, the dems, and Rush, all win with this silliness. Not sure how to stop it. For what it’s worth, I avoided writing about the Rush thing for weeks, and was accused as has been noted in the comments, as recently as yesterday for being a coward for avoiding the issue. So it goes. I wrote about it as a way of saying both it’s a stupid distraction and beneath the White House to keep fanning. But the media is also to blame. And to the extent that I do what I condemn by writing a blog post about it, I am guilty.

  • sy2d

    You have been labelled a dead-ender Scherer

    LIMBAUGH AT CPAC
    Monday, March 02, 2009 7:07 AM

    President Obama and Rush Limbaugh do not agree on much, but they share at least one thing: Both wish to see Rush anointed as the leader of the Republican party. Here’s Rahm Emanuel on Face the Nation yesterday: “the voice and the intellectual force and energy behind the Republican party.”

    What a great endorsement for Rush! (And we know Rush is fond of compliments – listen to his loving account in his CPAC speech of the birthday lunch given him by President Bush just before Inauguration Day.)

    But what about the rest of the party? Here’s the duel that Obama and Limbaugh are jointly arranging:

    On the one side, the president of the United States: soft-spoken and conciliatory, never angry, always invoking the recession and its victims. This president invokes the language of “responsibility,” and in his own life seems to epitomize that ideal: He is physically honed and disciplined, his worst vice an occasional cigarette. He is at the same time an apparently devoted husband and father. Unsurprisingly, women voters trust and admire him.

    And for the leader of the Republicans? A man who is aggressive and bombastic, cutting and sarcastic, who dismisses the concerned citizens in network news focus groups as “losers.” With his private plane and his cigars, his history of drug dependency and his personal bulk, not to mention his tangled marital history, Rush is a walking stereotype of self-indulgence – exactly the image that Barack Obama most wants to affix to our philosophy and our party. And we’re cooperating! Those images of crowds of CPACers cheering Rush’s every rancorous word – we’ll be seeing them rebroadcast for a long time.

    Rush knows what he is doing. The worse conservatives do, the more important Rush becomes as leader of the ardent remnant. The better conservatives succeed, the more we become a broad national governing coalition, the more Rush will be sidelined.

    But do the rest of us understand what we are doing to ourselves by accepting this leadership? Rush is to the Republicanism of the 2000s what Jesse Jackson was to the Democratic party in the 1980s. He plays an important role in our coalition, and of course he and his supporters have to be treated with respect. But he cannot be allowed to be the public face of the enterprise – and we have to find ways of assuring the public that he is just one Republican voice among many, and very far from the most important.

    http://www.newmajority.com/ShowScroll.aspx?ID=d22fe4c9-6f8c-4c0d-93af-aed79ad3b467

  • Paul-no not that one

    “the White House to keep fanning”? WTF?
    .
    A question gets asked. They answer so they are fanning the flames.
    A question gets asked. They take a pass and they are not forthcoming.
    .
    Anyway I look forward to Boehner’s next press release. At least you added your own words, unlike your campaign habit of just sending readers to McCain’s web site or posting his commercials.

  • Ivy_B

    I had to endure the odious Carville as a spokesman and advisor to Clinton, but he does not hold that role with Obama. As Paul Dirks pointed out way upthread now he is teaching at Tulane. Just because Carville, Begala, Schrum, and Ford seem to be the only Democratic spokesmen on certain cable shows, they do not represent this White House, they represent the past. If you can show me that Carville has an offical role speaking for Obama, I shall apologize.

  • cincinnatus est exterminata!

    “I don’t see anything wrong with saying you do not want any political leader to succeed in his policy goals. It happens all the time, and is the basis of a free democracy.”
    .
    If you don’t provide examples I have to assume you’re a liar. If it happens all the time, I imagine you should have no problem giving us gobs of example, but you’re a liar and we all know it. I guess the pressure of all the hits you’re taking by people with solid journalistic cred is getting to you judging by the level of interaction you’re exhibiting in the comments. BTW I gave Mike Hoyt at CJR a heads up about this article, last time I did this you got a serious b!tch slap.

  • stuartzechman

    Michael Scherer:
    .
    Thank you very much for responding to commentary, especially when so much of the response to your post has been quite negative.
    .
    Engagement when the Commentariat is up in arms isn’t terribly pleasant, so you deserve credit for sticking to best blogging practices, Michael Scherer.
    .
    Thanks again.

  • http://elvisberg.wordpress.com Elvis Elvisberg

    Thanks for hanging in this late in the comments thread, Michael.
    -
    What you seem not to be doing is separating the always-irritating media frenzy from the substantive issue at hand.
    -
    The substantive issue at hand is that the GOP is in the thrall of its extreme, discredited, tiny, hated base. They love Limbaugh. No GOP official can criticize Limbaugh on the record w/o being forced into a self-criticism session w/n 48 hours.
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    GOP = Limbaugh. That is the point. Not what cable news says, not how Gibbs answers a question, not the GOP that David Broder dimly recalls from his salad days.
    -
    GOP = Limbaugh. That is indeed lamentable for their electoral prospects and American democracy. But that’s where we’re at.
    -
    Again, thanks for responding to comments, this late, after this much criticism.

  • 53_3

    PNNTO:
    .
    What’s wrong with adding fuel to this fire, anyway?
    .
    Limbaugh can’t get any more famous, and personally, if it helps him to cement his hold on the GOP, I’m all for it!
    .
    Just think of all the nice campaign season fodder this is creating!

  • http://www.hulagate.org hulagate

    FLASH: President Skippy Obongo Chimes In On The Rush Crush
    …………………
    “My fellow Amnesians. Fashizzle and Happy Mass Markets Meltdown.

    As many of my Gaza PayPal contributors at Move Bowels are well aware, I am a flip-flopping fiscal flake, now throwing as much crap at the Congressional walls as I can, as fast as I can, in the Mild Shy Stadium hope that some change squirts past the otherwise mindless eyes of my sycophant press.

    Truly, as we are gathered here today for another Wednesday Night Soul Fest on some poor sucker taxpayer’s dime, let us not forget that I won the election with the most illegal foreign campaign funds from multiple Malaysian accounts in history, and that’s saying something after the Clixons.

    Look, we should all buy some stock. I don’t know a damn thing about markets or money, but Rezko Realty tells me now’s as good a time as any for short sales against the box, so what the hey ho. It ain’t like anybody in my admin actually pays their fair share of taxes, never mind my taxing the b-jeezes out of GOP small businesses that employ 85% of the people in the Obama Nation. Because I swear, $250k is alot of dough. Just ask Senator Al Frankless.

    We are in this for the long 4 Year Plan haul — which is basically to get re-selected in 4 years. Nothing too 9-11 about that.

    To our brave troops in Iraq and Afghanistan and Gitmo, I say this: You’re screwed. I’m going to gut DOD like a Kwanzaa turkey, leave the eastern globe to the Russians and Reds to divide, and pass the savings on to Mexican pot exporters. Just as I’ve told DEA to stand down, you too can expect to be coming home soon, as our hemp factories and Hyannis wind mills get cranked up by 2025, for the next great economic malaise sponsored by Murtha, Leftosi, Reid, or their grandkids.

    And can I say a word about Caroline Kennedy? Bless her, she’s still not black.

    OK, that should about wrap things up for this monologue, and as usual I’ll be taking no questions of merit from anyone not vetted by Rahm CALL ME SPIRO Emanuel.

    10-4 roger out.”

  • 53_3

    Hulagate:
    .
    No matter your babble.
    .
    If you have relatives in the Armed forces, they still must salute a Black man.
    .
    Love it or leave it, hula…

  • michaelscherer

    Paul-No,

    Fanning= Emanuel brought up Rush unprompted on Face the Nation Sunday.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/03/01/rahm-on-rush-hes-the-voic_n_170854.html
    .
    Gibbs ended his briefing yesterday with a clear shot at Rush, calling him the the “head of the Republican Party.” That is a fresh political attack. Not a response to a question.

  • piniella

    Limbaugh wants Obama to fail because if Obama succeeds, conservatism will be a fringe movement.

  • Paul-no not that one

    53-not a darn thing.
    Frankly this is all silly. From Rush slapping around members of his own party, and I do mean His Own, to MS turning this into a BHO issue. Fraud.

  • 53_3

    “Gibbs ended his briefing yesterday with a clear shot at Rush, calling him the the “head of the Republican Party.” That is a fresh political attack. Not a response to a question.”
    .
    Um, where in there is an insult, or even a negative thing? He’s just echoing what Rush said.
    .
    Micheal Schearer, you are the head of your department!
    .
    Now that is a political attack!

  • Paul-no not that one

    “That is a fresh political attack”
    No Michael that’s a description. If he wasn’t the RNC chairman wouldn’t cower when scolded. Nor would sitting Republican members of Congress.
    Of course he’s the head.

  • tomjones42

    Wow, MS, if you’re on the same page as Bill O’Reilly on an issue, you should ask yourself if you’re doing it wrong.

  • sqr1

    MS: You don’t get it. This isn’t all a coincidence. It isn’t a coincidence that the GOP’s fortunes are in the toilet, they refuse to work with a newly elected President, and…Rush Limbaugh is the ideological foundation of the party. It is no exaggeration to say that the GOP today displays many characteristics of a cult. They are incapable of governing.
    .
    But just because Limbaugh is not a serious person doesn’t mean that his power and authority are not serious issues. The media should be asking some serious questions right now. Like, “When is the GOP going to come back to reality?” Saying that Limbaugh is merely an entertainer simply begs the question. The GOP’s “intellectual” leader is an intellectually frivolous clown! That isn’t important news?

  • piniella

    Fats Limbaugh wants Obama to fail because if Obama succeeds, conservatism will once again be a fringe movement.

  • http://jonorato42.wordpress.com/ John O

    Show him, Mr. Journalist. Surely you have the access to all you could need to prove your weird assertion.

    http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=18156

    I was going to write you something similar, but the post above will suffice.

  • 53_3

    PNNTO:
    .
    It is silly, isn’t it. Do you suppose that Micheal Schearer really meant that being called the “head of the Republican Party” is like being called the “head of a child sex ring”? Has he become a rabid liberal and we just didn’t see the change?
    .
    Oh, well. But you know what?
    .
    This is free ammunition!
    .
    BTW, I just politically attacked my wife, too. I told her that she was the leader in family finance.
    .
    I even said it without being asked!

  • sy2d

    Damn that WordPress.

    QUESTIONHILLARY has got a new handle; same meds.

    Big Pharma should change his prescription.

  • noelle333

    This is exactly what the DNC and obama campaign did to Hillary Clinton during the primaries. They are trying to eliminate the competition or any other point of view. It really looks petty on obama’s part. They can’t handle opposition or the truth coming out about obama and his plans. This administration is juvenile! Get to work and fix our country like you said you would!

  • 53_3

    Does Micheal Schearer know the difference between a left-handed compliment and dogwhistle racism?

  • Aaron

    Rush Limbaugh is the “head of the Repuiblican party.” Republican officials are not allowed to criticize Rush without backing down and/or denying that they ever meant such a thing.
    .
    According to Michael Scherer, Barack Obama made Rush Limbaugh popular among Republicans and all of the rest of it happen. Clearly, either Barack Obama has a TIME MACHINE or Michael Scherer has a tinfoil hat.

  • ernieindenver

    It’s ironic how often liberals have to descend to profanity or gross distortion when their beliefs are challenged. Rather than recognize the intellectual bankruptcy of their position, they have to make substantive comments to the debate like “I will not be lectured on spending too much by people that gave us the largest debt”. That really is a compelling argument for spending more, isn’t it?

  • 53_3

    “Get to work and fix our country like you said you would!”
    .
    He is. Didn’t you notice that he’s a bit smarter than Rush? He not only is able to shovel the sh!t you guys left him with, but he can talk over his shoulder while doing it!
    .
    Rush can’t even watch his favorite skit on TV and eat popcorn at the same time…

  • seanmiskell

    Oh come on Michael. First of all, these are indeed serious times and I think it would be intellectually dishonest to suggest that the Obama administration is not taking the pressing issues the country faces seriously, both in action and in rhetoric. Meanwhile, the Republicans in Congress have clearly demonstrated that they have little interest in working with the president or seeking any kind of compromise, even when it could reasonably be argued that President Obama certainly tried to work with Republicans. If anything, it is frustrating that something like the stimulus was watered down to address Republican concerns, but all but a few Senators voted against it anyway. While I must admit that it seems silly to pretend to be shocked when someone like Limbaugh says he hopes Obama fails, I have no problem with the administration or Democratic operatives working to tie Republicans, particularly those in Congress to someone like Limbaugh. In fact it would be a missed opportunity not to. Limbaugh is popular with the conservative base but not most of the electorate, so it puts Republican leaders in the awkward position of not wanting to be associated with Limbaugh and his style but at the same time unable to criticize him because of his aforementioned popularity with the base. We have seen evidence of this awkward position with the leaders like Michael Steele who have criticized Limbaugh only to immediately recant and apologize. Further, this is not some sort of incendiary attack. This is not like saying Republicans don’t support America or the troops, or want the US to lose in Iraq. If the Republicans don’t be associated with Limbaugh the way Democratic operatives are trying to present them, they can easily distance themselves from him. Since it is clear the Democratics will get o help from Republicans in addressing the problems we face, it makes sense to work to keep them out of power, especially since this is such low hanging fruit. They are doing this to themselves. Democratic operatives are just nudging them on a little. Lets not forget that the serious problems you are so worried the administration is not addressing CERTAINLY weren’t addressed by the previous Republican administration, and I don’t believe it is too partisan to say that many of the problems we currently were caused by said Republicans.

    There are different ways to approach the problems we face, and we should certainly not just assume everything the Obama administration does in response to these problems will be the best course of action, and we should debate the reletive merits of different approaches, and if the Obama administrations actions in this regard. But to be wasting criticizing the administration for nonsense like this is, what is a good word here? How about “petty?”

  • http://www.popmartian.com/politrix/2009/03/ahhh-the-evil-plan/ PoliTrix » Blog Archive » Ahhh, The Evil Plan!

    [...] That links through to Jonathan Martin’s piece in The Politico. And Michael Scherer picks it up in Time in a sort of broad-ranging homage to the greatness of David [...]

  • 53_3

    Rather than recognize the intellectual bankruptcy of their position, they have to make substantive comments to the debate like “I will not be lectured on spending too much by people that gave us the largest debt”
    .
    Are you sure you’re talking to the right crowd? Is the stimulus anything like the
    7,200,000,000,000 dollars you tossed to the rich with no oversight whatsoever just before leaving office?
    http://blogs.moneycentral.msn.com/topstocks/archive/2008/11/24/the-real-bailout-cost-7-4-trillion.aspx
    .
    I might politefully point out that most of those lavish parties were on that dime!
    .
    Now that’s real bankruptsy…

  • tantef

    Did anyone else notice that Rush was dressed like a poor excuse for a mafia don? Well he is modeling himself on a few but instead of wearing his kissing ring on his chubby little pinky he has discovered that it fits better on his tiny little winkey….and yes, it is still a kissing ring.

  • 53_3

    “Does Micheal Schearer know the difference between a left-handed compliment and dogwhistle racism?”
    .
    Maybe Micheal Schearer thought it was a rhetorical question, but it wasn’t.
    .
    The answer:
    .
    The racism…

  • http://polderjongen.wordpress.com/ polderjongen

    Poor poor Republicans. They have manouvered themselves between a Rock and a Hard Place and it’s all CLINTON’s FAULT.

    Oh no, wait, those were the Nineties. They need a new excuse. Wait, wait.

    Poor poor Republicans. They have manouvered themselves between a Rock and a Hard Place and it’s all OBAMA’s FAULT.

    Pure Genius. Republicans believe in Evolution too

  • apieceofstringwouldbeabetterjournalistthanyou

    It does not strike me as unduly ominous that political consultants in the fall of an election year might discuss amongst themselves the vulnerabilities of the rival political party.

  • greasyfries

    Why the fuss ? And the broadside at Scherer for pointing out the obvious? — namely that in Obamaland, when your financial rescue package tanks the stock market, gives the people jitters and spreads doubt and confusion, turn to page 233 of the “Chicago Manual for Extricating Your Political Butt” (CMEPB) and construct a straw man to attack, thereby diverting attention from your own ineptitude. Barack, Rahm, and Jimsy are well schooled in the tactic. Barack used effectively it when running for the Illinois State legislature, Rahm rarely fails to use it on the Hill, and Jimsy uses it consistently on CNN. Rush is of course a cypher in the GOP: he bellows to the converted and tries to revivify a moribund ideology. Obama & Co. know this, but , gosh, they’re really desperate, so any tool will do.

  • bryanfromhouston

    Piniella,
    -
    W/r/t- “Fats Limbaugh wants Obama to fail because if Obama succeeds, conservatism will once again be a fringe movement.”
    -
    No, that is incorrect. The reality is that Limbaugh is NOT a serious conservative. He has no ideas for how to move the country forward. That is the fact. The Republican party, should Obama succeed, could no longer credibly carry the banner of the conservative cause. They have been speaking in broad platitudes without the benefit of intellectual rigor, stringent debate or adherence to facts and truth for a long time now. If Obama succeeds, it will be because that fallacy has been exposed to light of day. Once again, this Emporer has NO Clothes.

  • shepherdwong

    “…it’s a stupid distraction and beneath the White House to keep fanning.”
    .
    Perhaps if we had a functioning press corps (you know where you fit in here) that called out Limbaugh for the lying, obstructionist traitor he most surely is, the Obama Administration wouldn’t have to do the job of making sure everyone sees what’s going on. It is Republicans who infects our body politic that are the stupid distraction and exposing and marginalizing them is one of the president’s most important and necessary agenda items. In fact, it’s the one upon which all others depend.

  • cincinnatus est exterminata!

    Again, Scherer’s behavior suggests the linkage of Limbaugh and the GOP is pure gold for Dems. Apparently, Steele’s groveling at the alter of the know-nothing god put to rest any plausible deniability as to whom is the real leader of the GOP and Scherer can no longer hold back his outrage at what will surely be a winning strategy. Your attempts to pin the impetus for this brouhaha on Obama is patently ridiculous. Keep trading in your tattered rep for comment numbers Scherer, it’s all you’ve got left.

  • http://polderjongen.wordpress.com/ polderjongen

    Michael, so Limbaugh was the topic today? Today’s Daily Wrap-up – The Dow Jones Industrial Average Rallies 149 Points (2.23%).

    Sure that’s a good thing. No?

    Would it be okay to butcher Limbaugh on a daily basis and have the DJIA rally that much every day?

  • gpanfile

    Team Scherer’s Petty Snark Villager Strategery

    MS:

    1. If you have student loans, stop paying them. You got nothing for them.

    2. If you’re gonna go the AMC route, you gotta look at what got her where she was when she arrived here… hints… ‘back door,’ ‘Washingtonienne,’ ‘Imus.’ Not attitude, but kinky sex and brownnosing. Learn.

    3. The Rush thing is brilliant. You Villagers have consistently misread the public for years around the right/wrong direction of the country and the attitude factor. Because whatever else,

    4. We want adults. Hence you and Rush wash out. Remember this if you can.

  • stuartzechman

    wvng:
    .

    # wvng Says:
    Wednesday, March 4, 2009 at 3:58 pm
    .
    Stuart, it appears wingnuts disagree with your interpretation. Think Progress: Sen. David Vitter (R-La.) agreed with Limbaugh on Tuesday. “I hope [Obama] fails in advancing leftist policy that I strongly disagree with,” Vitter said. “I think what [Limbaugh] was saying was largely what I am saying.”

    .
    I said:
    .

    As a liberal, I’m capable of the intellectual honesty required to admit that Rush Limbaugh isn’t necessarily hoping that America fails, only that Obama fails to implement a non-rightist agenda. Obama is not America; Limbaugh is clearly expressing the hope that Obama fails to f*ck America up (in his view) by succeeding in enacting non-rightist (not liberal or centrist) policies. Rush Limbaugh is saying that he hopes Obama fails to get his policies into practice, because he believes those policies will hurt his country, not that he hopes that Obama fails to help America in a time of great national crisis.

    .
    David Vitter is playing the old game of Scare The Centrists by labeling Obama’s centrist economic policy “leftist” (in the hopes that the centrists will be afwaaaaaid of being called “liberals”).
    .
    That’s why I said “non-rightist”, because that encompasses liberal and centrist policies –which the right tries to lump together, that having been a successful rhetorical tactic in the Beltway cocktail party circuit for so many years.
    .
    But other than that tangential matter, we’re saying the same thing, wvng (and so is Scherer).

  • Dee in Columbia MD

    God,this is a cowardly crew. The GOP know this blowhard is destroying what’s left of their party and instead of gagging Rush with a spoon they are trying to blame Obama so he’ll call it off.

  • http://marquesletters.wordpress.com/2009/03/04/on-the-marque/ On The Marque « Marque’s Letters

    [...] When I saw articles in histrionic tones today at the AJC, the Washington Post, and several liberal blogs, all about a misunderstanding between Michael Steele and Rush Limbaugh that was dead and over two days ago, I knew there must be a liberal echo-chamber campaign afoot.  The Politico confirmed it (and Drudge amplified it), saying that the effort to attack Limbaugh and tie him to Republican officeholders comes straight out of the White House.  I expressed my thoughts on the matter in a comment to one of my favorite college football blogs earlier today, but then I read Jonah Goldberg’s piece on the topic and realized he said it much better than I.  If the Bush Administration had tried to circulate a preferred attack on its liberal opponents, is this how the media would have responded?  To Time’s credit (I can’t believe I’m writing this), Michael Scherer tells us they have no patience for it. [...]

  • http://polderjongen.wordpress.com/ polderjongen

    BTW, was it Democrats who forced Fox News to broadcast Limbaugh’s entire 80-minute speech Saturday night?

    You have to admit, that would be a show of awesome competency.

    Hats off to the Democrats for that.

  • dunedweller

    After I read this post and comments this morning, I had to listen to Rush (gag) on my way to and from meetings. He is seriously gloating in his new role as king of the repugs. If anyone thinks he’ll give up his crown without a fight, they’ve got another thing coming. It will be so interesting to watch this play out – eventually a republican will have to discredit him, and chaos will surely ensue. Can anyone say spontaneous combustion?

  • http://jonorato42.wordpress.com/ John O

    Marque Marque:

    If the Bush Administration had tried to circulate a preferred attack on its liberal opponents, is this how the media would have responded? To Time’s credit (I can’t believe I’m writing this), Michael Scherer tells us they have no patience for it. [...]

    You mean, say, like outing a CIA agent because her “liberal” husband exposed a substantive, factual lie that probably had some impact, maybe, on foreign policy?

  • debbieqd

    I can appreciate how you feel in these very serious times, Michael. But, we’re having so much fun with this! And just as McCain and Palin ran their campaign — well, what goes around comes around. In my mind, the Republicans deserve this bit of baiting and oh, so much more.

  • themaverickformerlyknownasbasilbrush

    There is something seriously wrong with a journalist who equates eating Limbaugh’s rancid ass with posting a story. Perhaps Scherer secretly hopes to be fired, so he can resume his former trade of servicing GOP needs in an undisclosed secret bathroom, along with rusty and hula?

  • quehashecho

    BalloonJuice says it better than I can:

    “This is what it means when people like JMM say that Washington is “wired for Republican control.” Reporters believe that by attacking Democrats and going easy on Republicans—Scherer is probably the very worst example of this, but Jake Tapper’s a pretty glaring one too—that they’ll get ahead in the world of journalism. And the fact is that’s probably been true for the last 30 years. Doing so removed the “liberal bias” taint from a reporter and curried favor with Republicans, who have more or less been in power since 1968.

    What’s ####### up about this is that reporters like Scherer hold up their slanted hackery as evidence that they’re straight-shooting tough guys in the mold of I. F. Stone and Eward R. Murrow. They’re not. They’re careerist sociopaths in the mold of Cokie Roberts and David Broder.”

    Michael, your job as a journalist is the truth. Not being John Boehner’s mouthpiece to advance your personal interests, and not to deliberately misprepresent a situation in order to drive up your traffic.

    Quit now, Michael. You have a career in marketing toothpaste if you can handle the responsiblity and long hours.

  • jcapan

    MS–Good to hear that you responded, though I’m not a’twitter as yet. I was not among those who felt you were obligated to write about this. Not sure where I come down, but I guess it’d be on the side of: if you choose to write about it don’t be so utterly disingenuous, saying it’s the likes of Rush (a la KT’s condemnation of cable news) who are distracting the nation from issues of substance. Your “I’m shocked!” post on the “totalitarian” Bush regime, acknowledging “I know I am late on this,” offers a wonderful juxtaposition.
    ~
    While I reserve judgment on the Obama admin’s dedication to progressive legislation, there is no doubt in the reality-sphere that Rush = the GOP. As a strategy, I’d say I’m just fine with Rahm and co. doing what they’re doing, portraying the GOP as exactly what it’s become, a bankrupt brand led by wackjob zealots. Of course, I say this fully cognizant of the fact that you and yours in the MSM view the likes of me as the true deviant. What I’d contend is that you still cling to notions that a moderate GOP (e.g. your hagiography of Mac) still exists. OTOH, I wonder if it’d be better for the dems to let Rushbo’s supremacy run it’s natural course. Contributing to a rupture might be in their short term interests but if a more moderate GOP results, we’re more likely to get watered down centrism.
    ~
    In any event, kudos to you for responding. I hereby declare you a slightly mitigated f-tool! FWIW. Mind you, I say worse to GOP mates or family members, so it’s nothing personal. All in good fun.

  • shepherdwong

    “As a liberal, I’m capable of the intellectual honesty required to admit that Rush Limbaugh isn’t necessarily hoping that America fails, only that Obama fails to implement a non-rightist agenda. Obama is not America; Limbaugh is clearly expressing the hope that Obama fails to f*ck America up (in his view) by succeeding in enacting non-rightist (not liberal or centrist) policies.”
    .
    Oh, bullsh*t. Limbaugh said he “wants Obama to fail.” Obama is president and, if he fails, the country suffers. And you know damned well that Limbaugh isn’t hoping “Obama fails to implement a non-rightist agenda,” he’s afraid Obama will succeed by doing so.

  • http://mccopundit.com/2009/03/04/team-obamas-petty-limbaugh-strategy/ Team Obama’s Petty Limbaugh Strategy :

    [...] The White House has one perspective on attacking Limbaugh; Time Magazine has another. [...]

  • http://jonorato42.wordpress.com/ John O

    Exactly, shepherdwong.

    Rush has nothing to worry about like most of do. No financial worries, ever, not for him, and not for generations of anyone he wants to bequeath the riches to.

    Ironically, most of his listeners have the same worries we do, and just can’t seem to connect the dots.

    Rush wins either way.

    And just for the record, what kind of a moron proudly calls their own self a “dittohead?”

  • formerlyjames

    Holy mother of god. Congratulations MS, you ignited the mother of all blog threads. Over fat dope addict Rush. I have never seen a thread go over 3 pages. You doubled that already.
    .
    Rush certainly stirs the emotions. What is he? A mouthpiece for the rethug’s twisted ideology. No more, no less. He doesn’t lead the party, he just serves as the megaphone. You don’t want alcoholic, tobacco, dope fiends leading anything. They are not capable. But they can sure stir the sewage and cause the stink.
    .
    I will check back to see how crazy long this thread goes, but otherwise, that’s all I gots to say folks!!

  • sacredh

    The conservatives in Washington have used Limbaugh for years to get their talking points out. Rush had access to senators, house members, cabinet officals and just about everyone else in the party. They used him and he used them to legitimize his own agenda. Rush’s rating went up, more republicans listened to his show and they had a long run. Limbaugh has never been elected to anything. It’s the people who look up to Rush that do the electing. He has a weekly audience of 20,000,000. That doesn’t mean that 20,000,000 DIFFERENT people listen to him. He’s on 5 days a week so you probably have no more than 5,000,000 people who regularly tune him in. He has many more occassional listeners. The republicans got trashed in the last two elections but Rush’s numbers have stayed consistent. Can they be even the least bit surprised that someone more popular than they are has his own plans? Limbaugh can influence an election within the republican party now, but his brand of politics isn’t playing at all well on a national level. I think he can take the party where he wants to. He’s got the republican leadership over a barrel.

  • formerlyjames

    sacredh, he is laughing all the way to the bank. And to say something nice, it is all clean, honest show biz money. Clean and honest is a novelty in the Republican Party. Give the fat ogre credit. His money only turns dirty when he has his maid buy drugs for him. Violated my vow to say no more on this subject.

  • northleft12

    Mr. Scherer, you say ‘this entire controversy has been cooked up and force fed to the American people by Obama’s advisers.’

    Really? Apparently Mr. Obama’s advisers have been using some of Mr. Bush’s leftover dictatorial powers to ensure that the MSM must lead all their shows with this story. I can tell because the talking heads look slightly pained and inconvenienced.

    Oh, by the way did you hear about this whole seven year stretch when Bush and Cheney decided they could run the country without Congress?
    Its in all the papers and blogs.

  • mnpacman

    Obviously the author struck a nerve with all the libs commenting… This is too funny. I guess it’s illegal now, or may be soon, to give your opinion if it does not agree with the anointed one and his followers. Face it, Obama and company just can’t take any criticism.
    Good luck.

  • formerlyjames

    mnpacman, nothing illegal about giving your opinion. You just gave one.

  • http://www.politics.ie/foreign-affairs/50543-political-death-match-obama-rahm-v-limbaugh.html#post1472023 Political death match ! Obama/Rahm v Limbaugh – Politics.ie

    [...] [...]

  • http://www.hulagate.org hulagate

    “If you have relatives in the Armed forces, they still must salute a Black man.”

    Half a salute, maybe.

  • http://www.hulagate.org hulagate

    Of course Obama would like to spend more time mud wrestling and race baiting and caterwauling, than actually doing something useful for the long term good of the nation.

    After all, that IS what libs do.

    Not news.

    Move On!

  • http://www.hulagate.org hulagate

    Spiro, Rahm.

    Rahm, Spiro.

  • formerlyjames

    hula, hello. No further comment.

  • http://www.hulagate.org hulagate

    Obama, Nixon.

    Nixon, Obama.

  • Cliff

    C, I responded to Stuart (briefly) on Twitter.
    .
    SZ, can we get a glimpse of his response?

  • newfloridian

    Anyone notice that there suddenly seems to be more rightwingers blogging on Swampland for this subject. Is Michael posting on his own subject under AKA names? Or did he get the word out to the Repubs to come support him. Unfortunately not a hell of a lot came out because like McCain they don’t know how to use the internet. Score one for “lack of education.”

  • fastbike

    .
    I think you were close, but…
    .
    # mnpacman Says:

    Obviously the author struck a nerve with all the libs commenting wingnuts freaking… This is too funny. I guess it’s illegal now, or may be soon, to give your opinion if it does not agree with the anointed one and his followers. Face it, Obama Big Pharma and company just can’t take any criticism. Good luck.

    .

  • rpopstar

    scherer really is an idiot. he thinks that obama got michael steele and rush to argue and insult each other and then obama got the msm to cover the argument….by “force feeding” them….mikey needs a reality check

  • newfloridian

    hulagate scores again with inane comments that say nothing, and contribute even less. He’ll be blogging until 3am on this subject then go to a lonely bed by himself wishing he had friends. Sad little hulagate.

  • 53_3

    Well, which one is “the anointed one and his followers”?
    .
    I’m getting confused. What is a dittohead, anyway?

  • http://www.hulagate.org hulagate

    I’ve been openly mocking the Do As I Say, Not As I Chat liberal lack of civility for the last 18 months.

    Glad to see somebody at Time finally finding the like light, even if 4 months too late for the nation’s prosperity and world peace.

    I guess they thought sitting on hands and listening to the Rev Wright rap for 20 years wouldn’t really matter, when it came to vetting the new White House chief of attack dogs.

    Oh well.

    HILLARY HAPPENS.

  • 53_3

    I think hulagate scores like a seagull scores.
    .
    Splat. And he’s gone…

  • http://www.hulagate.org hulagate

    I think the important thing for America is that the dems got Bush out of office.

  • xtsam

    After he loses the pork belly and double chin they can have an discussion.

  • jcapan

    I’m off to teach for the next 10 hours–it’s 7:40pm EST, so I wonder how high this comment count will go. Anyway, Mike, why is it that the moderate republicans that still draw air get it but you don’t? 2nd hand from the Daily Dish:
    ~
    Ross tries to get Republicans to see the light:
    ~
    Just imagine, for a moment, how conservatives would react if four months after the worst defeat liberalism had suffered in a generation, an Olbermann (or a Moyers or a Michael Moore or a Bill Maher or whomever) showed up to deliver the keynote address at a liberal equivalent of CPAC, and during the course of his speech he blasted every Democrat who disagrees with him as a miserable sell-out, suggested that conservatives are fascists and conservatism a psychosis, lectured the crowd on the irrelevance of policy ideas to liberalism’s political prospects, and insisted that the only blueprint liberals need to win elections is the one that Lyndon Johnson used to rout Barry Goldwater.

    And then further imagine that both before and after this speech, a series of left-of-center politicians ventured criticisms of Olbermann, only to beat a hasty and apologetic retreat as soon as he turned his fire on them. Conservatives would be chortling – and rightly so! Not because liberalism needs to purge or marginalize its Keith Olbermanns, or because impassioned liberal entertainers don’t have a place in left-of-center discourse – but because when your political persuasion faces a leadership vacuum, you don’t want to have it filled by someone who appeals to an impassioned but narrow range of voters, and whose central incentive is to maximize his own ratings.

  • 53_3

    “I think the important thing for America is that the dems got Bush out of office.”
    .
    That wasn’t what you were singing before the extinction, er, election on Nov 3, hulu.
    .
    You can come out in the open now as a die hard Limbaugh veinerschiener now, I think…

  • http://www.seablogger.com/?p=12991 Fresh Bilge » Caricature

    [...] From the right, James Lewis at American Thinker. From the center, Jay Cost at RealClear Politics. From the left, Michael Scherer at Time [...]

  • http://www.hulagate.org hulagate

    Honest to Allah, PBS has had every lib loon talking head on their “news” programs for the last 30 YEARS — but just now it IS time to attack somebody in the press for their lack of balance?

    We’ve met the new news censorship, and it IS called the Hoofington Post.

    Having been kicked off, twice.

    And Kos.

    And Move On.

    Folks, these aren’t isolated incidents.

    They’re an organized campaign to silence opinion.

    Chilling, indeed.

    Unusual for the left when in power?

    Not at all.

    SOP, actually.

    But why would the press report against itself?

    There’s no more reporting, only conjecture.

    The difference that Limbaugh made was he had no pretensions of fairness, balance, or any other such liberal poppycock when it came to the events of the day.

    If you want to be spoon fed the old lefty crapola, FROTHLINE comes on at 9.

  • newfloridian

    Hey hula, your side lost and is lost in a political wasteland, get used to it. It’s the end of the Republican Party, the final gasp, a writhing body of losers all desperately fighting among themsleves for the last political morsel. The players have all lined up in a circle, raised their political weapons, cocked and loaded, and pointed at each other; with threats of anniliation being issued from Steele to others and from Limbaugh’s goons to others. It’s a meltdown at every level. The rats are all trying to be the last one standing and willing to destroy each other down to the last man or woman. Watching the death spiral is so fun!!!!!

  • bobcn1

    MS looks at Limbaugh and sees Clark Gable. John Stewart looks at Limbaugh and sees Jabba the Hutt (link).

  • 53_3

    “Watching the death spiral is so fun!!!!!”
    .
    What you said, and then some, newfloridian!
    .
    I LOVE it!

  • http://www.hulagate.org hulagate

    “It’s the end of the Republican Party…”

    Until 2010, when you’re going to get your asses kicked in the mid-terms (and if you doubt it you’d better review the last few fill-in elections, Otis).

  • xtsam

    I feel heavy just looking at him.

  • http://www.hulagate.org hulagate

    Don’t expect the chilling noise from Rahm-a-dong to end any Time soon.

    He’s shrill enough, he’s small enough, and dog gone it, union slacker like him.

  • 53_3

    “The difference that Limbaugh made was he had no pretensions of fairness, balance, or any other such liberal poppycock when it came to the events of the day.”
    .
    Glad to know that moral and civil behavior are “poppycock” and that it’s only us who have it, hulu.
    .
    I havn’t had so much fun since the day I walked by a drying swamp and saw all those tadpoles thrashing in a muddy puddle with their last dying gasp in the mud!

  • http://www.hulagate.org hulagate

    The brazen media power that the Obamites in the White House have summoned to go after Limbaugh should surprise no thinking person.

    It should scare them.

    It is not otherwise any big surprise, given the DNC’s track record and Emanuel’s ability to pull a Nixon trick out of his hat at a moment’s notice.

    Had anyone in 43′s press force pulled such a series of stunts in Bush’s first 2 months in office?

    He’d have been a 1-termer.

    Just like Junior Obama’s about to be.

    What IS is.

  • 53_3

    Otis wanted me to let you know that he’s seen ‘em.
    .
    He said it’s been a straight 70/30 all the way down the line, and that you guys ain’t the ones with the 70. And he also wanted to know if by mid-terms, did you mean the college test he aced, or are you dreaming the same dream you dreampt up before that rock from space hit.
    .
    You know, the one I kept warning you to watch out for?
    .
    Oh, and PS. He says that if your freinds and relatives are still in the Armed forces, they still have to salute a Black man…

  • http://www.hulagate.org hulagate

    “I havn’t had so much fun since the day I walked by a drying swamp and saw all those tadpoles thrashing in a muddy puddle with their last dying gasp in the mud!”

    And then your Mama blamed FEMA when you were late for lunch.

  • http://www.hulagate.org hulagate

    “If the Obama White House spent as much energy on vetting their candidates as they do trashing some dude in the media, maybe their ranks wouldn’t be so awfully chalk full of tax cheats?”

    Naw.

    They’d hire the tax cheats, either way.

  • http://www.hulagate.org hulagate

    “Mama, why did Pwezident Obongo spend all our money going after some media dude that told the truth about Pwezident Obongo?”

    “I don’t know dearie. Now help me pack up these last few things before the U-Haul foreclosure becomes final and we have to move back in with your third daddy in the last five years.”

  • notfooledbydistractions

    I think michael scherer is rushs hillbilly heroin buddy. You’d have to be stoned to believe this nonsense.

  • 53_3

    In real news, another couple of Hulagate’s peers have crawled out from behind their lawyer:
    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/03/04/judiciary-committee-says-rove-and-miers-will-take-questions/
    .
    A federal court has ruled that their “executive privelage” was worth just about as much as Hulagates’ rants…

  • sacredh

    Anybody want to bet that when Rush finally has a heart attack the right screams conspiracy instead of clogged arteries? I’ll fly my zipper at half mast in honor of the old CS’er.

  • gwbc

    You and your ilk are so hypocritical , if Obama didn’t push back against the Fat Man , you would criticize him for being weak. If he does , you criticize him
    You aren’t journalists , you are gossips and not very good ones at that.
    Why don’t you write about the GOP senators including the Big Phoney John McCain and the Governors such as Jindal who don’t want to give unemployed people unemployment benefits and health care . Of course the Fat Man would agree with that.
    And probably you do , too.

  • hickoryduck

    What mental deficiency does this hulagate person have? I’ve refrained from saying about about him/her/it for a long time now, but really? Is that English? What’s it’s native language? Is it even human?

  • http://acmeanvil.wordpress.com/ acmeanvil

    You know, Michael, all the Republicans would have to do is stop kissing Rush’s ring in order to completely disprove the charge. The fact that they won’t, the fact that they can’t, is what makes the charge ring true, that gives it legs. Independents absolutely hate Rush Limbaugh and see him as the embodiment of everything that is wrong with conservatism. Until the Republicans throw Rush under the bus, and leave him there, they will have no credibility and no electoral viability. And they won’t deserve any.

  • Paul-no not that one

    hickoryduck-Think of Vonda as Swampland’s very own Jackson Pollock. Crazed brilliance. Be kind she has had a VERY bad last few years.

  • jim8911

    greenlyfe and hickoryduck:

    Obama’s rating is at an all-time high? You need to update your reading and check out the polls. His approval rating is declining while the disapproval is increasing.

    Apologizing when one is wrong is the proper thing to do. Why does it have to do with kissing up? What did you think of the time Obama takes the blame for Dashchle’s “honest mistakes” as well as other appointees’ “simple oversights”?

    Can’t wait to see the Rush vs Obama debate? (if he dares)

    By the way, the ratings show that more people are watching FOX News now then last december. Same goes for Rush and Hannity listeners.

    Still waiting to see Gibbs or Obama make good on the beer with Hannity in the White House.

  • c0nfuzzled

    wow all the hate on this blog for an opinion…and an opinion that was spot on! politics is all about spin….its all lies and deception. ..our own beloved president keeps doing things he campaigned against and then his protectors throw this kind of junk in our faces to keep us distracted from the issues. THE ISSUES ARE OUR ECONOMY…we keep spending more and more money that we just dont have…. I just have one question for all of you. WHO DO YOU THINK IS GOING TO PAY FOR THE STIMULUS????? US all of us..not some imaginary rich people..rich people and all our crooked politicians who dont pay taxes now will still not pay taxes and its the middle class that will take up the slack again..regular working folks…that stimulus will not create millions of jobs and even if it did it would take more than a million jobs to pay that kind of money back….some of you better start reading more than just the political propaganda that is getting crammed down our throats… WE THE PEOPLE.. and it never ceases to amaze me that everyone seems to forget that theres not a politician out there that can relate to any of us regular poor folk.. they all have money and all they are interested in is getting more!

  • countrygal38

    You know, it would serve them right if Rush threw his hat in the ring. If that comedic hack Franken can do it, why NOT Rush? That would rally the GOP and then we’d have some common sense in the White House for a change! He really should do it- for his party and his listners.

  • c0nfuzzled

    hulagate Says:
    Wednesday, March 4, 2009 at 8:10 pm
    “If the Obama White House spent as much energy on vetting their candidates as they do trashing some dude in the media, maybe their ranks wouldn’t be so awfully chalk full of tax cheats?”


    NO CH!T!!!

  • Paul-no not that one

    “Obama’s rating is at an all-time high? You need to update your reading and check out the polls.”
    .
    Jiim’s right. This poll is from way back on March 3rd.
    .
    Poll: Obama’s rating at all-time high
    Despite the country’s struggling economy and vocal opposition to some of his policies, President Obama’s favorability rating is at an all-time high. Two-thirds feel hopeful about his leadership and six in 10 approve of the job he’s doing in the White House.

    “What is amazing here is how much political capital Obama has spent in the first six weeks,” said Democratic pollster Peter D. Hart, who conducted this survey with Republican pollster Bill McInturff. “And against that, he stands at the end of this six weeks with as much or more capital in the bank.”
    .
    Of course that’s from those Commies at the Wall Street Journal.
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29493021/

  • 53_3

    “…we keep spending more and more money that we just dont have”
    .
    Now, might it be because we are the big spenders in these here parts? Might it be the Republican administration before us?
    http://blogs.moneycentral.msn.com/topstocks/archive/2008/11/24/the-real-bailout-cost-7-4-trillion.aspx
    .
    And, fuzzled, here is a riddle:
    What is the alternative? Do nothing?
    .
    Yeah, riiight…

  • 53_3

    “You know, it would serve them right if Rush threw his hat in the ring.”
    .
    HELL yes! Go fer it! Dittoheads, unite!

  • sacredh

    I have a permanent prescription for Soma’s. I’ll send him a whole bottle if he runs. He can either sell them to raise cash for his campaign or pop em’ just to kick in the oxys.

  • bobcn1

    countrygal38 wrote: If that comedic hack Franken can do it, why NOT Rush? That would rally the GOP and then we’d have some common sense in the White House for a change!
    .
    Yup. Then we can have the ‘common sense’ Limbaugh health care policy. All the OxyContin his drug-addled brain wants and a government provided maid to go score it for him.

  • newfloridian

    Really hula, 2010 asses kicked. When you lose big again, what is going to be your answer. Oh yeah 2012, then 2014, 2016, 2018, 2020 and on and on and on. hula it is over for the Republican Party, it really is

  • 53_3

    You know, I get it now:
    .
    Republicans talk about “common sense” all the time. They seem entranced by it, but now I know why:
    .
    They don’t have any. Don’t they realize that common sense means looking and actually paying attention to those facts thingies, like water runs down hill and all. And what about the stunningly obvious, like night is dark and the day is light?
    .
    I’m not sure, but I think that they really, deep inside, at the bottoms of their cockels, really are wistful of the days they had some…

  • c0nfuzzled

    it really is a shame to think that people are so willing to give up on our country and just let socialism prevail…what is wrong with you people?
    and 53_3 there have been many suggestions..but this congress isnt interested in litening to them

  • c0nfuzzled

    it really is a shame to think that people are so willing to give up on our country and just let socialism prevail…what is wrong with you people?
    and 53_3 there have been many suggestions..but this congress isnt interested in listening to them

  • 53_3

    countrygal38, fuzzled:
    .
    In case you hadn’t noticed, that was a left handed comment, like “Rush is the leader of the Republican Party” and “Rush is the energy, intellectual leader, and motivator (from memory) of the Republican Party”.
    .
    You know, like dogwhistle racism, only without the racism…

  • Paul-no not that one

    “if that comedic hack Franken can do it”
    .
    That’s SENATOR comedic hack Franken, thankyouverymuch.

  • xxtra

    Is it ethical/legal for White House Staff to target journalist/talkshowhosts in the manner that “White House Staffers” are targetting Limbaugh? If Carville/Begala criticized Obama..what are the legal and ethical issues of President Obama telling people not to listen to Carville/Begala and have White House Staffers target the “talking heads” for “attack ads?” What if..then..the Chief of Staff and White House Aids engaged in a conspiracy to use Carville/Begala as whipping boys in a smear campaign? Carville/Begala intentionally misrepresented what Limbaugh said to create an intimidating and threatening situation for Limbaugh..intentionally targetted him for attack..and then stating Limbaugh was an easy target because he opposes Obama and his remarks could purposely be taken and successfully used out of context.
    The attack ads were then used to prove guilt by association against political opponents.
    When the names are changed, but the facts remain.. the issue that Gibbs snickers about is potentially very serious…The Politico had it correct..This should concern every Journalist and Media Source in the Nation..

  • newfloridian

    Been working the hula gong so much forgot to tell Michael… it over for the Republican Party, it really is Michael. Got a message from your leader Rush. He wants you both to hold your breath for twenty minutes to prove you are really Republicans.
    Services for Michael and hulagate wil be this Monday after a senseless untimely death caused by asphyxiation. Police say they can’t figure why they thought they could hold their breath for twenty minutes. After a short investigation it was determined they were Republicans and the case was closed with a finding of death by natural causes.

  • newfloridian

    Been working the hula gong so much forgot to tell Michael… it over for the Republican Party, it really is Michael. Got a message from your leader Rush. He wants you both to hold your breath for twenty minutes to prove you are really Republicans.
    Services for Michael and hulagate will be this Monday after a senseless untimely death caused by asphyxiation. Police say they can’t figure why they thought they could hold their breath for twenty minutes. After a short investigation it was determined they were Republicans and the case was closed with a finding of death by natural causes.

  • 53_3

    “it really is a shame to think that people are so willing to give up on our country and just let socialism prevail…what is wrong with you people?”
    .
    Well, for one thing, we’re not as paranoid as you are. We actually enjoy life and don’t worry about the little sticks and stones that life fires under your chin from time to time. I would either up that dose of risperdal or run like hell.
    .
    As far as suggestions, I know. Rush made it very clear.
    .
    You guys got no direction and no solutions.

  • c0nfuzzled

    xxtra…it sure scares the hell out of me..

  • countrygal38

    Dittoheads unite indeed. 20 million strong at the start. How many polititians can boast those numbers before they even get started? 20 million listeners- which doesn’t include people who buy his books or just believe in him, though they don’t tune in.
    Why doesn’t Rush run? He’s already rich, so I bet he could survive a politician’s salary. (Yeah, I know it would be a cut in pay for him.)

  • bobcn1

    I’m really warming up to this President Limbaugh idea!
    .
    ‘Common sense’ diplomacy would be conducted by President Limbaugh himself. The first foreign junket would be Rush heading back down to Costa Rica on Air Force One for another sex tour. It would give a whole new meaning to the term ‘foreign relations’. The Viagra he takes along would be provided to him by his government health plan, of course — no more embarrassing customs stops at the border for President Limbaugh.
    .
    Rush’s ‘common sense’ defense of traditional marriage would no doubt be robust, also. He wouldn’t just be defending one marriage but all three of his!

  • 53_3

    I’m all for it, countrygal38!
    .
    Up, up and away! Damn the torpedoes! Full speed ahead!
    .
    We’ll sink that ship even if we have to chase it all the way to the Sahara desert!

  • Joe Bftsplk

    Well, this is a glorious day for WordPress, isn’t it?
    All these new trolls signed up to defend their poor, benighted spokesman.
    Welcome to the barrel, we’ve got room for lots more fish!

  • c0nfuzzled

    for someone claiming to not be bothered you sure type a lot.

  • 53_3

    bobcn1:
    .
    Instead of the stars in a blue field, they should have a yellow Walmart smiley face with dittos on it’s forehead.
    .
    That larn them commies!

  • http://www.straferight.com/forums/politics-world-news/174128-ye-olde-political-thread-663.html#post2656324 Ye Olde Political Thread – Page 663 – StrafeRight Forums

    [...] Originally Posted by michaelscherer-Time-CNN But here’s the rub: If you believed what Obama said during the campaign, then Carville is dead wrong. Republicans in Congress are not the only losers. The American people also lose. At a time of unprecedented threats to the United States, a time of financial collapse, bank failures and record layoffs, at a time when the credit crisis has not been solved, and the stock market is in free fall, at a time of stagnating wars, rising terrorism in Pakistan and growing nuclear potential in Iran, the White House has done the easy thing. It has asked the American people to focus their attention not on solving the problems, but on a big-mouthed entertainer in Florida. This may be smart politics. But it is also the same petty strategy that John McCain employed during the presidential campaign, the one that our new president promised to rise above. Team Obama’s Petty Limbaugh Strategy :: Swampland – TIME.com [...]

  • xxtra

    Hula This:
    In collusion with White House Chief of Staff and White House Aides,
    Carville/Begala intentionally misrepresented what Limbaugh said to create an intimidating and threatening situation for Limbaugh.. targeted Limbaugh, a talk show radio journalist, for attack..and then stated Limbaugh was an easy target because he opposes Obama and his remarks could purposely be taken and successfully used out of context.
    The attack ads were then used to prove guilt by association against political opponents.

  • 53_3

    “…for someone claiming to not be bothered you sure type a lot.”
    .
    I havn’t had this much fun since November 4th. I mean, if you really believe in this guy, then by all means, follow him!
    .
    “…which doesn’t include people who buy his books or just believe in him, though they don’t tune in.”
    .
    And just who is the ‘anointed one’?
    .
    I’d pick a tweensy bit smarter diety, if I wuz you…

  • sacredh

    President Limbaugh. Vice President Savage. Secretary of State Ann Coulter. Think about that for a second. A minute would be much too long.

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    Since MS has piped in to defend himself by pointing out innstances of Democrats pointing and laughing at Rush, I’ll go ahead and reassert that part of the important business of governing this country effectively will be to clear all the idiots out of the road ahead.
    .
    MS may think its petty but the fact is that highlighting the difference in agendas between the business interests and the Hate-R-Us Rush listeners is exactly what this country needs to move forward.

  • bobcn1

    Instead of the stars in a blue field, they should have a yellow Walmart smiley face with dittos on it’s forehead.
    .
    Brilliant! President Rush will love it! It would surely would drive out all of these damn ‘Socialists’ that have recently popped up. Just like putting ‘in God we trust’ on the money drove out all of the Godless commies in the fifties.

  • 53_3

    Actually, xxtra, here is what they said about it:
    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/03/04/carville-blames-limbaugh-for-starting-political-feud/
    .
    Damn! If they compliment him any more, then they would have to join the long line of GOP supplicants just waiting to kiss his lilly-white arse…
    .
    HAHAHAHAHA! I love it. Run for the hills! Socialists! Commies! Traitors! Left-handed surrender monkeys!

  • c0nfuzzled

    I dont consider myself a Rush fan…I dont listen to talk radio cuz unlike all the commies I work all the time but I think I just might start and I sure know a con job when I see one and the whitehouse is conning the good people of the USA….

  • 53_3

    “President Limbaugh. Vice President Savage. Secretary of State Ann Coulter.”
    .
    They’d both be asleep on the couch while that damned red phone rings…

  • Joe Bftsplk

    Countrygal-
    I’ll repeat myself from way upthread:
    .
    RUSH LIMBAUGH IS A COWARD
    .
    By comparison, “entertainer” Al Franken had the guts to put his money where his mouth is and run for office to try to do something.
    Rush can’t handle responsiblity. He just wants to take potshots.

  • 53_3

    “I dont consider myself a Rush fan…I dont listen to talk radio cuz unlike all the commies…”
    .
    Hell, you notice that that is what they all say?
    .
    Next, he’ll be claiming he’s not a Republican!

  • bobcn1

    Secretary of State Ann Coulter answers the red phone:
    .
    ‘Can I talk? Are you going to let me talk? Can I talk…’

  • sacredh

    It’s 3 A.M. and guess who’s too trashed to answer the phone? Hell, he’d rock himself back to sleep just trying to get out of bed.

  • 53_3

    In fact, I think I have a perfectly good psyciatric name for the denial of dittoheadedness:
    .
    I’ll call it the ‘Arkele Syndrome’!
    .
    After all, wasn’ me!

  • c0nfuzzled

    SHE is a conservative..She doesnt need to CLAIM anything because SHE knows who and what SHE is…..thank you very much :)

  • 53_3

    He’d be hunched over the toilet, harfing is guts out while Savage and Ann fight over who gets to answer it.

  • xxtra

    I have never listened to Limbaugh..but I have seen this in the news. It doesn’t matter what Carville says..If there are phone calls or emails..this is the story and other people starting to say it this way:
    In collusion with White House Chief of Staff and White House Aides,
    Carville/Begala intentionally misrepresented what Limbaugh said, creating an intimidating and threatening situation for Limbaugh..while targeting Limbaugh, a talk show radio journalist, for a smear campaign.. then stated Limbaugh was an easy target because he opposes Obama and his remarks could purposely be taken and successfully used out of context.
    Attack ads were then prepared and aired to imply “guilt by association” of political opponents.
    (Freedom of Speech and Freedom of the Press are very serious subjects and any journalist/media outlet could be inserted for “Limbaugh” ..anyone who speaks out against Obama.) Who is next? The Media will not take conspiracy against political opposition lightly..

  • gtalias

    Obama isn’t personally saying these things, Rahm Emanuel is. And since Rahm represents the the views of the White House, Michael, you have a valid point.

    Rahm Emanuel, who is notoriously partisan, should stop taunting the GOP and get back to working for the American people.

    FYI, I’m a 20′s something democrat.

  • 53_3

    Karl Rove:
    “Ladies and Gentlen, the president is dead.”
    .
    “I regret to inform you he was found with several maple bars by his side and one still in his mouth.”
    .
    “Let’s have a moment of silence, please.”
    .
    [respectful silence]
    .
    [respectful silence]
    .
    PPPPPHHHHHHFFFFFFTTTTTTT!

  • c0nfuzzled

    watch it gtalias…53_3 is going to say youre really a republican and anyone who disagrees with his point of view is a republican and just saying that..cuz isnt that what they all say? LOL gawd I wish I had known about you guys a long time ago…this sure is fun!

  • c0nfuzzled

    watch it gtalias…53_3 is going to say youre really a republican and anyone who disagrees with his point of view is a republican and youre just saying that.youre a democrat.cuz isnt that what they all say? LOL gawd I wish I had known about you guys a long time ago…this sure is fun! but i really need to proof before sending!

  • Paul-no not that one

    “President Limbaugh. Vice President Savage. Secretary of State Ann Coulter.”
    .
    No dice the SoS is now reserved for females.

  • terrapinion

    You have attracted a lot of comments with this post and you have almost certainly stopped reading them but I wanted to get this down in writing, in public, as part of the formal record:
    .
    You are a very stupid, young man. You could not possibly believe the ridiculous things that you have written here. What you have just done is blame the battered woman for raising her hand to block the punches of the man who is beating her.
    .
    Please understand how your stupidity is damaging this nation.

  • 53_3

    “I have never listened to Limbaugh..but I have seen this in the news.”
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    Oh, I really believe you! Really! I do! Ahyuh! Ahyuh! Ahyuh!
    .
    By the way, how is “He is the head of the Republican Party” threatening? I mean, I told my wife she’s good at our finances, and she didn’t get upset. I’m really trying, after having seen everything that was said, any insult whatsoever.
    .
    As for freedom of speech, what happened during the Bush years? And what’s interesting, you overlook all the explecit and implicit threats Obama has had to deal with already. I know what free speech is to, but one thing is sure here:
    .
    Only Limbaugh and the rest of you rabid right wingers try to see how far that right can be stretched.
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    For every right, there is a responsibility!

  • juniusredivivus

    It must take the lone token Republican troll a long time to think of these amazingly unoriginal little rants, write them down, log out, log in with new fake ID and pretend to be someone else. Some people are so pathetically stupid: McCain lost, got whipped, had his hairy little ass kicked by the American people. No more free jockstraps for GOP trolls. Didn’t you or Scherer get the message?

  • seemyart

    This is the funniest article I’ve read in ages. This is a dream come true for the Democrat Party. And we didn’t have to do anything or spend any money. Too good to be true! Message to Rush: Please, keep talking! Priceless!

  • 53_3

    During the years they were invincible, politically, they did much worse than utter a few left-handed complements and tongue-in-cheek remarks.
    .
    Now that the shoe is on the other foot, they don’t seem to be able to take their own medicine, do they?

  • Paul-no not that one

    53 they always wanted to be victims, now they can be.

  • sisterdo

    Obama’s hypocrisy is indeed making him look petty, small and like a liar. Why are they reducing themselves to this sophomoric strategy anyway? Clearly Rahm and Obama have presented an early misstep that reminds everyone of the Bush demonize-the-opposition White House. The other misstep, I’d say sadly, is the enormous and unprecedented level of undebated spending.

  • c0nfuzzled

    dont you just hate a hypocrite

  • Cliff

    53_3: you are hardcore. For your own sake, leave the one-shotters here alone and get a beer or something.

  • gysgt213

    Michael. In case you weren’t around during the election this is the same reporter who posted every single petty ad that John McCain’s camp produced. Often without comment. When he did comment on the ad he was posting he found every single one very effective.

  • http://nicewhitelady.blogspot.com/ joyomama

    did someone say beer? I’m in!

  • gysgt213

    Folks. Michael was also the brillant one who posted here during the election that it was a good idea for McCain to give a speech on the same night as Hillary and Obama. When I posted that this was not a good idea, pointed out that McCain was terrible at speeches and could not read a telepromter, Hillary and Obama were both strong at speeches and why he would suggest such a thing Michael’s response was simply McCain would have a national audience. If you don’t remember or recall the McCain speech. Think Green.

  • Joe Bftsplk

    10:40 Eastern Time, and I’m signing off.
    c0nfuzzled, sisterdo, countrygal, gtalias, xxtra —
    It’s been fun, glad you could join us for the sleepover, but now it’s time to brush your teeth and go to bed.
    Be sure to say your prayers!
    .
    And tomorrow — if you want to hold your own with Dirks, PNNTO, sgw, 53_3, wvng, Cliff, Dee, Cincy, kathy, rose, sacredh, jayack, etc. (my apologies to those I’m leaving out) — be sure and bring lots of verifiable facts, links, and references. Otherwise pourmecoffee will make fun of you so bad you’ll never be able to show your face at Redstate again.

  • Joe Bftsplk

    Oops! Sorry gunny, ivb, joyo, 53_3, etc.
    I like you too.

  • gysgt213

    Joe Steele bftsplk. WTF? I think you forgot Rush too?

  • c0nfuzzled

    o my gosh im so scared I’m shaking in my panties LOL..are you trying to say you don’t like me? I’m truly crushed…sadly…I have to work tomorrow…..someone has to! LOL and since my job takes me to far away destinations that also means I have to travel home…Maybe Friday if you’re lucky I will peek in LOL…try not to miss me too much. I know we just met but ….

  • http://nicewhitelady.blogspot.com/ joyomama

    I think I was wrong about the blazing sack of dogsh#t theory. Michael just wanted us to meet all these great friends of his, so he posted his dogwhistle Evite. What a great party!

  • http://weblogs3.nrc.nl/obama/2009/03/05/een-kleingeestige-strategie/ Obama Obama » Een kleingeestige strategie

    [...] Er komt nu ook kritiek op de wijze waarop de regering-Obama de controverse met Rush Limbaugh uitspeelt: ,,This may be smart politics. But it is also the same petty strategy that John McCain employed [...]

  • stuartzechman

    Jay Ackroyd:
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    You might call it a weakness on the part of the Democrats, or it may be rank corruption (we’re going to find out soon on that), but they did not do all they could to make the Iraq war a failure. They did not obstruct Bush in pursuing his policies. They tried to get the best deals they could in the country’s interests. What the Republicans are doing, so far, is something very different.
    .
    The Republicans are doing something very different. They’re actively attempting to prevent the enactment of non-rightist policies.
    .
    The Democrats, on the other hand, voted for the Iraq war. They voted for the Patriot Act. They voted for the immunization of the telcos.
    .
    The Democrats did nothing to stop the Iraq war from being prosecuted. The Democrats could have stopped the war –they did not. They waited for Obama to take office, and while they did so, they extended the war by funding it. Bush threatened to veto a bill sent to him that contained a timetable, and Congressional Democrats sent him a bill that extended the war indefinitely.
    .
    Not only did the Democrats not do all they could to make the Iraq war a failure, they actively enabled it to continue as George Bush saw fit. Many of them did so precisely because of the fear of being tarred with the “hoping for failure” brush. They were called “Defeatocrats”, if I’m not mistaken.
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    The Republicans did not hesitate for once second to bully the craven, venal Democrats into backing off of opposition to the President’s policies –policies that they were specifically elected into majorities to prevent continuation of– by using the lock the right-wing noise machine had on the attention of the mainstream political media to blanket our discourse with their depictions of party of “retreat and defeat” and “slow bleed” and “the blame game”.
    .
    So, as correct as you may be that the Republicans today are doing something very different from what the Democrats did then, the mainstream media –helped a bit by intelligent, opportunistic Democrats– is doing now to the weakened Republicans exactly the same thing they did to the weakened Democrats of four years ago.
    .
    To admit this is honest.
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    To admit that, because Rush believes that a legitimately elected government’s attempts to confront an economic crisis with centrist economic policies is tantamount to Russia in October of 1917, Rush Limbaugh is praying for Obama’s “Russian Revolution” of 2009 to fail, and not wishing for Obama to bring about America’s destruction is also honest.
    .
    If you’re f*cking crazy, and everyone you know is batsh*t insane because all you watch is these f*ckers on CNBC and Fox News Channel and Fox Business Channel, and all you listen to is Michael Savage and John Gibson, and all you read is the NY Post and the WS Journal and The Weekly Standard, and all the “information” available to you is telling you that spending is NOT stimulus, but a means for a depraved, failed ideology’s political proponents to completely take over the government, wrest the remaining wealth of the country from its citizens, and impose neo-Stalinist, fairness-doctrine rule while the nation’s enemies wait patiently and arm, then you bet your f*cking ass you’re hoping that the revolution is held at bay by the last remaining patriots. You’re probably hoping for the military to step in, actually. Hell yes you want the Communists to fail –preferably before the re-education camps and the five-year “Great Leap Forward” plans go into effect.
    .
    What’s wrong with Rush Limbaugh is that his base is not reality-based, and that’s why he wants Obama’s stimulus plan to fail.
    .
    What’s wrong with our press corps is that they have long since abdicated their constitutionally enumerated duty to prevent this sort of thing from ever happening. Our media elites are not reality-based either, unfortunately. Never before, at least in their lifetimes, have they ever had to bear any consequences for failure as a class.

  • http://nicewhitelady.blogspot.com/ joyomama

    Since when does reality-based journalism sell ads? Wow, that was a buzz-kill, Zechman. And thank you for it. You and Jon Stewart, who just pwned CNBC.

  • http://smoothlikeremy.blogspot.com/ sgwhiteinfla

    Damn did I miss all the fun? Any trolls left for me?

  • http://smoothlikeremy.blogspot.com/ sgwhiteinfla

    joyomama
    .
    I think you won’t be hearing any rants on CNBC for awhile. They didn’t think that sh*t through. Now that all of their dumb ass predictions are coming to light they are going to run and hide before that populist rage they were trying to stir up comes a lookin for them. Jim Cramer explicitly said do not sell Bear Stearns right before they plummeted. I have a feeling a lot of people are pretty pissed at him right now.

  • rose83

    The great thing about threads this long is that every observation you’ve had has already been expressed eloquently by someone else. This comment from jcapan is a perfect example:
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    Just imagine, for a moment, how conservatives would react if four months after the worst defeat liberalism had suffered in a generation, an Olbermann (or a Moyers or a Michael Moore or a Bill Maher or whomever) showed up to deliver the keynote address at a liberal equivalent of CPAC, and during the course of his speech he blasted every Democrat who disagrees with him as a miserable sell-out, suggested that conservatives are fascists and conservatism a psychosis, lectured the crowd on the irrelevance of policy ideas to liberalism’s political prospects, and insisted that the only blueprint liberals need to win elections is the one that Lyndon Johnson used to rout Barry Goldwater.

    And then further imagine that both before and after this speech, a series of left-of-center politicians ventured criticisms of Olbermann, only to beat a hasty and apologetic retreat as soon as he turned his fire on them. Conservatives would be chortling – and rightly so! Not because liberalism needs to purge or marginalize its Keith Olbermanns, or because impassioned liberal entertainers don’t have a place in left-of-center discourse – but because when your political persuasion faces a leadership vacuum, you don’t want to have it filled by someone who appeals to an impassioned but narrow range of voters, and whose central incentive is to maximize his own ratings.

  • cyberfausto

    4 years from now as inflation & unemployment reaches double digits, the stock market is at the lowest levels in decades, and countries around the world take advantage of a defanged US military, none of this will be remembered. People will be comparing Obama to Carter instead of Lincoln FDR or Reagan.

    So keep fanning the flames of this non-issue with Rush, but you can’t distract the American people with this crap forever. Soon Obama will have to answer for the socialism he is dragging our country into.

  • rose83

    Correction: jcapan actually attributed that to Ross Douthat (one of the few prominent Republican thinkers who is acquainted with reality).
    .
    The lack of a link led me astray.
    .
    BTW, I haven’t read through every comment but did anyone ever explain the Clark Gable reference? I’m usually the one who attempts to explain MS but I was actually completely lost on that one.
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    Groucho Marx might have made more sense…

  • bobcn1

    4 years from now as inflation & unemployment reaches double digits, the stock market is at the lowest levels in decades…
    .
    Why wait 4 years? That’s the situation GOPer policies have given us now. Go out and buy a paper and read it. You’ll discover that we’re already there.
    .
    The stock market has been tanking for 4 months and is now in the toilet — taking our 401Ks with it (as opposed to the union negotiated guaranteed pensions we could have had). Thank God we didn’t get stuck with the privatized Social Security scam the GOPers also tried to inflict on us.
    .
    Small businesses can’t get the loans they need to make paroles and keep their doors open. Unemployment in my state is over 10% for the first time since the end of Bush I. In the last two months over 1.4 million people have lost their jobs.
    .
    Obama inherited all of this (and two wars). He’s got a lot of work to do. If harassing republicans with Limbaugh will weaken GOPer obstructionism, we’ll all be better off for it.

  • tcinla

    Nice to see another talentless, otherwise-unemployable villager still raking in the big bucks in an otherwise-terrible economy.

    Can you spell your name on consecutive attempts, Mikeey-boy?

  • juandeiparine

    Don’t be such a hypocrite, Michael Scherer! You guys in media loved the exchange! Limbaugh got his just desserts for being such a windbag! And the Republican Party deserved to be trashed for being the party of dumb jackasses.

  • Art Pepper

    This is a hilarious thread! One of the most entertaining in weeks. Hats off to Scherer.
    .
    My last thought on this:
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    [Obama] has asked the American people to focus their attention not on solving the problems, but on a big-mouthed entertainer in Florida
    .
    I seem to remember when Obama gave a press conference and spoke at length and in detail about the problems facing the country, the press panned him for being “boring.”
    .
    You guys don’t have the attention span to care about the problems facing the country. Watching you pretend now that you do care is frankly embarrassing.

  • http://cadillactight.wordpress.com/2009/03/05/the-american-triumverate/ The American Triumverate « Cadillac Tight

    [...] Time Magazine can’t ignore it any longer: If you believed what Obama said during the campaign, then [...]

  • pjmanshardtlaw

    Leave it for the Democrats to confuse the cheerleader for the quarterback.

  • pjmanshardtlaw

    Leave it to the Democrats to confuse the cheerleader for the quarterback.

  • joebidensteeth

    Came for the villification of Michael Scherer. Not leaving disappointed.

  • http://rhetorican.com/2009/03/05/time-the-petty-limbaugh-strategy/ Time: The Petty Limbaugh Strategy « The Rhetorican

    [...] Time: The Petty Limbaugh Strategy March 5, 2009 Posted by Jehuda in Uncategorized. Tags: News, Politics trackback Time’s Michael Scherer agrees with me. [...]

  • http://whateverisright.com/2009/03/greatest-hits-mar-5-2009/ Greatest Hits: Mar. 5, 2009 – Whatever Is Right

    [...] Obama admin’s attacks on Limbaugh “petty” – Michael Scherer (Time) [...]

  • splediferiousone

    IT IS NOT ONLY MY RIGHT TO QUESTION MY PRESIDENT BUT MY DUTY AS AN AMERICAN. WHETHER RUSH IS RIGHT OR NOT IS NOT THE POINT. I TOO HOPE HIS SOCIALISTIC POLICIES FAIL. MUCH BLOOD HAS BEEN SPILLED ON BATTLEFIELDS SO WE CAN BE THE FREE COUNTRY THAT WE ARE. WE MUST REMEMBER THE MORE CONTROL WE GIVE GOVERNMENT THE MORE RIGHTS WE GIVE UP. WHATS THAT STIMULIS WORTH TO YOU? JOB SAVING. THE ONLY PLACE I DONT HEAR ABOUT LAYOFFS IS THE GOVERNMENT. FUNNY HOW THAT IS. THEY WANT TO CUT CEO PAY BUT NOT THIER OWN.

  • http://chargingelephants.com/archives/cracks-showing-michael-scherer-of-time-calls-team-obama-petty/ Charging Elephants .com » Cracks Showing: Michael Scherer of Time Calls Team Obama Petty

    [...] they were just words! …But here’s the rub: If you believed what Obama said during the campaign, then Carville is dead wrong. Republicans in [...]

  • Donut

    Hey Scherer, you’ve probably long since stopped reading comments on this post (I’m assuming you’re not a masochist), but just in case you haven’t, I’d like to offer a single word summary of your attempt at providing insight on this Limbaugh thing:
    .
    FAIL.
    .
    That’s all. Oh, and you were kind of almost getting better for awhile there, but this post is ample evidence that you still really suck at the blogging part of you job.

  • http://www.commentarymagazine.com/blogs/index.php/rubin/57271 Commentary » Blog Archive » Childish Things

    [...] ploy, a “petty strategy” to distract voters from real issues. That’s what Time is calling the Rush Limbaugh gambit cooked up by the Obama administration: According to [Jonathan] [...]

  • daveb56

    Sorry Michael, but you’re a bit off track here. All this Rush sideshow demonstrates is something Bush the Lesser and his cluster of clowns could never do over 8 long years – walk and chew gum at the same time. It is not a distraction to Obama. Why shouldn’t Democrats have a little fun drawing out the Republicans’ intestines slowly, an inch at a time? Goodness knows they deserve it – exposing hypocrisy is never a sin.

  • sacredh

    This thread was almost too much fun to give up on last night. If my wife hadn’t came down last night and told me that my son and a couple of his college friends were upstairs wanting me to pick out a movie to watch, I’d have stayed much later. We watched “Lust in the Dust” starring Divine. I kept thinking how much Divine reminded me of a more masculine Limbaugh.

  • ahithophel

    It’s pretty entertaining to see all of these ostensibly liberal, rational, open-minded readers go completely apoplectic when a member of the legacy media dares to criticize Barack Obama and his team.
    .
    Aren’t you the guardians of nuance? Limbaugh said he wanted Obama to fail because he believes that, if Obama transforms the nation’s economic structure in the way he seeks, our nation and our economy will be less successful and less free. Understand? Wishing Obama’s failure is not the same as wishing America’s failure. In context, as any open-minded reading or hearing shows, Limbaugh wishes Obama’s failure because he wants the United States to remain flourishing and free. You cannot accuse Limbaugh of being simplistic and crude and then offer your own simplistic and crude reading of a more complicated point.
    .
    The truth is, Obama is not living up to the ideals he set out in his campaign. Now, please note, there is absolutely nothing unusual in that. In the campaign, ordinary politicians dispense with the complexities and advance simplistic but clear and attractive policies. Ordinary politicians promise more than they can deliver, and
    .
    Yet many of you cannot accept that Obama is an “ordinary politician” in that sense. He may be extraordinary in his intelligence and his eloquence. But he is not extraordinary in his policies, which are old-school liberal policies, and his is not extraordinary in his process, which is the same old political games he mocked when he was a candidate. You should consider why, to you, Obama cannot be an “ordinary politician.” What is he, then? A saint? A savior?

  • ahithophel

    It’s pretty entertaining to see all of these ostensibly liberal, rational, open-minded readers go completely apoplectic when a member of the legacy media dares to criticize Barack Obama and his team.
    .
    Aren’t you the guardians of nuance? Limbaugh said he wanted Obama to fail because he believes that, if Obama transforms the nation’s economic structure in the way he seeks, our nation and our economy will be less successful and less free. Understand? Wishing Obama’s failure is not the same as wishing America’s failure. In context, as any open-minded reading or hearing shows, Limbaugh wishes Obama’s failure because he wants the United States to remain flourishing and free. You cannot accuse Limbaugh of being simplistic and crude and then offer your own simplistic and crude reading of a more complicated point.
    .
    The truth is, Obama is not living up to the ideals he set out in his campaign. Now, please note, there is absolutely nothing unusual in that. In the campaign, ordinary politicians dispense with the complexities and advance simplistic but clear and attractive policies. Ordinary politicians promise more than they can deliver, both in terms of results and in terms of the ideals their administrations will fulfill.
    .
    Yet many of you cannot accept that Obama is an “ordinary politician” in that sense. He may be extraordinary in his intelligence and his eloquence. But he is not extraordinary in his policies, which are old-school liberal policies, and he is not extraordinary in his process, which is the same old political games he mocked when he was a candidate. You should consider why, to you, Obama cannot be an “ordinary politician.” What is he, then? A saint? A savior?

  • ahithophel

    Ack. I apologize for the double-post. The second post is the completed one. But while I’m here, I just read the Rush transcript, and it’s pretty clear that what he wants to fail is “the absorption of as much of the private sector by the US government as possible,” which he takes to be the aim of Obama’s agenda.

  • constantweader

    You and Von Drehle are kidding, right? It’s quite important for the American people to see the Republican party for what it has become. Rush Limbaugh is much more than its elephantine symbol — he has been come Ba’al, the fatted calf to whom all Republicans bow. Not until the party abandons its idolatry can it hope to have relevance. It’s crucial for the public to understand that none of the party “leaders” is there yet, which is to say, there are no party leaders — except Rush.

    The Constant Weader at http://www.RealityChex.com

  • http://usdemocrazy.wordpress.com/2009/03/05/whatzup-today-15/ What’zup today? « USDemocrazy.net Blog

    [...] Blocking punches from all sides!  The Obama team is taking on Rush. [...]

  • http://papundits.wordpress.com/ steevesna

    Here we are again, Liberal Politics at it’s most successful and disgusting. Attack a person, in this case Rush Limbaugh, rather than debate the substance of what he has said. Joe (not a real plumber) decried socialism. What does he know, he’s a sham. What we are seeing now is socialism. A full out assault on liberty in the name of economic recovery. I’ve written posts attacking Rush on issues of substance but if half the people who have posted here listened to him for 3 hours, they would have a hard time arguing that he is personally attacking the president, he disagrees with the president’s policy. It worked for lefties to assault personal character in the Bush era, he’s dumb, a nazi, a monkey. Yet for all that he was our president for eight years and he looks better by comparison every day of the new administration. At least he didn’t attack his political opponents personally from the bully pulpit. That smacks of strong arm thuggery, but I guess that’s the way the intellectual elites on the left think.

  • patrickuk

    Writing from this side of the pond, this looks like a total re-run of what happened to the UK Conservative party when it finally lost power in 1997 after 18 years in office. There was an total retreat to its geriatric right-wing base and it’s taken 12 years and 4 leaders: Hague, Duncan-Smith, Howard and Cameron to finally return to a position of electability.

    Of course we don’t have a Limbaugh equivelant and looking at photos of him – he’s definitely got a face for radio as we say over here!

  • http://kristenblog.wordpress.com/2009/03/05/the-politics-of-distraction/ The Politics of Distraction « Road to the RNC

    [...] Politics of Distraction Jump to Comments ….is happening [...]

  • http://www.commentarymagazine.com/blogs/index.php/wehner/57472 Commentary » Blog Archive » The Not So New Ugliness

    [...] to Time magazine’s Michael Scherer and David von Drehle for calling out Team Obama for their pettiness and recklessness in targeting [...]

  • kent41

    Question: How many of those posting on this subject have reached puberty?

  • thenonpolitical

    I’m not a politics follower, but it seems to me that our President and some of his staff are trying to copy some of the policies of European Socialism. The thing they fail to realize is that so many countries in Europe have fallen because of Socialism. Ever since our country has become a “welfare state,” it has been heading in the direction of socialism. The government has, and continues to enact laws that are unconstitutional. I mean that if the founders of our country were alive today, they would be outraged over the state that our country is in. I’m not pointing the finger at any one political leader, or party. It is a fact that people are so wrapped up in politics (they are so concerned with the way others will react or what they will think, or they are just trying to get into whatever office to “save the day”, or they are so involved with the oppositions p’s and q’s and not focussed on the real issues) that little actually gets done. The more laws and taxes that are put upon the people of our country, the less free we are. There are certain unailiable rights that we should have, namely life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. The pursuit of happiness is a very interesting statement(and I’m not getting that from the movie). It means that people should have the choice to pursue better things IF THEY ARE WILLING TO WORK FOR THEM!! There is a serious problem with so many people wanting something for nothing. There is no such thing as something for nothing. It always costs someone when someone else gets something for free. I BELIEVE IN FREEDOM AND FREE ENTERPRISE! Not in I pay for him. That doesn’t mean I don’t want to help people, I just don’t see the point of supporting people who won’t support themselves. That’s all I have to say for now.

  • http://www.nextgengop.com/2009/03/05/learning-from-the-limbaugh-steele-mess/ Learning from the Limbaugh & Steele mess | NextGenGOP.com | The Future of the Republican Party

    [...] The ruse of Rush as “boss man” is almost up. Even Time Magazine, usually a loyal Obama propaganda newsletter, is calling this petty. [...]

  • http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=18283 Balloon Juice » Blog Archive » The self-anointed president

    [...] I guess I should just be happy the article wasn’t title “Obama’s petty health care strategy“. [...]

  • http://www.savethegop.com/2009/03/06/lets-nip-this-in-the-bud/ Save the GOP » Blog Archive » Let’s nip this in the bud

    [...] movement conservative or partisan Republican who would argue that he is either. This is a lie entirely invented by the Obama administration for their own political [...]

  • http://de.lusion.org/2009/03/05/a-big-fat-load-of-hooey/ Kelly Joyner’s Final Days » Blog Archive » A big fat load of hooey

    [...] you look at Time magazine this morning, or the Washington Post editorial page, or the Politico, you’ll see the [...]

  • http://conservababeblog.wordpress.com/2009/03/11/rush-limbaugh-and-the-two-minute-hate/ Rush Limbaugh and the Two Minute Hate « Conservababe.com

    [...] vicious attacks on Limbaugh were launched from several Democratic sources. It has been claimed that Obama’s strategists are making an explicit effort to “turn the [image of the] [...]

  • http://www.commentarymagazine.com/blogs/index.php/greenwald/58192 Commentary » Blog Archive » Bipartisanship Watch

    [...] on Rush Limbaugh. After Limbaugh  said that he hoped Barack Obama “fails,”Carville was giddy with the sense of political opportunity: “It’s great for us, great for him, great for [...]

  • http://livethetrinity.net/2009/03/11/the-two-minute-hate-strategy-the-president-and-limbaugh/ The two minute hate strategy – the president and Limbaugh at Live the Trinity

    [...] the man out of the picture and it would make almost no difference. Michael Scherer at TIME writes: First off, let us settle on the facts. The Republican Party is lost and largely leaderless, much [...]

  • http://www.dougjumper.com/posts/1610 Rush Limbaugh and the Two Minute Hate | Doug Jumper

    [...] vicious attacks on Limbaugh were launched from several Democratic sources. It has been claimed that Obama’s strategists are making an explicit effort to “turn the [image of the] [...]

  • http://www.usdemocrazy.net/dev/2009/03/05/whatzup-today-15/ What’zup today? | usDemoCrazy

    [...] Blocking punches from all sides!  The Obama team is taking on Rush. [...]

  • http://www.newclarion.com/2009/10/what-will-follow/ What Will Follow? — The New Clarion

    [...] makes the ongoing assault on Rush disturbing is that the White House is a participant in it. As Time magazine and others have reported, a small group of Democratic operatives and media figures — Stanley [...]

  • http://blog.yuvablog.us/blog/2009/10/18/rush-rammed-by-the-editors/ Rush Rammed — By: The Editors | Yuvablog

    [...] makes the ongoing assault on Rush disturbing is that the White House is a participant in it. As Time magazine and others have reported, a small group of Democratic operatives and media figures — Stanley [...]

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