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Progressivism

At the heart of the progressive movement, one hundred years ago, was the notion of taxation on a sliding scale, according to income–the belief that the more wealthy you are, the more you should pay as a percentage of your income. The progressive income tax was launched, via constitutional amendment, by Woodrow Wilson in 1913. It remains one of the clearest fault lines between the left and the right. 

Starting with Ronald Reagan, who belatedly embraced the notion of “supply side” economics (aka “voodoo economics,” according to his vice president George H.W. Bush), there has been a conservative assault on the notion of progressive taxation. The intellectual underpinning of this movement, provided by Arthur Laffer, was the undoubtedly true statement that if you tax people too much, if they don’t have enough to spend, the economy falters–and also, more dubiously, that the higher the marginal tax rates, the less incentive people have to create wealth (although that is undoubtedly true at the extreme margin, as the Soviet experiment showed). But how much taxation is too much? Bill Clinton demonstrated in the 1990s that rates of near 40% for the very wealthy and 25% for capital gains was not too much. Barack Obama has now returned to that benchmark (lower for capital gains–20%), and surpassed it slightly–limiting the value of tax deductions for those with incomes of over $250,000. And, like Clinton, Obama proposes to vastly expand the support for workers at the bottom end of the income scale. 

David Leonhardt, the New York Times’ excellent economic analyst, has the details here:

Before becoming Mr. Obama’s top economic adviser, Lawrence H. Summers liked to tell a hypothetical story to distill the trend. The increase in inequality, Mr. Summers would say, meant that each family in the bottom 80 percent of the income distribution was effectively sending a $10,000 check, every year, to the top 1 percent of earners.

Mr. Obama’s budget reflects that sensibility. Budget experts were still sorting through the details on Thursday, but it appeared that various tax cuts and credits aimed at the middle class and the poor would increase the take-home pay of the median household by roughly $800.

The tax increases on the top 1 percent, meanwhile, will most likely cost them $100,000 a year.

Over the coming weeks you will hear this described as a form of radicalism. It is not. It is liberalism–and more: it is purest bright line available to divide liberals from conservatives in American politics. Let the screeching begin.

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  • cdrwayne

    I think the screeching began in January of 1981 and has not let up since then

  • Joe Bftsplk

    Sean Quinn has a great story over at Nate’s place. Apparently some find it inconcievable that Obama is gonna do what he said he would:
    http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/02/breaking-press-corps-incredulous-that.html

  • kristiia

    I love the SHOCK – Barack Obama is a Democrat! Some of us knew that. It is why we like him so much. Finally, a Democratic President who isn’t acting like the Republican arguments are correct.

  • kathy

    Nate Silver has a smart piece this morning headlined: BREAKING: Press Corps Incredulous That Obama Budget Reflects Campaign Promises citing that the television press corps seemed to be the ones howling to Gibbs about the increase of taxes on those making over $250,000, which of course most (all?) of them are.
    http://www.fivethirtyeight.com
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    Funny how it’s okay to redistribute income from the poor to the rich, but not the other way around. I’ve heard folks on the CNN morning show (Tina Brown, no less) talking about how difficult it is for 2-income families earning 250,000 to get their kids a good education, etc. Absolutely clueless.
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    Thanks for this post Joe.

  • kathy

    Joe Bftsplk: Hah! right you are, it was Sean Quinn, not Nate Silver.

  • http://elvisberg.wordpress.com Elvis Elvisberg

    The simple fact is that benefits to the less well off are more stimulative, because they’re more likely to spend the money. The simple fact is that tax cuts for the wealthiest combined with massive spending hikes were always untenable.
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    If there were any genuinely conservative movement in this country, it would have been standing athwart the Bush administration, yelling “stop”. It wasn’t.
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    I’m sick of having to defend empirically true statements as “liberal” against the lies and obfuscations of “conservatives.” There’s reality based (65-70 percent of the country) and there’s not. It’s not ideological, it’s psychological.

  • Joe Bftsplk

    Kathy, it does please me so that you agree with me!

  • kathy

    Meanwhile, Manny Ramirez has once again turned down a $25,000,000 deal for one year with the dodgers, with a player option for 20 million next year. Raise this guy’s taxes.

  • http://smoothlikeremy.blogspot.com/ sgwhiteinfla

    Joe and Kathy
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    EXACTLY. But you see conservatives tried to have it both ways. After President Obama beat the sh*t out of McCain the conservatives had to cover by embracing President Obama and claiming he REALLY ran as a Ronald Reagan Democrat which means he is ACTUALLY conservative which means the country is ACTUALLY center right. Now after months of doing this they have to reverse course and start back calling him a socialist when he doesn’t live up to the strawman that they have tried to make him into by breaking this campaign promise. What the media and conservatives don’t seem to get is that they played all the gotcha journalism in the world last fall, they screamed from the hills that President Obama was going to tax everybody and kill small business (as well as eat babies) and that he was a socialist who wanted to redistribute wealth. And after all that he STILL whupped McCain’s monkey ass. He won’t lose any support because of this, hell thats what people voted for. If anything its just going to make them look even more out of touch and marginalized. They keep talking about deficits but then they don’t want to do the responsible thing and raise taxes to bring the deficit down. You know I would just love for Joe Klein or some other MSM journo who listens to these people to ask say a Joe Scarborough the next time he is on his show why Ronald Reagan, the republican messiah, never balanced the budget as president. But I am sure he won’t do it because then they won’t ever invite him back. But seriously these people are so inconsistent that its hard to see how they ever know which side of any argument they are actually on.

  • kathy

    Some group needs to pay for ads playing a clip of Cheney saying “deficits don’t matter,” to remind any citizens who’ve forgotten that was the tune Republicans were singing.
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    JoeB: :-D

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    For some reason I’m reminded of this:
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    http://www.nonzero.org/newyorker.htm
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    To explain what he means by “random,” Gould uses the metaphor of “the drunkard’s walk.” A drunk is heading down a sidewalk that runs east-west. Skirting the sidewalk’s south side is a brick wall, and on the north side is a curb and a street. Will the drunk eventually veer off the curb, into the street? Probably. Does this mean he has a “northerly directional tendency”? No. He’s just as likely to veer south as north. But when he veers south the wall bounces him back to the north. He is taking “a random walk” that just seems to have a directional tendency.
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    Part of the problem we have with arguments about wealth and taxation is the fact that there is a bottom but no top. There is a lower limit below which one cannot live viably in our society yet there is no limit to how much wealth someone can amass.
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    So like Willie Sutton who robbed banks because that was where the money was, government, when faced with an important social need, has to go where the money is if it hopes to pay for that need.
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    What’s astounding about our current debates is that the people who stand to pay more due to progressive taxation have managed to find a bunch of allies among people who don’t by instilling hatred against people who are even poorer and using buzzwords like ‘socialism’ and ‘welfare cheats’ to describe the process of seeing to it that the Middle class doesn’t have to trip over the Homeless on their way to work.

  • http://policingwingnutwelfare.blogspot.com/ JJ

    Another value of progressivism is the respect for science and a belief that a reasonable degree of objectivity is possible. We can see that these values are in trouble when we look at the recent goings on with George Will and his editors at the Washington Post: http://scienceblogs.com/intersection/2009/02/george_will_lies_music_to_my_e.php

  • carotexas1

    This was my favorite answer from Gibbs in Seans post.
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    Gibbs: Certainly some of them, that’s what their job is. But I would reject this overall premise that when we’re asking for tax fairness from the American people, that this is going to kill jobs. I guess if I follow the logic of the Republicans on Capitol Hill, how do you explain last month’s unemployment figures? (Pause.) Under current tax rates? 550,000 jobs

  • 2cute4prison

    Good link Joe…and Kathy :)
    PD said: What’s astounding about our current debates is that the people who stand to pay more due to progressive taxation have managed to find a bunch of allies among people who don’t by instilling hatred against people who are even poorer and using buzzwords like ‘socialism’ and ‘welfare cheats’ to describe the process of seeing to it that the Middle class doesn’t have to trip over the Homeless on their way to work.
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    Well said, I thought about that arguing with my family over Christmas dinner. Here’s a table full of poor people arguing that the rich people should get even more. That’s marketing for you!

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  • stuartzechman

    Joe Klein:
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    Has all of that “screeching” to which you refer always come from conservative Republicans?
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    …Or has it also been just as predictable in coming from centrist Democrats?
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    The Incredible Shrinking Democrats
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    Bush’s private investment accounts, combined with a reduction in benefits or higher taxes, is one way for baby boomers to lighten the burden of our retirement upon our children. There are other ways, but none without pain. A far more profitable—and absolutely necessary—reform would be a market-oriented overhaul of Medicare, but Dems just say no to that too.
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    The current Democrats resemble nothing so much as the Republicans during the 25 years after Roosevelt’s death—negative, defensive, intellectually feeble, a permanent minority.
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    There is, then, a profitable discussion to be had between “ownership” Republicans and “third-way” Democrats about transforming the stagnant bureaucracies of the Industrial Age

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    If there’s a “purest bright line available to divide liberals from conservatives“, surely there must be something similarly incandescent that divides liberals from centrists.
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    Or could you possibly be claiming now that you’re actually a liberal, Joe Klein?
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    Is that possible after all this time?

  • Art Pepper

    Great post. Shout this from the rooftops.
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    But also what Stuart said. Maybe we’re finally waking up from the long slumber of the Reagan era?

  • Aaron

    If a progressive is someone concerned about income inequality, then a progressive I shall be.
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    Come on, Stuartzechman. I need my contrarian indicator!

  • stuartzechman

    Thanks for the link, Aaron!

  • http://policingwingnutwelfare.blogspot.com/ JJ

    By the way, Joe (if you’re reading) is there any way you could give a boost to Chris Mooney’s calling Hiatt’s bluff on the George Will column? http://scienceblogs.com/intersection/2009/02/my_email_to_fred_hiatt_of_the.php (Phone calls, or whatever you do there in belwayville…)

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    Elvis Elvisberg:

    The simple fact is that benefits to the less well off are more stimulative, because they’re more likely to spend the money.

    That’s absolutely spot on. However, it’s also worth noting that while an increasingly progressive tax scale will help salve the increasing difference between the salaries of the very rich and the poor, it will not solve the problem in the long term. That will require structural reforms, most probably in the areas of corporate governance.

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    The blogosphere is chewing up Will and Hiatt and spitting them out:
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    Virtually, anyway. Fred Hiatt still owns a printing press. The blog geeks don’t. So he can still choose to pour boiling oil down over the castle walls if he wants. “Prestige media” you know…

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  • cavy2

    Wow – you guys sound angry. You know,the tax code seems pretty progressive now especially when you add in stealth tax increases like AMT and disappearing deductions. The IRS has some pretty eye popping stats on the total tax burden on top earners. Just as with Clinton, I’d feel better about sharing my hard earned wealth if “my” president didn’t keep making me out to be the enemy. I didn’t cause any of this. I didn’t victimize anybody, steal their money or cheat. I always stayed within my means – even when I was poor and worked my ass off. I’m not crazy at having my money confiscated, especially since my retirement savings are shot (like everyone else’s) and my home value is down. But I’d rather pay more taxes than identify with the victim mentality. I rejected that when I was young and poor and am the better for it. I am not the enemy – but it appears I’m your solution. At least talk nice to me.

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