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Bobby Jindal’s Blustery Day

Bobby Jindal is a very smart fellow. Back when he was in Congress, I’d try to check in with him every six months or so, just to see what he was thinking about. At first, we talked about health insurance–his specialty. Then, about the federal response to Hurricane Katrina (he was appalled). He was fairly relentlessly conservative, but sometimes quite creative and always intellectually honest. 

In short, a different fellow from the one who appeared on Meet the Press today. This Jindal was relentlessly conservative, but not so intellectually honest. The Governor of Louisiana has made headlines this week by threatening to refuse the stimulus package funds headed to his state. But he’s not going to do that, really. He’s going to accept all the money heading his way–except for the funds associated with one program, a permanent change in the rules governing the provision of unemployment insurance to part-time workers. 

He spent an awful lot of time griping about the overall stimulus package–although, in the end, that was pretty much a distortion, too. When it came down to it, Jindal didn’t like the aforementioned unemployment insurance provision and the slight trims on tax breaks for small businesses. He also didn’t like some of the infrastructure spending–on high-speed rail. He also didn’t like $50 million orginially proposed for the National Endowment of the Arts. (I’m not even sure that famous $50 million made it into the final bill, although I hope it did: a country whose children have a more supple knowledge of music and art will, without question, have more sophisticated and productive workers.)

To summarize: Jindal opposes the unemployment codicil, the slimmer tax breaks for small businesses, the support for high-speed rail and the money for the arts. That leaves the overwhelming bulk of the stimulus package, which he presemably supports. A fair question would have been: Governor Jindal, if you were given a take it or leave it choice on the entire package headed for your state, would you take it or leave it? The answer, of course: he’d take it. And so would nearly every one of the Republicans who hooted and howled and grandstanded against the bill. They had the luxury of voting against it because they knew it would pass. I’d venture to say not a single Democrat who voted for the bill was 100% pleased with it. Many probably had objections as substantive, and ultimately as peripheral, as Jindal’s. But they voted for the bill because they are now the majority party and it would have been irresponsible, given the economic free-fall, not to do so. 

At one point in the interview, Jindal–who seems to be running for President–trotted out the standard Republican boilerplate about the need for a package with more tax cuts, especially in the capital gains tax. David Gregory pointed out that we’d just had eight years of that philosophy, and it hadn’t done very much to help  job creation or median incomes. Jindal resorted to the Republican fantasy playbook–to the Kennedy and Reagan tax cuts, which allegedly helped boost the economy. (Actually, it was the Carter-Volcker monetary reforms that set the economy on a more stable path for growth in the early 1980s.) Needless to say, Jindal didn’t mention either the Reagan tax increases (proportionately the largest in U.S. history) or the slightly smaller Clinton increases, which led to the lowering of interest rates and the economic boom of the 1990′s. Nor did he mention the 30 years of neglect the nation’s infrastructure has suffered during the Reagan era–not just the neglect of roads and bridges and levees, but also of the sorts of high-tech and green  infrastructure programs (including mass transit and high-speed rail) that will lay the basis for a more efficient economy in the future.

In other words, Jindal–the alleged voice of the GOP future–had absolutely nothing new to say. And what he did say, about the stimulus, was purposefully misleading. I’m not sure how well the Obama stimulus, banking and budget plans will work. No one does. But I do know how the philosophy and the misleading politics that Jindal offered today has worked in the recent past.

It’s been a disaster.

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  • kathy

    Those Republicans who are opposing the plan and seemingly hoping it will fail (while predicting it will fail) are despicable.
    .
    mistake alert: “30 years of neglect the nation’s infrastructure has suffered during the Reagan era” should read “since the Reagan era.”

  • http://derekg.wordpress.com/ Derek

    The Republicans are going to take the commie’s money, with a snarl on their face. Only with a great deal of reluctance and disgust, will they take it. After the last 8 years, they obviously know best.

    The funniest part, and saddest, is how they posture at being competent, give the mountain of empirical evidence suggesting the opposite, that clogs their recent history.
    .
    The new mantra appears to be, patriotism is obtained by opposing the president, even if you agree with him.

  • palininatowel

    Palin or Jindal? How will Republicans ever choose in 2012?
    .
    Heh.

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    In science when one proposes a theory, it is then subject to verification by a process of experimentation. If, upon examination, it is found to be false, then it is abandoned and appears only as a footnote in the history of the correct theory.
    .
    Why then, in politics, do we find that if a theory fails to hold up to scrutiny, rather than being abandoned, it is clubg to even more forcefully and defended even more voriciously (if comically.)
    .
    Why is everyone insisting that tax cuts will work great if we only clap louder?

  • wvng

    PaulD, because the evil liberals aren’t clapping at all. Jeeze.

  • carotexas1

    I thought he seemded more concerned about business than the citizens that live in his state.
    .
    I wonder if he has thought about who works in part time jobs? Women voters and college students were my experience when I worked retail. I thought that these were the people the Republicans would like to have vote for them?

  • http://elvisberg.wordpress.com Elvis Elvisberg

    Republicans didn’t have any interest in responsible governance when they controlled Washington. Why would anyone expect them to start caring now?
    -
    Also, maybe Jindal’s right, and we should reinstitute the top tax rates of the Kennedy or early Reagan eras– your choice, Bobby, 91% or 50%.
    -
    Jindal may well be a smart fellow, but he wants to be a big time GOP candidate. He knows if there’s an inch of daylight between himself and Rush Limbaugh on major issues, he’ll be attacked by the dwindling, isolated, despised, rabid GOP base.
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    It’s a shame to see apparently intelligent people like Greg Mankiew and Ross Douthat say false things and shy away from important issues, all because they want to curry favor with a party gone astray. Profiles in careerism and cowardice. Just like Bobby Jindal.

  • http://smoothlikeremy.blogspot.com/ sgwhiteinfla

    Funny thing about Jindal’s stance. If he actually refused the funds for unemployment as he said he will, tht would qualify as less than 2% of the funds Louisianna is eligible to recieve. Yeah thats REALLY walking out on a limb there goverener. You’re ONLY going to take more than 98% of the money lol.
    .
    I wonder how many MSM folks will point this out.

  • http://www.hulagate.org hulagate

    And now a word about math:

    … … …

    WW II effectively ended the era of
    protectionism, which led to higher
    employment, greater use of available
    resources, creation of disposable
    income, entire new industries, the
    desire for better educations, the
    need for improved infrastructure,
    etc. Lots of trade, lots of
    demand.

    Short of declaring war on Mexico
    we need leadership that harnesses
    the same sense of priority, but
    I doubt either party has that now.

    Some of this in the long run will
    be good, to cut out excess capacity,
    pollution, and plain old greed, BUT
    many people will suffer and be further
    cheated by the attempts to balance
    the ship.

    The POTUS needs to pay very close
    attention to the G-D Russians, old
    Euros, and militants at home that
    will seek to use this to hammer the
    U.S., democracy, DOD, so on.

    DO NOTHING was a viable option for
    Uncle Sam, since some of the banks
    and mortgage houses deserve to fail.

    The smart and efficient move would have
    been to insure accounts up to 250k
    each, and then let the bubble burst.
    We are just delaying the inevitable
    contraction, and like FDR likely making
    it longer and more expensive.

    The safe bets are food, some computer
    stuff (Intel, Microsoft now cheap).
    GE is scary low, due to their credit
    segments but should survive. There
    are many more good companies than bad
    ones; that does not always make them
    less susceptible to declines, when cash
    is required to pay other bills.

    The shareholders will take their licks,
    and they have to demand much better
    management in the future at lower exec
    pay rates, since the unions too will
    be forced to retrench deeply if they
    want to have any future (better no).
    $5 million a year tops is plenty.

    The Dow is about 1000 points below
    where it should have bottomed so
    all estimates on Time are questionable,
    but this will be a 3-5 year thing and
    that’s how it should be handled by the
    nitwits in DC — though they’ve started
    off poorly.

    Obama may be a 1 termer like Carter; if
    Romney can get his social story straight
    he may have a slim shot in 2012, with
    Jindal as VEEP.

    Palin should be put on a boat and pushed
    toward Iceland.

  • flagrantenigma

    So Jindal is a “very smart fellow” who just happens to be hopelessly out of date, likes to talk out of his ass, and is a nailed-on hypocrite? You don’t see any problem with this flagrant contradiction, Joe?

  • flagrantenigma

    Hulagate, Iceland has enough problems without Mooseslayer washing up in the driftwood. And what’s with the dadaist style of writing? Have you finally decided that form and content must run parallel?

  • yoshiattack

    Save for the “boilerplate,” as put, about capital gains tax breaks, I think Bobby Jindal is just speaking his mind.
    .
    Mr. Klein, you give a fairly substantive rebuttal of the tax issue, but the rest of your essay comes down to avoiding any substantial counterpoints to the rest of Gov. Jindal’s points. Your bit about the Arts foundation is ridiculous. This is a stimulus bill. It’s supposed to be a quick patch for the economy, hence the reason why it was rushed through Congress so quickly. We should NOT be packing in bonuses of dubious effect in such a bill. Period. Gov. Jindal was right.
    .
    Also, that was a cool $98 million he rejected. I believe that constitutes taking a stand.

  • http://www.hulagate.org hulagate

    “Republicans didn’t have any interest in responsible governance when they controlled Washington.”

    Blanket statements like these, from the DNC hacks here including Klein, do get noticed.

    Not in a good way, but they are recorded.

    The better budgets of the 90′s were products of REPUBLICAN demands, leftwits — not any Clixonian divine intervention, but the conservative tilt of the voters (that appear to have suffered through some really selfish and stupid children in 2008).

    Obama’s chomped off more than even Monica could swallow, and his job now will be to save himself from himself, since he’s been so poorly served by the partial peabrain staff around him.

    He might start by not worrying about 2012 just yet, and actually doing something intelligent — like getting Pelosi and Reid to stand down from their socialist trappings and get to work on hacking off about 90% of the DEAD WEIGHT in the civilian federal employee corps.

    They could can most of the IRS “workers” on Tuesday, and we’d be no worse for it — since the computers do most of the real work there, with a fairly small staff*. The make work of the Treasury was a Congressional gift to dem districts going back to the 60′s and they’re still shoveling paperwork today, on the same Tingle Tables.

    * Maybe 30 years ago a guy I knew in D.C. was the sole night shift IRS employee that uploaded the nationally overnighted tax tapes to the computer systems in Washington. I’m sure he’s happily retired to some Mexican island by now, but at the time I couldn’t get over the fact that a complete STONER had the financial tax balls of the country in his cigarette stained fingers, on a nightly basis, in the quiet and protected confines off the Mall. He was high AND competent, I guess. Maybe the Michael Phelps of the mainframe set?

    Anyhoo, the political football the libs keep wanting to kick around like it was 43 gets tired pretty quick.

    Rahm missed the memo again, of course.

  • http://www.hulagate.org hulagate

    To reiterate, there are entire federal agencies that could be eliminated (PRIVATIZED), and others with staffs that could and should be severely reduced in size and budget.

    The shareholders of the ship of state should demand better, must demand better, for the bailouts current and forthcoming, in this grand plan to redistribute success to failures.

    Other than national defense and national parks, the feds need to get out of everything they touch and ultimately mis-manage, including the money flow.

    If Alabama and Utah start printing their own currency, I may just get some — and wish Calistan good luck.

  • http://www.hulagate.org hulagate

    “…what’s with the dadaist style…”

    We are the Borg, but we’re not all yet assimilated.

  • shepherdwong

    Good post. The only thing missing is what it means when an entire political party decides to work against the interests and advancement of the nation to further their own political power and personal gain. There’s a word for people like that and I’ll be it isn’t used much on the cocktail weenie circuit. They either believe their own crap which makes them merely crazy or it’s all a big lie designed to fool the people and obstruct good government which makes them all traitors.

  • http://www.hulagate.org hulagate

    “The only thing missing is what it means when an entire political party decides to work against the interests and advancement of the nation to further their own political power and personal gain.”

    STOP PICKING ON DASHOLE AND DINGEL.

  • http://www.hulagate.org hulagate

    “They either believe their own crap which makes them merely crazy or it’s all a big lie designed to fool the people and obstruct good government which makes them all traitors.”

    HEY HEY YOU YOU GET OFFA BILL AYERS.

  • themaverickformerlyknownasbasilbrush

    Multiple personalities as well, eh, Hula?

  • themaverickformerlyknownasbasilbrush

    The problem with Yoshi’s claims about the arts are that they simply aren’t true, and don’t, frankly, make much sense. The arts are a major employer, and most artists are small businesses, which is just what the stimulus ought to.. er stimulate.

  • http://www.hulagate.org hulagate

    themaverickformerlyknownasbasilbrush
    … …

    We all like a good Pizz Cripes now and then at the spa entrance, but that’s not exactly vital infrastructure, IS it?

    Some things people are just going to have to pay for THEMSELVES, and not on their neighbor’s dime.

  • themaverickformerlyknownasbasilbrush

    Hulagate, stimulus and infrastructure spending may overlap, but are not the same thing. Don’t you know anything about the economy?

  • http://smoothlikeremy.blogspot.com/ sgwhiteinfla

    yoshia
    .
    Yeah, Jindal is ONLY going to take 98% of the money offered to Louisianna. THAT will show them!!!
    .
    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  • feebea

    Republican economic policies were indeed a disaster, Mr. Klein, and thank you for pointing that out. We just experienced a lost decade where we didn’t pursue life-saving medical technology, we favored the fossil fuel business over new innovations, we ignored environmental issues and clean technology and did not invest in our own infrastructure. Jindal represents more of the same. He doesn’t want to invest in high speed rail. How typical of Republicans to be completely without vision.

    Jindal isn’t just turning money down for the unemployed, he is turning down $9 Mil that would have been spent in his state, much of it at small businesses. What would a small business owner prefer, a tax cut or a customer? Without customers, what good is a tax break. His state is facing massive deficints and he turning down the tax revenue that would come to the state with the spending of federal money. That will translate into fewer teachers for their children.

    What a cheap political ploy to put his own political ambitions ahead of the citizens of his state.

  • themaverickformerlyknownasbasilbrush

    I can see the attack ads now:

    “When times were hard, President Obama and the Democratic Party passed legislation to help Louisiana… but Bobby Jindal refused the money. Doesn’t he care about helping Louisiana? Bobby Jindal – good for GOP talkingpoints, bad for hardworking Americans”.

  • rose83

    What Paul Dirks said.

  • Cliff

    In other words, Jindal–the alleged voice of the GOP future–had absolutely nothing new to say.
    .
    It’s pretty great. Hulagate & Co. are riding the Irrelevant Train to History Town, and we’re cheering them on.

  • themaverickformerlyknownasbasilbrush

    Cliff, I believe that the HulaTrain passes through Hysteria and Wingnut on its way to History.

  • shepherdwong

    “‘They either believe their own crap which makes them merely crazy or it’s all a big lie designed to fool the people and obstruct good government which makes them all traitors.’

    HEY HEY YOU YOU GET OFFA BILL AYERS.”
    .
    I’m sorry, I wasn’t specific enough. Professional Republicans, who lie to the public to raise anti-government hostility and otherwise obstruct good government to advance their own interests against the interests of the country as a whole, are traitors to the United States of America. Understand now?

  • floridakaye

    I watched Gov Jindal this morning – what a transparent clown. He and his politically motivated crony Govs across America can rest assured no one but their closed-minded uninformed constituents are buying their bushel of manure. Have to say I’ve been so disappointed in David Gregory at MTP … lots of bluster, but no balls.

  • http://www.hulagate.org hulagate

    Jindal is disinkleined to accept the nanny state as be all and end all?

    More power to him.

  • http://www.hulagate.org hulagate

    If Joe wants to investigate something local, he could start with the screaming libs running the Combined Federal Campaign — one of the most union entrenched, Hatch Act violating monstrosities in U.S. history.

    Coercion, by any other Chicago name.

  • Cliff

    basilbrush – I agree, it won’t be a smooth ride for them. A lot of them will probably get motion sick.

  • themaverickformerlyknownasbasilbrush

    Cliff, do you also feel deeply reassured when Hula supports something or someone? Every time she pops up to endorse the GOP, I start to believe that they are destined to be out of power for at least a decade, maybe two.

  • Cliff

    I do. I have a theory that hulagate is the guru of being wrong, that his words define what is right in the way that negative space can define a shape.

  • oizydoizy

    If Jindal glues himself to Limbaugh and the religious right, that gives Romney ample room to create a platform that sensible Republicans can rally around.

    Romney would be stupid to try to out-Jindal Jindal. Romney has already shown that he has no shot with “real America” outside the mountain west, so the best he can do is to make actual economic sense and try to pick off disaffected Obamacons.

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  • Donut

    When the total amount his state will receive approaches $8 billion, or just about 10% of the entire stimulus, Jindal’s rejection of this $90-add million is a complete joke. The word for this type of ham-handed play is simly “disingenuous.” The man may have some actual interest in doing what’s right for the people of his state, I’ll grant that, but it should be clear to anyone thinking rationally that he and his political advisers have decided this is the ideal moment – appearing bold without taking any true risk – for him to get his name out in the national media. David Gregory was all to happy to comply with the game, and while Gregory mentioned Jindal’s greater ambitions lightheartedly, he didn’t keep up the tough questions or hit him with hard follow-ups. Soft ball city. Nice job, Davey.

  • yutsano

    Romney would be stupid to try to out-Jindal Jindal. Romney has already shown that he has no shot with “real America” outside the mountain west, so the best he can do is to make actual economic sense and try to pick off disaffected Obamacons.
    -
    If Romney tried that route he’d get fought on two fronts: the Dem machine and the right-wing base. That leaves him a small sliver of the electorate he could possibly pick up, not to mention a near-impossible primary battle.
    -
    Also I don’t see Jindal becoming the Republican’s Obama. From what I understand (don’t quote me on this) but his star is fading fast already in Louisiana as all he has done so far is pretty much cut taxes. That’s it. No New Oreans revitalization, no plans for eliminating the state’s debt, nada. It will be telling to see how LA feels about him come 2011.

  • oizydoizy

    Also I don’t see Jindal becoming the Republican’s Obama.
     
    Neither do I. However, his movements over the next few years will belie the thoughts and fortunes of the incumbent Republican leadership. His ascendancy would mean the victory of the Dixie faction, and the failure of intellectually new blood to circulate to the top.
     
    I think Romney’s got an uphill climb, too. But if I were a financially-oriented Republican, I might take a second look at him, because what we all call his weaselly flip-flopping might eventually be rebranded as nimble pragmatism — something the GOP has been sorely lacking in recent decades.

  • yutsano

    I think Romney’s got an uphill climb, too. But if I were a financially-oriented Republican, I might take a second look at him, because what we all call his weaselly flip-flopping might eventually be rebranded as nimble pragmatism — something the GOP has been sorely lacking in recent decades.
    -
    The flip-flops will be the same hammer they used against him in 2008, along with enacting a universal health care scheme (which the more I study on that the more I’m convinced it was designed to fail) and actually doing some very pragmatic acts as governor that will paint him as not a true conservative. Plus let’s face it: the Christian right still has the Reps in a stranglehold, and forcing a Temple Mormon down their throats will send them into apoplectics. Not even Palin as a VP choice would save Romney from that.

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    According to Michael Calderone at poltico.com, Joe Klein didn’t discover that Time magazine’s Jay Carney was a Democrat until he began working for that hair-plugged buffoon, serial plagiarist and Soviet useful idiot. Is anyone surprised that Klein is now pleading for all socialist takers? What’s next? Will he provide, unsolicited, his expertise on warfare?

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    “that hair-plugged buffoon, serial plagiarist and Soviet useful idiot”

    Textee, what does Reagan have to do with this? Explain yourself, child.

  • hopefulemoticon

    Clearly a missed opportunity for Jindal. He had an opportunity to establish himself as a leader of the Republican Party and he blew it. Now, instead of leading the party, he’s following…John Boehner??

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    As far as I can tell, it’s NOT a permanent change.

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    You wonder if Jindal will be the face of the GOP after too long.

    Wait…The rest of the party sounds just like him on taxes and spending and everything else. Yep, the GOP is in trouble.

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  • dencal26

    He also didn’t like some of the infrastructure spending–on high-speed rail. He also didn’t like $50 million orginially proposed for the National Endowment of the Arts. (I’m not even sure that famous $50 million made it into the final bill, although I hope it did:

    Well Joe the National Endowment of the Arts is NOT something that will stimulate the economy. So you have exposed yourself here.

  • dencal26

    Lets recap here
    A Secretary of State who Obama himself said had no foriegn policy experience
    A Tax Cheat for Treasury
    A revolving door of Tax Cheats for Nominees
    A CIA chief that has less experience than Austin Powers. Is Leon still looking for the Telephone Booth Entrance to CIA?
    A so called Stimulus Bill filled with Pork and massive spending that won’t stimulate anything but Chris Matthews Leg
    Hillary begging China to lend us more money
    Ruling by the DOJ that holding detainees in Bagram Airbase without charges is perfectly legal
    Ruling by the Obama Pentagon that GITMO does in fact meet all requirements of Geneva.
    Obama signing executive order in support of Rendition ( Sending terrorists to 3rd party nations to get tortured)
    The most massive spending bill in in History
    Deficit is up 800% since Dems took House and Senate in 2007

    Americans will wake up soon.

  • 53_3

    “Americans will wake up soon.”
    .
    Yoo hoo! dencal26! Where are you! Here’s your kibbles!
    .
    Um, dencal26? They already did. Or didn’t you notice? You know? That election thingie? Yeah, that election thingie!
    .
    Why are you still partying like it’s 1999?

  • rmrd

    dencal represents a political party that is so bereft of ideas that it’s new RNC chair believes that the only way it can appeal to the African-American community is by becoming more Hip-Hop. No true policy ideas are needed, just play some music with a beat and Blacks will move to the GOP.

    About 30% of the public agrees with the GOP on the approach to the financial crisis. The Democratic Congress has more than a 10% approval advantage over the Republican Congress. The GOP has become an echo chamber talking to a minority of voters.

    Rush Limbaugh is the true leader of the GOP, and Limbaugh finished behind Reverend Jeremiah Wright in a recent approval poll. dencal’s political party is a joke.

    Jindal will take the stimulus funds or be another GOP loser when he comes up for re-election.

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  • flagrantenigma

    dencal26 Says:
    Well Joe the National Endowment of the Arts is NOT something that will stimulate the economy. So you have exposed yourself here.
    .
    .

    Better trolls, please. Many artists are small business owners, and helping them does add to the stimulus. But why should a Republican understand economics? You enabled Reagan to hike the deficit to unparalleled heights – until the age of MiniBush, that is. You’ve wrecked the middle class, which is where economic growth begins. You’ve underfunded education, science and infrastructure, and damaged America’s prospects in the real world. And now you want to slither ashore and preach for more of the same. Well, as far as Americans are concerned, you can swim right back to Fantasy Island, along with Jindal, McCain, Romney and the rest of the Krazy Kooky Klown gang.

  • rmrd

    flagrantenigma
    dencal and hulagat live in their own reality. From TPM today

    Poll Analysis: Fall In Obama Approval Fueled Entirely By Republicans
    By Eric Kleefeld – February 23, 2009, 9:55AM

    A new polling analysis from Gallup shows a very interesting piece of data within the slight decline of President Obama’s approval rating, down from its 68% honeymoon rating when he took office, to 63% now. Not only is the dip fueled solely by a fall in Republican support — in fact, his ratings have gone up slightly among everyone else.

    Between the polling sample from January 21-25, compared to February 9-15, Obama’s ratings went from 90% to 94% among self-identified liberal Democrats, from 87% to 88% among moderate Dems, from 80% to 84% with conservative Dems, and from 47% to 50% among independents. On the other hand, his approval fell from 53% to 47% moderate Republicans, with a plummet of 36% down to 22% with conservative Republicans.

    Obama’s ratings are still very strong, and it appears the dip in his ratings is coming from people who were unlikely to have approved of him in the first place, but for the honeymoon factor. Everyone else, on the other hand, is either staying the same or approving even more.

  • wombat28756

    Right this moment, the 2012 GOP nomination looks like it may not be worth much. Obviously, it depends on how popular Obama stays.

    And so this little freak Jindal gets ink. The top tier prospects are waiting-&-seeing.

    I’ll probably get hell for saying this, but Bobby Jindal is not a WASP. Yes, I know Michael Steele is GOP National Committee Chairman. But if you want the GOP to run you for president, you better be a WASP. (I think.)

    David Petraeus is who they want. They’ll market him as a modern-day Dwight Eisenhower. Petraeus is not a dummy. He’s already told them he won’t just go out and take a dive, that he means to be president.

    Petraeus is waiting-&-seeing. If not ’12, then ’16.

    Should Obama falter, there’ll be a sudden Petraeus retirement from the Army. Then, almost immediately, a prescripted GOP “Draft Petraeus for President” hoopla. Of course, it’ll all be fake. It always is with those people.

    They’ll sell us Petraeus as a reluctant, selfless, patriotic office-seeker whose candidacy was demanded by (cue the vomiting) a nationwide groundswell of popular acclaim.

    We are a very gullible country that’s prone to worship generals. It could work.

  • http://swampwoman.wordpress.com/2009/02/22/in-case-you-missed-it-this-morning/ in case you missed it this morning… « the mosquito coast

    [...] GOV. JINDAL: Well, let’s be clear. The best thing that Washington could do to help Louisiana and all of our states with our budgets is to get this economy moving again. I think we just have a fundamental disagreement here. I don’t think the best way to do that is for the government to tax and borrow more money. I think the best thing they could’ve done, for example, was to cut taxes on things like capital gains, the lower tax brackets, to get the private sector spending again. I think they had a provision the net operating losses to help small businesses. Unfortunately, they slimmed that down. They could’ve done some things on a real energy policy. If all they do is borrow federal money and give it to the states, all we’re really doing is delaying the inevitable. We’re eventually going to have to make these hard choices anyway. In Louisiana we made midyear reductions, $241 million. We’re going to have to do more with less. What would be more helpful from Washington is less unnecessary spending. How does $300 million for f… [...]

  • junkmailqueen

    I know I should say something incredibly erudite like most other posters here, but personally, I’m just all jazzed by the mental image of Bobby Jindal as Winnie the Pooh. Thanks Joe!

  • http://throughourlens.asianweek.com/?p=72 Through Our Lens » Awfully Disappointed with Jindal

    [...] Time Magazine’s Joe Klein said it best, from both an economic policy and political perspective. [...]

  • gloriousglo2

    Bobby Jindal…honors grad in biology from Brown University…Says he believes in Intelligent Design…I think that’s all you need to know about this guy.

  • joaquimaugustoleal

    Mr klein
    Why are you so insanely anti-republican?
    It looks as though you’re afraid the obama messianism will collapse like a deck of cards (as its looking incresaingly visible by the lack of thickness of the messiah)and republicans will regain power.
    that anger is just a reflection of insecurity, unlike the liberal mike kinsley who is naturally a strong analyst.
    Ah and beware that you’re writing to a classic conservative magazine. remember henry Luce?

    Best wishes from Portugal, Western Europe

    Joaquim Leal
    Lisbon

  • http://forums.thepoliticalasylum.com/opinions-like-assholes/28349-bobby-jindals-blustery-day.html#post298082 Bobby Jindal’s Blustery Day – The Political Asylum – Forums for Intelligent Discussion & Debate

    [...] Jindal’s Blustery Day The Link Provided, Because It’s the Right thing to do Joe Klein Bobby Jindal is a very smart fellow. Back when he was in Congress, I’d try to check in [...]

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