More From The Dept. Of Not Bush: Aboard Air Force One

Veterans of past flights aboard Air Force One with President Bush got good news and bad news Monday, as President Obama took the plane on his second cross-country jaunt for a town hall in Elkhart, Ind.

The good news: Unlike Bush, Obama and his staff gave reporters lots to do on the flight. Obama himself, in shirtsleeves, dipped into the press compartment to say hello, and chat about Camp David, where he spent the weekend shooting hoops and hitting golf balls. “You can see that in the summer it’s going to be a nice place,” the president said. Then came David Axelrod, the president’s top message guru, who tried to set the frame for understanding the day ahead.  “You know, one thing that we learned over two years is that there is a whole different conversation in Washington than there is out here,” he said, as the plane flew about 30,000 feet over the Midwest. “If I had listened to the conversation in Washington during the campaign for president, I would have jumped off a building about a year and a half ago.” He pointed to polling data from Gallup that showed wide approval for how Obama has handled the stimulus, and disapproval for the way congressional Republicans have handled the bill.

“They are not into the machinations that folks in Washington are in,” he continued, speaking about either the American people or those who spend their time at 30,000 feet. “They are not sweating this detail or that detail. They certainly don’t buy into the arguments that, you know, the New Deal was a failure and we shouldn’t intervene.”

A few minutes later, White House spokesman Robert Gibbs came back, also in shirtsleeves with Secret Service-issued cufflinks. He again tried to frame the debate, saying the president is more concerned about getting something passed quickly than he is about the details of the roughly “10 percent” of the stimulus package on which the House and Senate still differ. When asked if he could give reporters a tour of Air Force One, he confessed that he would be a lousy tour guide, saying he still gets lost walking through the plane.

Which brings us to the bad news*: All the newsmaking activity in the press cabin left almost no down time, let alone a moment to eat lunch, which was, in this case, a ham and cheese sandwich, served with fresh fruit on plates embossed with the seal of the president.

We are in the motorcade now. The president’s town hall is scheduled to begin shortly after noon.

*Sarcasm

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  • http://nicewhitelady.blogspot.com/ joyomama

    OK, since you never got back to me about the pen thing, I have a huge favor to ask. Ever since, 9/11, the security perimeter around Camp David has been expanded so as to block access to some of the most family-friendly hiking trails in Catoctin Mountain Park. The park ranger told me last fall that they were supposed to return to normal years ago but never did. Every time Camp David is in use, major portions of the surrounding area are inaccessible to the public. Example from last weekend:
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    Catoctin Mountain Park Announces Temporary Partial Park Closures
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    Please pass along that letting people enjoy the park on weekends would be change that thousands of area visitors would appreciated, especially by the youngest hikers.

  • http://nicewhitelady.blogspot.com/ joyomama

    If you need specifics, the most kid-friendly trail is Hog Rock. Great even if you need to lug a two-year-old for part of it.

  • Matt

    You poor pressers. Why would the meanie White House and POTUS Obama make you actually work for a change? Shame on them…

    http://www.political-buzz.com/

  • billiecat

    Michael, if the bad news is Obama’s starving the press corps while doing the people’s busienss, I hope you aren’t expecting a lot of sympathy.

  • kbanginmotown

    The President?…in shirtsleeves?…on Air Force One…?
    Oh, the *shame* of it! No respect for the office! Blah, blah…

  • http://smoothlikeremy.blogspot.com/ sgwhiteinfla

    Scherer
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    Seriously bro, why open yourself up to criticism of an otherwise well written and informative post by complaining about not eating your ham n cheese? Its like you are a glutton for punishment. I tell you what, I personally won’t attack you for throwing that in at the end. But you gotta stop putting a bullseye on your chest. I mean you write enough wingnut bull crap as it is. Why sully the few times you give it to us straight.

  • michaelscherer

    I assure you that the above post is meant to be read as involving a bit of sarcasm. No one is complaining.

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    Here’s hoping that the success or failure of the Obama Presidency isn’t measured in the degree to which he makes reporters feel comfortable. It’s nice to comment on the amenities and I’m glad Obama is smart enough to recognize the opportunty to chat you up, but history tells us that when coverage itself is based on the quality of individual relationships, we citizens are the ones who end up suffering the most.

  • http://www.inworldstudios.com jayackroyd

    1) This is exactly what I was hoping they would do. But they have to realize that this is going to be a very rough road, because it is a direct attack on the Village. The people are with them, but the last week of coverage, where ideas like spending isn’t stimulative or that government can’t create jobs are treated respectfully.
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    Note MS’s savvy tone here.
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    He again tried to frame the debate, saying the president is more concerned about getting something passed quickly than he is about the details of the roughly “10 percent” of the stimulus package on which the House and Senate still differ.
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    There’s no frame here.
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    2) The narcissism never stops. The country is teetering on the brink of the worst precipice in a 100 years, and he’s worried about having to eat his taxpayer supplied ham sandwich too fast.

  • http://nicewhitelady.blogspot.com/ joyomama

    You forgot to use your sarcasm tags.

  • http://nicewhitelady.blogspot.com/ joyomama

    But I mean it about Camp David

  • http://www.inworldstudios.com jayackroyd

    I assure you that the above post is meant to be read as involving a bit of sarcasm.
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    Sure. We got that. But the thing you chose to be sarcastic about involved your own personal comfort.

  • michaelscherer

    A sarcasm tag has been added. I have not yet had a chance to figure out the pens. Will see if I can find out about the Camp David thing, but can not promise a quick turnaround.

  • Benny

    Did you think the “bad news” Scherer was going to reveal was maybe facing the fact that D.C. Villagers like him are insulated and need to get out of their comfort zones more often? WRONG—it’s really all about not getting his sammich as he flies outside the Beltway over the millions trying to put food on ordinary plates.

  • http://nicewhitelady.blogspot.com/ joyomama

    Forget the pens; and the Camp David thing doesn’t require a reply. I’ll know Change has arrived when I can take my granddaughter to Hog Rock on a POTUS weekends, and I’ll send you some home-made cookies.

  • billiecat

    joyo – cookies are fine, but Michael needs to eat his sandwich first. If you don’t eat your meat, you can’t have any pudding.

  • centfan

    Why must we endure the press alternating between looking through a microscope into a mirror or wearing a blindfold feeling parts of an elephant while the closest voice tells them what they think they’re touching (you know, the old object lesson on perceptions, the elephant’s leg is a “tree”, the trunk is a “snake”, and so on… ). Break the mirror, take off the blindfold, and stop feeling up elephants.

  • Suzie in MD

    joyomama,

    Are you in my neck of the woods (Hagerstown)?

  • http://nicewhitelady.blogspot.com/ joyomama

    Nope; Hyattsville area (near U of M), but I am a frequent visitor to that lovely region.

  • http://smoothlikeremy.blogspot.com/ sgwhiteinfla

    Scherer
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    http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/stimulus-package/obama-aides-rip-cable-news-dc-media-and-political-elite/#comment-1579
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    What did you make of this? Did Gibby really call you guys out? Are you and Tapper somewhere now plotting his downfall as retaliation? Is JMart down with the plan? Is Drudge promising to link to it with a siren?

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    That’s not all. In response to another question about Obama’s scheduled rally today in Elkhart, Indiana, Gibbs directly attacked the White House press corps. “We’ll get to measure whose questions were better over the course of the day — the voters of Elkhart or the reporters of Washington,” Gibbs says.

  • FlownOver

    So…
    What are Secret Service-issued cufflinks like? Do they have little microphones, or maybe frickin’ lasers?

  • cincinnatus est exterminata!

    Not to toot my own horn…ah f@ck it, I’m tooting my own horn, I’ve been pretty consistent that Obama was going to have to push back against the media, and to his credit we’re starting to see some of that now. I’d like to hear it directly from Obama’s mouth though, something nuanced like…”but the Beltway mentality is fighting the change we need. The politicians, the lobbyists, the media, they are all addicted to the same type of thinking that put us in this situation in the first place”. Oh yeah, and some decent Dem talking heads would be nice.

  • http://www.inworldstudios.com jayackroyd

    sg:
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    This was presaged by Obama making the mouth movements with his fingers, talking about cable chatterers. It’s funny that McCain thought he could win by attacking the media for bias, while Obama’s about to attack them for being stupid and out of touch. “We’ll see who asks the better questions, the reporters or the citizens.”

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    FlownOver
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    I was wondering the same thing. Like some Inspector Gadget cufflinks or something lol

  • http://nicewhitelady.blogspot.com/ joyomama

    I thought the citizens did better on that account. Even the Scarborough fan, who made no attempt to mask her point of view and source of misinformation. How about if journalists tried asking honest questions on behalf of the citizenry? Wowzer.

  • http://www.inworldstudios.com jayackroyd

    Cincy-
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    About a minute into this Williamsburg clip, Obama refers to “cable chatter” quite derisively. You can hear gasps in the audience, then laughter and cheers.
    .

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    jay
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    I can’t click your link

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  • mccainfluffer

    How dare those Obama folks! Who do they think they are insulting the sensibilities of the Villagers? Next thing you know, they will be saying David Broder is out of touch with the American people….

    Seriously though, I expect Villager “Blowback” against Obama.

  • http://www.inworldstudios.com jayackroyd


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    Preview not exactly accurate I guess.

  • http://www.inworldstudios.com jayackroyd

    Seriously though, I expect Villager “Blowback” against Obama.
    .
    Yeah. But they started out as stenographs of the lies. Obama’s common sense policy comments are a direct assault on the Village. They are well aware of this. That’s why they spent the week with an “Obama losing” narrative, even when it had them airing government officials saying that government jobs aren’t really jobs.
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    This is going to be ugly; the cable chatterers are now going to be in reality has an Obama bias territory, which completely messes up their ability to control the narrative. Not to mention Obama’s email lists and viral support network. Stengel better start thinking fast. Newsweek is giving up the news business. US News is now a monthly.

  • sneezeguard

    Ever since information became free and easily accessible over a number of mediums and outlets (this includes both factual information and misinformation), reporters have more and more struggled with how to justify the existance of well… so many of them.
    They should do a jury duty style press pool for the president whenever he shows up in a town. ‘As a citizen, it is your civic duty to sit in this room for a few hours, raise your hand, and if the president calls on you to ask any random question that comes to mind.’

  • cincinnatus est exterminata!

    Thanx for the link Jay, I’d like something stronger tying the media in w/ the Beltway oligarchy. I’d really like him to make a comparison between media behavior in the run-up to Iraq and their behavior now, stacking the deck against the stimulus in the same way they stacked the deck in favor of invasion.
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    This clip gets right to the ‘chatters’ part:

  • cincinnatus est exterminata!

    …actually in the interests of accuracy I should have said the Financial oligarchy because the Beltway elites, media included, are only working at their behest.

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    On a related note: Here’s Jay Rosen and Glenn Greenwald talking to Bill Moyers about the Beltway mentality. (From this week’s Moyers program)

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    “They certainly don’t buy into the arguments that, you know, the New Deal was a failure and we shouldn’t intervene.”
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    Amazing how little reporting about things that matter, details for instance, or substance is coming out of this new, “transparent”, administration. Who knew transparent meant the equivalent of “empty suit”.

  • rilster

    Amazing article. How much do you suppose a ride on Air Force One cost the taxpasyers to go a mere 152 miles. Jump the CEO’s of our auto manufacturers for using their private jets to fly cross country for a meeting, the CEO’s of banking for buying private jets and then waste tax dollars to go a mere 152 miles on a 747 with support aircraft and press plane. Definately a different administration “NOT”

  • http://cestuncoupdebelette.wordpress.com/ La Belette lachinoise

    I’d like to know what happened to the request the girls had for a dog? I know a shelter in Winnipeg (Manitoba, Canada) has a litter of rescued black and tan labradoodles and they were planning to offer one to Mr. Obama. The even enlisted PM Harper to convey the offer! Prime Minister Harper has taken cats as temporary shelter (at 24 Sussex Dr., our “White House”!), he seems to be “into” household pets. It would be a fun gesture.

  • rilster

    Previous post is in reference to the trip made aboard Airforce One from DC to Williamsburg VA for a democrat function

  • http://cestuncoupdebelette.wordpress.com/ La Belette lachinoise

    How much is a US President’s time worth per hour? Should he waste his time (and be a sitting duck) travelling by road or train? It’s probably a lot cheaper in security measures if he travels by plane. Not sure it’s a waste if you consider everything.

  • rodbuilder321

    Two questions for Mr. Obama…………..

    So where’s the little guy in this “stimulus” bill? Why don’t you give $75,000 tax-free to everyone making under $100,000 a year? The cost of that would be under $20 billion and it would REALLY boost the economy, because that money would be used to pay off people’s bills and those bogus mortgages that got us in to trouble..

    THEN you’d have a chance at helping the economy from BOTH ends. After all – you can’t put a fire out by squirting water at the flames. You have to direct the water at the BASE of the problem!

    Is an economy any different?

    DO THE MATH – Isn’t the working class worth this small investment in our future?????????

    Phil Moore – Dixon, Illinois

  • softballdad60

    I agree with others who have said give main street a real refund that they can use to stimulate the economy. This petty 500 and 1000 doesn’t do any thing. Most of us will pay the rent or buy food and nothing else, better yet ask about the plane that Nancy Pelosi uses at a cost fo $60,000 one way to take her home?? Give me a portion of that and I assure you it will be spent on stimulating the economy, such as some of the products we need but cannot get. Being retired has limitations, with a limited income given what the economy has done.

  • 55stl

    Will Nancy Pelosi continue to run the stimulus package show? I hope not. Let’s see more Obama and others, and less Pelosi and Reid in future bills. Also, folks, let’s get off the how-big-is-my-tax-cut discussion and on to the future. Economists (and me) want bigger $ spent by the government, more stimulus and less bail-out. Let’s NOT be Japan, and sit around doing nothing for 10 years. And let’s tell that to the Republicans. Keep reminding Republicans their ideas failed – it resonates out here in fly-over country (STL MO). What else resonates out here in fly-over country is that whatever it takes to “fix” things, ie. get the financial markets working again and people back to work, is fine by us.

  • vickerydk

    A few comments from a 46 year old Republican, if you please. 1. I stopped math after college Algebra but even I know how to only buy what I can afford. Anyone who thinks they have a bogus mortgage should learn how to use a calculator. 2. While some number of Americans would take a large stimulus check and make smart economic decisions with it, the same Americans with ‘bogus’ mortgages would likely blow it on non-enduring toys. 3. I was smart enough to reaize the sarcasm of the sandwich comment before I even saw the asterick. 4. We didn’t get in this mess overnight and we won’t get out of it overnight. As usual with most Americans today they want to blame everyone but themselves for their mess. When I grew up not everyone got picked for the team, not everyone got a trophy, and they actually did keep score and someone won and someone lost. We have a whole generation of Americans who have no idea how to be responsible for their actions.
    Keep up the great blog. Very interesting read.

  • 55stl

    Re vickerydk’s “Republican” comment: always blame for the folks who took out the mortgages, but never any blame laid at the feet of those who really caused the mess: the financiers who bundled worthless real estate transactions and sold them as “investments”. Does anyone really believe our economy could not have absorbed defaulted home mortgages, even 1000s of them? It was the bundling of these and other faulty commercial real estate transactions and selling them as “securities” that brought the financial world to its knees. Please. And it’s mostly Republicans who scream around about “free” markets and “no regulations” and “no government” that brought us to this point. It’s time for some regulation and oversight, and hopefully we will get it. Also, as far as the “no government” mantra, just wait until you need help and we’ll see if you still mouth the “no government” mantra. I would bet not.

  • http://cestuncoupdebelette.wordpress.com/ La Belette lachinoise

    Tax credits are NO GOOD for people who have no revenues (unless they are refundable. It’s something you substract from your tax payable. Tax season is only April 15, 2 months away at the very least. Ineffective. I don’t understand how the GOP wanted all that military spending, yet wanted to pay no taxes? Where was the money supposed to come from?

  • http://cestuncoupdebelette.wordpress.com/ La Belette lachinoise

    The GOP is always asking for more cops, more border patrol, more prisons, more military purchases (pork!!!), etc. If there is no demonstrated need (business case!!!) for them, it’s a wasteful expense just like any wasteful expense. The GOP spends money needlessly because their voter base include some paranoids.

  • retired2001

    rodbuilder321 says “Why don’t you give $75,000 tax-free to everyone making under $100,000 a year? The cost of that would be under $20 billion….”.

    Over the past year I have seen similar statements with different thousands of dollars. What number is rodbuilder using to represent the people earning under $100,000 a year? If you divide rodbuilders “cost would be under $20 billion…” by his $75,000 figure, that would only go to 266,666 citizens, that is only slightly more than 8 percent of the citizens. I have to believe that more than 8 percent of the population make less than $100,000.

    The problem with these statements I have seen is that the posters may have a math problem. I have seen many other statements in the recent past where the figures represented giving the stimulus to all citizens. The population of the U.S. in 2008 was approximately 304,000,000 and a simple calculation is that even if you only gave each person $10,000, the resulting figure would be 3,040,000,000,000 that is 3 TRILLION, 40 BILLION. If you divide $787,000,000,000 by 304,000,000, the resulting figure is only $2,588.81 for each citizen. If each citizen was given $75,000 the resulting figure is $22,800,000,000,000 or 22 TRILLION, 800 BILLION dollars.
    Use your calculators before posting..

  • derykhouston

    Why should Iran not be allowed to have control of it’s complete fuel cycle for “civilian” nuclear power if it agrees to full inspections and agrees not to build a nuclear bomb?
    It seems unfair that the Iranian people should face severe economic hardships and loss of educational opportunities among so many other things simply because they want what the rest of the world is entitled to. Where is the evidence that they want to build a bomb? Surely inspections would prevent that. And if you claim that it wouldn’t…then what would stop them anyway?
    My question is: Would you allow Iran to have control of it’s full fuel cycle for nuclear power only? And why should Iran be expected to have it’s fuel supplied by Russia and always be at the mercy of another country for such a vital supply of fuel when no other western power would allow it’self to be in that position?

  • vickerydk

    re 55sstl Exactly why should I help absorb the cost of 1000′s of mortgages when borrowers bought more than they could afford and then kept on spending? They have big houses, new cars, go on nice vacations, and owe to the max on every credit card they have. Young or middle aged, it doesn’t seem to matter. I don’t want to bail anybody out that can’t pass a simple IQ test. I’m getting sick of band aids being applied to critical wounds all because somebody doesn’t want to be responsible for their own ‘blame anybody but me’ mentality. I stoo in line behind a young woman at a department store the other day and her credit card was rejected for her attempt to purchase about $80.00 worth of clothing. Her comment to the clerk was priceless, “But I just paid $50 on my bill the other day.” I wanted to politely ask her when/how she intended to pay off the entire bill but I didn’t have the stomach for a ‘it can’t be my fault’ speech.

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