Kirsten Gillibrand

The six-week drama came to an end this afternoon. New York’s new Senator made her debut today with a joke about how unknown she is. It was a wry reference to the far more famous names, including Caroline Kennedy and Andrew Cuomo, who had been in the running for the job. But there is one group of people who know Gillibrand well — the veterans of the 2000 campaign in which Hillary Clinton won that seat.

Hillary Clinton adviser Ann Lewis tells me that in 1999, Gillibrand, then a young lawyer, literally “wandered in off the street” into the campaign’s windowless headquarters on Herald Square: “She just came in and said, ‘How can I help?’” The campaign quickly discovered that Gillibrand was, in Lewis’ words, “a natural organizer,” and put her to work marshaling young women for Clinton. Many of them later became part of Gillibrand’s own political network. Occasionally, Lewis recalls, Gillibrand would mention that her real dream was to move back home to Upstate New York and run for Congress.

Those upstate roots are deep. It turns out that Gillibrand has an interesting political pedigree of her own. Her father is Doug Rutnik, a well-known Republican* lobbyist in Albany. (That probably explains the presence of former GOP Senator Alfonse D’Amato over her shoulder at the announcement news conference.) And her grandmother Polly Noonan–whom Gillibrand cites as her inspiration–was a powerful political player at a time that few other women were. Noonan founded the Albany Democratic Women’s Club and was an important figure in the Mayor Erastus Corning‘s legendary machine there.

Gillibrand proved her own political skills in 2006, when she beat heavily favored four-term incumbent John Sweeney in a Hudson Valley district that leans GOP. (It was one of only six New York congressional districts to vote for George W. Bush in 2000, and one of only nine to do it in 2004.) Her conservative centrist voting record–key to a Democrat surviving in that district–makes some Democrats uncomfortable with Governor David Paterson’s decision to pick her.

Or particular concern to liberals is Gillibrand’s strong support for gun rights; she has a 100% voting record score with the National Rifle Association. Indeed, New York Congresswoman Carolyn McCarthy, an ardent gun control advocate, has declared the pick unacceptable and indicated that she may run against Gillibrand when the Senate seat is put to a special election in 2010. It was notable that, in her speech today, Gillibrand lauded McCarthy and promised to work with her on McCarthy’s legislation that would impose stronger background checks on gun purchasers.

Whoever wins the 2010 special election will again be on the ballot in 2012, when the Senate term that Hillary Clinton won in 2006 ends. She may need to raise as much as $100 million to run two races in four years. Gillibrand is going to need every bit of those political skills that so impressed the Clinton veterans.

CORRECTION: Room Eight, the New York political blog, points out that Mr. Rutnik is in fact a registered Democrat, though he is known for ties to powerful Republicans, including to former Governor George Pataki and former Senator Al D’Amato.

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    Maybe Hildebrand can go get some “Drunken Negro Cookies” before she leaves for Washington.

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    D’Amato looked like he slept there and woke up in the middle of a press conference.

  • yoshiattack

    Gillibrand seems to be the right choice. FINALLY we get some indication from the far East Coast that Western New York, where I live, actually exists.

  • sqr1

    In fairness to Paterson, who seems to be getting beaten up over the “six-week drama,” he always said that he wouldn’t name anyone until Hillary resigned after she was confirmed.
    .
    Now, I certainly understand the desire to speculate over the pick, but I keep reading nonsense about how he was dragging the process out.
    .
    Look, nobody wanted the embarrassment of being named Senator and then having it all fall apart if Hillary’s appointment fell through. Paterson had to wait.

  • http://smoothlikeremy.blogspot.com/ sgwhiteinfla

    yoshia
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    There is some pushback from the anti gun folks though. That might be huge come 2010

  • Joe Bftsplk

    I haven’t found anything that says what becomes of Gillibrand’s congressional seat. Anyone here know?

  • http://www.inworldstudios.com jayackroyd

    Hah. I called it.

  • http://www.inworldstudios.com jayackroyd

    sgw–
    .
    I do expect there will be a primary in 2010.

  • http://www.inworldstudios.com jayackroyd

    Poking around Joe B, I’d say it’s up to Paterson to appoint a replacement.But that’s not from what I’d regard as an authoritative source.

  • stuartzechman

    Or particular concern to liberals is Gillibrand’s strong support for gun rights; she has a 100% voting record score with the National Rifle Association.
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    KT:
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    Ummm…”liberals” and “gun control advocates” are not the same thing anymore. Not in the slightest.
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    Howard Dean is a strong 2nd amendment supporter (Endorsed by NRA eight times as VT governor!).
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    Other important liberals that aren’t gun control advocates include the Great Orange Satan Markos, who makes this point better than I in “Crashing the Gate”:
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    …Rural Democrats all across the nation are still suffering the legacy of the now near-dead gun control groups, efforts that allowed the Republican noise machine to score striking propaganda victories at the expense of Democrats. A whole generation of libertarian-minded gun owners became solid Republicans to protect their prized weapons from Democratic efforts to pry them fro their cold, dead fingers–the curse of the single-issue group at work. And Democrat like Schweitzer, Virginia governor Mark Warner, and DNC chairman Howard Dean all worked to reassure voters that Democrats had no design on taking away their guns.
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    Crashing the Gate, by Jerome Armstrong and Markos Moulitsas Zuniga (pages 67 – Progressive Partner Special Limited Edition)

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    The old orthodoxy with respect to the Second Amendment is largely a thing of the past –liberalism definitely does not equate with gun control advocacy in today’s political world.
    .
    It’s not 1984, KT.

  • Karen Tumulty

    SZ: It’s not 1984? Does that mean I’m middle-aged? Where did the time go?

  • Karen Tumulty

    jayack and joeb: think there would be a special election, but i’m not an authoritative source, either.

  • stuartzechman

    KT:
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    I have (ahem) neither said nor implied the least bit of knowledge concerning that which remains, as it should, shrouded in perpetual feminine mystery: the lady’s true birth date.
    .
    I, on the other hand, must contemplate the possibility of middle-agedness, now that you’ve pointed out its possibility…(sigh)
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    You deserve many fresh bouquets for revealing my potential incivility, KT. Thank you for your continued patience and understanding…

  • http://www.inworldstudios.com jayackroyd

    The constitution says the legislature decides how to fill vacancies. So it’s statutory, and I haven’t found the statute, or an unambiguous statement that Paterson appoints.
    .
    On stuart and guns, there’s even some Shooting Liberally chapters, part of the Living Liberally umbrella of organizations. Liberals get together on gun ranges.
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    I think the party difference is that liberal hunters in Wisconsin don’t mind that people in urban areas prefer to see gun ownership restricted, while people Dick Cheney shoots in the face would like to see everybody equipped to shoot someone in the face, if they want.

  • Joe Bftsplk

    Thanks, Jay & KT! Maybe I’ll be able to cling to life a while longer without being certain…

  • Karen Tumulty

    SZ:
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    Speaking of which, I spotted this on (the non-AMC) Wonkette the other day:
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    Saw Olbermann’s bff Chris Cillizza of the Washington Post standing around outside of the MSNBC makeup trailer on the national mall tonight. Also, Karen Tumulty (I think it was her, at least) at Constitution Ave and 9th street NW. She definitely looked like she has had some facial (!!!!) injections as she looked much younger than on the teevee. ALSO, MSNBC appears to be broadcasting in a studio surrounded by bullet proof glass.
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    I sent them the following email:
    .
    UPDATE: Karen Tumulty herself writes to clarify! “Don’t think this was me,” she says, “But now you have me all paranoid about how old I must be looking on TV.”

  • http://www.inworldstudios.com jayackroyd

    WaPo-
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    Gillibrand’s appointment will set off a special election to fill her GOP-leaning House seat.

  • http://www.inworldstudios.com jayackroyd

    Karen Tumulty herself writes to clarify! “Don’t think this was me,” she says, “But now you have me all paranoid about how old I must be looking on TV.”
    .
    I thought teevee was supposed to make you look fat.

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    jayack: it does that, too. so does my mirror.

  • http://www.inworldstudios.com jayackroyd

    Yeah, I’m still 25 years old, and running 6 minute miles, from the inside.

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  • stuartzechman

    Also, Karen Tumulty (I think it was her, at least) at Constitution Ave and 9th street NW. She definitely looked like she has had some facial (!!!!) injections as she looked much younger than on the teevee.
    .
    Wow. Yikes.
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    Looks like somebody’s taking their column-istic cues from that psychotic Maureen Dowd.
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    I’m sorry…

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    Just remember. The only thing worse than getting old is not getting old.

  • Karen Tumulty

    SZ:

    it’s better, i guess, than when the freepers did that separated-at-birth thing with me and john kerry.

  • Cliff

    running 6 minute miles
    .
    Damn, dude! I can maybe pull a 7.5 minute mile, but then I’d have to go cry for a while.

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  • Cliff

    Does Boehner even realize what his last name looks like?

  • stuartzechman

    …when the freepers did that separated-at-birth thing with me and john kerry…
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    Speaking of lunatics…

  • stuartzechman

    There are two reasons why I’m not upset that the superbly qualified Carolyn Maloney wasn’t selected:
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    1) We’ve already got Schumer (supposedly) representing Manhattan’s interests, and it’s reasonable and fair for the upstate folks to have somebody there who is their representative
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    2) It’s not Kennedy or Cuomo or anybody who represents dynastic politics
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    That said, if the Dems lose Kirsten’s House seat, Paterson is an idiot for not choosing Carolyn Maloney, whose Manhattan seat would undoubtedly be replaced with another Democrat.

  • http://www.inworldstudios.com jayackroyd

    Damn, dude! I can maybe pull a 7.5 minute mile, but then I’d have to go cry for a while
    .
    One of my life’s regrets is that there was a time when I could, I believe, have run a 5 minute mile, but I never ran a timed mile, then. Running shorter distances at meets. The six minute mile was a fluke, actually. A grad school roommate who had run cross-country in college doubted me when I said I could do that. I hadn’t been running much, pick up basketball was my main form of exercise at the time. But how hard could 4 90 second quarters be?
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    Harder than I thought, as it turned out.

  • http://www.inworldstudios.com jayackroyd

    I’m really hoping Maloney will primary Gillibrand. She’d be a better Senator.

  • davemc321

    Stuart & KT, you’re breaking my heart. I’ve sailed past the reefs of middle age and am headed for the shoals of elderdom.
    .
    Remember: Inside every 60-year-old man is a 25-year-old wondering what the hell happened.

  • FlownOver

    “When vacancies happen in the Representation from any State, the Executive Authority thereof shall issue Writs of Election to fill such Vacancies.” — Article I, Section 2, Clause 4 of the U.S. Constitution
    .
    I’m guessing that’s fairly authoritative. No appointments. Special elections only.

  • FlownOver

    Jayack –
    Gonna stick with “primary” as a verb, are you? Yeesh. There are certain usages up with which I shall not put.

  • http://www.inworldstudios.com jayackroyd

    I’m usually that kind of grammarian. But I find that usage funny.

  • http://www.inworldstudios.com jayackroyd

    For example, I will not use reference as a verb. “Refer to” works just fine.

  • stuartzechman

    davemc321:
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    It’s really fantastic to have you as a member of the Commentariat; I look forward to becoming more familiar with your particular, profession-oriented perspective.

  • stuartzechman

    You guys are nuts:
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    “Primary” is indeed a verb.
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    “Reference” is also such.
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    I try as hard as I can not to end my sentences with prepositions, but I draw the line at prohibitions against these two increasingly valuable verbs.
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    Nuts!

  • http://nicewhitelady.blogspot.com/ joyomama

    Ack! Chris Matthews just opined that Gillibrand was “un-New York-y”, pulling a true Palin of the “real America” kind. Folks from upstate don’t cotton to that kind of talk.

  • stuartzechman

    Chris Matthews is a circus clown.

  • stuartzechman

    I really should say that Chris Matthews is a nightly reminder that the Beltway political journalism establishment is the farthest thing from a meritocracy there can be, aside from perhaps the Saudi Royal Family.

  • http://nicewhitelady.blogspot.com/ joyomama

    Please don’t insult the hard-working circus clowns out there.

  • http://nicewhitelady.blogspot.com/ joyomama

    That’s better!

  • rose83

    Youth is indeed wasted on the young. But even though the world is collapsing around us and I’m worried about student loan debt, I’m glad I wasn’t young in 1984 for two reasons: Disco and those clothes.
    .
    KT/Master/K-Tum, the John Kerry thing is crazy. And Hillary Swank is definitely hot.
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    jayackroyd, maybe I should time my 400 or 800 meters…
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    I’m okay with reference, but I wouldn’t use primary.

  • textee

    Karen Tumulty asserts that Gillibrand has a “conservative voting record”. Hahahahaha. Gillibrand holds a paltry 8.00 voting record ranking from the American Conservative Union, which is only slightly better than the 6.34 lifetime voting record ranking of Vermont socialist Bernie Sanders. http://www.acuratings.org/2007all.htm Evidently, Time magazine would label the socialist Sanders’ voting record as “conservative”.

  • stuartzechman

    In which I agree with textee:
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    Gillibrand does not, in fact have a “conservative voting record”, at least not as defined by current American political ideology.
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    The Time piece to which Karen Tumulty links tells us (with no linking reference to Gillibrand’s quote about herself –idiots):

    Twice voted against the $700 billion TARP bailout bill and was the only Representative from New York to vote for the May 2007 funding bill for the Iraq War. She has described her Congressional voting record as “one of the most conservative in the state.”

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    Her record is certainly more conservative than, say, the superbly qualified Carolyn Maloney, but she is quite properly considered a Centrist on most matters. This is, of course, why she’s a favorite of the Clintons, and why the editors at the New York Times (properly, for once) saw fit to entitle this piece “Gillibrand Is a Centrist With a Tenacious Style “.

  • Karen Tumulty

    okay, i’ll switch it to centrist.

  • Karen Tumulty

    textee rules my world.

  • Aaron

    I think I see the confusion here.
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    Based on her voting history in the 110th Congress, Kirsten Gillibrand is roughly in the center of the entire U.S. Congress (241st most liberal over the term out of 447 members) and in the right 10% of the Democratic Caucus (18th most conservative over the term out of 241 members).
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    She’s also the most conservative Democratic U.S. Representative from New York, but not as conservative as any of the Republicans. (Ah, take a look at <a href="the political distribution yourselves and make up your own minds.)

  • stuartzechman

    Of course it’s your call, KT, but I’d think that it would be perhaps more accurate.
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    I haven’t done the hard work of actually looking up her entire record, myself, actually, but from the bullet points I’ve seen selected, and from her reported political champions, it appears as if it may be the case that she is a centrist, not a liberal nor a conservative.
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    Centrism is a quite clearly defined set of ideological principles, and should not be confused with “moderate”, which merely means “not radical”.
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    Centrists tend to confuse the issue, however, by pompously (and inaccurately) identifying themselves as “not ideological” or “pragmatic” –until conservatives point at them and yell “You’re a liberal!“, at which point they usually betray their centrism by running away from the DFH label in disgust and fear, and pointing at other Democrats whilst mewling back “Look! That’s the liberal you’re talking about! Not I!“.
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    Thanks again for considering the edit, KT.

  • sacredh

    KT, regarding who rules your world…are you searching for a new one? Don’t give up. In the multiverse, all worlds are possible.

  • Mr. Nice Guy

    Damn, dude! I can maybe pull a 7.5 minute mile, but then I’d have to go cry for a while.

    Not to brag – too much, anyway – but at 42, I can still rattle off a couple of 6-ers. Every Tuesday, in fact, per my schedule. Almost immediately afterward, I fight the urge to puke. That treadmill indicator change from “x.99″ to “(x+1).00″ can’t happen fast enough.

  • sacredh

    I only run when chased.

  • Mr. Nice Guy

    @yoshi: FINALLY we get some indication from the far East Coast that Western New York, where I live, actually exists.

    How does Gillibrand’s selection have anything to do with WNY? She’s not even near Binghamton, let alone Jamestown.

  • stuartzechman

    I urge fellow liberals to read and consider Chris Bowers’ take on the selection of Gillibrand entitled “Giving Gillibrand a Chance”.
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    I am going to write something that might sound a little bit off character: I am willing to give Bush Dog, and apparently soon to be New York Senator, Kirsten Gillibrand a chance during her time in the Senate. In practice, what this means is that while I will be interested in looking at primary challenges she receives in 2010, and while I am wary of her past performance, the defeat of the working conservative majority and the newly arrived Democratic trifecta does appear to have altered the congressional playing field. It now seems likely new alliances can be formed for progressives, and no approach to passing progressive legislation, or stopping bad legislation, should be dismissed out of hand.
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    Case in point: the Wall Street bailout, otherwise known as TARP. Gillibrand voted against it back in October, then she voted in favor of the auto bailout in December, then voted in favor of Barney Frank’s oversight bill on Wednesday, and then voted against the release of the second half of the funds yesterday. This makes Gillibrand one of about only 40-50 26 House Democrats who would have voted the same way I would have voted across all four of those bills…

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    http://www.openleft.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=11083

  • FlownOver

    KT:

    Nice job on WWIR, as usual.

  • http://www.inworldstudios.com jayackroyd

    Rose–
    400 meters
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    Yeah, rub it in. I come from the non-metric era.

  • kathy

    A primary would be interesting between Gillibrand and McCarthy. I couldn’t help thinking last night as I was watching McCarthy on Matthews how dour and unappealing she looked. I would like these things not to matter, but they do. Voters are tired of being scolded, whether by liberals or conservatives. Gillibrand has a remarkably sunny visage, and that will count.
    .
    Also agree with Stuart re: Howard Dean, who was embraced by the liberals during his primary, was accused of being a liberal by the national media, is sort of liberal on social values, but has always been a centrist pragmatist – and was indeed supported by the NRA. I hope progressives/liberals/Democrats can avoid labeling Gillibrand too finely until we see how she votes for her more liberal constituency. It’s a good sign that she gave so much of herself to electing Hillary, and fitting that she’s gotten Hillary’s seat.

  • kathy

    Oh, and KT – nice job on WWIR, and I was thinking how young you looked. just saying.

  • davemc321

    Why, thank you stuart for the kind words. I can’t promise I’ll have much definitive to say about my former profession – I was pretty low on the pecking order. But I can be as opinionated as anyone.
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    Question: Is textee always this funny?

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