Where’s Howard Dean?

It’s a curious oversight on the part of Obamaland, and maybe more than that. Jonathan Martin notes the absence of the outgoing DNC Chairman at yesterday’s news conference announcing Tim Kaine as Dean’s replacement:

The obligatory praise did little to placate Dean loyalists, and the mention of Emanuel, who Dean famously clashed with when Democrats took back Congress in 2006, felt like a gratuitous slap to some.

But Dean likely didn’t see the event. Instead of basking in accolades from the president-elect and his own successor in person, the chairman was in American Samoa, completing his effort to visit every state and territorial Democratic party.

It’s a trip, his backers say, he would have gladly rescheduled to have been present for the Kaine announcement. It’s hardly the victory lap his allies expected—and many of them see it as the final sign of disrespect from Obama forces.

“It’s the most puzzling thing I’ve ever seen in my life,” added a longtime Democrat and friend of Dean, echoing the exasperation and befuddlement many close to him feel about his treatment since the election. “I have tried my best through [Obama advisers] Valerie Jarrett, David Axelrod and David Plouffe to ask if he ever committed some crime. I don’t get it. He’s been a good soldier.”

A third Dean ally likened the outgoing chairman to two other high-profile Democrats who would seem to have given Obamaland more heartburn in the recent past.

“If we can forgive Joe Lieberman for actively campaigning against Obama, this seems crazy to me. And Hillary Clinton did ok and lots of her people are getting plum assignments,” noted the ally. “I really think he has rehabilitated himself. He showed he can be team player. It just seems so odd and I don’t know what the reasons are.”

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  • http://derekg.wordpress.com/ Derek

    Liberals are only welcome when it is time to raise money and get votes. Other than that the party is run by gutless moderates, who prefer to play kissy face with right-wing extremists, rather than following up on all the promises they made to get elected.

  • lynnanne

    I actually don’t think Dean is really any more “liberal” than Obama. He was against the Iraq war, and proclaimed it loudly — that was main thing. As a former Deaniac (and a fervent Obama supporter), this freeze-out has been bothering me; I just don’t get it at all. Dean did a great job as DNC head, in my view. I know he doesn’t get along with Rahm Emanuel (for whatever reason), but I don’t understand why Obama appears to be giving him the cold shoulder.

  • Andy from MA

    KT — No surprise here. This is exactly what I expected. Ingratitude from the Democratic party establishment.

  • Matt

    Dean wanted a cabinet post in the new administration – or at the very least some genuine appreciation for setting the table for Obama’s big win. Take away Dean’s 50-state strategy and you have a much tougher road for Obama in the election.

    http://www.political-buzz.com/

  • http://pourmecoffee.blogspot.com pourmecoffee

    Here you go, Howard. Now, let’s move on.

  • Andy from MA

    Coffee: I think the “star” treatment is only reserved for those who walk on water. “One Attaboy!” is what the establishment feels Howard deserves.

  • Paul-no not that one

    Outside of maybe the Shinseki nomination (and I think I am stretching to give him that) has BHO skipped a chance to kick the left in the teeth?

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    The Politico story is sourced to “Dean loyalists” and one “Dean ally”
    Why aren’t these people being named and what are they trying to accomplish by speaking anonymously to Jonathan Martin? Until we’re told the answers to these questions, I’m going to attribute this to journalistic pot-stirring and assign it absolutly zero significance.

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    And who’s talked to Dean before publishing gossip-rag material?

  • plukasiak

    Obama is a creature of the Village — Dean never was, and it was his 50 State strategy that made him persona non grata for Emmanuel and the rest of the corrupt Democratic establishment.
    _
    Keep in mind that the political media is concentrated in DC, and Dean’s strategy was all about returning power, money, and influence to state and local party organizations. And since KT and her “political reporter” ilk need the DC establishment for their sources, influence peddlers like Rahm and Schumer received far more favorable media treatment than did Dean.
    _
    But ultimately, Dean really has no one but himself to blame for this — he threw his private support behind Obama in a manner that guaranteed Obama the nomination, and did so to advance his own agenda . Dean wanted to piggyback his 50 State Strategy on Obama’s grassroots organization, and fell out of favor because he wanted to continue to empower state and local party organizations, while Obama wants to centralize power in his hands and use the Democratic Party for his own personal benefit and self-aggrandizement. Dean found out too late that Obama’s organizational efforts were designed to advance only one thing — Barack Obama’s personal power.
    _
    So instead of genuine grass-roots organizing, and listening to what Democrats across the country have to say, we now have the astroturf of Change.gov, in which Obama sets the agenda for the grassroots, ignores their concerns when they conflict with his personal empowerment agenda, and co-opts grassroots concerns when they can be folded into the overall strategy of Obama self-aggrandizement.

  • sevenoaks07

    PD @ 8 and 9: Agreed. But it is striking that we have seen no “event” at which Obama said a formal thank you to Dean with a photo-op, etc. Dean is a prickly character; and he may have got feathers ruffled in the Village but he did aa great job and I expected him to have been given some recognition by now. I guess the unnamed sources may not want to be exposed to friendly fire.

  • Karen Tumulty

    PD: They talked to Dean’s brother:

    “If he had been asked to go to that event, he would have been there,” Jim Dean, the chairman’s brother, noted twice in an interview.

  • Karen Tumulty

    More from Jim Dean:
    .
    Jim Dean said the past scrapes with Emanuel may be partly to blame, but, like some others close to the chairman, he was mostly mystified at the treatment.
    .
    “I get grumpy about it,” Dean said. “In fact, I was grumpy about it over Thanksgiving and Howard pushed back and said, ‘Look, they’re not going do everything for everybody.’”

    Also, Trippi:
    .

    He was never afraid to challenge the way party establishment in Washington did business and that doesn’t win you friends in either party,” Trippi said by way of explaining the friction.

    Getting closer to the point, Trippi added: “You don’t have to look any further than Rahm Emanuel.”
    .
    To tell you the truth, I’m surprised ANYONE went on the record, given the fact that these are Democrats and the Obama folks now operate the party machinery in DC.

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    @KT,
    Maybe you could do some follow up. You clearly thoght the story was significant eneough to link to. I have my doubts but I also seem to have knee-jerk reaction to anti-Obama news. I’d be interested in hearing what Dean himself has to say.

  • Paul-no not that one

    “I’m surprised ANYONE went on the record, given the fact that these are Democrats and the Obama folks now operate the party machinery in DC.”
    .
    Really this surprises you? The Democrats, for good or bad, have never had the republican, um, German-like discipline.

  • Dee in Columbia MD

    politics ain’t bean bag

  • Karen Tumulty

    I would be shocked if Dean had anything to say beyond what he said to his brother. It is not in his interest to look like a crybaby, and he’s also more magnanimous, I think, than people give him credit for being. I’m still on vacation, now down in Texas, but will make some calls when I get back.

  • wvng

    Derek: Liberals are only welcome when it is time to raise money and get votes. Other than that the party is run by gutless moderates, who prefer to play kissy face with right-wing extremists, rather than following up on all the promises they made to get elected.
    .
    I’ve seen zero evidence that Obama isn’t following up on the promises he made to get elected, including working to make us one nation by including Repugs in the decision making process. That said, they are repugs (=right-wing extremists) after all, who don’t have a record of actions that serve more than their own power and ideology. As John Cole said:
    .
    Maybe the Republicans will pull their heads out of their collective asses and decide that in the wake of the DOW dropping 80,000 points and massive unemployment and five quarters of negative growth there is something more important than capital gains tax cuts, Elian Gonzalez, Terri Schiavo, and the fairness doctrine, and join in the debate and act for once in good faith and with the best interests of the country in mind. A man can hope.
    .
    I think we will learn a great deal this week about how Obama will work with his own caucus, as Dem senators push back against the nonsensical concessions to Repug ideology needed to bring them to the table.
    .
    Harkin and Conrad want to see changes to the infrastructure investments. Kerry wants to alter the employment tax credits. Other Democratic senators expressed other competing concerns to transition team officials.
    .
    And that’s fine. David Axelrod told the NYT, "Obviously, it’s a big answer to a big problem and there are a lot of component parts to it. These folks are not potted plants. They’re elected officials, and they’re doing their jobs."

  • Andy from MA

    KT, isn’t this really “inside the beltway” stuff? Outside of the media, who love to foment these so called moments of tension, and those hardcore Deaniacs and non-Deaniacs, isn’t this much ado about nothing?
    .
    This isn’t exactly Harry Truman carrying his own bags to Union Station after inauguration day?

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    @KT,
    You’ve made my point. Dean, if contacted would be magnanimous and supportive and would hence cut the legs out from under the story.

  • FlownOver

    Dee –
    Apparently it’s more like junior high.

  • Karen Tumulty

    PD: I don’t think that would cut the legs out of the story at all. If Dean is magnanimous in public, it doesn’t mean that he–or, just as importantly, the people he has worked with, who continue be important to the party–feel that way in private.
    .
    Nor does it excuse the Obama Team for refusing to make a small gesture that wouldn’t have cost them a penny. It is a telling story. I just don’t know precisely what it is telling us. Is this Rahm not letting go of old grievances? A signal that Obama’s folks want to take the party in a different strategic and tactical direction?

  • Paul-no not that one

    Is this about Howard Dean or BHO’s treatment of Dean? I’m not surprised in the least that Dean is on the high road.

  • Karen Tumulty

    PD:
    .
    Or maybe someone just screwed up? It’s been known to happen, too.
    .
    I’m not saying this is the biggest story ever, but it seemed interesting enough to be worth a blog post.

  • Paul-no not that one

    “A signal that Obama’s folks want to take the party in a different strategic and tactical direction?”
    .
    Yeah all that winning elections stuff is old. Lets get back to the old ways, which I’m guessing is what Tim Kaine has been brought on for.
    And then be shocked that you couldn’t do business with the republicans.

  • Andy from MA

    @ Dee and FlownOver:
    Rick Barton, former Chair of the Maine Democratic Party made a speech in 1991, at the party Jefferson-Jackson dinner. Present were previous party chairs including one Senator George Mitchell as well as the state committee and elected official
    .
    Half joking half serious Barton said, “I always wondered how my experience as Chair of the party would help me in my futre life. It wasn’t until I became the father of a two year old that I was able to benefit from that experience.”
    .
    While I laughed out loud, his comments went over the heads of most of the audience.
    .
    FlownOver you don’t know how right you are.

  • sevenoaks07

    Really KT: ” someone screwing up?” Dean was not some middle level functionary. That he was not present at the installation of the new Chairman is of note. It involves a sense of decency. Of course Dean will play this down. But it says something about what Washington water does to one. Anyway enjoy the rest of your break.

  • wvng

    Andy #26. Thank you for that. ROTFLMAO.
    .
    Senators are, after all, Delicate Snowflakes.

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    A signal that Obama’s folks want to take the party in a different strategic and tactical direction?

    So I suppose that rather than kvetching about a gossipy blog post, I should be asking who Tim Kaine is and what strategy is he likely to bring to the DNC.

  • Paul-no not that one

    Tim Kaine is DLC. That ought to give one an idea of the strategy he will bring.

  • Karen Tumulty

    PD: I don’t think this is “gossipy” at all. It was either a screwup or a signal. Also, the chairman — at least when you have one who is of the same party as the President — is not really a strategist.
    .
    The other interesting thing here is that Plouffe is staying out of both the White House and the DNC, so that he can continue and grow Obama’s own political operation. What does that mean? Is this the development of a whole separate party machinery? And what does that say about the role of the DNC? Who gets the resources, when it comes right down to it?
    .
    Interesting questions, don’t you think?

  • rose83

    Outside of maybe the Shinseki nomination (and I think I am stretching to give him that) has BHO skipped a chance to kick the left in the teeth?

    P-NNTO, without even thinking more than 30 seconds Orszag at the OMB and Johnsen at the Office of Legal Counsel were both great progressive choices.

    So… can I get away with not being surprised that you’re unhappy with Obama? I won’t call you a troll, but yeah, not being surprised is doable. And yes, I will absolutely remind you about this next time you accuse me of being a concern troll/overly cynical/reveler in Democratic troubles.

  • http://smoothlikeremy.blogspot.com/ sgwhiteinfla

    On topic
    .
    We are going to look for meaning in everything Obama does or doesn’t do but we really don’t know any of the back story. How close was Obama to Dean? Did they ever have beef themselves? No matter what the reasons for not inviting Dean I really believe Obama needs to make a public acknowledgement of the flub and apologize much like they did for Difi. This if nothing else was a major political diss and Obama is doing enough now to piss off his grass roots supporters that at some point he really will start losing support. Most of the grass rooters think Dean was a sort of Oracle with his 50 state strategy and the results speak for themselves. I actually hope Dean DOES come out and at least say he would have been there if asked and put the ball in Obama’s court because he just can’t keep pulling this kind of sh!t to people who most supported him while forgiving folks like Lieberman and expect it to all blow over. He says he reads his bad press well he needs to read some bad ink over this one.
    .
    Off topic
    .
    I am sitting here watching the House of Reps speaking on a resolution to stand with Israel. Its totally blowing my mind how much utter bullsh!t is being spouted by members on both of the aisle. They all talk about their trips to Israel but I guess none of them took the time to cross the border and talk to the Palestinians. I already posted the Army War College report that directly refutes most of what these ass hats are saying about who started what and when and then you have the oped yesterday from President Carter who actually was a participant in the cease fire negotiations last year. But still people are acting like they can sell the dream that Israel is just defending itself. Ironically enough Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich the people the MSM folks paint as wacky are the prescient ones who are getting up and speaking truth to power on the floor of the House. I am thoroughly disgusted at the Dems who are getting up and perpetrating this fraud on the American people.

  • http://pourmecoffee.blogspot.com pourmecoffee

    It was either a screwup or a signal.

    It may have been a screwup and a diss, but a “signal?” Signal? What does that even mean? It’s one of those jargon phrases that doesn’t even make any sense. Obama has picked Kaine, and together they will signal their direction by charting it. “Signal” implies intentional communication. Who really thinks that Obama or his team intentionally disinvited Dean as a coded message to someone that something is coming? To who? What? He’s got Kaine in there and they’ll lead. He’s not foreshadowing electoral strategy through announcement invitations. If political junkies can’t even figure out what the hell the “signal” could possibly be, that’s probably a good sign it wasn’t a signal.

  • http://www.inworldstudios.com jayackroyd

    Andy,
    .
    I think pluk is right about this, that Obama is recentralizing the party. He’s very close to Kaine, from what I’ve read. And he did not use the existing grass roots organizations. He made up a new one.
    .
    But i can’t think of president who didn’t consolidate power. Intiatives like Dean’s are opposition projects.
    .
    What’s bothering me is this “bipartisan” blather. There needs to be some kind of reality acceptance test in order to get a seat at the table.

  • http://smoothlikeremy.blogspot.com/ sgwhiteinfla

    BTW
    .
    Re Tim Kaine
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    pro life
    .
    anti stem cell research
    .
    blue dog
    .
    other than that he is standard fare
    .
    http://www.ontheissues.org/Tim_Kaine.htm

  • Karen Tumulty

    PMC:

    Okay, here’s why this caught my attention. Obama picked as his WH chief of staff a guy who fought bitterly and publicly with Dean over the 50-state strategy. This comes after Obama runs a campaign that looks very much like Dean’s 50-state strategy, but with lots more resources. Meanwhile, the guy who ran Obama’s campaign decides to stay out of both the White House and the existing party machinery. I’m just saying it is interesting. Do I know precisely what the game plan is? No. Am I likely to any time soon? No. Is it in their interest to tell me? Triple no. So, as a political reporter, I am watching “signals.” I’m not dissing anyone here; I’m trying to discern what the shape of politics will be in the next four to eight years.

  • Karen Tumulty

    SGW:

    I don’t think his positions on the issues are likely to matter much, quite frankly. The party chairman, when he is working for a President of his own party who is going to be on the ballot in four years, is generally measured by how well he can raise money and stay out of the headlines. He usually doesn’t get to chart strategy.

  • Andy from MA

    KT — You sound almost Rumsfeldian with all those questions ;) .

  • Paul-no not that one

    Rose, thank you for your thoughtful response to my question.

  • postxian

    Can we talk about health care policy?

  • http://pourmecoffee.blogspot.com pourmecoffee

    KT – I’m interested in that story, too. I think Dean got dissed, too – although I don’t care. I just don’t think there is a signal being sent. More importantly, I really dislike the signal-sending prominence. Warren to speak. SIGNAL! Food fight! Wright to speak 90 miles away. SIGNAL! Food fight! Blair House full. SIGNAL! Food fight! There are enough real signals being sent to argue about without reading meaning into a vacuum. When the DLC story develops, it’ll be there. That’s just my view.

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    My post got eated so here it is again:
    .
    Gossipy doesn’t mean unimportant. But guessing who’s dissing whom, who’s consolidating power, who’s alliances are being strengthened and who’s are crumbling all based on who did or didn’t get invited to an event is a pretty good working defenition of gossip.
    .
    I’m reminded of back when we used to try to draw entire models of the Soviet power structure based on who sat where during the Mayday parade.

  • http://smoothlikeremy.blogspot.com/ sgwhiteinfla

    KT
    .
    I don’t know if thats the perception a lot of people are getting. There were definitely some over the top reactions to him being named DNC chair from some liberal/progressive sites. I happen to agree with you that he won’t matter that much but with Rahm being DLC and now Kaine basically being a blue dog people are starting to talk.

  • g_crush

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    lynnanne: Dean did a great job as DNC head, in my view. I know he doesn’t get along with Rahm Emanuel (for whatever reason)…
    .
    Dean and Emanuel, as leaders of the Democratic National Committee and Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, respectively, butted heads in 2006 over campaign strategy. And that’s putting it mildly:

    More than a month after a strategy meeting between Emanuel and Dean ended in an explosive dispute, the two men have not spoken directly. And Emanuel said he is beginning to doubt whether the party’s nuts-and-bolts operation will be ready to compete with Republicans in key districts. (snip)

    At the party’s new headquarters, the friction is so palpable that during a recent fire drill staffers worried that Dean and Emanuel might bump into each other on the curb.

    More detail at the link, ‘tho the author’s prediction of the GOP “beating the spread” in 2006 was off…Funny thing is that, ulimately, Dean’s strategy proved valid, and Emanuel was, well, proved wrong. You can’t believe that Emanuel has forgotten that, and wants to minimize Howard Dean’s impact on the past two campaigns as much as possible.
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    Paul Dirks: I should be asking who Tim Kaine is and what strategy is he likely to bring to the DNC.
    .
    Yes, I’m wondering if Kaine will continue the strategy of competing in every race in every state or will rehash the MacAuliffe-Emanuel strategy.

  • Karen Tumulty

    Andy:
    .

    “as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns — the ones we don’t know we don’t know.”
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    Pure comedy gold.

  • Andy from MA

    g_crush:I don’t believe you revert to failed tactics, if the new tactics worked. I think the major difference between them is that Dean is a strategic thinker, Emmanuel is not. Which is why Emmanuel may be a really effective Chief of Staff, because it’s all about the tactics. It’s also natural given the two year election cycle in the house.
    .
    I’m not going to get hung up on this story. Jayackroyd, I agree with you on P-luks comments.
    .
    I think there’s so much energy today because KT’s posting for the first time in a couple of days…there’s been some withdrawal.
    .
    Her channeling of Rumsfeld in post #37 was too funny.

  • http://pourmecoffee.blogspot.com pourmecoffee

    I’m not picking on KT. Politico has an even longer story, top-of-fold and breathlessly titled Lei-off: Obama snubs Dean. I’ve read it twice and I can’t find a single piece of information in it beyond the fact that Dean wasn’t at the announcement. That’s it. No one has anything on a change in direction — not a single quote. This entire story is being driven off the engine of Dean’s absence at this announcement. Absolutely crazy.

  • jennofark

    I think folks are missing the obvious.
    .
    Dean has long been considered “the enemy” by the DLC powerbrokers who controlled the party from the early 90′s through 2006 (and who retained a significant hold on power after that). The long primary was essentially a DLC vs. non-DLC struggle for control of the party…Dean ended up on Obama’s side more or less by default, since Obama was the candidate running a campaign that did not focus exclusively on the “Democratic” states and the DLC “safe state” strategy that had continued to lose elections. He would have likely ended up on Obama’s side anyway, thanks to the Clintons’ efforts to shut him out of DNC leadership at the beginning, and their renewed attempts to oust him as DNC chair in the months leading up to the 2006 mid-terms, when his 50-state strategy was vindicated and cut the legs out from under continued DLC attempts to oust him.
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    Rahm is DLC and was backing Hillary at least early in the primaries. You can be sure he still has no love for Howard Dean.
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    Mending fences after the primary meant nothing so much as finding a way to bring the DLC faction into support of the nominee. I’ve no doubt that getting rid of Dean was one of the concessions made to heal the rift. We should all be thankful that Obama did not instead allow the DLC to shove Hillary or Evan Bayh down his throat as running mate, which was the ultimate DLC goal, as it would set up one of their own as Democratic frontrunner in 2016.
    .
    In short, I’ve never seen any real evidence of bad blood between Obama and Dean and don’t believe it exists. This boils down to nothing more than strategy to unify the party after an intraparty power struggle. I think that Dean is as much a pragmatist as Obama is and saw it coming, though it would be nice to see Dean get the respect he’s earned. I have to believe that Dean’s absence was an oversight rather than planned as a rebuke.

  • rose83

    I’ve never understood why there are no unknown knowns…

    Rose, thank you for your thoughtful response to my question.

    P-NNTO, some questions can be answered well without a lot of thought.

  • rose83

    Rahm is DLC and was backing Hillary at least early in the primaries. You can be sure he still has no love for Howard Dean.

    jennofark, No, Rahm was carefully neutral until after Indiana. Also I was always surprised by how neutral Dean was, even late in the primaries process. Unlike Pelosi, he was always open to the idea of nominating someone who did not win the pledged delegates. I’m not sure why that was – maybe he felt it was important to be neutral given his position – but if we’re looking for signals/gossip perhaps he knew that Obama’s organizational strength would pose more of a threat to the DNC.

  • Andy from MA

    rose83 – “I’ve never understood why there are no unknown knowns…”
    .
    AKA blindspots but here is an example that is interesting.
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    http://www.businessballs.com/johariwindowmodel.htm

  • g_crush

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    Andy from MA: I don’t believe you revert to failed tactics, if the new tactics worked.
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    Oh no, my take is much different than that. I’m thinking more along these lines. I’ve seen too many teams get a lead and blow the game because they got comfortable and stopped working.

  • http://www.ghostnote.com Cookie Puss

    No matter where he was yesterday or what Rahm thinks of him, Howard Dean did a great job. Thank you!

  • Andy from MA

    What Cookie Puss said in #54.
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    grape, I can say grape now, can’t I? I understand your point, saw the game live, and I hope you’re are wrong. I much prefer “situational football.”
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    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=dw-belichick012007&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

  • grape_crush

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    Andy from MA: I can say grape now, can’t I?
    .
    Hey! So you can! So can I!

  • Karen Tumulty

    Grape:

    Yes, you can! You’re Good Enough, You’re Smart Enough, and Doggone It, People Like You
    .
    Sorry, I’m just channeling today. Should get back to being on vacation.

  • Andy from MA

    KT — I think we’ve been given a glimpse of what the Swampkids and Swamphusband see every day. I reserve judgement as to whether that’s a good or bad thing. Enjoy your vaca, KT.

  • Paul-no not that one

    “jennofark, No, Rahm was carefully neutral until after Indiana”
    http://www.votehillary.org/CMS/Media/4-22-06RealTime/Hi.html

  • rose83

    P-NNTO, that was in 2006 before Obama entered the race.

    Rep. Rahm Emanuel, chairman of the House Democratic Caucus, has thrown his support behind Illinois Sen. Barack Obama after remaining neutral throughout the primary race.

    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=91163192

  • rose83

    More on Emanuel’s neutrality: Appearing on HBO’s “Real Time with Bill Maher” back in April of 2006, Emanuel voiced his support for Clinton’s presidential bid.
    ..
    “I’m supporting Hillary Clinton,” said Emanuel. “I’m public about it.”
    ..
    But once fellow Chicago Democrat Obama, who is close to Emanuel, expressed his interest in running for president, the House Democratic Caucus Chairman struck a neutral pose and has remained neutral since then.
    ..
    “I’m hiding under the desk,” Emanuel famously told the Chicago Sun-Times in November of 2006. “I’m very far under the desk, and I’m bringing my paper and my phone.”
    ..
    http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/05/emanuel-dubs-ob.html

  • plukasiak

    Triple no. So, as a political reporter, I am watching “signals.”

    apropos of nothing, but I think you are confusing “signal” with “signs”. “Signal” necessarily implies agency and intent, while a “sign” need not be intentional.

    In other words, the Dean diss seems like a sign to those who want a continuation of the 50 State Strategy can expect to be given no serious consideration by Obama and his factotums. But whether that was the intended message (i.e. a “signal”) is highly questionable, Considering Obama’s “lets all work together” rhetoric, it makes no sense that he would send a massive “screw you” to the thousands of state and local party officials and activists who fully supported the 50 State initiative.

  • grape_crush

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    Karen Tumulty: Sorry, I’m just channeling today.
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    lol – Franken on the brain.
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    Should get back to being on vacation.
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    For info junkies, blogging is being on vacation…
    .

  • plukasiak

    re: Dean’s “success”
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    While I’m a strong supporter of Dean’s strategy the jury is still out on that one, because the 50 state strategy has nothing to do with winning in specific election cycles, and everything to do with building a party that is competitive in every state and (ultimately) in every locality. Its a long term strategy, and the Democrats success in 2006 and 2008 had far less to do with state and local party organization than with externalities (read, Bush’s unpopularity) that gave Democrats an edge.
    _
    At best, the Dean strategy may have been responsible for some very close victories over the last two election cycles, but that’s really besides the point. Dean’s strategy is designed to be “personality independent” — its about not relying on the relative popularity of individual Presidents, but rather building a party that has an identity that goes well beyond what happens in Washington.
    _
    finally, someone suggested that this was all about the DLC. That’s dead wrong — this is not about ideology, but the locus of power. DLCers outside of the beltway supported the 50 state strategy, those inside the beltway opposed it.

  • middlegirl

    JMart once again publishes a gossipy, not thoroughly substantiated story. He lives to get the libruls riled up and I must say he’s remarkably skilled at it. Personally,I always have my grains of salt ready for any of his columns. I refuse to be his trained monkey.

  • rubypanther

    This is sort of attitude of entitlement is just another part of the “politics as usual” that Obama promised to free us from, and while I do also think Dean’s 50 state plan was brilliant and he should be given credit for that, I don’t think an attitude of entitlement is the proper way to serve the country.

    I’m sure Dean will continue to serve and do a great job in other roles.

    But he’s not Superman and, for example, he could not take on the role Rahmbo has with the same hope for success. He tends to get along really well with half the room, and the other half don’t fear him or otherwise find a way to follow. So maybe he is better as a second tier star.

  • kathy

    KT – I missed this thread yesterday. I can tell you people in Vt are a little miffed too, especially as Obama has had such strong support from Vermonters, who generally still hold Howard Dean in high regard.
    .
    Howard was on Hardball 2-3 days ago (I don’t have audio so I can’t check out the clip) insisting to Matthews (who has always liked Howard) that he’s not miffed not to get a cabinet post (well what else was he going to say), but more interestingly he said he was going into the private sector, and then said he was going to be working to pass Obama’s health care plan. In fact, it sounded to me like he was saying that his private sector work would be to work on passing the health care plan.
    .
    Could he be returning to Democracy for America (does that count as private sector?) http://www.democracyforamerica.com/
    .
    As some of you have indicated, Dean has never been as liberal as he was charged with being during the 04 campaign. He’s fairly liberal on social issues, but is a fiscal conservative (with an early background as a stockbroker). He is mostly a good government pragmatist. in 1992 after he became governor when Gov. Snelling died, Howard was challenged from the left for the party nomination.

  • Karen Tumulty

    Pluk: Is this thread still alive? You are absolutely right about my misuse of “sign” vs “signal.” Good thing I don’t have to, like, use words for a living or anything.

  • russwallac

    Below is part of email I received from the DNC yesterday. Lots of praise for Dean and the 50 state strategy, but then just a rather weaselly promise that the DNC “will continue to organize and compete in every corner of our country.” Looks to me like we can kiss the fifty state strategy goodbye.

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    “We’re in a strong position to build the Democratic Party, renew our commitment to the principles we share, and continue the outstanding work of Chairman Howard Dean.

    Among his many achievements, Governor Dean launched a strategy to reach out to Americans in all 50 states — north, south, east and west. This 50-state strategy helped Democrats compete in states where we hadn’t in years, including states like Virginia.

    Governor Kaine has seen the power of the 50-state strategy firsthand, and under his leadership, Democrats will continue to organize and compete in every corner of our country.”

  • belvedere2457

    >>russwallac Says:
    Looks to me like we can kiss the fifty state strategy goodbye.

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    1. continue the outstanding work of Chairman Howard Dean.

    2. Governor Dean launched a strategy to reach out to Americans in all 50 states.

    3. This 50-state strategy helped Democrats compete in states where we hadn’t in years.

    4. Governor Kaine has seen the power of the 50-state strategy firsthand,

    5. Democrats will continue to organize and compete in every corner of our country.

    * * *

    Yeah, I can see why you’re sure that the 50-state strategy will be discontinued. The email never acknowledged the 50-state strategy or that it worked or that it would be continued or anything like that. The email completely dissed Dean and the 50-state strategy in every way!!

    {Step away from the crack pipe, dude.}

  • plukasiak

    {Step away from the crack pipe, dude.}
    _
    you obviously don’t understand nuances in political language — and/or what the 50 State Strategy was.
    _
    Here’s a hint. In not about promising to “organize and compete” everywhere — that’s boilerplate. Its about decentralizing power in the Democratic Party, and creating a party whose agenda is formulated at the grassroots and filters up to the party hierarchy, rather than being determined by Beltway democrats.

  • hungabee

    I have been trying to find someone close enough to Obama to send this to:

    Please pass this message to the President-elect when you see him:

    Dear Mr. Obama:

    A few years ago I watched the Democratic response to George Bush’s State of the Union
    address. The responder said nothing of substance. He ended each vacuous paragraph
    with a pathetic bleat: “There is a better way” — but he neither outlined nor exemplified it.
    His whole presentation was best characterized by the word ‘gay’, as schoolboys use that word today.

    Now you have made this wet smack the chairman of the Democratic Party. When you introduced him as such you went out of your way to snub the man who, perhaps more than anyone except you yourself and your chief campaign managers, helped win your election. Your choice was pathetic and your snub was shameful. I hope we can expect better from you when you take the office Howard Dean helped gain for you.

  • krynop

    I got that DNC email too and had the same reaction. Change is coming the DNC. It’s going to get gobbled up by Obama’s handlers.

    One lasting reform that Gov. Dean made was instituting a national voter file for the Democratic Party. Like the Republicans’ vaunted Voter Vault, which was key to their micro-targeting strategy, Dean got all the states (except Illinois) to cooperate on pooling data to create a national voter file known as the VAN (voter activation network). This will likely continue to pay dividends to Democrats for local and state races.

    I suspect Dean will eventually return to Democracy for America to advocate for grassroots political organizing. My understanding is his immediate plan is to travel the country to speak out on the health insurance bill the Obama Administration hopes to pass.

    As for getting dissed, Dean seems thick skinned. But is was bad form on Obama’s part, deliberate or not.

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