Swampland Gets Scooped!

Not me. At. All.

Loved him in The Honeymooners.

Nothing to see here, move on!

The Page describes Carney as “outgoing bureau chief”. Was Carney among the victims of the latest Time employee purge?

KT here–

Pluk: Jay elected to take our current buyout offer. Here’s Rick Stengel’s announcement from earlier today:

After twenty extraordinary years at TIME, Jay Carney is moving on to a new challenge. Jay has been pretty much everywhere for us. He started as Miami bureau chief and then became a correspondent in Moscow before landing in Washington and eventually becoming bureau chief. He was in Havana when Mikhail Gorbachev first visited in 1989; he was on the first plane of journalists into Panama for the U.S. invasion that same year; in 1991, he was at the television tower in Vilnius, Lithuania, when Soviet tanks rolled in, and in Red Square when they rolled again during the failed coup that led to the Soviet Union’s demise. On 9/11, he was aboard Air Force One with President Bush. He had two stints covering the White House and excelled in his coverage of the McCain 2000 campaign and of the Clinton impeachment. As a reporter and as bureau chief, he always fought for fairness and balance in our coverage whether it was of the left or the right. He is a superb journalist, an exemplary bureau chief and he also happens to be one of the pleasantest and most decent guys in our business. We wish him well in his new endeavors, which we will hear about shortly.

Oh noes! how did they scoop you?
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plukasiak – Carney is going to work for Biden.

Carney going to work for Biden. Now that’s interesting.

So he takes a buyout and now gets a sweet gig with Biden? LUCKY/napoleon dynamite voice

No we won’t, Jay! Don’t let the door hit your ass on the way out!

Did I just see a blurb about something being hurled at Pat Buchanan’s head? Get someone on this, stat! We need video!

Soon I’ll be able to see your whole “About Swampland” column without scrolling.

First Ana, now Jay. Last blogger turn out the lights!

Disappointment. It was old video. Salad dressing from 2005. Sorry, folks.
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The video is hilarious though.

Proposed headline: “Carney Joins Circus.” Thank you.

Yes, I’ll miss Jay. I never thought he was in the tank for the right, and it’s a stretch to think that Biden would have chosen him if he were. Also, Carney’s descriptions of McCain having been body-snatched by an alien certainly didn’t help the Republicans.
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I wish him all success as Biden’s communications director. I want Biden to succeed, so I especially want Jay to succeed.

Well, Biden should be able to fire every US Attorney now with is press spokesperson honestly saying it’s no big deal.
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Seriously though, good luck to Jay and congrats on the new gig. He is not half bad and I hope this works out well.

OT, but obliquely about the news biz: Mort Zuckerman was snookered by Madoff, and while I have deep sympathy to anyone who finds himself in this position, I seem to remember a lot of self-righteous pontificating about people who bought houses they couldn’t afford, and signed contracts they didn’t understand. I wonder if he has a different perspective on that now.

Good luck to Jay…I remember during the primary constantly knocking him for anti-Obama bias in his posts, and now he’s joining the team! How things have changed….

Murphy never posts. Cox was mercifully retired (no more giggly, post-teen bullsh1t). Carney saw the writing on the old media wall and headed for the exits, cash in hand (he never posted, anyway, so no loss in that sense). Nobody posts on weekends here.

I hope for the sakes of the people left Time has some kind of plan for this place. Because if they do have one, I can’t see what it is.

Now I can get my Jays on Swampland straight.

Good luck in your new job Mr. Carney.

Best of luck, Mr. Carney. I appreciated your willingness to respond to poster’s comments (this was a couple of blogging software versions ago…) even if I still disagreed with your responses. You signalled a willingness to withstand the urge to stereotype bloggers and commenters as cheeto-inhaling, pajama-wearing Gen Xers living in their parents’ basement.

I wish you the best. And lament the reality that your leaving is not a good sign for Time, Inc, or for any other weekly magazine.

Wow, first no more Biden on the Acela, now no more Carney in the swamp and in the pages. Best of luck. KT or JNS, will you be posing questions to Communications Director Carney in the future (prefaced by a snarky story from days past, to put him off his game)?

“Best of luck, Mr. Carney. I appreciated your willingness to respond to poster’s comments”
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Have we found a way to manipulate worm holes or something? Which parallel universe did this take place in?
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This does give credence to the idea that Time’s right bias is enforced from above. It would be interesting to get Carney’s views on Gonzo and the DOJ scandal now that he’s not in fear for his paycheck…right KT?

Anybody listening to the news conference? Man, a real scientist who understands more about energy than any of us ever will. There is hope for us.

All I know is somebody owes me $20

All I know is somebody owes me $20

Have we found a way to manipulate worm holes or something? Which parallel universe did this take place in?

When Time first unveiled Swampland. He did respond, or used to.

I only stop by occasionally, so it sounds from your comment that it hasn’t happened in awhile. It used to, much more frequently.

I disagreed frequently with Mr. Carney. One of my first posts here at Swampland was over his comments about “the left” being “as full of unthinking Ditto-heads as Limbaugh-land.”
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But as a card carrying member of the Internets DFH’s, let me say I wish him well at his new gig…

I am discomfited by Biden’s choice of Communications Director…

Undeniable proof of meme pushing by our MSM
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Markos posted this over at dailykos.
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An email from a major media outlet:
Dear Mr. Moulitsas:
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I work for XXX. A correspondent within the Washington DC bureau who focuses on defense policies has asked me to search for Obama supporters who are somewhat disappointed by his policy on issues such as the Iraq War.
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I was wondering if you might be one such individual because as we know, Obama has continued to be vague about pulling troops out of Iraq and showed that ambiguity by having Secretary Gates on the job. Please contact me if you are interested in an interview.
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If there is such an outcry from Obama supporters, shouldn’t it be easy to find such people? Instead, media organizations look to manufacture fake controversies where none apparently exist.

Barak Obama quote from a presser today: “We will make decisions based on facts.”
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Always a good thing.
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It’s also a good thing for reporters to make decisions based on facts, which is what we were asking Jay Carney to do when he called us “unthinking dittoheads.”
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But, that was almost two years ago… Today, I wish him good luck and I hope things go well for him at the OVP.

Argh. Barack Obama.

Why does Joe Biden hate America?

Good luck at your new job, Jay. You did a good job here even though I nailed you on those Clinton job approval ratings in the beginning.

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Remember what Mencken said though about the news business:

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As I look back over a misspent life, I find myself more and more
convinced that I had more fun doing news reporting than in any other
enterprise. It is really the life of kings.

Cookie Puss wins the thread!

“mgale Says: Murphy never posts.”

I believe Murphy is literally on a slow boat to China right now.

I like Obama and Biden having Linda Douglas and Jay working for them. They should certainly know what the reporters are planning and how they will pounce.

Meanwhile, the Republicans are sneaking out the back door with lirerally every last dollar this country has…

Did I just get hit with a shoe?

Just a random thought, but could it be that JC is a “Manchurian Candidate”-type? I mean, JC working for Biden does seem rather incongruous.

Jay’s going to work for Biden reminds me that the actual battle lines in this country aren’t between the right and the left. They are between the ‘serious’ and the ‘unserious’ That’s why stories can proliferate about the ‘angry’ reaction to the news that Obama intends to govern in exactly the same that he said he would when he was campaigning. It also helps explain why Joe Klein is so comfortable with Obama even though he’s a true believer in America’s role as the bearer of the White Man’s Burden in the Middle East and elsewhere.

The hearless bastards. They just aren’t satisfied with rifling the treasury…
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http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/science/12/12/acorn.shortage/index.html

Nah, 53. I still got two fivers in me back pocket. Wait – let me check…

It didn’t help that Sarah Palin helped remove the mantle of ‘serious’ from the Republican Party at the worst possible moment.

“Nah, 53. I still got two fivers in me back pocket. Wait – let me check…”
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Nothing but dust in there, I bet…
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How the hell did Biden pick Jay, anyway? I don’t get it.

I would have thought Joe Klien would be a better choice.
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As far as Obama is concerned, I honestly think he trying to put the far right out of business – and – he might succeed!

So Tweety just came to the realization that the run up to the Iraq War was just a charade today.
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It sux being a DFH, you’re right 99% of the time, nobody ever admits it and they just keep on insulting you all the while talking up the idiots who’ve been wrong their entire lives. It’s enough to make you cynical.
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Jay, don’t know if I ever took the time to tell you, but…I hate your f@cking guts. ESAD.

kristiia Says:

I like Obama and Biden having Linda Douglas and Jay working for them. They should certainly know what the reporters are planning and how they will pounce.

Keep in mind that for Carney, this is a waystation to a big job on TV (Think Matthews or Stephanopoulos), or maybe as a major columnist. That’s the brass ring, the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. But for him to get that means, above all else, he must maintain good relations with establishment Washington. If establishment Washington decides to go after Obama/Biden the way they went after Clinton/Gore, it puts Carney in a position where he best serves himself and his own ambitions by … how shall we say this … by not being the aggressive advocate that the Obama/Biden team would need in such a circumstance.

Not that I think the timid, conventional, careerist Carney is capable of such advocacy, anyway. In fact, about the only thing I see Carney bringing to the table in this job is his wife’s (ABC’s Claire Shipman) contacts and TV cachet, which — once again — underscores how incestuous and backscratching Washington culture is.

However good one might think this posting is for the Carney-Shipman clan, or for the short run interests of the Obama/Biden team, what it says about the state of Washington’s political culture suggests it’s a bad perpetuation of a bad status quo for the country. It’s the same group of people playing the same games in pursuit of the same goals, who have been in control there for 15 years. Eight of those years — the most recent eight — haven’t gone particularly well for the country. But the game, the goals, and above all, the people playing, remain unchanged.

Well since former Bush officials are taking all the jobs on CNN and Fox I see nothing wrong with Jay going in the opposite direction and taking a govment job. F*****it let the incest continue.

Ana twittered: “Prolly (another) sign I’m a bad person that my first thot on this (http://is.gd/bPJD) was, “The Swampland commenters are going to go nuts.”

And she was oh so wrong. See Ana, even humorless ego vampires like us can be nice.

Hey, Jay, congrats, and don’t be a stranger here on the Swamp as you pretty much have been so far. I do envy your world travels. Come again and share your experiences with Biden.

mgale, I posted before reading through yours. I think my post just compliments yours nicely.

Glenn Greenwald, Dan Froomkin, Scott Horton, and Andrew Sullivan on
Senate report links Bush to detainee homicides; media yawns
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Get all the links and details at Glenn’s place over at Salon.
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http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/?source=rss

So it turns out Senator Leahy DOESN’T have a spine after all.
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All this “bipartisansip” is making my head hurt.

gunny, as we know, we are in deep doo doo with these clowns. They have not just committed war crimes, murder, torture, inhumane treatment which would make Sadam proud, they have stolen trust. Trust makes the world go round. Thay have stolen it, kicked it, abused it, stomped it into the ground. Now, about the economy…

formerly – well as you know, it is just so much more important to hold Barack Obama accountable for listening to Patrick Fitzgerald instead of the MSM.

kathy, I am not sure I understand.
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Back to the clowns I mentioned, let me be sure to include Nancy “impeachment is off the table” Pelosi. Nancy speaks from under the table perhaps?

Not sure why Biden hiring Carney is a mystery to anyone. It’s always best to have a native speaker around when you want to venture into hostile territory to communicate with “the enemy”. Maybe Jay will even give Biden’s office some street cred.

Either that, or Biden needed whipping boy for Jared Bernstein for when he gets bored or fed up with Rubenomics.

AMC’s just jealous because all she got was a lousy T-shirt.

Jay’s a Democrat?

Glenn Greenwald, Dan Froomkin, Scott Horton, and Andrew Sullivan on
Senate report links Bush to detainee homicides; media yawns
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Who of the Swampland bloggers has the juevos to post about this? Not Carney or AMC, not Scherer. Not Murphy, who we haven’t seen since John McCain’s humiliating defeat.
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I’m guessing not Joe Klein, I think he’ll go back to not rocking the boat now the election’s over.
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That leaves JNS and KT. What about it, ladies?

Cliff, whoever it may be, I agree. That needs to be posted. Thanks to gunny.

Uhmmm yall must not realize that this story has already been posted several times since last week when it actually broke. Go back and look at the first post on Joe Klein’s thread about his Afghanistan story. None of the people at Swampland have ANY interest in talking about torture unless its Scherer claiming that a Democrat is backing away from banning it. But in his journalistic jiu jitsu he still manages to not ever mention WHY torture needs to be banned in the first place. It is what it is man.
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Keep it moving, nothing to see here.

Oh and per my post on Joe Klein’s thread from earlier today I am still looking for someone to pay me my $20.

Uh, the media didn’t exactly yawned. There are plenty of example of major news organizations reporting the Senate report on the day it occurred, Dec. 11, and int eh days following. A few examples, courtesy of memeorandum, courtesy of Google.
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Pentagon Will Study Senate Report on Detainee Torture
Voice of America – Dec 12, 2008
By Al Pessin The Pentagon said it will take action if a US Senate report on the torture of detainees provides new information.
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US Senate report blames Rumsfeld for detainee abuse
Xinhua, China – Dec 12, 2008
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Report Faults Bush Officials for Detainee Abuses
Hartford Courant, United States – Dec 12, 2008
By GREG MILLER and JULIAN E. BARNES | Los Angeles Times
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Senators accuse Rumsfeld over abuse of detainees
guardian.co.uk, UK – Dec 11, 2008
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Report Blames Rumsfeld for Detainee Abuses
New York Times, United States – Dec 11, 2008
By SCOTT SHANE and MARK MAZZETTI WASHINGTON
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Breaking The Will Newsweek – Dec 11, 2008
The Bush administration approved the use of “waterboarding” on Al Qaeda detainees after receiving reports from government psychologists…
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US Senate report ties Rumsfeld to Abu Ghraib abuse
Reuters – Dec 11, 2008
By David Morgan WASHINGTON, Dec 11 (Reuters)
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Bush, Rumsfeld Decisions Led to Abuse, Panel Says
Bloomberg – Dec 11, 2008
By Ken Fireman Dec. 11 (Bloomberg)
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Report Faults Top Officials for Detainee Abuse
Wall Street Journal – Dec 11, 2008
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Greenwald was more upset that the Sunday talk shows and rent-a-pundits hadn’t talked about it. That would suggest they have less to do with journalism and more to do with entertainment.

Oops. sgwhiteinfla beat me to the point.
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And yawned=yawn.

davemc321
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But here is one key difference. The reason why you can still say the yawned is because none of the stories had any legs. They haven’t done ANY follow up and I would be willing to bet that none of those articles have any quotes from anybody in the Bush administration. Not even a “no comment”. Contrast that with the fact that the LATimes has had a Blago gate story every day since he was arrested even one focusing solely on his wife.
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That, to me, is the biggest difference.

mgale: Very prosaic.

Carney getting on the payroll of the hair-plugged buffoon and Soviet useful idiot has to be one of the least surprising events of the year. Maybe he can take Obama spokeswoman Claire Shipman with him, although I would prefer that ABC continue to foot the bill for Shipman’s services to Obama and not the American taxpayers. Anyone heard if former Time magazine writer Nina Burleigh, last heard announcing her desire to give Boy Clinton a bj for being such an abortion enthusiast, will be taking a position in the thoroughly unqualified, terrorist fraternizing, community organizer’s adminstration?

“”Prolly (another) sign I’m a bad person that my first thot”– AMC
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I just don’t understand how such a skilled and thoughtful writer can’t find gainful employment.

Can textee pass a turing test?
I’m beginning to doubt he’s human.

textee is a trollgorithm designed by Karl Rove to disrupt blog threads wherever possible.

:Uh, the media didn’t exactly yawned”
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davemc321-Ahh, yea they did.

Well, sg and davemc, excuuuuuuuussssssmmeeeee. Although we all know of torture, abuse, murder, war crimes, deceit, and other crimes and misdemeanors of this administration, they are still there, aren’t they?
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No such thing as too much circulation. Maybe everybody will get the memo.

formerlyjames
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You misunderstand me. My point isn’t that circulating the story is bad. Hell I was inspired to create my own blog this weekend over the combined frustration of nobody posting anything about it here at Swampland AND the fact that I was sticking to my pledge not to post on any Scherer threads but he was the only one posting all weekend.
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My point is that expecting anybody HERE to report on it is just an exercise in frustration. Whenever a REAL story comes along we all keep badgering them to put up a post on it and aside from KT once in awhile they never do anything about it. I mean I am pretty sure that they have a lot more access than us to pertinent news so its not like they don’t know whats going on in the world. They just CHOOSE not to shine a spotlight on it for what ever reason that helps them sleep at night.

sg, I understand. I have gone to your blog, but have not posted. It is very good, although I am not into the sports chat part of it. You do good sg, thanks.

formerlyjames
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Thanks

And my only point is that you can’t say the MSM is ignoring the story when they’re reporting the story. Journalism is a continuing process, all that first-draft-of-history business. The senate report just broke last Thursday. I think – or at least hope – that some reporters are digging deeper into it and will file more and more
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With the waning fortunes of newspapers and the severe cutbacks in staff, that may be wishful thinking.
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That said, it is an important story and should receive intensive coverage. Things like Blago are cheap, easy and fit into the overriding political narrative that equates scandal with significance.
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As for the talk shows and TV pundits, screw ‘em. They’re more concerned with ratings and career moves than journalism.

Undeniable proof of meme pushing by our MSM
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uh, no.
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its merely more evidence of how lazy and stupid “our MSM” is — Markos has now become part of “The Village”… and is one of the usual suspects that so-call journalists contact for comment when they want a “left” perspective (forget the facts, all “journalists” need do is account for competing narratives and they’ve done their “jobs”.)

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