BlagoGate: Obama’s Burden

At a news conference just now, U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald made very clear that he had uncovered no evidence of misbehavior on the part of Barack Obama. “I should be clear that the complaint makes no allegations whatsoever about the president-elect or his conduct,” he said. But he also made clear that his investigation was hardly complete. He still needed “to find out what happened.” And he said, as a policy, that the U.S. Attorney office is not in the business of “giving clean bills of health.”

That’s the reason that the fall of Gov. Rod Blagojevich is going to continue to haunt Obama, not to mention Chicago’s Democratic establishment where he built his roots.  The President of the United States has a higher burden than just about any elected official anywhere. His staff will be called on by the press to account for all their conversations with Blagojevich and his aides. Obama will have to explain what he knew about these discussions. The bit players in the complaint, like the unnamed Senate Candidate 1 and Senate Candidate 5, will have to come forward and explain their involvement. If the investigation continues into next year, which seems likely, there may even be calls for the appointment of something like an independent counsel at the Justice Department to avoid any hint of political interference. Obama’s staff and political allies may be forced to get attorneys of their own.

To be clear, the bugging and wire tapping of Blagojevich suggests that Obama was not playing in the corruption scheme. The complaint states, “Blagojevich said he knew that the President-elect wanted Senate Candidate 1 for the open seat but ‘they’re not willing to give me anything except appreciation. [Expletive] them.’ ” But that is not the operating factor here. U.S. Attorney investigations often end with indictments far from where they start. (See the cases of Valerie Plame and Jack Abramoff.) And Fitzgerald is going to continue to follow the facts, which means many more questions for people close to Obama. So regardless of Obama’s innocence, this will continue to be a burden for the president-elect and those around him. Politics, like life, is not fair.

UPDATE: ABC’s Jake Tapper illustrates how this game is played. At a press avail this afternoon, Obama said, “I had no contact with the governor or his office and so we were not, I was not aware of what was happening.” But just a few weeks ago, David Axelrod, Obama’s top adviser, said this on Fox News, about Obama, the governor and the search for a Senate replacement: “I know he’s talked to the governor and there are a whole range of names many of which have surfaced, and I think he has a fondness for a lot of them.” Obama is avoiding further comment on the criminal complaint because, he said, this is an “ongoing investigation.” But the investigation will likely last for months. It’s not clear how long the Obama team can leave contradictions like this on the public record, without clarifying. (Tapper now updates his post, adding word that an Obama transition aide says Axelrod misspoke.)

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  • http://pourmecoffee.blogspot.com pourmecoffee

    Haunt? What a drama queen you are Michael.

  • http://www.inworldstudios.com jayackroyd

    WTF?
    .

  • trifecta55

    Oh, give me a freaking break Michael. Just pretend he was George Bush circa 2001-2005 and give him the same press coverage. There will be no “haunting” then. Or are the Clinton rules back in effect, where smear and innuendo rule the day?
    .
    Obama wouldn’t play ball. This is very freaking haunting. What should be haunting is that the owner of the Tribune was going to fire editorial staff in order to get $100,000,000 from Blago.
    .
    That should be haunting to you.

  • fourlegsgood

    Oh, for god’s sake.
    .
    Fitzgerald has found that Obama didn’t “pay for play” and that translates into a ‘burden’ that might haunt Obama?
    .
    Get a grip.

  • teresakopec

    I’d like to know why the Trib did not report coercion by the gov over their own dealings.

  • fourlegsgood

    Or are the Clinton rules back in effect, where smear and innuendo rule the day?
    .
    Naturally Obama is responsible for everything that happens in Chicago.
    .
    /snark

  • middlegirl

    Haunting Obama? Boy, are you quick to spread the guilt by association slime. jeez, you are practically salivating with the prospect.

  • bitterpill8

    Glad to see you are in salivating mode, MS. I guess we can rely on the Republican Hackopedia to try to bring Pres-elect into the mix. To all those aides about whom you are concerned, if they tell the truth they will not need to worry. The one thing I have noticed about Fitzgerald: he is not Starr. Are you going to play by Clinton rules?

  • http://pourmecoffee.blogspot.com pourmecoffee

    Haunt. Ha ha ha. Still laughing. Blagojevich is a criminal, not a vampire. Michael Scherer is afraid of vampires. Count Blagola. Ha ha ha. Boo!

  • trifecta55

    I am still in non insulting Michael mode. Somebody please do it for me.

  • http://sinisterbutterfly.wordpress.com/ jwbates

    Holy cow. This post is the most blatantly hackish thing I’ve ever seen you write.

  • cincinnatus est exterminata!

    Michael Scherer have a merry go f@ck yourself.
    .
    “That’s the reason that the fall of Gov. Rod Blagojevich is going to continue to haunt Obama…To be clear, the bugging and wire tapping of Blagojevich suggests that Obama was not playing in the corruption scheme…But that is not the operating factor here. U.S. Attorney investigations often end with indictments far from where they start.”
    .
    So anyone under the sun might be indicted, but what they hell, lets spotlight Obama even though it doesn’t seem like he’s involved. Brilliant. 8 years of blatant corruption in broad daylight and you got not a bit of it, or even wanted to…now this. You are a piece of sh!t.

  • http://pourmecoffee.blogspot.com pourmecoffee

    It’s a shame Don LaFontaine died, he could do a trailer for this post, “In a world where all Chicagoans are alike …”

  • ogliberal

    Jesus God on a bike, Michael. While I’m sure Obama would rather not have had this happen – better to be able to focus on the issues that will be facing him when he’s in office – it’s his burden that the governor of Illinois – a guy who isn’t even a political ally, a guy with whom the Obama team would specically NOT play ball – is a corrupt scumbag? Jarrett pulled her name out of the running pretty early, probably, in part, because Blagojevich was giving her and the Obama team the creeps. Heck, they may have even given Fitz a heads up.

    If Jarrett and other folks on the Obama team who may have been caught in this Web can help Fitz put this jagoff away, that’a burden?

    Blagojevich Whitewater. Next!

  • trifecta55

    I am so hopping mad at this unadulterated piece of cr@p that I could scream. We are going to have an expose by MS any day of Obama being the bag man for the Mena Arkansas cocaine ring that helped finance the hit on Vince Foster.
    .
    The Clinton rules are coming back. The press could ignore the 1,000,000 dead in Iraq. Hey, it was good for ratings. It’s time to go back to smear and innuendo.
    .
    Expletives deleted.

  • fourlegsgood

    I am still in non insulting Michael mode. Somebody please do it for me.
    .
    Okay.
    .
    Michael just brung teh stupid. Again.

  • Andy from MA

    Coffee: In a world where Michael Scherer was a credible journalist…

  • incandenzah

    Ah! The old hack Michael’s back, huh?
    Wondered how long that would take.
    “Clinton Rules” become “Obama Rules,” in Scherer land.
    “…haunt Obama,” indeed.

  • James, Los Angeles

    Indeed, Michael. Get a grip.
    .
    All of a sudden now that George W Bush and his MOST corrupt, but MOST unquestioned, administration in history is almost out the door, and now you invoke Clinton Rules of innuendo, fact-less speculation, and dark intimations of wrongdoing, no matter how far-fetched. There is OVERT EVIDENCE OF INNOCENCE by the entire Obama team. Don’t say there isn’t.
    .
    Clinton Rules, according to a friend:
    .
    “..the habit in the media to pursue and often magnify allegations of wrongdoing no matter how disproven, or incredible, in ways that set aside the tenets of the media as a profession and in ways that have no equivalent in media coverage of Republicans.”
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    Haunt them, my azz.

  • http://pourmecoffee.blogspot.com pourmecoffee

    The greatest Chicago vampire of them all! Sure to terrify the easily-haunted Michael Scherer – five time winner of the “Most Hauntable” journalist trophy.

  • http://sinisterbutterfly.wordpress.com/ jwbates

    Michael, can you just explain what the point of this post was? What was going through your head when you decided to write it? Were you drunk? Stoned? Pissed off at your girlfriend? What?

    Seriously. When every piece of evidence points against a hypothesis, why write a post claiming that the hypothesis *might* be true?

    Your real point, aside from being poisonous, is that even tangential involvement in an investigation incurs overhead, both logistically and from a PR standpoint. However, *every* indication to this point is that no one in the Obama camp would even entertain playing Blagojevich’s games, and Fitzgerald is known to be both thorough and fair.

    Why is that fact buried beneath three paragraphs of nasty speculation?

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    Rather than pile on MS, I’ll simply note that few things inspire more confidence than being sure of your own innocence while being questioned. It’s even more inspiring to note that the person doing the questioning is not a politically motivated hack but is someone noted for their integrity and tenaciousness.

    In other words, MS’s blatant concern-trolling aside, Obama has nothing to worry about.

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  • http://pourmecoffee.blogspot.com pourmecoffee

    Obama has nothing to worry about. Agreed. But, does he have something to be haunted about?

  • http://www.simonvinkenoog.nl/beeld/Yogi%20-%20Annelies%20Rigter.jpg yogi

    Michael, you of all people, by working in Washington, should know Watergate was an building complex. Gate does not mean scandal. Please help the media stop from adding “gate” onto the end of every scandal, it’s annoying and inaccurate. Thanks.

  • trifecta55

    Reports in Chicago tv now that Rahm Emmanuel blew the whistle on Blago.
    This helps make this blog post look even more retarded (if possible).
    Forget it. My moratorium is up.
    .
    Michael, this was one of the most stupid things you ever wrote, and that is quite a feat.

  • Andy from MA

    MS how many times have you sat on sa tory when asked to by prosecutors?

  • middlegirl

    Re: Michael’s “concern trolling,”aka, passive agressiveness which is the specialty of most concerned trolls.

  • gduvall

    Michael Scherer has once again proven himself incapable of responsible journalism.

    For the good of the nation, he must be fired.

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  • cincinnatus est exterminata!

    “The talkers are talking, but, evidently, Time is not; Michael Scherer’s analysis here is almost laughably incomplete…It’s just not good enough to for commentators to say “this could be one thing or it could be another.” It’s actually entirely valid—indeed it’s a journalist’s job—to assess whether the attack is misdirection or whether it’s a legitimate complaint. Do some reporting and pass an informed judgment. If that’s not a possibility, then don’t write about it in the first place.”
    http://www.cjr.org/campaign_desk/beg_borrow_or_steal_an_opinion.php
    .
    It’s a different issue altogether, but the accusations of journalistic malfeasance ring just as true w/ this one.

  • http://pourmecoffee.blogspot.com pourmecoffee

    One last point: Fear It!

  • ymmartin

    MS, very far out on the limb with your speculation. You may think you’re being objective by wrapping this post in the ‘boy this will be a headache for Obama, but yeah he’s probably innocent’ line. All that tells us is that you’re fishing for a story. A real whopper. The facts that are in is that it’s all on Blago, who was already under investigation – which was already reported about. The only thing shocking for folks is that this nutjob had the audacity to try and include the Senate seat as part of his malfeasance.

    I think you should put the Ouija board, crystal ball, or whatever and avoid such guesses as facts reporting.

  • nibblybits

    Hey people, MS is making an obvious point that people will be digging around to find a connection between Blag and Obama. If you don’t accept that, go look at the photo Drudge has plastered at the top of his homepage.

  • sy2d

    No more interminable wedgie intrigue … Jackass.

  • gysgt213

    I think we have all seen this act before from the MSM. Look for every republican operative available to be asked on the talking head shows and in print interviews to opine on how this is Obama’s burden to bear.

  • http://pourmecoffee.blogspot.com pourmecoffee

    I have to go back to work, but Michael would you be willing to stipulate that I have a ton more haunting jokes at your expense that would be hysterical? I’d do it for you, you know that.

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    When it rains it pours – for Obama.

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    If there’s smoke, there’s certainly fire…

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  • wvng

    While most everyone here should be correct, nibblybits#34 is actually correct in the real world.
    .
    Of course Clinton Rules will apply. Did anyone every doubt it?
    .
    Unless the msm wants to prove otherwise. I have CNN on in the background, and so far they are being remarkably on point – that this is a Vlad Blago problem. Jeff Toobin has been wonderfully incredulous. The host just broke in to restate that there is no sign that Obama was involved, that he refused to play ball.

  • ogliberal

    @curtislemay

    **

    Did you take some time off from firebombing the nips and gooks so that you could post a link about a Washington Times story that was published on 10/18?

    **

    Just like a winger…blindly following Drudge wherever he leads.

  • http://nicewhitelady.blogspot.com/ joyomama

    My guess is that, far from “haunting” Obama, it’s going to hang around his neck like Olympic gold. Some of the transcripts make it really, really clear that Obama was not playing along and that Blagojevich was %*!&@$ mad about it.

  • indianasteve

    You are definitely on the right path here. There is only one degree of separation between Obama and Blag – and his name is Rezko. Remember Resko has been convicted and has agreed to cooperate for leniency in sentencing. My guess is this is just one of his cooperating moments.
    Look into how Obama bought his house – that never got the serious scrutiny that it deserved, since Obama walked on water through the primaries and the election. His water walking shoes don’t work anymore, although some of your readers think they still do.
    The other smelly thing is the extremely generous salary Michelle gets from the hospital. If you track down the directors of the hospital, you will find who has bought Barack Obama. And I bet the purchaser never thought his payoff would be for a presidency within only a few years!
    I expect Congress will have to investigate all this mess – fat chance of that happening.

  • Cliff

    Hey, I heard some people smoke marijuana over in Hawaii. Obama needs to get on repudiating that.
    Seems like Kenya had some troubles with political unrest, too. Obama had better watch where he steps or that will come back on him hard.
    Don’t even get me started on video pirating in Indonesia.

  • nibblybits

    Some jokester listed Obama’s Senate seat up on Ebay to auction to the highest bidder. Clever.

  • Jim, Foolish Literalist

    joyomama: I’ll go you one better. There’s a rumor that it was Rahm Emmanuel who tipped off Fitz.

    http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/09/rahm-blago/
    **
    But that is not the operating factor here. U.S. Attorney investigations often end with indictments far from where they start. (See the cases of Valerie Plame and Jack Abramoff.)
    **
    The relevant comparison to what you’re suggesting is the “case” of Whitewater, Ken Starr, and the Beltway press corps. But Fitzgerald ain’t Starr, and Obama ain’t Clinton. Unfortunately, the rest of the players are either the same, or might as well be.

  • nibblybits

    indianasteve: “extremely generous salary Michelle gets from the hospital”? Uh…don’t know if this comes as a shock to you, but her quarter-mil salary is about par for someone with that kind of job title, education, experience in a metropolis. Frankly, when I first read it, I was wondering why it was so low, and then realized that her job was community outreach, which is practically non-profit-like.

  • http://nicewhitelady.blogspot.com/ joyomama

    Oh, never mind. I just cruised by Michelle Malkin and Hot Air, and the Truthers are having a party over this, facts be damned. So if by “haunt” you mean” add to the roiling crazy murmurs on the far-right fringe, you are right.

  • wvng

    yes indianasteve, I’m sure glad the conservative Chicago Tribune didn’t do an exhaustive review of the whole Rezko thing, and I’m sure glad Obama didn’t sit down with them for as long as they wanted and answer all their questions, and I’m really glad they didn’t say there was no there there. If that had happened, it might have put a damper on your charge.
    .
    Obama should have had Friday’s discussion 16 months ago. Asked why he didn’t, he spoke of learning, uncomfortably, what it’s like to live in a fishbowl. That made him perhaps too eager to protect personal information — too eager to "control the narrative." Less protection, less control, would have meant less hassle for his campaign. That said, Barack Obama now has spoken about his ties to Tony Rezko in uncommon detail. That’s a standard for candor by which other presidential candidates facing serious inquiries now can be judged.

  • jemerk

    Honeymoon is over!

  • sy2d

    You are in good company Scherer.

    http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/12/9/125617/069/115/671099

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    When the news of the arrest of Illinois Governor Rob Blagojevich broke, it took the RNC less than an hour to try and tie him to President-elect Barack Obama, an attempt so pitiful that even the Washington Times wasn’t buying it. Apparently the RNC didn’t bother to read the Criminal Complaint.

    Too bad for the Republicans that Blagojevich had no role in Obama’s campaign, his transition, and that the two men have never been close.

    Too bad, indeed.

  • Art Pepper

    “The President of the United States has a higher burden than just about any elected official anywhere”
    -
    Why did that stop being true in Jan. 2000 and only start becoming true now?
    -
    jemerk: “Honeymoon is over!” – This is one disadvantage of Bush checking out early.

  • Art Pepper

    Also I seem to recall the Valerie Plame case really did go to the highest levels, and nobody gave a cr@p.
    -
    Standard disclaimer: Not that I’m bitter.

  • jennofark

    Congratulations, Michael!

    Your bit here is being approvingly quoted over at Secret Agent Flowbee’s TinFoil Hattery, by the same folks who were counting on “Chief Editor Korir” of the “African Press International” (based in Norway) to blow Obama out of the water with the “whitey tape”.

    You have to hack really hard to find yourself in such esteemed company.

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    FYWP!!! No, I did NOT “already say that”.

    Congratulations, Michael!

    Your bit here is being approvingly quoted over at Secret Agent Flowbee’s TinFoil Hattery, by the same folks who were counting on “Chief Editor Korir” of the “African Press International” (based in Norway) to blow Obama out of the water with the “whitey tape”.

    You have to hack really hard to find yourself in such esteemed company.

  • Paul-no not that one

    Scherer is so cute when he trolls.

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    Local Chicago press is reporting that Rahm Emanuel reported Blago after someone approached the Obama folks about who he wanted for the Senate seat. In other words, yes, Rahm may well be the good guy here, and Obama couldn’t be cleaner.

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    Funny, when a Democrat is elected, our crusading, “liberal” media wants answers to tough questions. For the past 8 years, however, they have not been too interested in asking tough questions to Bush or his cronies. I guess there are different rules – depending on what party is in the executive office.

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    Come on, Michael, stick your tongue back in your mouth, it’s embarrassing. It doesn’t take a genius to note that the Sludges of the World will and already are pimping a fake story line to tar Obama, however tangentially. But it’s your careful avoidance of passing unequivocal judgment on those efforts that I find disturbing in your post.

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    So much for the “validation and legitimation” of the the online commentariat. Though you certainly are one heck of a medium, Mr. Scherer.

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  • wvng

    I, personally, am haunted by the fact that our entire country has been run by a corrupt criminal enterprise for the last eight years. Doesn’t appear to haunt MS, nor is it likely to haunt Bush and Cheney or any of their friends ever.
    .
    As entertaining and theatrical as the Vlad Blago story is, it pales in significance when compared to the big boys. Think about it. If any USA other than Fitz had been involved, a majority of the readers here would have expected a politically motivated prosecution by a corrupted DOJ. Anywhere in the country.
    .
    I predict there will be more tongues wagged and more ink spilt over Blago than over all of the more substantive scandals of the Bush years. BTW, I’m not minimizing Blago’s corruption – he is clearly a thug.

  • davidhelms

    Democrat administration rules now in effect!
    The President now has a higher burden.
    Higher than what?
    Higher than what this blog held the President to over the last eight years, that’s for sure.

    http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2007/01/17/running_massacre/

    The MSM…pathetically predictable.

  • effedup

    Well well…I guess BHO must have pretty huge shoulders for all these burdens; real or fake(like this one)that are being thrust on him. The media rnt satisfied with the economy and wars so now every damn thing that they can find with some link to the man they are calling it his burden!
    Shoots Man..give the bloody man some space

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    I sure hope that Blago didn’t shoot anybody in the face.

  • Paul-no not that one

    Great contrasting posts davidhelms.

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    CNN is now talking about Rezko who is “connected” to Obama. Sigh.

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    [...] Obama’s First Presidential Scandal: BLAGOGATE! December 9, 2008 Posted by Jehuda in Uncategorized. Tags: News, Politics trackback Obama isn’t even in office yet and his administration is already “burdened” with its very own “gate”. [...]

  • achmedtaliban

    Clear some things up for me. when it is a republican being discussed it is 8 years of undiluted corruption staining everything in sight, but when it’s a democrat no one has done anything wrong and it’s all just “clinton rules”, is that it? WHAT? am I discussing this with meatwad? Pull your heads out of your collective a** . THEY ARE ALL POLITICIANS, THAT MAKES EVERY FRIGGIN ONE OF THEM A CROOK. THE LETTER AFTER THE NAME DOESN’T MATTER!!!!!!! EACH AND EVERY ONE IS A PILE OF DOGCRAP!!!!!! NOT JUST D’S OR R’S ALL OF THEM….. Pray that a big meteor hits washington and gives a chance to start over.

  • stuartzechman

    Michael Scherer’s chyron:

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    “Dem IL Gov Corruption Scandal Investigation: Obama Involved?”

  • http://www.stonedeadparrot.com/?p=1308 Stone Dead Parrot » Not even president yet, and scandal is afoot…

    [...] is what happens when the press fails to properly vet a candidate, particularly one from a state with a sordid political climate like the one dominating in [...]

  • stuartzechman

    No, this is what happens when the press fails to properly vet a candidate.
    .
    …and this.
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    …and this.
    .
    …and this.
    .
    …and this.
    .
    …and, finally, this.

    No, properly vetting candidates may have something to do with examining what the practical results of their professed policy goals and ideology might mean for the immediate future of the country, and not what potential “questions” or “associations” or “scandals” or “land deals in Arkansas” can be contrived to stain the cloth of our political discourse.

  • http://blogchow.com/2008/12/09/blagogate-can-you-impeach-a-president-before-he-takes-office/ BlagoGate – Can You Impeach a President Before He Takes Office?

    [...] impeachment of Barack Obama and it’s probably a long shot that enough would come out on this BlagoGate thing to keep him from taking office. There is, however, a dark cloud hanging over Barack Obama and [...]

  • pirate wench (demwoman)

    Yarrgh!
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    I’ve no’ seen such a giant bleedin’ pile o’ steamin’ slimy sh*t since nigh on t’ th’ election! A fine fat bucket o’ stinkin innuendo-inducin’ bilge sludge, mate – ye weren’t a thinkin’ this type o’ excrement were a going t’ be let be, do ye? Th’ slime at will an’ shiver th’ consequences days be over, matey!
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    T’ th’ yard arm with ye!

  • Cliff

    Two questions:
    (1) It’s not clear how long the Obama team can leave contradictions like this on the public record, without clarifying.
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    What the f–k is this sh!t?
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    (2) What’s with all these weird handles? It looks like they link back to other blogs, so are they just blogwh0re-bots? Can the High Sheriffs make them go away, or are they another permanent feature of WordPress?

  • formerlyjames

    Here I go swimming against the current. While I agree that it is a little premature to predict a “haunting”, I don’t find MS’s observations to be totally off base.
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    It is true that Chicago politics is riddled with corruption and that Obama rose from that heap. He certainly would have an interest in the appointment of his replacement. His staff, at least, had knowledge of some shennagans.
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    When I think of how Clinton was burdened by Whitewater allegations entering office, and the ensuing witch hunt ala Kenneth Starr, I would not be surprised if the current stench didn’t enter Obama’s space.

  • http://pourmecoffee.blogspot.com pourmecoffee

    I still think “haunt” is ridiculous hyperbole, but fair is fair – Axelrod’s conflicting statement has made Michael more right than wrong and while he may not be haunted, he’s in a pickle.

  • 50fromohio

    The only reason this will “haunt Obama,” is because idiots like you will try to make something out of nothing for a story!

    This is what Blagojevich said:
    Later in the conversation, ROD BLAGOJEVICH said he knows that the President-elect wants Senate Candidate 1 for the Senate seat but “they’re not willing to give me anything except appreciation. Fuck them.”

    Michael stop being such an idiot!

  • rose83

    MS, having high standards for the President doesn’t justify having low standards for the media. And this whole post is fueled by paranoia: the Axelrod comment was in the update, not in the original post.

    It’s useful to think about the realistic worst-case scenario here, which is not Obama supervising an ebay auction for his Senate seat from his blackberry. Maybe – and this is pure unsubstantiated speculation for the sake of an argument – some mid-level staffer knew that Blagojevich wanted something illegal in return for the Senate appointment, and they didn’t tell the authorities. That is the realistic worst-case scenario. And so what? It wouldn’t derail Obama’s Presidency. After the whole WMDs thing and Plame, that’s not much more than a speeding ticket.

  • michaelscherer

    My point was not about Obama’s guilt. My point was more basic: In politics, scandal has its own gravity, drawing in even the innocent. A criminal complaint that mentions conversations with a “president-elect advisor” over the fate of the president-elect’s Senate seat, is a problem for said president-elect. Assume the best of Obama, that he and his people are totally innocent, that they have done nothing wrong. They still face the prospect of months of an ever widening investigations, of depositions, of a possible trial, that will expose untold bad deeds in the community where Obama forged his political identity. They face the danger of the gov. trying to drag down Obama or his aides, fairly or unfairly. Every question will be raised, and if left unanswered, few questions will go away. That is how he will be haunted. Either and innocent man or otherwise, the ghost of scandal won’t care. The comments assume that I am implying guilt. I am not. I am just describing the physics of political scandal.

  • wvng

    Thank you for the links, sz. But that is all in the past now. Why can’t you just let bygones be bygones and look to the future – a future filled with scurrilous, vile, venal, pathetic RW innuendo and slime directed at a good, intelligent, comptetent man who offers hope for America and the world. Oh, the joy.
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    And, MS, really great job. Because of you, there be pirates!
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    Aaaaaarrrrrrgggggghhhhhhhh!
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    Finally, pourme – I really expected a video with a pickle. Or a pickly haiku. You’re slipping dude. And, yes, this is a challenge. :-)

  • http://schmuck281.wordpress.com/ schmuck281

    Ewwww. Seems to have hit a nerve.

    Sorry folks, live by Chicago politic, die by Chicago politics.

    He has been elected. He might have a lot of people willing to overlook things, but a US Attorney isn’t one of them.

    Welcome to the big leagues.

  • wvng

    MS: “Every question will be raised, and if left unanswered, few questions will go away.” After 8 years of Bush, and vast numbers of aggressively unanswered questions that the media has allowed to slip away, I guess you are describing Clinton Rules.

  • wvng

    yes, schmuck, we would not want the USA to overlook that fact that Obama and Vlad Blago don’t like each other and had no more of a relationship than one would expect to be minimal for two people in their respective positions. It is NOT the USA pushing this $hit.
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    The nerve this has hit is the endless investigations and sliming of the last Dem President over, mostly, made up crap.

  • http://butasforme.com/2008/12/09/and-the-fun-with-blagojevich-has-just-started/ ButAsForMe! » And the fun with Blagojevich has just *started*.

    [...] Fitzmas. I don’t know what’s droller: this predictive post, or the querulous comments to it. BlagoGate: Obama’s [...]

  • Friar Tuck

    Wow, Mikey, you’ve graduated to a whole new level of toolness.
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    Toolbag?
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    Toolzilla?
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    sTool?

  • stuartzechman

    Michael Scherer:

    I really do truly get and understand that you’re neither implying nor accusing Obama of the slightest involvement or association with the Illinois Governor’s alleged statements or activities.

    I really do truly understand that you are attempting to describe the process of “X-gating” or “scandalizing” Barack Obama that inevitably accompanies any such investigation.
    _
    In an effort to help you fully describe that process, a process by which guilt is (to use a relatively apt term) smeared upon the innocent by virtue of both the tainted and the untainted names being endlessly repeated together, I’ll just complete this phrasing for you (my edits in brackets):
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    “Every [agenda-spawned, irresponsible, "when did you stop beating your wife, Senator"-style] question will be raised [by the democracy-perverting and scandal-mongering political press corps], and if left unanswered [to the satisfaction of the Spanish Inquisition], few questions will go away [from the headlines at Drudge and Politico]. That is how he will be haunted [by the right-wing noise machine and their other-driven, willing dupes at mainstream publications such as Time]. Either and innocent man or otherwise, the ghost of scandal won’t care [, and neither will the privileged people populating my useless profession who, given their record over the past 18 years, should normally be compelled by conscience to commit mass suicide]. The comments assume that I am implying guilt. I am not. I am just describing the physics of political scandal [as it is currently perpetuated by my worthless colleagues, including this vacuous rag for whom I am employed] .”
    _
    There, Michael Scherer. Isn’t that better?
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    Seriously, when will you stop avoiding any mention of you and your colleagues’ own culpability in the “physics” of this sort of stink?

  • http://wellsy.wordpress.com/2008/12/09/the-politics-of-corruption/ The Politics of Corruption « Wellsy’s World

    [...] and now-bankrupt Tribune Corp. is also involved, and Michael Sherer from TIME suggests an independent counsel may be [...]

  • Amrita

    SO basically the press is going to make this into an unnecessary distraction for Obama as he tries to basically fix American and the world. I guess that’s why he gets to call himself President. And at least Michael is honest about it.

  • shepherdwong

    “It’s not clear how long the Obama team can leave contradictions like this on the public record, without clarifying. (Tapper now updates his post, adding word that an Obama transition aide says Axelrod misspoke.)”
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    What a shock. Obama knows that Fitz has been taping ABlog since October. If he says he didn’t talk to the miscreant, well, use your head.
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    Speaking of pay-to-play, I wonder if KBR/Haliburton and Blackwater figure they got their money’s worth for helping Bush and Cheney get the big chairs. Do you think their war-profiteering and war crimes will “haunt” them the way coming from Chicago will “haunt” Obama?

  • Mr. Nice Guy

    @MS: The comments assume that I am implying guilt. I am not. I am just describing the physics of political scandal.

    Perception means more than reality, Mikey. I’m sorry, but your piece reads like misguided, partisan histrionics. If you don’t like that assessment, don’t write pieces like this. Which is not saying, “Don’t write these pieces,” but don’t write them as you did.

  • shepherdwong

    I probably need to add: although there’s no arrest to report on, regardless of the irrelevance to Obama, in the KBR/Bush relationship the quid and the pro quo are all recorded on the federal ledger.

  • rose83

    The comments assume that I am implying guilt. I am not. I am just describing the physics of political scandal.

    We get that. But unlike real physics, this stuff isn’t inevitable. There’s nothing stopping your profession from looking into real issues instead of obsessing on vague possibilities of guilt by association. And if you were actually describing the “physics of political scandal,” wouldn’t you have at least mentioned that Bush has escaped any significant consequences for his Administration’s actual – not just rumored – violations of the law? Or were you describing the physics of Democratic political scandal?

  • mexmanic

    michaelscherer: get a grip and stop wasting space. the only effect on Obama of this will be writers like you filling up their column inches breathlessly stating that it will have some (unspecified) effect on Obama. How about some journalism instead of this noise?

  • mexmanic

    michaelscherer: “That is how he will be haunted. Either and innocent man or otherwise, the ghost of scandal won’t care.” wow! so the point of your article seems to be whatever the facts, Obama will be “haunted” by this? That’s some pretty tenuous prognosticating to hang your hat on. Is this to become the latest nuggest of received wisdom from the MSM? Like John Harwood’s equally content-free video on the nytimes currently.

    I appreciate with all the good press Obama has been getting, some writers will jump on the opportunity to find a different angle, but this angle appears largely manufacturer by you (and others). Here’s hoping you are as breathless in reporting the polls in a couple when they show people don’t associate Obama with the governor’s behavior.

  • http://2106serial.wordpress.com/2008/12/10/notes-on-scandal/ Notes on scandal « Research in motion

    [...] The news would not get much national traction had it not involved the homestate of incoming president Obama. Being a state legislator at one point in his career, Obama’s opponents smell connections to Blagojevich. TIME explored that angle with the coy headline: “Can Obama Escape the Taint of Blagojevich?” Even though the prosecutor said there is no illicit connection, “for politicians it’s never good news when a top-notch prosecutor has to go out of his way to distance you from a front-page scandal.” But the prosecutor also made clear that he was not finished with the case either, that is why the “BlagoGate” would “continue to haunt Obama” as well as his state party, Michael Schere added. [...]

  • Paul-no not that one

    “I am just describing the physics of political scandal.”
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    I think, for future reference, you can assume that your readers are old enough to recall the Clinton years and all the “scandals”. Troopergate, Whitewater, and all the various investigated and cleared “scandals”.
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    Ever wonder why the media is held in such low regard? I bet you don’t.

  • kathy

    I heard someone on cable last night (can’t remember who) suggest that Blagojevich will lie about Obama and try to drag him down. It will be difficult for Obama to counteract that. At the very least, those who want to believe scandal about Obama would believe what Blagojevich said. So this may be his new “golden” thing that he thinks he can sell – in this case, to avoid jail.

  • Paul-no not that one

    kathy I think that was Spikey Isikoff. I took that more as wishful thinking than a prediction.
    That there was taping involved hurts Scherer’s and the media’s dream of making this about BHO.
    Oh well I bet there will be something new next week to set off Drudge’s siren and they can follow that.

  • scribe15

    nibblybits- its’ not Michelle Obama’s salary per se that smells- its the fact that her salary tripled when Obama became a US Senator, and subsequently, Obama secured a big earmark for her employer.

    Note to irate Obama supporters commenting here- your guy is not above scrutiny by the US Atty. Obama may be a paragon of virtue rising unscathed from the slimepit of Chicago politics. But Blago’s statements re Obama are not going to close the book on scrutiny- why should they? Don’t shoot the messenger-Michael S. just stated the obvious. This investigation is going to be a headache for Obama with more airing of dirt maybe not OF him, but of whence he came.
    Also, Blago is not going to go down quietly. He is angry, he feels aggrieved, and who knows what he will reveal about whom. Fasten your seatbelts, kids.

  • exile500

    His staff will be called on by the press to account for all their conversations with Blagojevich and his aides.

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    The same way Bush’s staff was called on by the press to explain the lack of WMD, right?

  • sgwhiteinfla

    scribe
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    There is one thing that is going unspoken here. Whether this will be or won’t be an issue for Barack Obama going forward will lie directly with the press. Either they can choose to cover this non issue relentlessly or they can actually focus on stuff that matters. And thats the point. Jake Tapper/Drudge was trying like hell to make it seem like Obama was lying yesterday when he said he didn’t meet with Blagovich because of something David Axlerod said on FoxNews some weeks ago. But if you go to the tape Axlerod himself said he hadn’t talked to PEOTUS Obama about the Senate seat and didn’t know who he preferred right before he made the comment that Obama had met with Blagojevich. If you want to see the full exchange that Tapper nor Drudge nor FoxNews themselves will show here it is.
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    http://progressillinois.com/2008/11/23/axelrod-on-fcs
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    Mind you EVERYTHING released yesterday in reference to the case against Blago shows that he was PISSED that Obama wouldn’t pony up. So imagine this for a moment, lets say a GOOD journalist reads the indictment, sees that Blago calls Obama a mutherphucker for not being willing to give him anything but appreciation in exchange for naming Valerie Jarret to the Senate seat. Subsequently Valerie Jarret removes her name from consideration and joins Obama’s staff in the White House. A reasonable person would take that to mean that Obama said if there was going to be some kind of pay to play scheme he wasn’t going to be involved and he would bring her to Washington with him. So lets go REAL worst case scenario. We find out Obama met with Blago, Obama said he wasn’t playing ball, to prove it Obama gives Jarret a job himself. So where would the “he did or he didn’t” meet with Blago register on the richter scale in that scenario to the average person? Hell most of them would think he was a hero for saying no and not playing ball. But instead the triumverate of Drudge Tapper Scherer and I am POSITIVE soon to be Johnathan Martin from Politico, have decided that Axlerod talking on FoxNews is whats MOST important about this story so I guess it is huh?
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    Now here is the relevant factor when judging if this was good journalism or not, there is a frikkin pool reporter with Obama around the clock these days, thus the nimrod Ben Smith’s running post about Obama not attending church since the election. So how hard do you think it would have been for Tapper to go back and look to see the pool reports? But now because of Drudge to Tapper to of course Scherer this looks like somebody is lying or trying to hide something. Hell Mikey could have looked up those pool reports too, but he didn’t. I mean sh!t do you think he wanted to kill his own story gifted to him by Tapper? Of course not.
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    On the other hand nobody in the media thought the outing of Valerie Plame, pretty much an act off treason if not cowardice, by Dick Cheney and Karl Rove was too much of a big deal. Nor did they think it a big deal that after Scooter Libby was thrown under the bus and was rightly tried and convicted that he never served a day in prison because Bush decided to commute his sentence. Now people are STILL pissed about Clinton pardoning Marc Rich because he was selling oil to Iran. But NOBODY is pissed that Bush and his cronies outed a woman who was tasked with helping keeping America safe. So you see the press has the power to decide what is relevant and what isn’t and if the last few weeks is any indication all of a sudden the press are going to try to find their inner Sherlock Holmes now. Just like with White Water and Jennifer Flowers in the last Democratic presidency.
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    Hey Scherer when are we going to get a post about the documented lies of the Bush administration? How about the fact that Bush is now saying that even with out the WMD evidence he still would have attacked Iraq? How about his tying Iraq to 9-11? How about the whole being greeted as liberators thing? How about the lies about firing anybody involved in the Plame outing? How about the lies about feeding the press talking points? How about the lies about the recession that he only finally acknowledged less than a week ago?
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    Oh I forgot, thats different.

  • sgwhiteinfla

    Oh and you can always go to page two comments of this very poorly constructed post to notice all of the WingNut blog track backs to this article. Hmmmm I wonder who pointed them in this direction…..Couldn’t have been Drudge could it? Nahhhhhhhhhhh

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    sg wins the thread hands down.

    Thanks.

  • wvng

    I’m sure you all have read the NYTs piece about how Obama pushing for ethics legislation making pay to play illegal in Illinois proves “he has never quite escaped the murky and insular world of Illinois politics.” Proving sgw’s point that: Whether this will be or won’t be an issue for Barack Obama going forward will lie directly with the press. Either they can choose to cover this non issue relentlessly or they can actually focus on stuff that matters.
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    The sinking feeling in my stomach tells me what they are going to do. Because they are kewl kidz, and this is all so much fun.
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    I think this would be a fine moment for Obama to come out with a speech on ethics in government. He could do that without going into any Blago related details, simply framing the speech with the ethics legislation he has worked for in Illinois and in the Senate.

  • sgwhiteinfla

    Paul Dirks
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    Thanks
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    I took my post and kind of changed it into a diary.
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    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/12/10/9748/2068/821/671418

  • wvng
  • Aaron

    Rod Blagojevich hated Barack Obama because the president-elect didn’t offer him some bribe or or quid pro quo.
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    Michael Scherer says the facts don’t matter because the press don’t let the facts get in the way of the juicy story.
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    Did I miss anything?

  • koabd

    I admit that when I heard about the Blagojevich arrest, my first concerns were the inevitable attempts to link Obama to this, as Michael notes in his blog post. I believe those on this blog who are quick to shout him down for illustrating how this can play out miss the point that this is the world we live in. There is a very angry right wing that is looking for anything to pounce on, and this – especially because Blagojevich’s arrest was a part of a larger case that included Rezko – will be one more thing for them to howl about and investigate.

    So, I don’t fault Michael for pointing this out. I think he’s given everyone here fair warning that this will most likely be a pain in Obama’s rear for precisely the reasons he lays out: people will create an appearance of impropriety and guilt by association. Keep in mind that there are many who still won’t let go of the fact that he was a congregant in a church led by a guy named Wright.

  • sgwhiteinfla

    koabd
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    What you are missing is that Scherer is a PART of the angry right wing.
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    Look at this sentence and then tell me what impression you think Scherer was trying to evoke.
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    ABC’s Jake Tapper illustrates how this game is played
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    Do you equate playing games to honesty? Because most people I know do not.

  • http://gordonunleashed.com/blog/2008/12/10/updates-from-the-blagojevich-front/ GordonUnleashed » Blog Archive » Updates from the Blagojevich front

    [...] Time is already calling this scandal [...]

  • koabd

    sg:
    To my mind, Michael’s anger or the honesty of the charges is immaterial. This is all about creating perceptions that can disrupt the business of the President at this point in time. Being indignant about Michael’s post will not put the genie back in the bottle. So, naturally, my concern is that this will play out as Michael envisions because Obama’s had to deal with a lot of guilt by association in his two years on the campaign trail (Louis Farrakhan, Jeremiah Wright, Rezko) with the stakes being higher this time because he’s about to be sworn in as President.

  • http://goodtimepolitics.com/2008/12/10/illinois-first-lady-patricia-blagojevich-obama-antonin-tony-rezko/ Illinois First Lady Patricia Blagojevich, Obama, Antonin “Tony” Rezko « Goodtimepolitics

    [...] That’s the reason that the fall of Gov. Rod Blagojevich is going to continue to haunt Obama, not to mention Chicago’s Democratic establishment where he built his roots. The President of the United States has a higher burden than just about any elected official anywhere. His staff will be called on by the press to account for all their conversations with Blagojevich and his aides. Obama will have to explain what he knew about these discussions. The bit players in the complaint, like the unnamed Senate Candidate 1 and Senate Candidate 5, will have to come forward and explain their involvement. If the investigation continues into next year, which seems likely, there may even be calls for the appointment of something like an independent counsel at the Justice Department to avoid any hint of political interference. Obama’s staff and political allies may be forced to get attorneys of their own. SOURCE: BlagoGate: Obama’s Burden [...]

  • smartmemes

    Long story short, claims that this may “haunt” or “taint” Obama aren’t objective; it’s fair to see them as attempts to create exactly that circumstance. Corruption in Illinois is bipartisan, and there’s considerable reason to speculate about the identity of other parties in the FBI affidavit (notably “Senate Candidate 5″), but Obama himself seems to be thoroughly in the clear.

  • http://www.hillaryis44.org/?p=808 Hillary Is 44 » Blog Archive » Time For A Special Prosecutor To Investigate Barack Obama, Part I

    [...] said at his news conference that the investigation is not near complete and that he needs “to find out what happened.” As the appropriately named Swampland writes: At a press avail this afternoon, Obama said, [...]

  • sgwhiteinfla

    koabd
    .
    Who creates perceptions?

  • sgwhiteinfla

    Note the 3 newest track backs to what I am sure more wingnut blogs and I think that helps to prove my point.

  • koabd

    sg:
    Who creates perceptions? Well, I’m sure you’ll want me to say “the media” or, even more insidious, “the mainstream media,” but how you perceive something ultimately comes from your worldview. If I gave you a straight telling of the facts of the case and someone to the right of you the same telling, you would have different perceptions as to what the story meant. Do I think that Obama is guilty of anything untoward? No. But then again, I’m not inclined to think all politicans are crooks, nor am I inclined to believe that all Illinois politicians are crooks. But there are people inclined to believe as such. Can “the mainstream media” shape a story? Yes. But whether or not you accept that shaping is based upon how you view the source and the subject of the story.

  • http://762justice.com/2008/12/10/guess-whose-senate-seat-was-for-sale-in-illinois-part-1/ Guess Whose Senate Seat Was For Sale In Illinois? (Part 1) : “7.62mm Justice” ™

    [...] There is zero evidence so far that Obama or his team had the slightest interest in playing ball: At a news conference just now, U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald made very clear that he had uncovered no evidence of misbehavior on the part of Barack Obama. [...]

  • http://cinie.wordpress.com/2008/12/12/whats-next-levitation/ What’s Next, Levitation? « Cinie’s World

    [...] The Obamessiah already walks on water, and if the mainstream media has it’s way, after Blagogate blows over, if it does, the Teflon TelePrompTer Reader will probably ascend to Washington in a [...]

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