Transition: It Does An Obama Body Good

What would be hilarious is if Obama is meeting with Cabinet candidates at the gym. lol

MS seems rather good at the stalkerish list of details.
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…remember, 500 feet at all times!

SG — from your lips…

Hammerlock I’m think MS is really good at cut and paste. It’s objectivity, reporting and analysis that I call into question.

What Dee said

This is the definition of a non-story. Thank you for wasting the 83 seconds of my life it took to read that. I will never get that time back now. I hope you burn in the ninth circle of hell where Judas’ giant head will chew you in its mouth for all eternity.

MS,

Your prior post included a bunch of important and interesting stuff. Certainly how Mukasey feels about wiretapping and how the Army feels about accountability are important topics that require diligence to uncover.

This one……eh – not so much!

Sean…there’s always the Evelyn Wood speed reading course. You might have only wasted 38 seconds.

Hey Mike, maybe next you could tell us about his hair stylist YOU FREAKING STALKER.

Off-topic, but funny:
“I would like to take a hammer and start breaking bones in Frank (Luntz’s) arms.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/20/mccain-pollster-explains_n_145139.html
I don’t have a say in this, but for the record I would waive my anti-torture stance and allow it.

Can I just say that this motorcade thing is absurd?
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I know that they get really freaked out when a president acts predictably. But jeez.
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People talk about the stresses of the presidency. But it is also one job where you completely control your schedule. You work from home. You’ve surrounded by staff, personal and professional. You don’t have to do anything yourself. He’s gonna get to know his kids better than would have been possible as a Senator from Illinois.
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It also doesn’t have to be a time-consuming job. the nature of the people who get elected makes that unlikely in the event. And the president spends a ridiculous amount of time gripping and grinning. Obama’s funding model may cut down on that….

Excellent important reporting MS, thanks.

I hope he’s not one of those guys who wears the same, smelly stuff for a week at a time. They can stink up the whole lockerroom.
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See if you can get a lead on that angle.

I like pizza!

sgw: This one’s for you.
http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_plank/archive/2008/11/20/wooing-mccain.aspx
Lieberman and Napolitano as flowers and candy for soothing McCain.

I think the first 3 words after “Tuesday” could’ve summed it up MS.

On the Napolitano thing: Curses! She’s the best thing Arizona has going for it right now!

nibbly
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The Rethugs have spent the last week excoriating McCain. Why woo a mofo who has no where to go anyway? I mean it would be like giving a chairmanship to a mofo that nobody wants in their party…..ooops

pourme
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I would pay to see Luntz get hammered too but the truth is Luntz was right this time and that guy is still floating in fantasy world that the loss had nothing to do with conservative ideas or McCain’s own behaviour. I really hope they continue with that meme for say the next 16 years. By that time I am pretty sure they will disband when they have less than 5 people in the Senate and less than 10 in the House

Open thread. File under: This is why I hate cops:
Officers accused of beating NFL player’s father
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/6122212.html

cinci
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Keeping in mind that I have been stopped plenty of times for DWB, I am having a hard time believing the story as told by Quannel X. Not that I don’t think abuse might have happened. But when you say a cop out of the blue just announces that he is going to phuck with you because your son, who by the way is a prominent NFL football player that has made the probowl before, went to school with him I have a hard time just believing that. It doesn’t pass the smell test. And whats bad about that is some people will feel like if that part of the story was a lie then all the rest of it is a lie. I hope Mr. Driver gets better and I hope justice is severed on those officers but I don’t think the family spokesman is doing them any favors

I guess Obama would rather have McCain and the whatever moderates he can pull (Graham, Snowe, Collins, etc) than to leave him bitter in the Senate. If at the same time, Obama can paint himself as a conciliator and the extreme right as recalcitrant haters, I guess that would benefit him. He’s helped in this measure by guys like Pence and Shelby who are pulling what’s left of the Repubs further to the right.
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Is this some effort to marginalize Repubs into a permanent fringe minority?
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I admit this kind of gamesmanship is beyond my ken. I still think that Obama made a big mistake regarding Lieberman. But the timing of all this can’t really be denied.
Monday: high-profile meeting with McCain (and Graham)
Tuesday: Lieberman is saved with not even a slap on the wrist. Crows about it.
Wednesday: McCain starts PAC for 2010 Senate run. Later that evening, Napolitano name is leaked for Homeland Security.
Thursday: McCain releases press release praising the Napolitano choice.

sgwhiteinfla, the man left in perfect condition, he arrived in a coma…if you can paint me a picture where the cops didn’t cross a big line I’m all ears. The physical condition of the man is not in question.

…and Rich Sanchez is on the story.

cinci
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Read my post again. Notice where I NEVER said he wasn’t abused. I question the story as it was told by QX and I will be willing to bet you that it DIDN’T go down exactly the way he said. And THAT will impact negatively on the investigating and prosecution of the case

Oh, so your only concern is about the brother’s story….you a cop?

…cuz I thought you were a military Sgt.

cinci
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I am a muthaphucking realist who is tired of cops getting away with bullsh!t perpetrated on black people because dumbazz “militants” make up stories to make them look worse than is necessary to get a conviction. Thats who the phuck I am

and I am not military nor a sgt either. the sg is for my first two initials

Just asking…chill. Bottom line: if you can paint a picture where a guy is arrested for outstanding traffic tickets and shows up at the jail in critical condition, again, I’m all ears. Something happened and it’s not this guys fault. I don’t care if he called them names or what…this is unacceptable.

Cincy its agreed — and I think SG makes it clear that he believe the cops abused the victim. Its just that in the process of trying to get a conviction if the cops can prove that the story about the beating was caused because of a vendetta that goes back to them attending to school with the son — they they would’ve given the jury an excuse to dismiss the rest of the testimony and that’s just the way it works in court. If they catch you in one lie they discount everything else you say.

I meant to add the story was untrue.

cinci
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What you don’t seem to be getting is that I agree with you on that. i don’t know how to say it much clearer than I already have. My concern comes from when the spokesman gives a wild story that makes people skeptical to begin with when in point of fact the truth is even had Mr Driver protested AT ALL he didnt deserve to be beaten in that manner. And my ONLY focus is those officers getting whats coming to them. And like I said I dont think that spokesman did his family any favors. Even if the story went down EXACTLY the way he said, which isn’t likely, it would have been much better to make the focus the beating of a 58 year old man who had never been in trouble, not the hard to believe narrative.

“they would’ve given the jury an excuse to dismiss the rest of the testimony and that’s just the way it works in court.”
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All they need is an all white jury…seems to work most of the time.
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sgwhiteinfla, I get the ‘boy who cried wolf’ concerns you have, but I didn’t hear anything in his story that was that wild. Cops taking personal revenge for something that happened in high school? I personally know of that very thing happening to someone I know…I don’t doubt that angle at all. Taking someone behind an alley and having a go? Again, personal experience tells me this is certainly possible. Haven’t you ever seen my psychological profile of the personality types most attracted to law enforcement jobs? It’s all about high school in many ways.

…oh and I doubt after this happened, that the brother was focused on anything other than what just happened to his family member and not on larger issues at hand.

cinci
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The difference between your friend and this situation I would bet my quickly dwindling 401k is that your friend wasnt a prominent NFL player. Remember, the whole encounter was supposedly over Donald Driver not his father. So it would be hard to believe that he started an argument over Donald Driver but didnt know he was a pro bowl reciever. Now he might have just been the dumbest sob on the planet but its hard to take the next step in the story that knowing that Mr Driver is the father of a very high profile NFL player he announced to the world that he was targeting him BECAUSE of said football player and then proceeded to whup his azz. Now could it have happened that way? I guess if you are one of those people who say anything is possible, yes. But it seems more likely to me that they did target Mr Driver over something innocuous and then decided they would teach him a lesson because of some percieved “disrespect” Now the end result is still the same, the man is in the hospital. But in order to prosecute a cop which is just about the hardest thing in the world to do, the story about how it got ot that point matters! And like Dee pointed out its the easiest play in the book for the police to find one lie in the narrative and then claim that the one lie is enough for them to dismiss the case in total. And in that event more bad cops get off scott free. And thats why I think the spokesman did a bad job.

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/

Mikey, please, do us all a favor and embrace your true calling.

You hacktacular pile of fooey

If Time is looking to trim staff I have a suggestion.

Ok, I get where we break off…you’re one of those people who think people are reason based beings. I disagree. The story has nothing to do w/ the prosecution of the cop…messed up stories got NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. What’s relevant is that DA’s don’t prosecute cops if they want cops to play ball w/ them, and that tends to be important to them. If that fails, there’s always the all white jury to fall back on. So explain to me, using reason, this cops behavior:

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Turns off the camera, then turns it on…looks pretty bad. A reasonable person in the cops situation would likely see how bad it would look to turn off that camera….but he did.

cinci
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Right now you are just ranting about a whole lotta nothing. Nothing about what I said comes close to what you are talking. That makes it a lot easier for me to ignore you.