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Things That Matter

Well, I’m back from a long, cloud-ridden, sleep-clotted weekend holiday and ready to blog. But there’s a problem: the things that seem to be exercising the residents of Blogadelphia this week don’t seem very exciting to me. You want my opinion on Hillary for Secretary of State? Don’t have much of one. She’d be fine–I’ve traveled with her overseas and she’s a terrific ambassador–but I’d also be thrilled to see her stay in the Senate and help build a consensus on health care and other issues.

You want to hear me expatiate on the plethora of Clintonians filling the Obama Administration? Don’t have much of an opinion about that, either. I mean, most administrations are filled with experts who served in previous administrations. The Bush Cabinet dated back to the Ford White House (and to the previous Bush Cabinet). The Clintonites Obama has picked, or is considering, are excellent. I haven’t heard a rumor yet that alarmed me as much as the prospect of Janet Reno (D-Mars) as Attorney General during the Clinton Administration; there hasn’t been a name raised or a position offered that seems implausible so far. And the quiet, disciplined way that Obama has gone about this transition seems nothing but good. I can honestly say that he’s probably a much better person than I am: His tolerance for Joe Lieberman–who questioned his patriotism–is saintly (and also smart politics).

Indeed, the only thing I have a really strong blogometric opinion about today is the letter Ayman Al-Zawahiri has issued, in which the terrorist calls the President-elect a “house slave.” If this isn’t disinformation–and it would be nice if our intelligence community were clever enough to have forged the statement–it is fabulous news for reasons most succinctly described by Richard Clarke:

“Obama’s election has taken the wind out of al Qaeda’s sails in much of the Islamic world because it demonstrates America’s renewed commitment to multiculturalism, human rights, and international law. It also proves to many that democracy can work and overcome ethnic, sectarian, or racial barriers.

“Obama’s commitment to withdraw from Iraq also takes away an al Qaeda propaganda tenet: that the U.S. seeks to occupy oil rich Arab lands. His commitment to defeat al Qaeda and the Taliban in Afghanistan also challenges their plans. Most of all, by returning to American values the world admires, Obama sets al Qaeda back enormously in the battle of ideas, the ideological struggle which determines whether al Qaeda will continue to have significant support in the Islamic world.”

The Zawahiri letter is one of the first real indications we have of the new international state of affairs (the Ahmadinejad letter of congratulations may also have been a good sign, but was leavened by the author’s lack of real power and the fact that he’s running for reelection). The terrorists are now exposed as racists, on top of everything else. We have many miles to go in Afghanistan and the northern and western precincts of Pakistan, and more blood to shed–and innumerable ways to screw up, since no one has ever gotten Afghanistan right–but the wind seems to have shifted slightly and is now at our back.

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  • Andy from MA

    Joe, perhaps you’ll blog about this: Does it matter we have not seen nor heard from Osama bin Laden?

  • Sean DeCoursey forgot his password

    The letter, especially the line about “if i die, continue on the path” most likely indicates OBL is dead, dead, dead.

  • Dee in Columbia MD

    I agree with you Joe. I often thought one of the problems for the US is the strain of white supremacy that is often unintended, unconscious, but nevertheless visible to those who are not white, in the rest of the world. One of the reasons that Obama is so promising is that they understand they might not always agree with Obama but they draw comfort from the idea that it is not out of a sense of racial superiority. — Perhaps this is why the idea that merely talking to the US is a privilege is so counterintuitive to the new president-elect.

  • http://www.ghostnote.com Cookie Puss

    Grown ups will soon be in charge again. Hooray.

  • fourlegsgood

    In other words, like me, U haz a hope!
    .
    sorry. (I do agree with you-Bush was a convenient boogey man for them, and now he’s gone, so sad for Al Queda! so happy for us and the rest of the civilized world)

  • Joe Bftsplk

    Wait, wait — I thought the terrorists wanted Obama to win!

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  • 53_3

    I’m going to guess that OBL wants to get Obama mad so he can blow his cool and make the same mistakes the GOP made.
    .
    Didn’t OBL watch the campaign?
    .
    It seems that Obama is made of sterner stuff…

  • 53_3

    I’m going to put Al-Zawahiri right up there next to Limbaugh, Hannity, and O’Reilly.
    .
    They are all, collectively and serially, ignorant about race in the US…

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    I’m starting to get worried. I’m finding myself more and more in accord with the things that Joe Klein writes. I have to wonder if I was a closet centrist all along and was only radicalized to the point of DFHdom by the Bush administration?

    I guess I’ll have to wait a few months before I decide which bucket to settle into…..

  • ivb3016

    Very interesting, Joe. I keep thinking about the serious overtures that Iran made to the US via Switzerland before the Iraq invasion that was blown off by the Bush arrogance. I really feel that the Iranian leaders think an alliance with us is in their interests.

  • http://www.inworldstudios.com jayackroyd

    Damn.
    .
    I’m heading to the bathtub with a dull knife.
    .
    I agree with everything Joe says here.

  • exile500

    “I’m starting to get worried. I’m finding myself more and more in accord with the things that Joe Klein writes. I have to wonder if I was a closet centrist all along and was only radicalized to the point of DFHdom by the Bush administration?”
    .
    I harbor the same fear. If I start railing about teacher’s unions, I want one of you to shoot me.

  • cincinnatus est exterminata!

    Joe won’t just come out and say that the DFH’s were right, but if he keeps writing like this he won’t have to, but it would be nice Joe.
    .
    It still bothers me that Leiberman gave the DSCC 250 thousand 2 months ago and now he keeps his gavel. Makes me feel like all the talk about the possibility of losing his chairmanship was just a dog and pony show.

  • rustyreturns

    # jayackroyd Says:
    Wednesday, November 19, 2008 at 4:15 pm
    “Damn. I’m heading to the bathtub with a dull knife. I agree with everything Joe says here.”

    Would you mind leaving bread crumbs behind as a way for others on here, with similar views as yours, to find their way to your bathtub as well?
    .
    Maybe then we can get back to the days we had pre-ObamaMania.
    .
    AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

  • wvng

    “I have to wonder if I was a closet centrist all along and was only radicalized to the point of DFHdom by the Bush administration?” I know that happened to me. I was utterly non partisan before Bush. Heck, my father-in-law was a lifelong extreme RWinger working for Amoco. Bush made him rethink his entire worldview very early on. He voted for Obama.

  • pintortwo

    Thank you Joe. Obama’s victory is a blow to Amhadinejad’s re-election bid and to al Qaeda’s propaganda machine.
    .
    .
    Slightly OT, is anyone feeling uncomfortable with Obama’s plan to increase troop-levels in Afghanistan? I’m not convinced that more troops will be more effective. It seems to me that we should concentrate on 1: infrastructure (water, electricity, schools, roads, communications…) that would give people options/opportunity and 2: supporting local police forces as they gather intelligence to combat terrorism.
    .
    Perhaps I’ve been trained over the past few years, but more troops makes me think about permanent bases and ulterior motives.

  • http://derekg.wordpress.com/ Derek

    Competence is one thing that just about everyone in the country wants at this point, other than the Limbaugh/Hannity wing of the Republican Party. It is the transcendental ideal that all liberals, and moderate Republicans can agree on. Obama seemed to be embracing competence, surely a long-term winning strategy, until he threw his support behind Lieberman. Lieberman not only accused Obama of being a terrorist loving, anti-American, he was really bad at his job. However, Lieberman cannot be removed for incompetence. It is only the angry Left, bent on revenge, who want him out.

  • donovong

    Welcome back, Mr. Klein.

    Now. let’s hope that Scherer takes a long, long leave of absence to overcome his despondence over McBush’s loss.

  • http://www.inworldstudios.com jayackroyd

    rusty
    .
    {laughing. pointing.]
    .
    The irony of this is that they think they can counter the laughing and pointing by imitating the laughing.
    ,
    But, well look: “Abstinence only education prevents teen pregnancy more effectively than condoms do.”
    .
    “Global warming? The jury is still out on human causes.”?\
    .
    “drill baby drill. That’ll fill up those SUVs”
    .
    “You there, you betcha, there.”
    .
    “The economy is sound, and strong.”
    .
    “People want to put some food on their families.”
    .
    It’s like a frickin’ laff riot.

  • Cliff

    the Ahmadinejad letter of congratulations may also have been a good sign, but was leavened by the author’s lack of real power and the fact that he’s running for reelection
    .
    I’ve said this before, but I doubt that Ahmedinejad’s letter did anything to help the Right’s opinion of Obama.
    Al Qaeda calling him a race traitor, however, is a bonus. It’s like with Rusty – anything that pisses Rusty off sees an immediate increase in value in my eyes.

  • pintortwo

    Cliff- Who care’s about the right’s opinion of Obama? -it’s already not good. Ahmadinejad’s letter indicates that Obama’s victory will strengthen moderate voices in Iran. Perhaps ivb3016 (@ 4:14) is right.

  • Cliff

    Who care’s about the right’s opinion of Obama? -it’s already not good.
    .
    I care. And here’s why:
    People keep touting bipartisanship and reaching across the aisle. Obama has said that he would be president for everyone, not just people on one side of the political spectrum or the other.
    So the notion of his relationship with the Right has been bound up in his campaign from the very beginning.
    .
    Then, too, I see the Right’s opinion of Obama as an index for whether or not they’re coming around to being able to relate to the rest of the nation again. ie, if they snap and snarl for the next four years, then I can expect entrenched Culture War for a while yet.
    Now I’m not saying I expect Hannity and Coulter to throw a birthday party for Obama or anything. But I am curious to see if any of them start backing away from the clusterf–k of their ideology.
    .
    But I’m probably making a mountain out of a molehill. I certainly haven’t seen any reaction about Ahmedinejad’s letter yet.

  • pintortwo

    Cliff- point well taken.
    A better way to say what I said earlier would be: anyone who will point to Ahmadinejad’s letter as a negative for Obama already has his/her mind made up. Their opinion is important but we can’t change it now- that would only happen after a period of effective governance by Obama. Therefore, for today, focus on the positive aspects of the letter.
    But it was much easier for me to say “who cares”.

  • http://elvisberg.wordpress.com Elvis Elvisberg

    I can honestly say that he’s probably a much better person than I am: His tolerance for Joe Lieberman–who questioned his patriotism–is saintly (and also smart politics).
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    Perfect, Joe.
    -
    And agreed on the boringness of the Clinton saga. I read about 25 words of Maureen Dowd’s column today, had to give it up. Giving her the excuse to continue to spell out the psychodrama that exists in her head regarding the Clintons is one of the most concrete drawbacks of that nomination.
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    Obama’s election allows the world to give us a second chance. We are lucky. We’ve got to act like grown-ups. All indications are positive.

  • Cliff

    Their opinion is important but we can’t change it now- that would only happen after a period of effective governance by Obama. Therefore, for today, focus on the positive aspects of the letter.
    .
    Agreed.

  • carylsfoster

    Them be fighting words of the worse kind:

    Barack Obama has been called a lot of things but “House Negro” has never been one of them until today. For the first time in a very long time, the leaders of al-Qaeda and more importantly Osama bin Laden himself are about to be seriously tracked down and just as likely be killed as captured.

    And ironically it will occur on the basis of a presidential mandate soon to be issued by an American whose father was an African Muslim and whose middle name is Hussein.

    Make that much more likely to killed than captured given this stupid naive al-Qaeda attempt to insult our new President.

    Sometimes it is better to just lay low and remain hidden in one’s cave without bringing any unnecessary public attention to one’s self……a life lesson al-Qaeda has fortunately forgotten and much sooner than later to be paid for with their lives.

  • hickoryduck

    The funny thing about Zawahiri calling Obama the complete opposite of Malcolm X, is that a few nutso right-wing bloggers have driven themselves even further into a psychotic rage trying to prove that Malcolm X is in fact Obama’s real father. Just like Darth Vader.

  • hoping4changein2012

    Well, maybe we can survive the next for years. Why do you think they were pulling for Obama to win the election? Could it be that they were stopped by the GOP, and know that the next president is going to be a push over. I put no hope in mortal man, as no matter who is the president, he is not exempt from making mistakes. I hope is that the next administration will give in to those individuals who cannot stand the ideas of freedom.

  • hoping4changein2012

    Correction: My hope is that the next administration will not give in to those individuals who cannot stand what freedom is all about.

  • http://elvisberg.wordpress.com Elvis Elvisberg

    My hope is that the next administration will not give in to those individuals who cannot stand what freedom is all about.
    -
    Well, I can’t really see a primary challenge to Pres. Obama, and I can’t see a Republican who will prosecute Bush, Cheney, Yoo, Addington, and the rest of the torturers and human rights violators. So I think you might be out of luck.

  • calkate

    Pintortwo: “…is anyone feeling uncomfortable with Obama’s plan to increase troop-levels in Afghanistan?”
    .
    I certainly am. Anyone who has read almost anything at all about Afghanistan ought to be uncomfortable – the must-read is Rory Stewart’s “The Places In Between,” which drives home the hopelessness of imposing anything on Afghanis. That said, Afghanistan under the Taliban was truly appalling, for them and for us, and I have a sense that we have to try SOMETHING before walking away and giving it back to them. There is no point in building those roads and schools without trying to create some level of security for the girls who will walk the roads to the schools. I’ve wondered – what if we outbid the Taliban for the poppy crops?

  • calkate

    ” The Bush Cabinet dated back to the Ford White House (and to the previous Bush Cabinet).”

    I don’t get the whinging about Clinton people in the Obama administration. If you were a Democrat and wanted to work in government 8 years ago, presumably you wanted to work in the Clinton administration. How can Obama avoid them? Look for Carter people? Or Johnson’s? Would really, really old guys be change?
    .
    If, heaven forbid, the Republicans get the White House back in 4 or 8 years, it’ll be interesting to see how Republicans avoid picking people who have worked in a Bush administration. Because I am sure they will not be running as a Bush restoration.

  • formerlyjames

    “Obama’s election has taken the wind out of al Qaeda’s sails in much of the Islamic world because it demonstrates America’s renewed commitment to multiculturalism, human rights, and international law.

    Not that Islam has any claim to care about multiculturalism, human rights, or any law other than their own, but I ask what religion does care about these things?

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    btw: “sleep-clotted.” Nice.

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  • vwcat

    I don’t get why the pundits and press are so whiney about the people Obama is picking.
    The democrats have had ONE democratic administration in 30 years. Where the hell is he suppose to find anyone with even the minimum of experience that is under the age of 70 if not from the Clinton’s 8 years of being in the white house.
    That is the only place to find people.
    Get over it press!
    Do they really expect obama to go into the white house ala Jimmy Carter with all rookies? How’d that work out?
    With the mulitude of serious problems facing this country this is no time for Obama to experiment with all new rookie faces.
    Besides, Change does not mean rookies.
    It means a change from immature baby boomers and their stupid culture wars and wedge issues. Change from incompetent and crooked cronies. Change from torture and wars. change from a gov. that doesn’t care.
    It means competent gov. that is for the people and the good of the country. Public service over greed and ideology. The end of big vs small government and more about competent and caring government. Streamlining and modernizing. Having the best and brightest work for the good of the people and the people taking part in their government.
    That is what change mean.
    I wish the stupid brain dead media would get over the conventional wisdom and think. think about what Obama has been saying for 2 years and what he is really saying.
    And quit being such babies.

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  • zacca

    Well said,Mr.Klein.

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  • dorywilson13

    Joe,

    Take a vacation more often! Seriously, you’re right on points.

    Obama’s cabinet picks (the latest presumably Napolitano at Homeland Security): doesn’t competence feel soooo good?

  • jagadgurusriji

    My hope is that the next administration will not give in to those individuals who cannot stand what freedom is all about.

    Good luck.

  • hold2file

    There was about $288 billion in wholesale heroin produced in Afghanistan in 2007. (The number came from muliplying the crop production times the wholesale street price. You can Google the numbers yourself.)

    That pays for a lot of insurgent weapons.

    You can’t build infrastructure (roads, schools, power plants) without security.

    We do need to buy up (and destroy) the heroin crop. It might cost about $30 billion for the first year, but it would shut down Al-Queda in Afghanistan almost completely. Don’t be surprised, however, that it will take years to bring “civilization” to Afghanistan. It took Moses 40 years of wandering in the desert to do something similar.

  • http://www.new.facebook.com/profile.php?id=27210707 Jesse

    I’m hardly your knuckle-draggin type, and after 9/11 I had more apprehensions about America’s reactionary behavior than about substantial security threats to the nation (*AHCHOO-Iraq was inevitable-OOO*). But any more I believe when these cowardly, flow-stone, self-important “revolutionaries” send us anonymous video messages, we should really be sending them video responses.

    I’m just tired of the cliche’d stock footage of dude’s playing on monkey bars in the desert, or a line of guys in ski masks round-housing a ping pong paddle—as if the counterattack to an American invasion would involve issuing millions of ping-pong paddles as our last line of civilian defense.

    Any takers?

    Hey Osama! Ya muthah!!

  • dueconsideration

    I thought your analysis that Obama’s election represents a massive threat to Al-Qaeda psychologically was absolutely correct. The Arab world, as a vast generalism, appears to feel broadly repressed by the more wealthy more white more Christian world, which they perceive to be lead by America. Obama’s color and background make that a more difficult view to sustain.

    The only path to sustaining this point of view would be to discredit Obama – hence the houseslave or lapdog epithet.

  • http://relationary.wordpress.com/ grant czerepak

    I’m looking forward to real issues identified and intelligently handled for the next four years.

  • stephanadams

    Zawahiri’s message about President-elect Obama was inevitable. AQ’s world-view has always been that the US and the west are bad. This will continue until they get what they want which is the restoration of the Caliphate. The policies of the Bush administration made it very easy for AQ’s propaganda machine to feed that narrative that the west is the root of all the evil that is oppressing the Muslim people of the world. Had Sen. McCain had been elected then AQ would have had an easier time linking McCain to their basic narrative, this would be because of some of the similarities in the policies of McCain and Bush. With Obama the end state will ultimately be the same; tie his policies to the basic narrative that the west is oppressing Muslims. It started out with the character assassination that Obama is a “House Negro” and a Jew and really no different then President Bush. It will continue as Pres. Obama outlines his policies for dealing with Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan and Gitmo. Nothing short of complete withdraw from the above three countries and release of all AQ operatives will satisfy AQ’s demands. Even if that were done they would find a different line of attack tied to US corporations or our support to Israel. The election of President Obama has made their job tougher because it appears that most of the world including moderate Muslims seems willing to give the US the benefit of the doubt in the hopes that we will strive to improve our relationship with them rather than unilaterally act for the sole purpose of promoting US national interests.

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