Operation Whiny Prat

It begins.

Operation Leper sounds like the least fun operation ever. Are there any other operations to choose from, maybe some with fun girls?

“So far, Steve Schmit, Mike Murphy, and Nichole Wallace are all on the leper list.”
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This is going to be so fun, nice party you have there Murph.

Wow. The thoroughly unqualified community organizer got 98% of the black vote in Texas. America’s Team? A whopping 1%. Racism, anyone? http://blogs.chron.com/txpotomac/2008/11/cnn_exit_polls_how_mccain_corn.htm.

Didn’t Erick Erickson from Redstate marry Monica Goodling, the prat of “I didn’t mean to do anything illegal” fame? It just doesn’t get any better than Erickson, Goodling and Palin.

Ana, I am glad to see you have moved on from competing with Michelle Malkin for the right to print oppo research generated by the McCain campaign. I can only imagine that you shudder at the memories.

Instead of “we are all Joe the Plumber” I am expecting them to adopt the marketing position “We are all going rogue.”

Enemies list how Nixonian!

I encourage everyone to encourage the Republicans to clean their party out and eliminate the RINOs. That way they can hold their next convention in a phone booth in downtown Selma, Alabama. No wait, Hank Williams Jr. is too fat to fit into a phone booth… dang that means no music at their 2012 convention.

texte:

Hey troll, gimme your lunch money… punk!

David Frum deleted his entries on the ongoing conservative knife fight earlier today. Too much fun.

Whoops. Now they’re gone from Google. They were there a second ago…

JJ, please describle Frum’s posts for posterity. Thanks.

These?

Why must everything be a “war” with these people? Are they just genetically incapable of rational reflection and reasonable discourse?

Yeah those. Weird. They showed up again. They were deleted a second ago.

Governor Palin should not be allowed to drag the GOP further down the scale of sanity. ………..

http://thefiresidepost.com/2008/11/06/palin-didnt-know-africas-a-continent/

I’m making the popcorn.

AMC: Can someone at Time PLEASE fix the comment formatting.
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Time.com is a major media company that has obviously spent considerable time, money, and effort into making sure that its content and the advertisers’ content is delivered properly. It is rather insulting that the one portion of the website that is reader-generated (i.e. the blog comments) is now less functional than Blogger circa 2001.

Fred Barnes had to eat a Nicole Wallace cooked Crow Casserole. Maybe Frum is hungry, too.

Fred Barnes had to eat a Nicole Wallace cooked Crow Pie. Maybe Frum is hungry, too.

The entire wingnut brigade in a remake of “Scanners!” Heads asplodin’ everywhere! Happy happy joy joy.
Pretty soon this will reach the “Eisenhower was a Commie stooge” stage.

Did anyone seriously think these morons were going to go away? I didn’t think so . It’s like yesterday with all the right pundits proclaiming us a center-right nation. Upon what fantasy was THAT based??? First, they warn us all we’re in danger of voting for the most liberal Senator EVER, that a vote for him is a vote for SOCIALISM (which, last time I checked was a pretty left-ish financial philosophy). Then, when he wins in a landslide, they’re telling us everyone who voted for said most liberal Senator ever is center-right?
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Really, though, I thought, after about 5 minutes of attempting to pay attention to their rantings, who gives a flying F**k what they’re saying?
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They’re melting….they’re mellllllllllllllting! What a world, what a world !

So texte showed up. Nice to see you. For your inner sanity try to let yourself see things from the majority perspective for just the next 6 months or so. The thoroughly qualified community organizer organized a larger share of the American community than your guys. Lyndon Baines Johnson got 100% of the African American vote in 1964. Barack must have done something wrong. Sorry, not a racist thing.

Welcome back, texte!
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If you’re asking whether the GOP is racist, and that’s why it can’t get the black vote – yes!

Poor Mitt Romney. He spent millions of how own jack to become the odds-on third place candidate for President of Appalachia. Laughing at you, Mittens.

pirate wench: how does CALIFORNIA voting to ban gay marriage fit into your thesis that the electorate is not slightly right of center?

pirate wench (I’ll try again): how does California voting to ban gay marriage fit into your thesis that the american electorate is not slightly right of center?

pirate wench (maybe the third time is the charm): how does California’s vote on Prop 8 fit into your thesis that the american electorate is not slightly right of center?

Operation Leper. Wow, thats so awesome. The onion couldn’t have even predicted this because their stories have to be slightly based in non-absurd reality to be believable enough to be funny.
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These guys have out-absurded themselves. Truly a remarkable feat.

Impeach Obama!!

What happened to all that post-2000 recount talk about uniting behind the duly elected leader of this nation, the Commander-in-Chief? Or after 2004?
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Oh yeah, I forgot, only liberals are supposed to play nice. Because “G-d is on their side” the textes and Michelle Malkins of this world never stop “fighting a war” AGAINST THEIR OWN PEOPLE. I’d call that something less than patriotic.

“how does California’s vote on Prop 8 fit into your thesis that the american electorate is not slightly right of center?”
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Oh fun, arguement by ballot measure.
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Michigan approved a measure to permit embryonic stem cell research.
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Washington state became the second state, joining Oregon, to legalize physician-assisted suicide for the terminally ill.
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. Massachusetts rejected a proposal to eliminate the state income tax.
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Minnesota did approve a sales tax increase to fund the arts and natural resources.
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South Dakotans rejected a measure that would have banned most abortions

A woman I know in her 80′s who watches Fox and told me last week that “we don’t know enough about Barack Obama” said after the election that “I understand now,” and that she was glad he was elected in her lifetime.
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Once many of the remaining voters who’ve been taken in for a decade by the Republican fear machine come to understand that Barack Obama is a compassionate, competent, brilliant American, the party will have an either harder time recovering. People don’t like to be duped.

JJ – too funny. We’re officially going to have the wingnut party – and everybody else.

Danncingoutlaw – third time WAS the charm !

Based on two cultural war issues, abortion (actually pretty evenly split) and gay marriage (based IMO on ignorance and fear), the electorate appears slightly (or, in the case of gay marriage, more so) to the right. But, that’s based solely on those two issues. Otherwise, I think slightly to the left would be a more accurate representation. We want health care. We want middle income tax relief. We want access to higher education. We want a host of things which would be considered left-of-center, leaving the above-two issues aside. So, overall, the right-of-center argument doesn’t add up when considering the person and the party we just placed in power.

Dancingoutlaw – I answered you, but I’m in moderation. Must have been an a$$ combination in there somewhere .

Oh S%#t. We can’t even say “comp@ssionate.” Liberate the comment troll.
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A woman I know in her 80′s who watches Fox and told me last week that “we don’t know enough about Barack Obama” said after the election that “I understand now,” and that she was glad he was elected in her lifetime.
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Once many of the remaining voters who’ve been taken in for a decade by the Republican fear machine come to understand that Barack Obama is a comp@ssionate, competent, brilliant American, the party will have an either harder time recovering. People don’t like to be duped.

I just want to clarify, again, from a strategic standpoint I don’t like the title of the operation. I wouldn’t join Operation Leper because I would be afraid it would necessarily include contact with lepers and/or leprosy. So, you see: bad name.

Nope, no a$$es in my post…can’t figure out why moderatoratron1984 gobbled it up…
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piper 1. And we used to think the Democrats have a circular firing squad. Well we’ve got a big tent, and if you get kicked out of your own party there’s room at our party.

You know that the McCain campaign is full of dumba$$es when they try to dispute a news report and end up making it look even worse. Check out the attempt to refute the rumor that Schunemann was fired for leaking information. Notice what they admit happened as opposed to firing him. Is it mere coincidence that his COMMMUNICATIONS tools were taken away when he was being accused of being a leak? This just keeps getting better!
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http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/06/mccain-adviser-disputes-campaign-i-was-not-fired/
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(CNN) — In another sign of drama and disarray inside camp McCain, former campaign senior adviser Randy Scheunemann responded late Wednesday to CNN and insisted he was “not fired and never [have] been fired.”

In addition, Michael Goldfarb, a McCain press aide and Scheunemann ally, also insisted he was not fired.

Earlier: Sources: McCain aide fired for trashing staff

However, Goldfarb did concede that Scheunemann’s campaign e-mail was cut off, and his blackberry was taken away late Friday. Goldfarb admits that senior McCain aides were mad at Scheunemann, and wanted to fire him, but he insists they stopped short of that, and instead simply turned off his campaign communication.

Goldfarb says Scheunemann was in the office on Saturday. He was, however, noticeably missing on election night when top aides to John McCain and Sarah Palin gathered in Phoenix, Arizona

dancing outlaw –
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Please don’t use prop 8 to promote your argument about the country being right of center. the truth is the advocates for prop 8 focused on minorities like the Asian communities with telling them falsely I might add, that failing to pass prop 8 would have an adverse impact on how their children would be educated. And even more importantly, the victory, is primarily the result of a surge of black women voters. I doubt seriously if you are going to keep black women as part of your right of center coalition.

Sounds like Mike Murphy is in danger. Maybe he can be held in some sort of undisclosed location until the threat passes. Mike, if you’re out there: try not to go to any red states. You’re a wanted man.

I guess I was wrong. The mudfest isn’t over.

dancing outlaw –
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Please don’t use prop 8 to promote your argument about the country being right of center. the truth is the advocates for prop 8 focused on minorities like the Asian communities with telling them falsely I might add, that failing to p@ss prop 8 would have an adverse impact on how their children would be educated. And even more importantly, the victory, is primarily the result of a surge of black women voters. I doubt seriously if you are going to keep black women as part of your right of center coalition.

dancingoutlaw
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Gay marriage is not a referendum on being on the right or the left in the same way abortion is not. Thats the thing that face painting conservatives still don’t understand. If you want to point to Gay Marriage being struck down in California as America being right of center then I could point to the defeat of the anti abortion amendment in South Dakota as showing America is center left. But ill bet you don’t want to discuss that do you?
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If you ask the majority of californians if they consider themselves liberal or conservative you will see a landslide win for liberals
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If you ask the same in South Dakota youwould get a landslide victory for conservatives.
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But the country voted for the quote un quote most liberal Senator in the last Congress in a landslide and gave big majorities to the Congress in both the house and the Senate in both of the last two elections. This country is either center or center left. And nothing your conservative mind can conjure up can change that fact

Please, no one stop them! Let them duke it out. I have to say I am rather amazed that no one over there are horrified that Scheunemann trashed his own candidate on the eve of an election in order to position himself with Slow Sarah. They seem ok with that. They’d rather torpedo the professionals who were loyal. Bizarro-world.

dancingoutlaw
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The g@y marriage vote is not a referendum on America leaning to the right or the left in the same way abortion is not. Thats the thing that face painting conservatives still don’t understand. If you want to point to g@y garriage being struck down in California as America being right of center then I could point to the defeat of the anti ab0rtion amendment in South Dakota as showing America is center left. But ill bet you don’t want to discuss that do you?
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If you ask the majority of californians if they consider themselves liberal or conservative you will see a landslide win for liberals
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If you ask the same in South Dakota you would get a landslide victory for conservatives.
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But the country voted for the quote un quote most liberal Senator in the last Congress in a landslide and gave big majorities to the Congress in both the House and the Senate in both of the last two elections. This country is now either center or center left. And nothing your conservative little mind can conjure up can change that fact

Just keep saying ‘the US is a center-right country’.

‘the US is center-right’
‘the US is center-right’
‘the US is center-right’

Don’t look at the results of the elections. Don’t look at who lost and who won. Don’t look at polls of the public’s opinion on issues. Just keep saying it.

And remember: the Democrats MUST govern from the middle. And the republicans MUST move further right to satisfy their base (the key to regaining power).

Just keep saying it.

(2nd try -perhaps MA triggered the block)
“how does California’s vote on Prop 8 fit into your thesis that the american electorate is not slightly right of center?”
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Oh fun, arguement by ballot measure.
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Michigan approved a measure to permit embryonic stem cell research.
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Washington state became the second state, joining Oregon, to legalize physician-assisted suicide for the terminally ill.
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. M@ssachusetts rejected a proposal to eliminate the state income tax.
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Minnesota did approve a sales tax increase to fund the arts and natural resources.
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South Dakotans rejected a measure that would have banned most abortions

Former Republican congressmen Vinn Weber and Mickey Edwards have a quite interesting interview on NPR’s Radio Times this morning discussing the future of the Republican party. Pay extra attention to some of the call-ins. A lot of Republicans are none too happy about the far right dominating the party, and it doesn’t look (based on the two Congressman’s answers) like the party is quite yet willing to stop giving %20 of the population %85 control of the Republican party. As a Democrat, that is good I guess, but as an American (and that supersedes Democrat ALWAYS) I think it is bad for us all.

http://www.whyy.org/91FM/radiotimes.html

Wow, dancingoutlaw – I said what Dee and sg said, minus sg’s snark at the end of his post . Not that I didn’t like it, mind you…it’s just that it’s a bit too early out here on the left coast and I am not caffeinated enough yet to have come up with my own .

The thing is left, right, conservative and liberal are words that are now getting new meanings. The “liberal” brand currently stands for compromise on social issues and guns, a balanced budget, sensible regulation of Wall Street, universal health care, stalwart defense of America’s interests abroad (but no silly wars, please, we’re Dems)reinvestment in America that will provide much needed infrastructure and create jobs, a real focus on the environment, and so on.

The conservative brand will soon be represented by a bunch of far-right loonies.

pourme: maybe some with fun girls
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You have KT, AMC & JNS. What more could you want?

Clearly ACORN stole the election. The local wingnut radio station has figured out that it was all fraud.
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Apparently all over the country fraudulent registrations were turned in. Of course, for the registrations to turn into votes, all over the country people must have been showing up at the polls and announcing “I’m Micky Mouse and I’m here to vote for Obama”.

Yglesias has a very thoughtful piece about bi-partisanship done right. And this (re. Weber and Edwards talk) seems to be exactly the time to implement his suggestions:
http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archives/2008/11/breaking_the_lock.php

southernbell, SOON, be represented by a bunch of far-right loonies??? I thought they already WERE .

pirate
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lol I wasn’t trying to be too snarky, but these “center-right” zombies are just irritating the he11 out of me. Like Robert Novak whom I could give some really mean snark but I do have a heart. But how can you with a straight face say Obama was not given a mandate two days ago when four years ago after Bush stole yet another election by the smallest of margins and Novak said HE was given a mandate. I don’t know what kind of weed these folks are smoking but I will tell you that I will never smoke with my conservative friends EVER again!!

@niceguy – I thought I’d start with Jessica Yellin being hologramed in. Baby steps.

We need an arrrrgggghhhhhing pirate emoticon for demwoman.
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As for right wing loonies, even more now than a few days ago. The somewhat moderately sane repubs tended to lose their seats.

OT, but my niece costumed herself as Palin for Halloween. Looked almost as good as fey, in a snazzy jacket with a dozen flag pins.

> Please, no one stop them! Let them duke it out.
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Actually, Nibbly, doesn’t that “culling the herd” make the remaining members stronger? I don’t want a strong party of “hate, fear, greed.” We’ve already seen what they do – I want them exterminated.

Cool. Robert Gibbs, the guy who stood up to Hannity, press secretary:

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/11/06/gibbs-press-secretary/

Just thought I would mention that it is strange to suddenly see substantive posts appear out of nowhere way up in the thread.

I think you will find that a number of hispanic and african american voters are socially conservative, that being in large part an explanation of the prop 8 vote. Faith is an integral if not the central part of many of those individuals’ lives. Karl Rove exploited faith in 2000 and 2004 … and it worked. You may believe him to be the anti-christ and he very well may be, but the guy is a genius.

Now, explain to me how you can successfully run for office, as a republican, when the current republican administration and, for the most part, a republican congress, ran up a trillion dollar debt and just six weeks ago insisted on a 700 billion buyout/government intervention in the financial markets? The whole big government is bad – small government is good mantra rings a little bit shallow coming from a republican this go around. And your results are what they are. When you just talk the talk but don’t walk the walk, people never ever buy it. Or, they reject it out of hand, which is what just happened.

I remain unconvinced that the nation, as a whole, is “liberal.” I agree the center has moved a bit to the left as a result of the last 8 years, but in the end people want government out of their lives and business.

Time for the “G”OP to either go back to its republican roots or die. These “Republicans” are anything but. Of course, they’re generally not conservative either, so it should probably be no surprise that there’s this attempt to purge anyone but the True Believers from the Ranting Classes. Whether this will have any effect on the actual leadership of what is rapidly becoming the National (anti)Socialist American Worker’s (if you’re a Plumber, anyway – somewhere, Nixon’s ghost is chortling..) Party remains to be seen.

MNG: “Actually, Nibbly, doesn’t that “culling the herd” make the remaining members stronger?”
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In this case, no. It makes the RW craziness stand out in sharper relief. This election was really the first time that America saw the base in full cry, egged on by Palin and McCain. They didn’t like what they saw.
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I’m with John Cole in hoping that Mickey Cantor becomes Minority Whip. Just the guy to be the face of the repubs.

wvng, I suspect that the reason those substantive posts appeared out of nowhere way up thread is that they were in moderation and were just freed. That is what I think is the worst problem with the modbot. Perhaps it will be fixed by NEXT Monday.

sgwhite: it’s not weed they’re smoking – and, yes, I’ve seen a $20 bill, while on weed! It’s just good, ol’-fashioned “double standards.” The Repugs have their own not-quite-three-letter TLA: IOKIYAR.

wvng, Isn’t that Eric Cantor?

Arrgh be me mostly celebratory an’ salutatory expression, matey . I b’lieve I’ll be usin’ Yarrr!, in a bit o’ a disgusted, growly-soundin’ tone, fer th’ remainin’ assortment o’ barnacles, sea sh*ts, an’ algae-brained plankton-heads infectin’ our wee bit (a touch o’ Scot fer Stuart) o’ paradise from now on .
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Will that work fer ye, shipmates ?

Yarrr! Me comment be stuck wi’ moderatoratron1984 fer usin’ an excess o’ pirate-speak!

wvng wrote: ‘Yglesias has a very thoughtful piece about bi-partisanship done right…’
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I’m ok with bi-partisanship but I have two caveats:
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1)Obviously, Obama would have to be VERY careful who he lets in. And he must be quick to fire anyone who is undermining him (no more Louis Freeh’s).
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2)Those who have committed crimes in the Bush administration MUST be punished. No ‘let bygones be bygones’ policy here. The republicans will scream ‘partisan witch-hunt’, but it’s important for the health of the country that it be done. As long as politicians think they can commit crimes with impunity, they’ll keep committing crimes every time they gain power. This must be ended.

dancingoutlaw
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Your primary and most critical flaw in logic is that you believe the GOP progaganda about what defines a liberal vs a conservative especially as it pertains to social issues. The truth is if you want to talk about not wanting governement intervention as a conservative mantra, then I would point some conservative causes that fly in the face of that. Conservatives want government to
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1. Decide what defines marriage
2. Interfere with a woman’s right to choose
3. Define what is offensive or p0rnographic
4. Endorse Christianity above all other religions
5. Prevent someone who is terminally ill from ending their life on their own terms.
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Now I might actually agree with some of those things in theory but liberals aren’t asking government to legislate my personal feelings.
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So who is REALLY the party of big government?

ivb3016, yeah, I know. Just commenting that it makes conversations difficult. I know we all know that. Perhaps if they were using a Moderatoratron 2008 instead of a ModBot 1968 that takes up a small room and has 32K memory it would work better.

outlaw: I remain unconvinced that the nation, as a whole, is “liberal.”
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Of course. It’s like a Bell Curve for distribution; think “standard deviation.” We have a moderate majority under the curve, spread out on both sides, and the “wingnuts” to the extremes in both directions. Unfortunately, it’s the wingnut extremists that get their voices heard, probably because they’re screaming the loudest. “Chicken Little” nonsense, for the most part.
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I’m not for “big government,” but perhaps we should have a government-sponsored Xanax dispensary program for the lunatic fringe. Just to shut ‘em up…

dancingoutlaw Says:
Thursday, November 6, 2008 at 11:56 am
I think you will find that a number of Hispanic and African American voters are socially conservative,

that’s the point you will always lose these people because they don’t buy into any of the rest of your government is bad crapola.
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these are people who have had to rely on government to keep the right wing lynch mobs at bay. — Wasn’t it Republicans that were trying to blame minorities for the financial crisis. as long as you don’t take personal responsibility for your own failures and continue to use minorities as your convenient scapegoats you will continue to be a minority party — game changed

wvng: Perhaps if they were using a Moderatoratron 2008 instead of a ModBot 1968
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I think you want that in reverse. It’s the more recent versions that preemptively shut down discussion. Think Bush’s “Free Speech Zones.” We were treated more like adults in the “bad old days.” The weed was cheaper, too…

ivb3016. Yep, sorry.

bobcn1, Yglesias’ piece describes strategic bipartisanship that builds the progressive coalition by engaging Republican pragmatists. There are actually a bunch of them out there in the wilderness.

Hey dancingoutlaw
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Right wing bat sh!t crazy anti abortionist Jill Stanek doesnt think America is a a christian center right nation. She says because we elected Barack Obama we are all now “barbarians”. I am sure she wanted to throw words like “savages” and “thugs” but I guess maybe she figured “barbarians” wouldnt sounds so racially insensitive.
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from Huffpo
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Though some conservatives are making conciliatory noises about Barack Obama now that the election is over, Jill Stanek is not among them. The former Illinois nurse, whose claims about a supposed rash of abortions of “born alive” babies at a Chicago hospital snowballed into the election-season charge that Obama supported “infanticide,” wrote Thursday:

“Barack Obama was elected president despite the fact he supports abortion into the fourth trimester. Either the 63 million people voting for him didn’t know about his radical record, which includes abandoning abortion survivors to die, didn’t care, or didn’t believe it.”

Because several “anti-life” ballot initiatives also passed on Tuesday, Stanek said to her World Net Daily audience that “we are fooling ourselves if we think the United States is still a Christian nation,” adding: “Its people just elected a barbarian as president.”

SG: Don’t say I didn’t warn you (re: operation Leper).

Dee in Columbia:

I think if you re-read my post you will see that I absolutely do blame the republicans for the state of this country. Is it solely their fault? No. But it all happened on their watch and in large part due to their greed and/or inattention. (Although I will add that if ALL people would take personal responsibility for their actions and failures we, indeed, would not be in the mess we are in. I cannot tell you how many times my husband and I have asked ourselves “exactly who lives in all of these huge houses and how do they afford them” or “are there really that many people that can afford to drive mercedes” Again, I think we know the answer now)

The game has indeed changed. But you are really kidding yourself if you don’t think the game is going to change again. Maybe not in 2 years. Maybe not in 4. Maybe not even in 8. But the game will change again.

Hey dancingoutlaw
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Right wing bat sh!t crazy anti abortionist Jill Stanek doesnt think America is a a christian center right nation. She says because we elected Barack Obama we are all now “barbarians”. I am sure she wanted to throw words like “savages” and “thugs” but I guess maybe she figured “barbarians” wouldnt sounds so racially insensitive.
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from Huffpo
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Though some conservatives are making conciliatory noises about Barack Obama now that the election is over, Jill Stanek is not among them. The former Illinois nurse, whose claims about a supposed rash of abortions of “born alive” babies at a Chicago hospital snowballed into the election-season charge that Obama supported “infanticide,” wrote Thursday:

“Barack Obama was elected president despite the fact he supports abortion into the fourth trimester. Either the 63 million people voting for him didn’t know about his radical record, which includes abandoning abortion survivors to die, didn’t care, or didn’t believe it.”

Because several “anti-life” ballot initiatives also p@ssed on Tuesday, Stanek said to her World Net Daily audience that “we are fooling ourselves if we think the United States is still a Christian nation,” adding: “Its people just elected a barbarian as president.”

Andy
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lol I love operation leper. Talk about liting the fuse on a bomb. Im just waiting for the explosion!

sgwhiteinfla:

My final thought, because I have to get back to work to make sure I can take care of Peggy Joseph’s gas and mortgage for her, don’t equate the crazies on the right with all republicans in general. They are a minority. Unfortunately they are a vocal minority. Just as I suspect you don’t want the crazies on the left to be the face of all democrats. The extremists in the echo chambers ruin it for everyone else.

Some rhetorical questions: What does the right wing continuum look like?
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How does one insure that they are “right wing ” enough to be recognized as a “real” right winger?
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Is there a multiple choice test they take?
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Do they have to perform some act of alligence?
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When someone doesn’t measure up to the “standard”, what becomes of them?

lighting. I need some coffee lol

> “Its people just elected a barbarian as president.”
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What’s this “just” stuff?? Bush was president for 8 years before Obama…

dancingoutlaw
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The thing you are missing is that YOUR party is turning into the echo chamber.
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I will bet Staneks words are on about every right wing website RIGHT NOW!

dout: “Just as I suspect you don’t want the crazies on the left to be the face of all democrats.”
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You never actually hear the actual crazies on the left. They put centrist dems beside wingbats and call that balance.

Andy: ‘What does the right wing continuum look like?” From pretty darned crazy to really totally crazy. They purged any sane voices out a long time ago.

Dancing, in case you’re not gone yet – faith-centered lives are not the exclusive “property” of cultural conservatives. Plenty of cultural “liberals”, including this wench, lead faith-centered lives. It’s just that our faith does not require legislating the lives of those who do not share our beliefs. For the most part, we believe that God is big enough to take care of those who do evil in this life – S/HE does not need our assistance, other than in being good examples of the two greatest Commandments, as outlined by our own Personal Savior , in the lives we ourselves choose to lead.

If it’s any help, Mark A. S. McMenamin wrote a book, “Garden of Ediacara” about strange animals that flourished, then went extinct in the distant past, leaving few surviving descendants.
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Maybe Jason Linkins will write a book about this, and I’ll find it right next to Mark’s book on library shelves…

What the h*ll is going on with mod-tron 1984! Oops – I see it now – a$$istance – YARR!

Rahm accepted the COS post

Reading the choice quotes from AMC’s link, I’m struck that these conservatives think that we progressives are just going to sit back and relax now that Obama’s been elected.
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Well, let’s not ruin the surprise for them.

Wench, I should have said “further-to-the-right loonies”!

Here was something funny I just found on politico. Sad but still funny.
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A reader with some roots in New York Jewish politics writes:

So the president-elect who the Internet and my uncle say is a closet Muslim madrasa alumnus is poised to name a congressman who the Internet and my uncle says is a top Mossad double agent as his White House chief of staff.

Why is all of this vitriol being spewed by the left? You guys won the election. Do you not think if you guys had worked so hard for two years to get your candidate elected that you guys wouldn’t have gone out of your minds given the last two elections? I mean come on, try to be intellectually honest for a moment instead of just being a pundit. I am sure people are upset, however they will get over it. You mean to tell me that if the situation was reversed that you guys on the left would have supported McCain? Haha.

Cliff,
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Did you read the comments section on Redstate? The internet allow us to see just how bat sht crazy some of our fellow Americans are!

Just saw sg!
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There’s a thought that Obama will pick some from the GOP, but I’m guessing that he’s not about to stick his hand in that toilet and feel for the hardest turds…

SG quoted: “So the president-elect who the Internet and my uncle say is a closet Muslim madrasa alumnus is poised to name a congressman who the Internet and my uncle says is a top Mossad double agent as his White House chief of staff.”

Which goes to show how inclusive an Obama administration will be.

This is why you never heard about Obama’s pollster as opposed to McCain’s hack pollster.
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Obama pollster Joel Benenson has some pointed observations in Time about how wrong the press was and how wrong McCain was to believe the press:

This [McCain] is a guy who said, “The press corps is my base,” and I think it was. He didn’t get that he wasn’t defined. You gotta be consistent. You gotta reinforce what you stand for. But through his campaign policies, McCain was reinforcing that he was more of the same. That “Miss Congeniality” line — what did that mean to voters? It didn’t mean that he fundamentally disagreed with the ideology of George Bush.

Also:

The second piece of conventional wisdom that was completely wrong was which groups we would be strong with. The notion that voters who supported Senator Clinton would vote Republican in the general election was never supported by what we saw in our polling. At the beginning of June, going into the general election, Obama had a double-digit lead in our battleground poll against McCain among women. He was competitive among Catholics and led 2-to-1 among Latinos.

The press corps had focused on all these groups in the last three months of the primary and was convinced that they would pose problems for us in the general. But that just wasn’t true, and we recognized that early on. As a result, we were able to focus on swing voters instead of worrying about parts of the base that were already with us. We looked at groups where Obama could make gains and at places where he could broaden the map.

“I am sure people are upset, however they will get over it.”
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Having watched the evolution of the GOP for over thirty years, I honestly think that you are reaching for false equivalancies. I won’t beat the dead horse of Southern Strategy, but I think that the “vitriol” you see here is very mild to what I’ve just seen on RW websites.
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I think, judgementz, you need to look equally impartially and equally closely at just why there seem to be so many people loudly celebrating in the fashion of New Year, Obama’s win.
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And believe me, that has never happened before!

judgementez
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Even after Bush stole the election, liberals supported him and Dems supported his decision to go to war in Iraq. And even though none of it made sense at the time we were so upset about Sept 11 and wanted revenge that liberals and Dems supported Bush even after the negative reports were coming out. What you and conservatives don’t seem to get is that we drop our support ONLY when someone gives us a reason to. You guys are already talking about impeaching Obama before he has made even one decision for our country. THATS the difference. Right wingers just hate because thats who they are. Liberals hate for good reason!

Why is all of this vitriol being spewed by the left? You guys won the election.
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(1) We recognize that this victory is only the beginning of a new phase.
(2) People like Carney, Broder, and Dowd are attempting to blunt the central message of this victory – the repudiation of the right.
(3) The loathsome criminals and psychopaths that have infested our government and media for the last several decades are still free.
(4) We’re still pissed about the last eight years. Yeah, they were that bad.
(5) Read AMC’s links. The quotes there have a lot to do with it.

Why is all of this vitriol being spewed by the left? You guys won the election.
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(1) We recognize that this victory is only the beginning of a new phase.
(2) People like Carney, Broder, and Dowd are attempting to blunt the central message of this victory – the repudiation of the right.
(3) The loathsome criminals and psychopaths that have infested our government and media for the last several decades are still free.
(4) We’re still p!ssed about the last eight years. Yeah, they were that bad.
(5) Read AMC’s links. The quotes there have a lot to do with it.

Really I am conservative and I don’t hate anyone. I am not mad that Obama got elected. I am sure that their are people who are but, there are always people who are not happy. I just worry about the constitution being preserved, less government, less spending, less government programs, and if he had been for even some of those, he would have been my canidate.

I wish him well I just feel that given his non-experience and his record he has a hard road ahead.

I worry about these things, too! Under a President Obama, we could end up with a domestic spying program, torture, a mountain of debt, and nationalization of banks and the insurance industry.

pourme,
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Now that should scare ANY conservative!!!

I just worry about the constitution being preserved, less government, less spending, less government programs, and if he had been for even some of those, he would have been my canidate.
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Many of us were worried because of the way the constitution was shredded, there was more government intervention in our private lives, a large surplus was spent into a deficit that it will take years and years to dig out of, the size of the government was increased without creating better government programs for everyone during these last eight years. I am sorry that Obama voted for the FISA extension, which I thought was a bad thing, but I am confident he has the intelligence to solve problems better than any of the alternatives.

@sgw – Word. I mean, The Constitution? Are you kidding me? After Bush, Obama will have to hire a police sketch artist and have people describe what it looked like.

judgmentz:
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“I just worry about the constitution being preserved, less government, less spending, less government programs, and if he had been for even some of those, he would have been my canidate.”
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I think the constitution itself will more than likely be fine. However, the other statements have stong caveats.
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Less Government:
The GOP went wrong when they decided this meant no government assistance during national disasters other than military. The point being, whatever anyone thinks of the bailout, or Katrina, when things overwhelm the locals, or the market, or the military, the government is the court of last resort.
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I’m a fiscal conservative, but the poor, welfare, etc, etc are not the primary source of our debt. Learn to get past 1996 Welfare Reform and stop talking about the poor.
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Less spending?
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I don’t mind less spending, but we will have to have taxes increase on some to do it. Obama’s plans are fine with me.
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Basically, it seems like you were saying that if he had adapted Republican ideals, you would have voted for him.
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This isn’t exactly rocket surgery. I would then not have voted for him!

judgementz:
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There does need to be an opposition. A legitamate opposition to what any political party does, and there are limits to taxes, government size, programs, etc etc. Where those limits are is maninly determined by the forces for and against each issue.
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The problem is judgementz, you are again making the mistake of calling those GOPers that hate an “extremist” element. And in that, you fail. We could go through the rolls of GOP surrogates who up until yesterday doing a whole lot of “back of the bus” stuff [salter quote, btw] – and you need to acknowledge that.
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The Dems have no such surrogates. You never hear life-ending sentiments voiced at Obama rallies. Even innocuous “boo-ers” were redirected by Obama to the voting lines. We don’t have “Southern Strategy”.
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It’s conservatives like you that need to fix the GOP and expunge the hatred the GOP has used for political purposes. Make the GOP something that stands for something, not against these people or those people, because we are all Americans!

Yet another reason to give Alan Colmes a little bit of credit this year. How about after all that ranting Joe The Plumber did about redistribution of wealth and spreading the wealth around and how he has principles and doesnt want to take other people’s money. This fool was grew up on welfare!!! Talk about glass houses. Now just to make it clear I am not ragging on people on welfare because many people need it and with out it the number of homeless people as well as hungry innocent children would sky rocket. The point is the hypocrisy of this idjut just knows no bounds. Here’s the video.
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http://www.newshounds.us/2008/11/06/joe_the_plumber_fox_news_business_expert_again_questions_obamas_patriotism.php#more

The hyperbole and childishness of RedState increasingly reminds me of Calvin and Hobbes’ G.R.O.S.S. club.

Project Leper…brilliant! When you’ve been told by the MSM and the culture at large that being born w/ white skin, a low IQ and a d!ck was the sure fire path to greatness over the last 30 years, and a big ole heaping helping of reality crushes that fantasy….the mind plays funny tricks on itself.

This is the denial stage, lets hope they never get beyond it.

Textee wrote: “Wow. The thoroughly unqualified community organizer got 98% of the black vote in Texas. America’s Team? A whopping 1%. Racism, anyone?”
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I’d like to explore that with you, since you were kind enough to use statistics. In 2004, John Kerry recieved 88% of the Black vote. Census data tells us that is consisteny, or slightly lower than recent historical average for the Democrats. Taking that number, we find that (since the prior %88 were for a white guy Democrat) that %10 of the Black vote shifted from Republican to Democrat (Obama) in this election.
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I guess that means the %10 of formerly Republican black voters are racists and traitors by your estimation, and that it is not surprising they came from the party you support, just surprising they voted against it. I’m not sure the statistics help your point much, but it was fun to look at. Have a nice four years.