KO Fights Back, UPDATED.

Way to go SG you know our guy.

AMC,
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Call me confused, but how is fighting with KO the day before the election helping the McCain camp again?

How to create must-see TeeVee…..

Mark Salter not too bright?

LMAO, what does it mean exactly when the day before an election the McCain camp is picking fights with Keith Olbermann?

Our number five story on Countdown – Sarah Palin meets Klondor in a Stone Circle Death Match!

Oh, listen to her! Rowrrrr! You go, Olbergirl!

Oh I get it -they are setting up the multiple fall guy strategy.
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1-It’s Palin’s (the diva and whack job)fault.
2-It’s Olberman’s (the biased left wing media’s)fault.
3-It’s ___________(fill in the blank anybody but McCain’s) fault.

Freakin’ mø∆€®å†!øn.

Keith Olbermann has a piece about this whole episode on Daily Kos right now.

LOL tell KO I said thanks for the h/t AMC. I feel so “special”

2008-the year the best run campaign ever ran against the worse run campaign ever.

1 day to go and the McCain campaign is reprising the Monty Python argument sketch. “You changed the line!” “No we didn’t”. “Yes you did.” “No we didn’t.” “Did.” “Didn’t.” “This isn’t relevant political discourse on the eve of one of the most important elections in US history, this is just mindless contradiction on a trifling matter.” (pause) “Communist.”

This is why I don’t care for Olbermann – he makes mountains out of mole hills, which is fine except it cheapens the mountains. And there are lots of mountains. A fight over whether or not Sarah Palin dropped a line on a skit on late-night teevee show is what we’re all in a tizzy about? Wow, must not be anything else of significance happening in the world, huh?

Also, Mr. Salter is lying through his teeth and I even have physical evidence of the line change, which I’ll show on the program tonight

As I said. I never watch TeeVee but this would almost be enough to create an exception.

Now the tension when Tina Fey walked by Palin in the “press conference” skit totally make sense. Fey’s one of the best writers on television and Palin dissed her line. Thanks KO – trivial but amusing.

We’re done…
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Slowhand wins the thread!

@billiecat – Exactly. If an asteroid were set to destroy the earth tomorrow, Olbermann would lead with how O’Reilly had downplayed the likelihood last week.

dunedweller – I thought Fey saying she wanted to be “done playing this lady Nov. 5″ was more than enough to explain that.

I have (drum roll please) evidence of the line change!
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Unfortunately, though, we live in a time that the importance of evidence in politics has to be defended. Where’s the importance of evidence when there’s a culture war to carry out? It’s pretty wacky times…

billiecat,
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I agree that Olbermann is over the top but I would have to say that Mark Salter made this an issue not Olbermann. Most pr people know that sometimes the best response is no response at all. But Mark Salter fancies himself a tough guy and loves to cuss at people in these last few days as if he is some kind of thug or something. It really shows what kind of rank amateurs McCain surrounded himself with. The greatest thing about Karl Rove is you never saw him and never heard from him, he never pounded his chest or was full of bluster. He simply went about his job of quietly cutting the oppostion down at the knees and played the “who me?” role. Notice that you don’t see Obama responding to every id!otic thing that Hannity says. Mark Salter just INSURED that KO will beat Bill O tonight in the ratings. Just not the smartest thing to do the day before an election

billiecat: Pretty much. Hopefully her talent will rise above being forever linked to Palin. It’s kinda cool though a comedienne will go down in history with the best of the political satirists.

sgw: You nailed it! However trivial and distracting this is at an important moment in history, the majority of commentary news viewers have switched to KO. Maybe a few of them are still undecided, and if so, being still undecided at this point make them so weird and random that one hit by KO could be their deciding factor!

I love Keith, and watch him somewhat faithfully, but isn’t this just what Obama rails against when he says we’re making a big election about small things? I understand that after a while you want to talk about some other things other than the fact that the McCainiacs are lying in almost EVERY ad they run, or that they’re using fear and prejudice as their only argument at this point. I understand you want to spend a little time on this, Keith, but don’t take it so seriously. It’s trivial.

Maybe Affleck can take over Countdown? He was a lot funnier…

http://www.political-buzz.com/

Bush is officially trying to sink McCain. First Cheney gives an “endorsement” this weekend and now this. What do you bet Karl Rove is behind this because McCain started criticizing Bush?
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http://thinkprogress.org/2008/11/03/perino-bush-mccain/

Cookie Puss Says:
Monday, November 3, 2008 at 1:01 pm
Mark Salter not too bright?

I understand that Salter was the one member of the McCain Brain Trust (him, Davis, and Schmidt) who was less than thrilled about Palin. He’s also a Troo Beleever in the Cult of McCain, in a circle with Lindsey Graham, Tom Brokaw, and McCain himself.

sg – I’m not saying the McCain camp is a buncha friggin’ geniuses, I’m just saying Olbermann leaves me cold. but then, if I were a wingnut I’d probably not watch O’Reilly, either. And, heresy of heresies, I don’t think Colbert is funny.
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On the other hand, I *do* like Python, so well done Slowhand Ted.

I like Olbermann, but I can see why other people wouldn’t, and I thought Affleck’s parody was pretty funny (went on too long, but that’s SNL). As for him making too big a deal of a trivial thing, it’s not like he’s going to devote the whole show to this. It’ll be two or three minutes out of an hour. He also does stories about dumb criminals and Darwin award winners. His show has always had goofy stuff in it.
(and billiecat: I think Colbert’s brilliant, but it wears thin over the course of a whole show)

billiecat,
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I am not disputing you on how KO is. I am just saying that HE isnt really the one that caused this back and forth. Its his job to poke McCain and his campaign. Its McCain and his campaign’s job not to poke back the day before an election. Especially on a day when they are getting anemic numbers to their rallys in battleground states. It would be like the Obama campaign putting out a press release today saying Sean Hannity is wrong about Jeremiah Wright being an anti semite. Why give HIM the spotlight on the day before people are going to go to the polls and stand in line for HOURS hopefully to vote for YOU. Salter is just a RICHARD and McCain should have let him write books instead of running his campaign. How much do you want to bet KO smiled like the joker as SOON as he saw Salter’s response? For him this is payback for the McCain campaign influencing NBC to remove him from the anchor chair for the RNC. How much do you wnat to bet that Salter’s dumb azz will respond again?

and that talking about the KO bit was simply Sunday ayem conversation, not “our goddamn last 48 hours strategy.”

Apparently, touting a lying, willfully ignorant, nativist, racist demagogue as your “hero” and “role model” is their “goddamn last 48 hours strategy”. The sad thing is, Salter and Davis and Schmidt, who are responsible (along with The Mac hisself) for the poisonously stupid McCain/Palin campaign, will find steady work telling Anderson Cooper and David Gregory how awful President Obama (Barack the President!!) is. Gotta love our political media.
(Now, will directly quoting AMC’s post on Swampland get me sent to Swampland moderation limbo?)

I hope Keith Olbermann didn’t just carve a backwards “P” on his face.

Olbermann, the surest sign that you’re getting to them is when they call you over the top. Go, cat, go! Now, more seriously, after the election you’ve got to broaden out the list of people who appear on your show. The cast is a little thin. Other than that, I’m a huge fan!

Well, while I do believe KO is a wee bit over-the-top at times, lately he’s been very much on-target with things.

That said, this is an incredibly lame/weak bit to get worked up over. Perhaps worthy of mention on any other night, but the night before the election? With eleventy-billion-hour long lines to early vote, tens of thousands of voters stricken from the rolls across the country, and other irregularities? Priorities, sir, priorities!

Additionally, I hope for his sake that the evidence/data he’s been handed has been verified. Would suck to be him if someone just mocked up a cue card and offered it as bait.

(Now, will directly quoting AMC’s post on Swampland get me sent to Swampland moderation limbo?)

Apparently, it will indeed.

Fey’s one of the best writers on television and Palin dissed her line.

It may have been Seth Myers’ line: Terry Gross talked to him about the dynamics of the Palin sketches last week.

Anyway, KO loves himself very very much, and we’re doubtless going to see a ten-minute segment that shows clips of Affleck, followed by the denouement. And to be honest, I’m okay about that on the Monday night before the election, because unless Something Big happens, we’re in campaign junk time.

p.s.: Keep sticking it to O’Leilly. Every single time you do it, I cheer at my TV. It’s like watching James Carville. I am waiting for the day that O’Leilly’s head explodes! On air! Wait — that happens every night, doesn’t it?

The sign that it is a humiliating Diva malfunction will be if Olbermann backs off the “evidence,” and focuses with elevated outrage on why the McCain campaign “focused on him” during the last day of the campaign.

billiecat,
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I am not disputing you on how KO is. I am just saying that HE isnt really the one that caused this back and forth. Its KO’s job to poke McCain and his campaign. Its McCain and his campaign’s job not to poke back the day before the election. Especially on a day when they are getting anemic numbers to their rallys in battleground states. It would be like the Obama campaign putting out a press release today saying Sean Hannity is wrong about Jeremiah Wright being an anti semite. Why give HIM the spotlight on the day before people are going to go to the polls and stand in line for HOURS hopefully to vote for YOU. Salter is just a RICHARD and McCain should have let him write books instead of running his campaign. How much do you want to bet KO smiled like the joker as SOON as he saw Salter’s response? For him this is payback for the McCain campaign influencing NBC to remove him from the anchor chair for the RNC. How much do you want to bet that Salter’s stup!d azz will respond again?

KO rules and is never unintentionally over the top. It was this administration that was always over the top.

Your update would have been more informative if you had mentioned who Tucker Eskew was…

http://www.whitehouse.gov/government/eskew-bio.html

Thanks for the Keith, truth!
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And sg, too…

“On air! Wait — that happens every night, doesn’t it?”
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Nope. Those were pictures of his azz…

From reading his bio I see that Tucker lives in the “communist” part of Virginia.

I’m sure that this one will become a Rachel Maddow moment, btw…

I realize that a lot of people are angry at KO for being one of the few media types that never had a taste for Codpiece avec la BBQ sauce, but even more people will always admire him for it.

>>>not “our goddamn last 48 hours strategy”

Hilarious. And every minute a McCain staffer spends on this is one minute not spent getting crazy people to vote for their candidate. KO, ftw.

34, it really doesn’t matter if KO doesn’t have the goods. There’s an election tomorrow, in case you hadn’t heard. The whole point of this is that none of it matters, yet Olbermann was able to goad a couple of the McCain posse into trading shots with him on the eve of the election. Full-on win for KO the minute they took the bait.

This is from the same guy who just linked approvingly to Atlas Shrugged!

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/09/mccain-hires-go.html

Eskew’s talent notwithstanding, he was loathed by McCain’s 2000 campaign team. When the media first reported push-poll phone calls from Voter/Consumer Research, a company hired by he Bush campaign, asking South Carolinians if they knew about McCain’s role in the S&L crisis and his scandal as a member of the Keating Five, it was Eskew — Bush’s South Carolina spokesman – who acknowledged, and defended, the calls.

Dang i wish I had put that bet up sooner. What kind of fuk nuts responds twice to this kind of bull sh!t? If anybody needed ANY more proof that McCain’s campaign people are the frikkin keystone cops THIS should do it. Seriously how just inept do they look and of course now Mark Salter who called KO an angry man in the first response now takes time out to use a cuss word now made famous forever by Jeremiah Wright to prove how “manly” he is. I have been hoping and praying for an Obama victory even if by the slimmest of margins. But now I really hope he CRUSHES them just to put an exclamation point on how ridiculous McCaiin’s campaign was.

The Monty Python sketch that Slowhand Ted referenced. It is a perfect reference. It feels like the McCain campaign finally found something they can understand.

Whatever else he’s up to, Olbermann will have much of the blogosphere’s attention tonight.
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Why? Why should anyone give a rat’s @ss about this?

Whoa more FoxNews push back. Looks like some folks over there are tired of drinking the Murdock kool aid
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/03/fox-news-major-garrett-de_n_140503.html

@sgw – I’ve read a couple of articles about Salter, and they really creep me out. He is always described as some kind of symbiotic being who feeds from the scales behind McCain’s gills and communicates speech themes using whale cries. Very scary stuff.

Cliff
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Because evidently McCain’s people give a rats @ss about it.

Why does Salter have such a potty mouth?

And Tucker Eskew should probably be worrying less about this, and more about the fact that as Palin’s “chief of staff” he’s a horrible failure at life.

“Exactly. If an asteroid were set to destroy the earth tomorrow, Olbermann would lead with how O’Reilly had downplayed the likelihood last week.”

Uh, if you could show me another news personality that consistently highlights the most important issues of the day other than Maddow, I’m all ears. You can’t. So shut up.

More on the “angry man” stuff. Matt Y has a good point. Just because a piece of commentary happens to be strident, does that mean it’s “hate”? This way, you might not have to deal with any of the criticism coming to you, no matter how much merit it has. You can just call it “hate.”

pourme,
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One of the Swamplanders did a profile on him the other day and I swear it seems the guy is like the biggest groupie in the world. I mean what exactly has he done to help his candidate in this campaign? He is pretty much useless and Sully has PWNED him several times about Sarah Palin’s medical records. I would be really worried about him stalking McCain after this is all over.

@sgw – I think I saw this on an Outer Limits episode – he turns into a pile of dust when McCain loses.
@cincinnatus – Um, I’m a grownup man so I’m going to go ahead and hold a different opinion than you without “shutting up.”

@Cliff Those in the liberal blogosphere are pretty much the only people who watch Olbermann.

Because evidently McCain’s people give a rats @ss about it.
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Well, these are the f–ktards that thought Palin would be a good VP pick, who thought McCain could do a Superman dive into the bailout and fix everything, and who think that Iowa is winnable.
So what these guys consider to be worthy of their time is nonsensical in the extreme.
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Note: My ire is directed towards AMC for her blogosphere statement, and the fact that she’s wasting my time on this stuff on Election Eve.

Sensitive pourme, so sensitive. I guess you couldn’t name a single name. I get it. Game. Set. Match.

Salter is seriously creepy. It’s like his whole existence is dependent on keeping McCain up on that war hero/maverick pedestal, and anything that contradicts that is like stabbing him in the heart.

Uber creepy.

Olbermann should hope Obama loses. His “success” has been built on the back of BDS. With an Obama win he isn’t going to have much to rail about.

Those in the liberal blogosphere are pretty much the only people who watch Olbermann.
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As you can see there’s a debate going on right here about KO’s merits.
My point is that folks like Greenwald, Digby, and the Firedoglake crew will probably have more important things to say, on Election F–king Eve, than what KO thinks about an SNL skit.

@cincinnatus – You’re being macho silly. As I said explicitly in another thread, these are preferences not right/wrong. I don’t like Olbermann. I don’t have a problem if you do, but telling me to shut up is pointless.

Tucker Eskew weighs in

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So, is Tucker Eskew an actual racist, or is he a George Wallace type who “merely’ relies on racism for political gain? (Yeah, he ran that C.R.A.P. about John McCain’s daughter in South Carolina back in 2000.)
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Scumball. Absolute scumball.
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“Those in the liberal blogosphere are pretty much the only people who watch Olbermann.”
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johnyt1977, apparently there’s enough liberal bloggers in the country to make KO #1.
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http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/ratings/
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A) Why can’t you let this go…am I getting to you.
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B)Shut up.

You guys need to stop! I’ve heard Donut and SG get into some serious battles, and now cincy and pourme? Come on!
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Tommorrow is going to be one of those days that we will remember for the rest of our lives. I’m 54 and I know I will.
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Let’s bury the hatchet and give these guys idjits a hearty shove into oblivion tomorrow without emulating the feral snarling of the rats left on that particular stinking, er, sinking ship!

This brings a whole new meaning to KY smear.

http://joemygod.blogspot.com/search/label/Mitch%20McConnell

Sheesh reading this thread has me thinking we are all ready for a nice steam letting off election tomorrow.

@Cliff Swampland is pretty notorious for being the bottom of the barrel of the MSM blogs. They focus a lot of this insider crap.

@60, Jonnyt1977: Strange that he gets so deeply under Republican skin then, isn’t?
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Just underlines how nonsensical the whole “Liberal Media” argument is. David Gregory, Tom Brokaw, Russert, Barnicle, Norah O’Donnell, Joey Scar… all reliable purveyors of whatever talking points Bush, Rove, McCain want them to spew, but let them be challenged for ten hours a week, and all the knuckle-dragging mouth-breathers start squealing like stuck pigs.

I’m going to start drinking now.

Johnyt #64: You’d think, but remember the Clinton years. It may keep KO and Rachel busy for the next 4 years watching BO’s back from right wingnut attacks.

The only things that would make Olbermann’s show interesting after an Obama win is if Obama betrays him and actually tries to govern from the center. A Democratic party civil war with Olbermann leading the charge against Obama. That’s something I would watch.

53_3
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My conflict with Donut had to do with him coming in and labeling those of us criticizing JNS as “petty azzholes”. I can agree to disagree with anyone just as I did with others on this thread about whether they like KO or not. To me its all about respecting other’s opinions and not trying to personally attack them for having a different opinion. Now I DO believe that cinci took it too far to try to tell another poster to shut up just because that person disagreed with him. But I was hoping it would just pass over because from what I have seen cinci usually doesnt roll like that. But since he hasn’t let me repeat that. Cinci you know that you were in the wrong for telling a non troll to shut up just because they disagreed with your opinion on something that is very far from being a black and white issue. Now its on you whether you admit to that but I am speaking as a third party observer with no skin in the game

@53_3 – Relax, there’s no battle from me. Like I said, I have no problem if someone loves KO; I just don’t. I also think it’s crazy to debate preferences as if they are logical propositions. There is no right answer to whether KO sux. How could there be?

“The Borgen Project has some good info on the cost of addressing global poverty.
$30 billion: Annual shortfall to end world hunger.
$540 billion: Annual U.S. Defense Budget.”

…actually I think KO will be busy with what we’re likely to find out about the Bush Admin now that the GOP is no longer there to protect them. Lot’s of stuff hiding under rocks.

53_3
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My conflict with Donut had to do with him coming in and labeling those of us criticizing JNS as “petty a$$holes”. I can agree to disagree with anyone just as I did with others on this thread about whether they like KO or not. To me its all about respecting others’ opinions and not trying to personally attack them for having a different opinion. Now I DO believe that cinci took it too far to try to tell another poster to shut up just because that person disagreed with him. But I was hoping it would just pa$$ over because from what I have seen cinci usually doesn’t roll like that. But since it hasn’t let me repeat that. Cinci you know that you were in the wrong for telling a non troll to shut up just because they disagreed with your opinion on something that is very far from being a black and white issue. Now its on you whether you admit to that but I am speaking as a third party observer with no skin in the game

…you people seriously have no sense of humor. None. Nunca. Nein. Nada.

Now seriously all of you…shut the f@ck up!

@Cinci: I’m sure on Red State right now there’s a post somewhere on how Bill O’Reilly is the media personality who consistently highlights the most important issues of the day. And as a bonus, probably tells anyone with an opposing viewpoint to “zip it.”
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I prefer my news without personalities or drama. Olbermann’s not my cup of tea. Sorry if that offends you, or anyone else, and I hope my not watching doesn’t ruin your enjoyment of your favorite show.

KO, Maddow, and Tweety will all benefit from Obama being in power the same way FIXEDNEWS benefitted from Bush being in office. Its not a coincidence that in the last week of the campaign Obama gave two interviews to the NBC network. He also gave KO an interview a couple of weeks ago. The word here is “access”. Because KO and others on MSNBC are seen as friendly to Obama they will more than likely be the ones to get the most access from his administration and most people will want to hear from the guests that THEY will be able to bring on. If Obama freezes out Hannity and Bill O somehow I doubt people will keep watching them when they only have D!ck Morris and Newt Gingrich on night after night after night.

No apology necessary. Please. I’m a big boy. Interesting, though: same debate going on at HuffPost. KO does divide his own constituency. I bet 100% of wingnuts LOVE Hannity whereas it appears that lefties are very split about KO.

. . . of course, if your “shut up” comments are meant as a Bill O’Reilly satire, I take it all back. But satire doesn’t translate well over the internets, you know.

No apology necessary. Please. I’m a big boy. Interesting, though: same debate going on at HuffPost. KO does divide his own constituency. I bet 100% of righties LOVE Hannity whereas it appears that lefties are very split about KO.

@johnyt1977 – I’ll definitely go along with that. I come to Swampland for three reasons:
(1) Decent commentary from Klein, KT, and (shockingly) Murphy
(2) To yell at chumps like Scherer and Carney
(3) The commentor community
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But yeah, as for consistently deep, substantive discussion of current events? I get my fix elsewhere.

No apology necessary. Please. I’m a big boy. Interesting, though: same debate going on at HuffPost. KO does divide his natural core. I bet 100% of wingnuts LOVE Hannity whereas it appears that lefties are very split about KO.

CNN is still hiring commentators from the right. But that’s okay. I KO and 1 Rachel make up for all the slant on every network.

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/11/03/hayes-cnn/

cinci,
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I have a GREAT sense of humor, but I also realize that on a blog or an email or a text message its usually really hard to project sarcasm or snark unless you through a lol or something in there. Of course when you say the same thing twice with no lol that kinda hurts the chances of it being seen as a joke also. But hey Bill O says he never does anything wrong either…………

The only things that would make Olbermann’s show interesting after an Obama win is if Obama betrays him and actually tries to govern from the center.

I’m endless fascinated by all the strange places that different people regard as the center. Since my inclination is to divide the Republicans into the Hate-R-Us contingent and the people I consider reasonable, sane fiscal Conservatives, I have difficulty envisioning a similar split among Democrats. Obama will govern from the center because he represents the center. There are too many issues that need to be decided on their merits to think that a simple scale of left-center-right can describe one’s position. But you can be assured that any efforts to pretend that Obama is anything but MOR represents deliberate distortion.

To answer Cincy’s questions, and I know a lot of people will disagree with this, if I had to pick my favorite crew of talking heads, I’d probably go with the Imus show before it got canceled. I loved that show. He had on historians like Godwin and Beschloss, other media figures like Schieffer and Russert, politicians – and he got them all to speak in a human voice.

through=throw

@sgwhiteinfla The difference is that Fox News is the only conservative cable network. People who want a pro-Obama point of view have all of the rest of the media establishment to choose from.

The only things that would make Olbermann’s show interesting after an Obama win is if Obama betrays him and actually tries to govern from the center.

I’m endless fascinated by all the strange places that different people regard as the center. Since my inclination is to divide the Republicans into the Hate-R-Us contingent and the people I consider reasonable, sane fiscal Conservatives, I have difficulty envisioning a similar split among Democrats. Obama will govern from the center because he represents the center. There are too many issues that need to be decided on their merits to think that a simple scale of left-center-right can describe one’s position. But you can be a$$ured that any efforts to pretend that Obama is anything but MOR represents deliberate distortion.

Best believe Keith Olbermann will go to town on Palin tonight!!

gysgt213, CNN’s answer to KO and RM seems to be Rick Sanchez. Watch his hour and tell me CNN suits aren’t looking to replicate some of that left-of-center magic that seems to be all the rage. The pendulum has swung.

All right guys that was fun, but I was serious when I TOLD everyone to shut the f@ck up. This thread is closed.

johnyt
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Can you give me examples of this plethora of pro obama media establishments that is on weeknights from 8pm-10pm EST? By the way most of us have already sniffed you out as a half hearted troll. Why not go ahead and go bat sh!t crazy for old times sake?

Well, I’m glad this election is going out the way it came in — focused on stupid trivial ephemera.

a pro-Obama point of view have all of the rest of the media establishment

The media establishment aren’t pro-Obama. They’re simply pro-generic corporate monolithic franchise-driven America. It’s not THEIR fault that McCain is deliberately trying to pit 30% of Americans against the other 60% in an effort to sow discord and profit from the result.

By the way cinci. You are slipping. Mike Scherer has a post up with a link to his story on McCain’s townhall from last night where he is practically doing loop de loops on the tire swing and guess who didnt even comment on it? Whats up with THAT?

I am SOOOO glad we don’t seem to have much new to talk about today.
And it’s driving me SOOOO bleepin’ crazy to not have anything to talk about!!!!!
Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we there yet?

Except perhaps this– did anyone manage to slog through Sully’s 40,000-word diatribe about Dubya’s constitution wrecking?
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/11/barack-obama-fo.html

@sgwhiteinfla Pretty much everyone but Fox News. Your problem is that you are so far to the left that anything slightly less liberal you see as conservative. CNN, NBC, ABC, CBS are not be as liberal as Olbermann, but they will fawn over Obama’s presidency just the same. Maybe with a little less drool.

Ok the last time I checked out of your list CNN is the only one that has any news programming between 8-10 so according to you they can choose from 2 pro obama channels or 1 pro WingNut channel. And KO and Maddow are already beating Campbell Brown and Larry King on CNN so who again is going to take ratings away from MSNBC? No answer? Ok Thanks for clearing that up.

“Liberal” CNN paid Glen Beck to spout his halfwitticisms for ten years, and have now added Stephen Hayes to their stable. If you don’t know who Hayes is, he’s the author of a book detailing Saddam Hussein’s role in 9/11. Of course, maybe you don’t see what the problem with that is.

Your problem is that you are so far to the left that anything slightly less liberal you see as conservative.

When you live in the fever swamp, everything outside Area 51 looks like a black helicopter infestation.

Joe-B: I did. It’s of a piece with what he’s been saying for the last year.

Jim FL
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and please dont leave out Lou “all illegal immigration all the time” Dobbs. Yep that CNN is REALLY liberal.

I think we have beat the KO story to death!

Anyone watched the McCain funeral march today through FL, TN, PA, IN NM, NV and AZ. The crowds are smaller, the delivery is stilted and old and never give up seems to be the refrain. As the Titanic sinks the band just keeps playing on and on.

But then again didn’t McCain give the advice to General Custer that he had the Indians right where he wanted them at the Little Big Horn?

I think we have beat the KO story to de…a..th!

Anyone watched the McCain funeral march today through FL, TN, PA, IN NM, NV and AZ. The crowds are smaller, the delivery is stilted and old and never give up seems to be the refrain. As the Titanic sinks the band just keeps playing on and on.

But then again didn’t McCain give the advice to General Custer that he had the Indians right where he wanted them at the Little Big Horn?

@sgwhiteinfla No one has to take away viewers, they simply will drop off. Olbermann got attention from his “Special Comments” on Bush and other Republicans. Without Bush or a Republican administration for him to rail he wont be as big a draw.

@johnyt – Dude, all news viewers are going to fall off. My erection for politics is well past its fourth hour and softening.

I’m stuck in moderation in JNS’s thread so here goes:
JNS (or KT) is anyone working on a story about the sludge the Republican PAC/527s are throwing out over the past few days? Over the last few days voters have *learned* that Obama “supports infanticide,” is “a friend of the culture of death” and is all for “illegal immigration.” All ludicrous charges… oh and the supposedly “off-limits” topic of Wright has reared its ugly head. I know Halperin posts some of these on thePage but a look at the proliferation of these types of attacks in the final days would be nice. Has McCain just lost total control over these groups, or is it normal for 527s/PACs to go rogue at the end of the election? Cause I seem to remember a certain someone promising to refrain from mentioning Wright

johnyt
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SUREEEEEEEEEEEE LOL

As long as wingnut antics continue (and I agree with the Great Shrill One that they will) KO will have no shortage of material.

This post is nearly incomprehensible as written. Why didn’t you link to your earlier post for those of us who are reading top to bottom and hadn’t gotten to it yet?

Without Bush or a Republican administration for him to rail he wont be as big a draw.

Without those idiots, KO’s show starts to expand away from that, from more interviews and segments. And there is frankly no shortage of bad guys for him to hit, in fact, it will be nice to see him go after more scum like the Wall Street and K Street crowds for example. And I say Worst Persons alone keeps his audience.

Those of you downing KO as a media personality should watch a recent interview he had with John Cleese to demostrate 1) Why he’s good at what he does and 2) Why he was commendable during the reign of the Bush regime.

“As long as wingnut antics continue (and I agree with the Great Shrill One that they will) KO will have no shortage of material.”

Maybe they can re-institute The Fairness Doctrine and pair him with Sean Hannity. I love the smell of exploding wingnut heads in the morning.

Hecks! At least we’re speaking!
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Hell, maybe I’m dense, but I’d rather people criticise me for that than get in spitfights over stuff like this. I’ve really enjoyed my time with all of you, and I am seriously jazzed about going to the polls tomorrow!
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Seriously jazzed!
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We’re making hitsory, er, I mean history…

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