Bill Clinton: “You Haven’t Shut My Demographic Out Yet”

Er, no, he’s telling them it’s way cool to vote for Barry. Are you really that clueless or do you just pretend?

Man, Bill Clinton showed his true genius, made an eloquent and tight case for Obama, and Jay finds the little mote in his eye. Cynical much?

I think we need more context on this quote. Taken just as it is, it doesn’t really make a lot of sense. Any chance we can get some of the surrounding statements?

Jay, I agree with others. A little context please. This didn’t make any sense to me. You’ve been doing such a good job lately – maybe it’s just that the campaign trail doesn’t agree with you.
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And good grief, I go out for the day and there are thirteen posts when I get home!! You have all been having way too much fun. But, caught up now.

Jay, I took Clinton’s comment to be a harmless joke about his age. He’s been joking a lot about his age lately. I noticed that he stumbled a bit while introducing Obama. He did the same thing when he introduced Hillary at the Scranton rally with Biden. I think Bill does his “aw-shucks” routine so that he doesn’t look like he’s trying to one-up the other speaker.

Besides, I read that Obama is doing better with the white male vote than Bill Clinton did. Obama has the best numbers for a Dem since Jimmy Carter iin 1976. I’ll see if I can find the link …

From Politico:

Barack Obama, the first black major-party nominee, is positioned to win the largest share of white voters of any Democrat in more than three decades, according to an exclusive Politico analysis of recent Gallup and Pew Research Center polling.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14921.html

Agree with all of the above.

First the comment travesty a week out, and now on one of the bigger nights pre-election (it’s 1:46am EST), this is all that’s been posted? This out of context quote from Bubba. A 30 minute Obama ad, the B squared show in Kissimmee, even Barack on Stewart (a relevant part of today’s media) and this is the most you guys could come up with!?

Bad enough that not a single post today has managed to generate triple-digit comment spools (compare that to say pre blog implosion), but could you guys at least post about (like) the important happenings of the day.

Talk about preemptive irrelevancy.

That WAS an odd comment.
Happy? Relieved? Disappointed? Apprehensive?
Hopefully there is nothing to it.
[Bi=ut then, does Billy Boy play second fiddle graciously?]

“grey-headed, white guys”…I thought that *was* the Florida demographic!
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Seriously, though, the Big Dog makes a self-deprecating remark about his age, and he gets piled on? What’s up with that? Having gaffe-check withdrawals just because Biden went quiet for a couple of days?

This snippet really does feel like “missing the forrest because of the trees”. The overall context and presentation of President Clinton’s speech was quite positive. Additionally, this moment (when viewed) came off much more as self-depreciating than anything else.
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Fortunately we are in the YouTube era, and we’ll be able to make a full assessment for ourselves. I am rather surprised however that you did not make an attempt at assessing the event as much as seeking an “oddity” within the 1st time appearance of the pair together at a rally.

That wasn’t odd at all. He was talking about what has been widely reported, that Obama is going to have overwhelming support from the young crowd and new voters. So Bill Clinton was just pointing out that the “old grey haired guys” still have a stake in the race too with a little self depracating humor. I mean how nitpicky can you get when the many gave the most full throated well versed endorsement he could possibly give with out putting his tongue in Obama’s mouth and still he gets grief. I guess some people will just forever look for SOMETHING to say negative about Bill Clinton but I for one think he did one he!! of a job last night.

There’s probably an element of wistful regret that his time has passed, kinda like Bilbo passing the ring to Frodo. But as other people have noted, the alternative is Gollum, so the moment is a small one.

Where is the video of Obama at the dinner party in LA where he claps and smiles at all of the anti-Semitic comments made by his PLO terrorist buddies? Where is the pressure to release this video from our Main Stream Media pals? Oh that’s right they are all in the tank for Obama.

Yayyyyyyyyyyyyy a new troll. Hey pa56, didja know that John McCain helped FUND the supposed PLO terrorist you are referring to? Do you really want people to focus on the $500,000 that is has been confirmed that McCain had the IRI send this PLO “terrorist”? I am thinking you want to leave well enough alone lol

What music played when he left?
Honestly the dominance Bill Clinton has over the media hasn’t abated even a little bit.
They always turn into morons.

Funny, all those independents who sound just like crazy partisans. They must like those undecided democrats who call up cspan, concerned.
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Except they’re loonier.
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http://video.aol.com/video-detail/president-obama-keep-dreaming/2378415554/?icid=VIDURVNWS04

Hey sgwhiteinfla. Who do you think would be hurt more by this video coming out or McCain saying “ok” to help the poor defenseless PLO out? Shorter sgwhiteinfla. Shorter.

or mean to imply that the Democratic Party is being taken over by minorities?

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The more I think about it the weirder that is. Bear in mind that Clinton didn’t say that, JNS did. Is it a fear/concern/hope that JNS has? Does she have racial “issues” Even the use of “taken over” can suggest aggression.
JNS you projected something interesting here.

A juicy vivid video of Obama clapping loudly, smiling with all those pearly whites shining as he laughs to the anti-Semitic jokes being told at the party for his long time friend, Rashid Kalidi would be fantastic right about now. It would make the Jeremiah Wright video seem like a Mickey Mouse endorsement for radicals of the world.

pa56,
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The really HILLARIOUS thing is that the contents of the video have ALREADY BEEN PUBLISHED. pa56 let me ask you a serious question. This article about the tape is over 6 months old. So is your contention that
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A. John McCain is totally inept for having let this much time go by before he brought it up or
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B. John McCain is desperate.
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Here is a clue. Nothing on the video is described in the way YOU and John McCain just described it.
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So if the video hasn’t been released please tell us ALL how you came to “know” whats on the tape?
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poof what pa56 disappear. LMAOOOOOOO

JNS – yeah, this was absurdly nitpicky.
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Bill did a great job. I kept wondering if Barack could hold his own against the old dog. (He did, barely, until he had to speed up at the end). But it sure was an effective reminder of what it was like to have a president who could put a sentence together, who created umpteen million jobs, who left with a surplus…

Joe Scarborough is currently proving that he’s never done any reading about the Bradley effect. Never reads Nate Silver. Appalling.

NNTO
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Alwsys possible that she is not “projecting” but “repeating” something someone else, perhaps in some of other party, may have said.
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That is the next obvious step for the Republicans to take, you know. Even more expressly the party of the white people, especially the white male people.
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This rant is interesting, historically speaking.

Joe Scarborough is currently proving that he’s never done any reading about the Bradley effect.
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If you missed the Daily Show last night, do check it out today. The exchange where Stewart raises the Bradley effect is very funny.
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The Big Dawg was fantastic and Jay, that was a joke that is funny in the context of the speach.

Bill and Hill are very effective surrogates and it’s good to know they will be out there on the trail.

sgwhite – this is sorta like the “we don’t know where all that money from undisclosed credit cards came from.”
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Well,PA56, some came from me, some from my sister in KY, some from nephews in MD and NY, some from friends. None of us has every donated to a presidential campaign.
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what Jayack said about your being an “independent.”

pa56,
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To answer your question in the eyes of Jewish people they will forgive Obama for socializing with a a palestinian before they EVER forgive McCain for giving a palestinian $500,000 that by your own admission could potentially go to fund the PLO terrorist. Now ask yourself the same question. Do you want Jewish folks to get the picture of John McCain funding terrorist?? Of helping to pay for the bombs of the PLO that k!ll innocents?? John McCain funding terroism is a pretty big deal I would think. Wouldnt that make him a traitor to Israel and the US? We already know he went to meet with General Pinochet the mass mrderer in Chile. He is getting a pretty ugly resume there.

Regal one, w00t.

Sorry. Wrong window. Yuu don’t want to know. It involves boobies.

Of course. I said b00bies.

Sorry. Wrong window. Yuu don’t want to know. It involves b00bies.

They’re birds you stupid bot.

One more try. Sorry, wrong window. That comment was meant for the atriot who puts up photos of gannet like birds that happen to share a name with a mildly vulgar referent to mammary glands.

Can the media please get past the notion that John McCain didn’t have the money to buy 30 minutes on 7 networks? Either he didn’t think of it or he chose not to, but he has 36 million left (as of a few days ago) and the ad buy was around 5.

jay that thought occurred to me, that she was repeating something she was fed-I mean heard. But I thought I would respect her enough to let her own the words she wrote.
In contrast to her inferring, not Clinton implying, something different.

Thanks SoBell. I obviously didn’t see the speech. (I think the Daily Show conflicted.) I did watch the infomercial. Seemed a little too shamelessly directed at swing voting blocs in purple states for my taste.

Kathy they are moaning about that on MSNBC right now. We got it, no one likes your candidate enough to give money.

pa56,
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I am stuck in moderation but the short version is. JOHN MCCAIN FOUND TO HAVE FUNDED TERR@RIST PLO GROUP. pa56 I think that would pretty much lose Florida for John McCain

PNNTO,
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Notice how nobody on Morning Joe EVER talks about the fact that John McCain is still raising money on the side using loopholes in his own bill? Hmmmm I wonder why

But I thought I would respect her enough to let her own the words she wrote
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She owns them nonetheless.

sg that is a good observation. The script is that McCain is honorable and the script WILL NOT be deviated from.
I am prejudiced of course but McCain just looks like a whiner when he discusses this topic.
On the other hand if the republicans don’t have victimhood what do they have?

She owns them nonetheless.
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Of course, I was just trying to take the high road. It’s strange territory for me.

I knew that Paul. The “of course” part, that is.

Mike Murphy just now on MSNBC.
Discussing McCain campaigning in Iowa “I think they are smoking crack”

I actually took it to mean that, contrary to received wisdom, there appeared to be a good representation of old white guys in the crowd. Pretty much the opposite of how Jay read it.
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Of course, I’ve been wrong before and I’ll be wrong again.

I think he was saying it’s a big tent, JNS. He made a great case for Obama last night.

Yall have to remember that JNS is still a little bitter about having to stand in the rain with the 9,000 + Obama supporters the other day. Im thinking maybe she needs to switch to splenda with her morning coffee

THIS JUST IN:
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Mike Murphy: Hillary to vote for McCain.
Im going back to my recording of Larry King – not watching morning Joe anymore (:

JNS — I want to seek understanding. Could you elaborate about what you thought Clinton said? I watched his speech yesterday afternoon on CNN live, and I saw someone who was excited, engergized and pro-Obama. I didn’t watch last night, but the talking points were the same. What did you see and hear?

MM says Hilary is voting for McCain? Talk about betrayal. MM forget his daily dose of thorazine?

Andy,
Here’s the video:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/29/barack-bill-make-their-st_n_139109.html

Andy, MM posted that months ago here at Swampland He was trying to be “provocative”

Perhaps the most simple interpretation of Bill Clinton’s comment is the right one: he’s telling fellow old white guys that Obama and his campaign are going to welcome them. Which seems like a smart thing to say with the robocalls, etc.
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Kathy, I believe it’s about 5 million per network. I actually think this is a fair talking point from the McCain campaign – it’s fair to criticize Obama for not taking public financing. It’s also reasonable for the media to put Obama’s 30 minute TV buy in the context of his decision to not take public financing. The problem is that they’re not talking about the McCain campaign’s evasion of campaign finance rules.

PNNTO,
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No its not that. MM is still in love with J Mac. He is trying to blunt the effect of Bill campaigning for Obama last night. Even thought J Mac quit MM, MM still longs for the thrill of the tire swing. Notice that unlike all the other rethugs who have criticized J Mac he has NEVER said he was voting for Obama or endorsing Obama. Don’t have any fantasies about him not voting for J Mac either.
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By the way I guess we ran pa56 off huh? Maybe that was NObama or jamesryan in drag.

Rose,
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No it was at most 5 million all together and at least 3.5 mill. I know for at least one network it was a flat 1 million. I personally don’t think there was a better way to spend that money. Also I don’t think any donor is complaining about him using the money for this commercial. On the other hand whenever McCain brings up money Obama is spending because he didn’t accept campaign financing just reminds people of the 150k the RNC spent on Palin which many of their donors are PI$$ED about that.

PNNTO and SG: MM might have been trying to be “provocative” but it comes off as fatuous.

sgwhiteinfla, thanks. And this piece of information leads me to an obvious conclusion…. Why did they have to cancel Arrested Development?! How could they not recoup 1 million dollars and production costs through advertising revenue and DVD sales? 1 million really isn’t a lot of money. Also…. in the 700 billion bailout package, couldn’t they have set a aside say, a hundred million dollars, to cheer people up by subsidizing beloved canceled TV shows to go back on air? That’s a better use of money than the toy arrows thing.
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On a different note, this is a must-read article: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/30/us/30insure.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin Basically women have to pay higher health insurance premiums than men, even when they’re the same age, etc. Key quote: Without substantial changes in the individual market, Ms. Greenberger said, tax credits for the purchase of insurance will be worth less to women because they face higher premiums.

pa56independent

I see Rusty has finally found his way to the WordPress site.

Of course his detailed description of the contents of the video tape represent almost as much wishful thinking as his insistence that Michelle Obama has something important to say about “whitey”

We all have our demons, I suppose.

my recording of the daily show was entertaining:
john skewered the recent history of the mccain campaign before the interview.
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Oh yeah MM said he was yelled at a little bit – sayign thats what he said Hillary would do after she lost the primaries. not news and of course has no basis in fact, or at least cannot be proven, another great incedence of Joe the congresman trying to be Joe the journalist in the morning.
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Help!
I’ve been moderated and I can’t get up!

Cobert seems to be able to deliver more news – Cobert endorsed Barack Obama.

Bill Clinton also mentioned that Obama’s greatest leadership moment was calling him for advice. “He wanted to understand better…that’s what we need. A President who wants to understand.”
How about a President who DOESN’T NEED TO CALL PEOPLE FOR HELP?!?

[...] Jump to Comments bill clinton last night: You’ve even got a few grey-headed, white guys like me. You haven’t shut my demographic [...]

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newliberty: How about a President who DOESN’T NEED TO CALL PEOPLE FOR HELP?!?
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Oh yes, because uninformed snap-decisionmaking is so much more preferable.

Rose, if we’re going to use the bailout money to bring back cancelled TV shows, first in line should be Dead Like Me. That show rawwwked.

He gave a great speech, come on Jay.

“He wanted to understand better…that’s what we need. A President who wants to understand.” How about a President who DOESN’T NEED TO CALL PEOPLE FOR HELP?!?

Welcome to Right wing America. Where intelligence is a sign of weakness and ignorance is a virtue!

Paul,
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I couldnt have said it better myself. But once again Barack Obama has predicted this. Remember this quote “Its like they take pride in being ignorant”. Truer words have never been spoken.

pa56independent Says:
” .. Where is the pressure to release this video from our Main Stream Media pals? .. “
“video”?
What video? What do you know about the video and its contents? You seem to know it intimately and so by not releasing it, you ARE anti-American.

Should we make our decisions as Americans based on your feverish hallucination?

But we have seen videos of McCain denouncing the good old USA. From way back. Pertinent? McCain never forgets or forgives – and what Sen Obama’s acquintances did when he was 8 years old – is pertinent to the elections2008, right? So, we can hold McCain to what he did and said way back, right? Even if the conservative evangelicals don’t care, we can consider his sins. Like bigamy. Like fornication and adultery.

And we have video of McCain smiling as our former First Lady Hillary is called a “bitch”. And we have video of McCain pimping off his wife and mother of his children. And we have accounts and video of McCain calling patriotic Americans “gooks” and “tar baby”.

Would an anti-American like you bother to view them? Have you?

By “we have video” I mean that the video is readily available by searching online (at YouTube).

Sorry. Out of syc: Snared in moderation.

Most likely, Bill was being wistful about watching the party change and not being in the center of it. He’ll be fine. And there are plenty of old white democrats.