Palin-The Plumber in 2012! Maybe.

ABC has backed off the scoop Karen flags below, or at least changed their headline, dropping the reference to 2012 in favor of simply, “Not Doing This For Naught,” which seems a far less, uhm, interpretive reading of her actual answer. ABC’s willingness to play up even the possibility that Palin is just maybe toying with a run in four years. Of all the things to criticize or to make a big deal of when it comes to the McCain-Palin campaign, this might be one of the most useless to actual voters. While being pushed very, very hard by the Obama campaign (hello, my lovely birdies!), Palin’s supposed ambitions don’t strike me as terribly relevant to the decisions people will make on Tuesday. Any VP candidate who isn’t thinking about running for president one day is probably less trustworthy than one who is — in part because they are probably thinking even darker thoughts. Two words, people: DICK CHENEY.

What’s more helpful, I think, is pointing out that in four years, Sarah Palin will be four more years more prepared for the presidency than she is now. Which is to say: not at all.

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  • Slowhand Ted

    Lack of focus and loyalty not relevant? Depends what you want in a future president I suppose.

  • themaverickformerlyknownasbasilbrush

    It’s abundantly clear that Sarah Palin gets dumber the more we know her. God only knows what depths of idiocy she might er … plumb in four years!

  • jennofark

    In four years, Palin will also, presumably, look four years older, thereby neutralizing her one and only “qualification” for a run for national office.

    There goes the Rich Lowry demo.

  • doug2178

    In four years, every Republican who didn’t get picked as McCain’s Veep will also be four years’ wiser. She doesn’t stand a chance.

  • Andy from MA

    What Jenn of Ark says.

  • cincinnatus est exterminata!

    In what world does a ‘reporter’ ask Palin about her attacks on Obama’s associations, but doesn’t ask her about her own troublesome associations which are all verified? Oh, that’s right…the world of journalistic hackery. I wonder why that world is dying? I surely hope Time Inc doesn’t just lay off janitors, cuz a lot of you people have no right to earn a living for this cr@pola. If you people are expecting to paid for shoveling sh!t, better you do it for real at a cattle ranch as opposed to metaphorically.

  • http://elvisberg.wordpress.com Elvis Elvisberg

    Yeah, I agree with Ana, I’m feeling some sympathy for the Barracuda on this one. It’s one of those stupid questions that everyone’s supposed to give the pat answer to– “Well, Newsreader Lady X, I’m just focusing on this upcoming election!” Palin was… unfortunate enough to step in it. It wasn’t her shrewdest move, but it wasn’t as awful as it sounds at first.

  • Friar Tuck

    “Palin’s supposed ambitions don’t strike me as terribly relevant to the decisions people will make on Tuesday.”

    So what’s your point? Irrelevant is what the GOP has to offer at this point. Pretty pathetic compared to what I’m watching Barack do right this minute.

  • cincinnatus est exterminata!

    In what world does a ‘reporter’ ask Palin about her attacks on Obama’s associations, but doesn’t ask her about her own troublesome @ssociations which are all verified? Oh, that’s right…the world of journalistic hackery. I wonder why that world is dying? I surely hope Time Inc doesn’t just lay off janitors, cuz a lot of you people have no right to earn a living for this cr@pola. If you people are expecting to paid for shoveling sh!t, better you do it for real at a cattle ranch as opposed to metaphorically.

  • Cliff

    What’s more helpful, I think, is pointing out that in four years, Sarah Palin will be four more years more prepared for the presidency than she is now.
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    Helpful?
    Talk to me when Palin stops supporting sh*t pile conservative policies.

  • cincinnatus est exterminata!

    In what world does a ‘reporter’ ask Palin about her attacks on Obama’s @ssociations, but doesn’t ask her about her own troublesome @ssociations which are all verified? Oh, that’s right…the world of journalistic hackery. I wonder why that world is dying? I surely hope Time Inc doesn’t just lay off janitors, cuz a lot of you people have no right to earn a living for this cr@pola. If you people are expecting to paid for shoveling sh!t, better you do it for real at a cattle ranch as opposed to metaphorically.

  • sgwhiteinfla

    AMC,
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    If the WingNuts think Sarah is abandoning ship then they will jump off too. Thats why it might be relevant because most of them hate John McCain anyway

  • Ohg Rea Tone

    We own Senator Obama a big thank you for giving us the option of hope. ……………..

    http://thefiresidepost.com/2008/10/21/senator-obama-to-sir-with-love-2/

  • Cliff

    Pretty pathetic compared to what I’m watching Barack do right this minute.
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    What’s that?

  • Friar Tuck

    Be the opposite of the hate-filled wing-nuttery on offer from the “GOP.”

  • Cliff

    FT – well, yeah, but I mean in what format? Haiku? Painting? Interpretive dance?

  • sgwhiteinfla

    Pretty good commercial by Obama

  • Friar Tuck

    Aww, jeez, Cliff, leave a tender moment alone, would ya?

  • Cliff

    Fine, fine! Sorry!

  • cincinnatus est exterminata!

    Grim faced Stephen Hayes on CNN makes me happy :)

  • cincinnatus est exterminata!

    Hey emoticons! :) :( :| ;)

  • Slowhand Ted

    Can you do the pokey tongue thing? :P

  • Slowhand Ted

    Nooooo! Colon p is always the pokey tongue emoticon.
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    :p

  • Cliff

    Ooooh, waitaminute, tonight’s the half hour Barackapalooza! Sorry everyone, I forgot while still confined here at work.

  • Slowhand Ted
  • Friar Tuck

    Bl e e ding narcissist, that’s what I am Cliff! I thought you knew.

  • cincinnatus est exterminata!

    Hey CNN just covered the Don Young/Coconut Road story that TPM dug up 9 months ago…better late than never I guess.
    8-O

  • sgwhiteinfla

    cinci,
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    KO reference TPM a little while ago also because of a story they did. Josh is blowing up tonight

  • http://www.ghostnote.com Cookie Puss

    Can you run for office from the Alaska State Penitentiary?

  • sgwhiteinfla

    Larry King is looking like a younger version of himself interviewing McCain

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  • Cliff

    Bl e e ding narcissist, that’s what I am Cliff! I thought you knew.
    .
    I’d have noticed, if I weren’t so busy watching the world spin around me. :P

  • neutronflux

    Test

  • newfloridian

    As I have said before the only thing Sarah Palin will be doing in 2012 is running from her fellow inmates, not running for President!! Her contracting to special interests, the who built her home and did she pay anything for it and other issues will land this women in a cell. Of course as we have seen she looks good in stripes!!

  • sgwhiteinfla

    Check out how thinkprogress went through Sarah Palin’s speech and highlighted where she ad libbed. Notice that she doesnt like saying in a McCain administration and instead says in OUR administration. Hmmmm
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    http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2008/10/29/palin-big-oil-love/
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    AMC this might be of interest to you too. That is if you arent moonlighting at the dozens of different blogs that I have seen articles of yours on for the last few days. You are officially a hustler in my book!

  • themaverickformerlyknownasbasilbrush

    Perhaps we could offer the GOP nominee for 2012 a slogan:

    Palin/Wurzelbacher 2012 – Dumb and Plumber

  • themaverickformerlyknownasbasilbrush

    Well, I do look forward to my comment escaping moderation. Is P*lin now an obscene word? Was it my mention of Baron von Wurz*lbacher?

  • themaverickformerlyknownasbasilbrush

    themaverickformerlyknownasbasilbrush Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation.
    Wednesday, October 29, 2008 at 9:43 pm

    Perhaps we could offer the GOP nominee for 2012 a slogan:

    P*lin/W*rzelbacher 2012 – Dumb and Plumber

  • jarais

    In four years, Palin will also, presumably, look four years older, thereby neutralizing her one and only “qualification” for a run for national office.

    There goes the Rich Lowry demo.

    I don’t know. She’s got such a grip on the base that I can see the RNC paying for, um, any number of upgrades. But this time they’ll do a better job of hiding the paper trail.

  • themaverickformerlyknownasbasilbrush

    OK, the mystery deepens.. should I not mention the G*OP? Is plum*ber some vile term of abuse? Is nom*inee some sort of hate speech?

  • Andy from MA

    jarais — no worries she has a portrait in her attack like Dorian Gray

  • deeincolumbiamd

    AMC–

    Being that I don’t want to engage in the soft bigotry of low expectations could you please try and step up your game a little.

  • Andy from MA

    that should be attic not attack.

  • Andy from MA

    Gosh Dee she’s breathing isn’t she? I wouldn’t expect anymore from AMC

  • sgwhiteinfla

    another conservative bites the dust
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    http://www.amconmag.com/article/2008/nov/03/00020//

  • Joe Bftsplk

    Oh, Andy, I like “portrait in her attack”. Probably got a few bats & cobwebs there too. Along with her portrait of Joe the Plumber et al.

  • jarais

    Clash of Civilizations totally PWNED The End of History.

  • Andy from MA

    Joe: My subconscious became conscious for a brief moment.

  • Andy from MA

    You know I think AMC is not engaged. Too busy thinking about her next gig. That’s employee loyalty for you.

  • Paul-no not that one

    So one thing after another, Palin hates McCain, McCain hates Palin.
    Take funds from “close states” throw the money into “safe states”.
    Will -Can?-McCain have even one good day between now and next Tuesday?

  • deeincolumbiamd

    I don’t think AMC reads our comments because if she did she would be to embarrassed to continue to post this nonsense. While she should have no worries that her words will last as long as Shakespear’s, who she is so fond of alluding to, the web is still a long term medium and her words may come back to haunt her on some celebrity roast.

  • wordpressatesmedley

    Is this it, Swampland? Are you still looking into fixing the bugs that caused the crash last week? Is smedley banished to the (n)etherworld of night-time and weekend commenting because of the evil that is “wordpress?”

  • http://elvisberg.wordpress.com Elvis Elvisberg

    Clash of Civilizations totally PWNED The End of History.
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    Oh, whatever, jarais, End of History totally kicked Clash of Civilizations’ ass.
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    True fact: I once made a child molestation joke to Sam Huntington.

  • http://elvisberg.wordpress.com Elvis Elvisberg

    Clash of Civilizations totally PWNED The End of History.
    -
    Oh, whatever, jarais, End of History totally kicked Clash of Civilizations’ @ss.
    -
    True fact: I once made a chi|d m*lest@tion joke to Sam Huntington.

  • sgwhiteinfla

    I have a prediction that by this time tomorrow some right wing evangelicals will be throwing Obama under the bus for reading the “evil” Harry Potter books to his daughters. Ill take all bets on that one

  • southernbell49

    Wow, if McCain does manage to win, what a swell place America will be.

    Palin and McCain don’t like each other. Dems hate McCain and Palin because they have accused us of being commies. Rightwing types hate Dems because it’s convenient for them to say they hate us because we’re commies.

    Of course, McCain will apologize, blame Obama for not doing townhalls and the MSM will fall in love all over again.

    And if McCain does win the great irony will be the lesson Dems have learned: we didn’t have enough money. Campaign finance “reform” will become even a bigger joke because we saw how big lies (They’re Commies!! Get the pitchforks and stoke up the bonfires!!) worked.

    I can honestly say I dlslike McCain much more than I do Bush the Lesser and this is coming from a woman who eight months ago would have said I like McCain better than Obama, even though I wouldn’t vote for McCain.

  • rose83

    AMC, good post.

    Oh, and being/looking 4 years older will definitely be a plus. About half the negative comments about her on the blogosphere – from what I’ve seen – reference her looks. It’s interesting, because Palin is what Obama’s harshest and most dismissive critics think he is: a good-looking, youngish person who is great at reading a teleprompter and terrible at everything else except self-promotion. She is the right’s caricature of Obama. Yet because he’s a guy, the right can’t use sexist cliches of dumb attractive women to advance their attacks. Palin’s critics, OTOH, have the luxury of ridiculing her as just another dumb beauty pageant contestant.

    And yes… many of the people who are most sexist in their criticisms of her are on the right. Progressives don’t have to search for weak explanations to reconcile our past praise of one inexperienced, ignorant dangerous Governor with new criticisms of another inexperienced, ignorant dangerous Governor.

  • mgale

    The 2008 race is still going on, and the horserace obsession for 2012 is already under way.

    2016, anyone?

  • Cliff

    The 2008 race is still going on, and the horserace obsession for 2012 is already under way.
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    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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    I swear if they start speculating on 2012 any time soon I will turn into a Rageasaurus Rex and start stomping my way through the Village.
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    Metaphorically.
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    .
    …mostly metaphorically.

  • http://www.inworldstudios.com jayackroyd

    Cliff-

    10.24.08 — 11:07PM // link | recommend (39)

    FIRST BASE
    Looking forward to 2012, it seems Palin ain’t quite the darling of the base some imagine.

    If Republicans had to pick for 2012 today, it’d be: Romney 35%, Huckabee 26%, Palin 20%.

    –Josh Marshall

  • newfloridian

    Age will take it’s toll in the next four years even if she isn’t runing from her fellow inmates in 2012. Also remember that gives everyone 4 years to look into her AIP background, 4 years to look into her weird religious background, 4 years to find unflattering pictures and what else? of her, 4 years to look into her ethical procedures and graft while in office. There is alot of time till 2012. Dont’t forget some of those people looking at these issues will be Republicans looking to eliminate her from 2012. She has a lot more to fear from her fellow Republicans than Democrats who likely would love to run against her in 2012. We’d have to really screw up to lose to her in 2012. Other prominent Republicans will attempt to destroy her quickly in the next six months.

  • http://www.inworldstudios.com jayackroyd

    She’s gonna have IRS problems for the next two years as well.

  • toddandincharge

    She must be reading the same internals as Grampy and is now happy to answer questions about her political future.

  • timeisnotonyourside

    It is likely that Palin’s college antics alone will sink any future campaign, once they are adequately documented. (Five colleges in six years? Really?)

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