Health Insurance (Again)

At California Progress Report, Anthony Wright takes issue with a point I made the other day:

She suggested that young people would “choose” to go uninsured, as Gov. Romney suggested. As I wrote in her comments section:

“Twentysomethings are a disproportionate piece of the uninsured, but it’s not because they don’t “want” coverage. It’s that they are more likely to be low-income, more likely not to be offered employer-based coverage, and less likely to qualify for public programs (which usually require being a parent, as well as very low-income.

Much of the differential in insurance coverage in age groups is accounted for if you hold for income and job-type. Think of the young person just starting their career, or working for McDonald’s or Wal-Mart.”

In other words, young people will become more uninsured under the McCain plan because they are more likely to be the entry level or lower-income workers impacted first as employers further drop coverage. Some might buy coverage with the tax credit, but many won’t be able to afford the difference, some would be denied for pre-existing conditions, and some would find that what they could buy with the tax credit (a $5,000 deductible plan, say) doesn’t make sense for a young person with no assets, who would go into bankruptcy before the coverage kicks in.

Let’s not blame the victims. The plan is still bad, just in a different way.

I think we are making the same point, but coming at it from different directions. Wright is absolutely correct that young people are disproportionately uninsured, and for the reasons he says. But that’s true under the current system as well.

Here’s what I meant with my suggestion that McCain’s plan might actually encourage people to drop their coverage voluntarily. Say you are 23 years old and in good health, and lucky enough to be working for an employer who provides you health coverage. Under McCain’s plan, the amount that your employer spends on your health insurance suddenly gets added to your taxable income. McCain provides a tax credit to offset that, and if it covers your additional tax liability, the chances are you would continue to take coverage under your employer’s plan. But if you live in a state where health care costs are high, or your employer has a particularly expensive plan (because the benefits are great, or because the workers in your company are sicker, or older, increasing the costs of their coverage), the tax credit might not cover it. In that instance, you would be tempted just to drop it and take your chances on not getting sick.

In economic terms, that would be a completely rational decision. Unless you get in a car accident. And the departure of a worker who is a relatively good risk would leave your employers with a workforce that is, on average, even more expensive to insure–which might ultimately force the company to drop coverage for everyone.

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  • sgwhiteinfla

    KT,
    .
    Did you see the quote from Douglas Holtz Eakin the other day where he said no young people would leave their employer based healthcare because if they tried to get their own insurance the tax credit would at best give them essentially a much worse policy than what they have through their employer? I think the truth on McCain’s health care policy is just about ready to come out just in time for the election

  • Andy from MA

    KT — To support your point. A 21 year old mother of two worked at the same company I did which had great benefits. She did not opt for Long term disability insurance during open enrollment. Her thought process, I’m young, I’m healthy, the $2.00 per pay period can go towards gas money.

    She developed a brain tumor 6 months later. 12 months later she left work without disability coverage creating financial havoc for her and her young family. She later died.

    So my point is young people lack life experience, and think they are invulnerable. When we mature, we can recognize risk. Young people don’t.

    I agree with you. I hope helps support your point.

  • Andy from MA

    Sorry KT I need a preview pane. I’m about as coherent as JSMc III

  • Cliff

    Seems like it’s a little bit of Column A, a little bit of Column B. I have a job with health care (I’m 26) and I have other friends in similar spots.
    But I also have friends working at Rent-A-Center and in the oil fields in Wyoming and at WalMart.
    So some of us don’t have the opportunity, some don’t feel the need. Me, I’ll stick with my employer health insurance because I’ve had problems in the past that required it (leading to pre-existing conditions unfortunately), and because I’ll be d@mned if I could pick a decent policy out of a lineup by myself.

  • Joe

    I disagree entirely with his article. As a 24 year old, it is absolutely not worth it to me to pay $55 a week for my employer-based health care when I haven’t been to the doctor in 3 years. If I wasn’t in Massachusetts, which means I have no choice in the matter, I wouldn’t be insuring myself right now, because its just not worth it.

    Don’t get me wrong, I understand entirely that young people being insured helps spread the risk for the individuals who need their health care, and I’m all for health care for everyone, but if I had the choice I wouldn’t be insuring myself. I guess the fact that I’m in the only state that forces it makes it harder to tolerate. But it doesn’t matter anyway, because Obama’s proposed health care plan doesn’t have a mandate, no matter what John McCain thinks it says.

  • mihirbhatia

    Um.. Too further support your point – if your young worker was at a company that had high insurance costs due to other workers or fabulous benefits – he could also drop employer coverage, get the tax benefit and buy an individual plan that wasn’t as good as that offered by his employer. So DJE may be right that on implementation the number of uninsured wont change. But your last para about the number going forward will change because the good risks (from the insurance company’s) wont be in the employer plan so the cost of the plan will increase which will lead to the employer eventually dropping coverage. This will leave the workers who have to involuntarily enter the market without reasonable insurance choices (compared to the current state) and will increase uninsurance.

  • http://phd9.blogspot.com Paul Dirks

    Again I don’t know if you guys are talking poast each other but I do know that the same thing is wrong with McCain’s insurance plan is what’s wrong with his Social Security plan.

    Any group health coverage relies on the young healthy people being part of the group to share the expenses and the risk. The whole point of insurance is to pool the risk so no individuals are too hard hit. Once you give the young and healthy the ability to opt out, the rational response is for them to indeed do so, leaving the old and unhealthy out in the cold bearing the full cost of their health care because the benefit of buying insurance no longer operates.

    This is exactly the same result that will occur if young people get to opt out of their full Social Security contributions.

    No one likes to think these things through because the ‘unfairness’ of the system is built into the notion of insurance in the first place. You take money from healthy people to help pay for the sick.

  • http://pourmecoffee.blogspot.com pourmecoffee

    KT – Sometimes when you are making a really complex point, your forget to tell us who is the Muslim. I’m going to assume it’s “Anthony Wright” since that is the first name I see.

  • Cliff

    This is exactly the same result that will occur if young people get to opt out of their full Social Security contributions.
    .
    Whaaaa?
    I don’t recall hearing about that. Why would anyone want to do that? Unless everyone thinks we’ll all about to be dead from a mega-showdown with Islam.

  • sgwhiteinfla

    Breaking,
    .
    Sarah Palin jumped the shark yet again. She went ahead and said she would run in 2012 if they lose tuesday. I think for some republicans that will give them cover to vote for Obama now so they can vote for her in 2012. A “senior advisor” was speechless according to Dana Bash

  • calkate

    You seem to assume that young people are irrational when they decide not to buy health insurance. Horror stories aside (there are always exceptions to rules), they are not. Health insurance is extremely expensive, and most young people simply do not have big medical expenses. It is a simple risk/benefit calculation. Sadly, most of them don’t understand the true underlying risk they are taking, which is that by the time health insurance makes economic sense (approaching early middle age), they may not be able to purchase it. By then they may be overweight, or have knee problems, or have started showing symptoms for an auto immune disorder.

    Any system which requires that people will look at risks five or ten years into the future when they are making purchase decisions now is not realistic. It’s just not the way we work.

    One last point: have you ever bought your own health insurance? It is a HORRIBLE process. There will be plenty of people who won’t get it simply because they cannot stand doing the mountains and mountains of paperwork.

  • Karen Tumulty

    KT here–

    Calkate: I agree. I think they are totally rational. Insurance of all kinds is not a rational purchase generally, if you do a strict cost/benefit analysis. The Romney example was instructive only because it showed who the uninsured really are, and how insuring them wouldn’t be as expensive as he had originally thought. However, not all of them were going without it voluntarily (which is the valid point that Wright made, and where I should have been clearer). Many simply didn’t have it available at a price they could afford. So he did a few things: Gave them subsidies to buy it, set up a system where people buying on the open market go the same tax deductions that employers get for providing it and then imposed a legal requirement that people buy it, or pay a penalty. That is a step farther than even Obama would go, although both HRC and Edwards’ plans had a so-called “individual mandate.”

  • kevpvp

    One thing that I think gets lost in the McCain “free market health insurance” policy is the fact that NO ONE understands their health insurance. If you can honestly say you know your office visit copays, generic and name brand drug copays, deductible, coinsurance amounts (not to mention inpatient vs. outpatient benefits, etc.) you are one of a tiny fraction of americans who can do so. McCain likes to say the market principles can work in health care, but this isn’t buying a toaster, and people tend to not buy things they don’t understand how to use (unless it’s a universal remote to that new 60″ plasma). How many people would drop out of the system purely from the complexity factor?

  • chucksname

    For many lower income people, the tax credit is irrelevant. If they are on an employer plan, they have to pay their part of premiums and get taxed on the employer part in every paycheck while applying the tax credit when they file tax returns the next year. This is a disincentive to keep people in employer plans and they will opt out if they can.

    If the choice is taking a chance with your health or food on the table for your kids, food wins.

    Lower income folks don’t participate in 401k plans for the same reason… they can’t afford any more taken from pay even if they forgo free money in an employer match and don’t pay taxes on earnings.

    And getting a tax credit next year doesn’t help anyone without insurance pay the entire premium this year. If you’re living paycheck to paycheck, a low income family of four can’t afford about $1,000 a month in premium now to get a $5,000 tax offset next year.

    McCain’s plan would drive people to drop employer coverage and keep the uninsured from buying coverage.

    Tax credits are great for the well-off who can afford the tax increase on their paychecks and can wait for the tax credit to help when they file tax returns the next year.

    Low income people can’t afford to wait.

  • Casey Morris

    Health insurance or a trip to Paris in the summer and the Caribbean in the winter?

    Yes, I like, totally know, like totally, so many twenty two year olds that would totally pick health insurance.

    They’re the same ones wearing the four-inch heels and can’t spell bunion.

    Yeah, absolutely.

  • calkate

    TU for your response KT (I am swooning a little :-) ). I have to admit I was talking as much to commenters as to you, in that you did state in your post that deciding against insurance can be rational.

    kevpvp makes one of the best points of all. I’ve bought insurance multiple times – as an employer and as an individual. It is a daunting prospect, and the penalty for mistakes (cancellation in time of need) is catastrophically high. In all the years I bought employee plans, I never had employees ask to be part of the process – they were thrilled to have it taken care of for them. I honestly do not think most people CAN be informed consumers when it comes to buying insurance – not because they are stupid but because it is far too complex (deliberately so, I am sure) and far too inefficient a market for anyone but the youngest and healthiest.

    And yeah, kebpvp – I know the ins and outs of my policy (I am in a high risk pool and wouldn’t get it otherwise) but I agree, most people don’t – and frankly, wouldn’t it be nice if people could have faith they were covered and didn’t need to? Ahh for a little paternalism!

  • http://www.inworldstudios.com jayackroyd

    Thanks for the clarification KT. I didn’t get that in your previous post. So thanks to Anthony Wright as well.
    .
    What I think would happen is not that young people would leave their employer’s plan and go uninsured. I think what they would do is buy policies offered by insurance companies that would be entirely covered by the credit, and would raise their net of insurance takehome–that insurance companies would offer catastrophic, high deductible plans expressly for those people.
    .
    This is all moot, of course. McCain’s plan is a non-starter in a Democratic Congress. The larger question is how to get to a situation where what Romney realized is implemented–everyone in the pool, everyone covered, and health care policies directed to cost saving, life-enhancing preventative care, and food policies.
    .
    It interesting that Obama understands the importance of the latter issue, of the impact of subsidizing corn monoculture. It’s hard to know what his presidency will look like, but he really seems to have a clearer grasp on key issues than any candidate I can remember.

  • healthaccess

    Anthony Wright (director of Health Access CA) here-

    * Much thanks, KT, for the link, and the dialogue, and your evident and appreciated interest in health issues, in all their complexity. I actually agree with you: the McCain plan will leave some young (or more relevantly, newer, entry-level, and lower-income) workers without employer-based coverage, and uninsured as a result.

    * I agreed with your earlier point, too. My beef was more with Gov. Romney, who made inaccurate assumptions about this segment of the uninsured. Instead of seeing the additional barriers to coverage they face and thus trying to make group coverage more available to young workers, like bolstering employer-based coverage, he put the burden on the individual to sign up, as if that was the main problem. (In fact, he even vetoed the small fee on employers who didn’t provide health coverage to their workers–the legislature has to override his veto to pass that part of “his” health plan.)

    * Again, young people take up employer-based coverage at roughly similar rates as older folks. Without the group rate and employer subsidy, younger folks with lower-incomes find coverage on the individual market not affordable, either the premium, or the out-of-pocket costs.

    * A number of the comments (cliff, calkate, kevpvp) here raise another key point: Health coverage should not just *available* and *affordable*, but administratively simple. Another reason why employer-based coverage is so prevalent (and largely taken up, by young and old workers alike) is that it is easy to sign up at work. In contrast, trying to understand and navigate the individual market is a nightmare, and takes a lot of pro-active thought and action. Another reason why the individual market is least efficient, most expensive way to get coverage.

    * There’s been a lot of attention to behaviorial economics, and commentor “chucksname” referred to 401Ks. In fact, the research suggests that a major factor on enrollment is not as much income as simply whether signing up for a 401K plan is automatic or not, or if the choices are too numerous or complex.

    * In California, we have sought reforms to make the individual market more transparent and understandable, to allow for apples-to-apples comparisons, etc. But the real lesson is to expand group coverage instead, either through public programs or employers. More is on our website/blog, at: http://www.health-access.org/blogger.html.

  • Karen Tumulty

    KT here–

    Calkate: I indeed have had very real and recent experience with what the insurance market is like for people who go out and buy it on their own. My brother had one of those high-deductible, catastrophic policies for the past six and a half years, has never missed a premium payment–and never collected a dime in benefits, as his routine health care costs have not been high enough to hit the deductible. He suddenly has developed a serious illness, and the insurance company is telling him he is SOL, thanks to a clause that has this insurance policy renewing itself every six months with an entirely new policy. Yep. He’s got a “pre-existing condition,” because it was diagnosed under an earlier policy. But that earlier policy doesn’t cover it, because it has expired. It’s like being at the Mad Hatter’s Tea Party to talk to these people.

  • plukasiak

    Karen…
    Have you bothered to figure out how much coverage an employer would have to provide to create this disincentive?
    Lets say the young person is in the 15% tax bracket. That means that, in order for the young person to make out worse under McCain’s plan, the employer would have to be providing over THIRTY THREE THOUSAND DOLLARS per year in health care benefits.

    Now, while there may be some health care plans that provide that much money, I don’t know of any. Furthermore, companies that do provide high end plans generally require a substantial employee contribution, and offer lower end plans as well.

    In other words, you didn’t bother to do the math — fairly simply math ($5000 divided by a 15% tax rate) to figure out if what you wrote made any sense. It doesn’t — at least not in the real world.

  • Karen Tumulty

    KT here–

    Pluk: With health care costs rising as fast as they are, some health care experts I have talked to (Bob Blendon at Harvard, for example) have raised doubts that the McCain tax credit would keep up with true health care cost inflation. Here are the current figures:

    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/05/fact-check-mccains-proposed-health-care-tax-credit/

    Also, this:

    Eliminating the tax exclusion would greatly reduce the number of people who obtain health insurance through their employers.7 This decline would be driven by three factors: the effective price of employer-sponsored coverage would increase, the nondiscrimination rules would no longer apply, and low-risk employees would have less incentive to remain in employer-sponsored groups.

    Which comes from here:

    http://content.healthaffairs.org/cgi/content/full/hlthaff.27.6.w472/DC1

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